GreenReaper by Marci McAdam by GreenReaper < Submission

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Keto

14 years, 7 months ago

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EVERYONE indeed. ;) Cuuuute!

Vitae

14 years, 6 months ago

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bibble

GreenReaper

14 years, 6 months ago

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@ Vitae

GreenReaper exmly bibble! Push norn!

Vitae

14 years, 6 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

push grendel (gurgling noises)

GreenReaper

14 years, 6 months ago

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@ Vitae

*disappears in a cloud of sparkles*

Salmy

14 years ago

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LOL, had never seen this picture in full body! Very adorable!! :D

GreenReaper

14 years ago

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@ Salmy

Marci has a great style! It's my second-most expensive badge ($35) but I think it was worth it.

Salmy

14 years ago

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@ GreenReaper

Does the artist have an account here or on FA? c:

GreenReaper

14 years ago

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@ Salmy

Sure, she's at

MarciMcAdam. But not really very active! Check her website for her art.

Salmy

14 years ago

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@ GreenReaper

OK, I checked! Such a shame the site has just the pics watermarked and small =(

Shokuji

13 years, 11 months ago

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You know, I haven't seen Marci around.. is she around? =O

Cute norn. =3

GreenReaper

13 years, 11 months ago

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@ Shokuji

I don't think she's around here! Odd, but she's not really a big one for the public galleries.

Shokuji

13 years, 11 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

Well it must be working for her. Maybe she just has her own website? *shrugs*

Jardenon

13 years, 10 months ago

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That looks like a Norn! are you a creatures fan?!

GreenReaper

13 years, 10 months ago

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@ Jardenon

In a past life I was co-founder and leader of the Creatures Wiki, among many other things. :-)

I even wove a community project (a music player/editor) into my final year at university. Probably a lot more worthwhile than most final-year projects!

Jardenon

13 years, 10 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

There has not been a video game that has come out in all these years that did what the creatures series did. I wish they would have expanded on the idea of artificial life, and intelligence as a gaming genre. instead we get massive failboats like Spore.

GreenReaper

13 years, 10 months ago

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@ Jardenon

I think Spore was the result of a too-long development process and trying too hard to make it into a game. If they had focussed on the artificial life thing, they might have made a better program, but it might not have appealed to as large an audience.

Creatures really captured the imagination of artists, developers . . . a whole spectrum of people. Almost a decade after the company behind it died, the community lives on, and is still doing some exciting things (converting C2 to Docking Station, rewriting the engine...).

Jardenon

13 years, 10 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

Oh i know about a lot of the amazing things that the creatures community is doing with the games. And I think Spore was trying to be too many things at once. A third person platformer, a shooter, an RPG, an RTS, a galactic economy sim, but it seemed way too impersonal. with creatures, they all had that digital DNA, which was brilliant.

I still play creatures to this day.

GreenReaper

13 years, 10 months ago

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@ Jardenon

I still roleplay creatures to this day!

Once I met another norn on Tapestries and we chatted in Nornish for over an hour, freaking everybody else out. Was great fun. ;-)

crazyhusky

13 years, 6 months ago

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I want one. They are too cute and fuzzy.

GreenReaper

13 years, 6 months ago

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@ crazyhusky

Sadly, all that fluff is a choking hazard!

crazyhusky

13 years, 6 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

my fur isn't that bad o.o
just means the fuzzy will be warm and relaxed when i cuddle it

GreenReaper

13 years, 6 months ago

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@ crazyhusky

Mine is, though! That's why you don't see many norn plushies anymore.

crazyhusky

13 years, 6 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

You don't seem too fluffy ^.^
*picks you up and gives you a hug* see you aren't uber fluffy, you are just right ^o^

SlyMeerkat

12 years, 12 months ago

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awwww <3

nelson88

11 years, 3 months ago

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Very cute!^^

SomeStickyGoo

8 years, 7 months ago

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You have such cute patches of furry fuzz on the sides of your cheeks!
Your little tail with fuzz on the tip is super adorable can't forget your little chubby tummy I just wanna rub it!
Ahhhh! So cute! XD

GreenReaper

8 years, 7 months ago

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@ SomeStickyGoo

Hey, no rub da tummy! You might disturb the cheese wedges already inside. >_>

SomeStickyGoo

8 years, 7 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

Hehe! But he's such a cutie! *must resist the urge for tummy rubs*

IceAgeChippy

8 years, 7 months ago

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Ha-ha!

Who is this green muenster, er monster!?

Sorry for the pun; I should know cheddar ...*shot*

BlazeHeartPanther

8 years, 4 months ago

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so, what are you suposed to be, anyway?

GreenReaper

8 years, 4 months ago

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@ BlazeHeartPanther

A norn!

BlazeHeartPanther

8 years, 4 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

Yours definitely looks different from the one I saw on the page, not to mention cuter (those big eyes on the example pic (shudders))

GreenReaper

8 years, 4 months ago

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@ BlazeHeartPanther

Well, that is a very old 3D rendering from the original Creatures era - you can find the "real" depiction here, which shows how the norns look in-game. Much cuter, IMO!

BlazeHeartPanther

8 years, 4 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

Ahhhh, their we go, much cuter ^^

GFHCDK76

8 years ago

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@ GreenReaper

I recognized it as a norn right away. Though I never played the game.

I did see a person created an odd experiment with them once.

He made images (and I think some short animations) of them being hurt in some very bad ways (visibly tortured). He wished to see what peoples reactions to them would be. He was a little surprised and pleased by the response, even though the response was harsh.

Some had even sent him death threats for these images on harming norns. Why was he pleased with this? To him it showed that people can show some level of care and compassion for something that is not even human nor real.

Now, why do you suppose this to be of any importance? I would say, it is a turn around from some old thinking. Back some time ago, and is still going on, but not as much, people had little compassion with any that did not fit the norm of what one would call a worthy human. Race 'hate' comes to mind. Be you a Jap, Black, a Redskin, or any other not fitting as what oneself is, was seen as less than human, or even less than a dog, and could be treated in any way one saw fit. Though, sadly some of that still goes on with how some still think today.

Now, we have a new era where androids, and cyborgs may one day come into play within society. If we not wish to have a war on our hands, one where humanity may not win, then humanity has better be able to develop some compassion for what may not be human at all, but still perhaps living to some extent just the same.

Sorry, may have veered a bit off topic with all of that. 0.o

GreenReaper

8 years ago

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@ GFHCDK76

Yes… Tortured Norns (the site, and the concept) was a great discussion back in the day. Though personally it was a bit after my time. I spent more time on the music, making it the topic of my uni dissertation, as well as writing a chat client. And the wiki, of course.

As for the other issues, the obvious solution is to turn everyone into animal people.

GFHCDK76

8 years ago

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@ GreenReaper

"	GreenReaper wrote:
	As for the other issues, the obvious solution is to turn everyone into animal people.

Yes, I would like to think creating a wider diversity of the masses might help people more in conceptualizing the idea of diversity itself, and not as a bad thing, but as the norm.

And, I kind of already think of people as animals. Little immature carbon-based lifeforms, that just don't know just how immature they are, and just don't wish to know how much we are a part of the natural world, and not all to above it as some might think.

I do see what you mean though. Perhaps if we all looked like the large verity of animals all around, we would have quite a different outlook as to what being human maybe defined as, and we may not be as harsh about our differences. One could hope, anyway.

Speaking of being as something different and animal like, I have for a while wanted to be like the chakats, or the foxtars from the same set of stories. Preferably the otter like stellar foxtars. Now, that for me, would be something indeed. ^.^

If at all possible, I would make it happen, at least for myself.

Yes, now that I think of it, we should all be more like the chakats! Sadly, many would not agree.

Oh' there is a story about a large group of people who had been all turned into chakats, and left on an alien world, for reasons unknown. I thought that story was vary interesting on how they had to deal with that situation, and all of them being a little more animal like in form. ^.^

On top of that, the men had to deal with being something that is mostly female now, and only partly male. Some of them were even military men to boot! 0.o

GreenReaper

8 years ago

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@ GFHCDK76

It's an interesting question. Would true diversity help? Or would it be more like our history - the system is designed for the majority, and those with other abilities suffer unless granted special powers, in which case they are resented and feared?

This has come up often in furry fiction, as well as real life. :-)

I haven't read most of the work in Bernard Doove's universe, but I suspect it's addressed this topic… albeit probably with a positive resolution, since as far as I know he mostly writes positive stories.

GFHCDK76

8 years ago

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@ GreenReaper

Sadly, I don't think just diversity alone would help. That is just a pipe dream of mine. -.-

No, I would say it would take a totally new approach to get the masses to be more thoughtful towards one another, on a cultural level. What we have now is part of mass thinking, and it is not good.

I work with many in an environment that is so bad, that it has come to the point that if any in the work place so much as breath a word about getting into a fight with another, both could get fired. And if a fight was to break out, both will get fired.

All of that is still not near enough to keep each from being mean to one another just the same. It is like an insidious need of some people to pick away at those around them, not so much to just upset them, but to see what it would take to get the other to retaliate, as if one could not. An odd need people have, to see what is the tipping point of any, and try to push them over once found.

No, sadly the only thing I think would do the trick is something like-

One: creating a whole new bread of people who's mind is tailored to a type of thinking, and push said teaching of it on them as they develop, and have them completely replace! the people currently around.

Or Two: Do something as what was suggested was done in the movie The Day The Earth Stood Still, by the mass colonies in deep space. But on a slightly larger scale. And do so with many (by several hundred thousands) self controlled Drones and bots.

That is, to create a large set of enforcers who monitor the activities of everyone, 24/7. And, have said enforcers wipe out on the spot any who does not obey the law. The law being: Not to do anything to upset the peace of others with intentionally hurtful words and/or behavior. Many would indeed parish, well before any kind of peace would be established.

It is a sad though, but I don't think humanity is in any way capable of achieving peace with one another as a whole, not without some vary harsh enforcement involved. The thing of it is, far to many think of themselves as entitled to say and do as they wish, and to do so without any reprisal or punishment for their actions or what they may say. That is the big problem.

This needs to be more than addressed on an education level. It needs to be enforced on those who exists now, or taught to a new gen of people, who will integrate such thinking into their every day lives.

Individual families are part to blame, and religion as well. Religion separates us as a people (for there are far to many of them, and can't agree as to what "is"), and families have separate at home teaching on how each person should be raised to think, behave, and how each person should see other people as compared to oneself. Yes, individual families are much to blame for this. It keeps us apart as a people, as in separate family groups, that as well, don't each teach the same values to the young.

Communism, is to me, the only hope if done right. And it needs to start with the young, and how they are all raised to think.

GreenReaper

8 years ago

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@ GFHCDK76

I'm reminded of Phil Geusz's Lapsim stories where they did tailor the thought processes (or at least the mental biases) of the furry race in question. However they never replaced humans - they had to live with them - although I think they might've got around to having a portion of their own town by the end of it.

I don't think it'll happen in my lifetime, but it's nice to dream. >_>

GFHCDK76

8 years ago

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@ GreenReaper

There is actually a lot of furry stories with that in mind. So, it is nun to surprising to me that you would have come across another with similar stories that surround the chakat universe that Bernard Doove created.

The one you speak of abut the crossover rabbit people is interesting in it self. Many people love to imitate things that they see. Many people feel various animals are less violent than humans, not just the rabbits, and are thought to be something good to imitate, in an attempt to add some peace to one's life. Deer being one, mice being another. Otters as well. Who don't like cuddly otters ^.^

As being a fan of the latest pony cartoon, I am also reminded of the story Gulliver's Travels. The last place in the TV show Gulliver went to. A place of intelligent horses called the houyhnhnms he found. He not suggested but demanded that it be believed that the houyhnhnms are far better than humans, not due to technological innovations, for they had none, but due to their way of life and thinking.

There ways was simple, and not filled with many of the complications humans have created for one reason or another.

They had not such concepts of things as vanity, for they did not need it. Funny they made a joke about that in the ponies cartoon. A suggestion that it is irrelevant to fret over another watching you dress or undress, for they all walk about in the nude as is anyway. ^.^ Yes, they made a point about that in the cartoon. Too funny. I is to laugh.

Anyway, as Gulliver found himself among the houyhnhnms, he did at times try to imitate them, in an attempt to try and be more like them, and hope to fit in among them as one of them. He in time wished to be one of them, for he did see them as better than being human.

It is a very old concept, and wished upon by those who are not entirely content with being just human. Dreamers like me, who see more than what we are, but see what we could be. To be something perceivably better.

And Yes, it is nice to dream. ^.^

GFHCDK76

8 years ago

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@ GreenReaper

You are right, it has come up in furry fiction, but even among furries themselves at times. Not even all furries get along, and part of that is: Even furries each think differently.

Look at the debates over such topics as art and stories dealing in human and animal relations, rape, cub porn, cub rape, the list goes on. Many don't like it, for to them it puts furries in a bad light among others who are not furries, those who don't understand them.

The sad thing is, we each want something different. That is even when it comes to wanting to express, or repress even an idea.

Funny you should say what you did about Bernard Doove's universe. I have read most of what can be found on his site, and I can tell you, far from all of what goes on in it is surgery sweet.

There is a real dark side to his stories, and some of the other fan made stories. Prejudice is much at the heart of the matter. A group calling themselves "The Huams Fist" or the HF, has gone as far as kill children, and sabotaged things with so little care they even hurt some of their own, just to make a point.

No, other than the somewhat "fantasy" nature of his works, some of it is perceivably real enough, once one gets into it.

It would not be the first time someone has commented the stories surrounding chakats to possibly be full of fluff, but it is not. It hints at that things in the world could be more positive, but points out in the stories that the world is not (even in his stories), and shows partly why it is not. It does not, sadly, show a fix to the situation. >.<

Sorry again for the long post, as you can see, this is a very big topic to me.

DefeatedFallen

7 years, 8 months ago

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I was 100% sure

pandapaco

drew this. Now I realise I was 100% wrong. xD
I also thought he's some kind of dinosaur/dragon.

GreenReaper

7 years, 8 months ago

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@ DefeatedFallen

I have not yet had a commission from the Paco. Maybe one day!
He's certainly created plenty of Inkbunny-related artwork.

Norns are something of a hodge-podge, due to being genetically-engineered.
They do lay eggs, though! Also one of my friends, Iggy (

Iggy ), is a dinosaur.

whitepawrolls

7 years, 5 months ago

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You know every time I see this guy I think he should have been in a diaper....would look SOOOO cute :p

GreenReaper

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ whitepawrolls

There might have been a $5 discount, too, if the rumours are true! Alas, it was not to be. But here's a consolation prize.

whitepawrolls

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

Yup definitely cute enough to stay in diapers :p

tamiasthechipmunk

6 years, 9 months ago

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Green Reaper the cutest and most adorable Website administrator on the internet. X3

JBee

5 years, 11 months ago

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OMG! I was staring at your icon like...is that...is that a norn? I don't know how I didn't realize it sooner! Rock on, dude! I've never met anyone with a Creatures sona. That's terrific <3

GreenReaper

5 years, 11 months ago

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@ JBee

Indeed it is. A few have drawn norns, but I haven't seen any other norn fursonas. But then, its time was a little before furry fandom really took off - Anthrocon hadn't been founded, there were two conventions with about a thousand attendees (if you trust the figures), and one in Europe the size of a furmeet.

I co-founded the Creatures Wiki before getting into Wikipedia and then starting WikiFur when they kept deleting articles about furry stuff. If I hadn't got into the Creatures Community, I might never have gotten involved in furry, at least to the same extent - and it might have impacted Inkbunny, too, since I wasn't involved in web hosting until WikiFur got its own server.

I got to visit Cambridge once, where it all began. Saw the background model for Creatures, and was given a bunch of design sketches, as well as the original Creatures 2 design map (technically a loan, but they haven't asked for it back in a decade). Good times, although I imagine bittersweet for those directly involved.