Inkbunny

Oh yeah that makes sense. I was confused when I heard that he was a registered republican. I wasn’t sure what to make of that.

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@ MaximilianUltimata

I’m super surprised they didn’t have that roof secure. It was soooo close to the event. It was like right next door.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Cammie

the worst part is the Secret service KNEW about the server as a person of interest like almost an HOUR before the first shot was fired they were aware of his presence on the roof for several minutes i think almost 10? or longer before anything was done...and they had identified that roof as a risk the day before dering there standard security walk but opted not to place an agent on the roof beacouse the slightly sloped roof poaused a risk for falling...

So... the impotent dumb as running the DHS was worried about a fucking OSHA Violation XD

so they secured the inside of the building instead so the shooter was able to climb up the outside.

hey also waited untill he fired several times before shooting him..

This...stinks...im not saying it was an inside job but I am saying it was allmsot like they were waiting for some deranged person to take the bait and go for an easy shot

Launny

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I saw it... that was so absurd insane....

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ Launny

we still dont know what exactly happened but yeah.. this is nuts.. DX

FoxOnTheRun75

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Called it. I knew they would try this

BlazeHeartPanther

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Well said. Regardless on what you think of him politically, no one deserves that, regardless on what some people in the media say. It's sickening.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ BlazeHeartPanther

we have rights in this nation and one of them is the freedom to persue your own political agenda or office, nobody should impeded that with violance.

Dalesql

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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News media is just repeating rumors now, so don't believe much that you hear.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ Dalesql

not a rumor that he was almost killed but i take everything i here with some salt until it's confirmed. Especially now a days.

Teddy

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I doubt this will sit well with people regardless of what you believe in. I'm glad he's ok and only suffers from an ear wound.

Clearly the shooter was mentally unstable to commit such an act, but people need to pay attention to how the media reports it, and if they follow up or bury it.

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11 months, 3 weeks ago

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There were a few things I noticed that makes me think the entire thing was staged. I hope I'm wrong but if I'm not...
EDIT: I withdraw my previous statement

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ Weiss

it's fucked if it was staged I do not at this time think it was...but it's not impossible.

Weiss

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I read just now that both the suspect and an audience member died, thus I no longer think it was staged

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ Weiss

ive read nothing about the suspect but I HAD herd at least one other person near trump was hit DX so yeah...

Shame on that fucker for not careing who he it.. I guess it was fine since they were "just trump supporters"

Weiss

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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It's absolutely insane that something like this would happen in broad daylight. Plus, didn't it cross the shooter's mind that if they did kill Trump, he'd be seen as a martyr? Heck, that's probably already what's going to happen

Stratus

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ Weiss

The blood does not look very bullet woundy to me.
But that pics all Ive really seen.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ Stratus

I think it just grazed his ear...so theres not a lot of blood and it's not a deep injury

Stratus

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Yeah I read the update it's fuckin weird.

Neos8

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Yeah I was thinking this would happen, and I agree with you fully. NO ONE should be killed cause they have beliefs differ from your own. Politics should have never gotten to this sort or crazy.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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yeah man this is bullshit.

theallseeingeye

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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How did they miss!?

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ theallseeingeye

they fired multiple shots I have NO idea how they only grazed his ear with the first one

Dalesql

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Apparently the shooter was on a roof outside the security perimiter. using an AR15 type rifle. Range was a couple hundred yards in the outdoors. They are usually firing a 5.56 bullet, which is an intermediate power round with a bullet that is usually 55-62 grains in weight. Even a gentle cross breeze over that range can cause the bullet to shift several inches from point of aim. reportedly got off four or five shots before the countersniper got him or her. Shooter dead. Bystander dead, another bystander wounded and in critical condition. Trump wounded lightly. Bullet hit his ear, which bleeds a lot but is not serious. Unknown if other injuries. A sad say, whatever one's political beliefs.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ Dalesql

agreed completely. im glad trump wasn't seriously injured or killed but the two bystanders are the real tragedy here DX

TravisCoon

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Sad day that this stuff has to hapen.

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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You said it!

I don’t care what somebody’s politics are, their personal safety deserves to be protected.

RollerCoasterViper59

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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one attendee died apparently

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ RollerCoasterViper59

yes its horrible :( im only glad nobody else seems to have died except the shooter

FoxxyFluffs87

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I don't like Trump, he's and idiot. But thats not how to handle this! Granted I do agree with my ol man the justice system has been F'd up for years. And to see anything come out of either Trumps court thingy or his now shooter or shooters will take ages for any outcome. I'm still super surprised how the hell did they get a gun in? I was just chatting with the ol man, security in the past 30 plus years has upgraded tremendously both in how it's run and technology so how the hell did this happen? To be honest I don't like how either side is running things. I'm slowly turning into that creepy guy with the conspiracy theories about WW3 coming or the next civil war coming. Which the way this country is going there's a possibility for both I think. I'm dealing with enough BS health wise. I'm not in any way ready for WW3 or another civil war. Sadly the news of foxness may or may not make this way bigger than it has to be. Of course I stopped paying attention to most news sources as of late. I only heard of this on here inkbunny news.

P.S. I don't want back lash from any possible Trump furs on here, for the fact I hate the orange man. But I do believe that's not the way man, at that point your just as bad as Hitler well maybe not as bad but you get the point.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ FoxxyFluffs87

your free to dislike trump. that's your right, the fact that your honest, and believe in the rule of law and the sanctity of life and his right to run for office, despite disagreeing with him, only tells me your my brother.

you will get no shit form me.

and your right our justice system is really fucked up.

this is NOT the way it's done in America.

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11 months, 3 weeks ago

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"	this is NOT the way it's done in America.

Exactly...That's election by assassination. And that's the way it's done in 3rd world failed states like Somalia, ruled by warlords, pirate gangs and drug cartels.

Sheylyra

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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There was a time i hated trump too, i thought he was a clown, but a few month ago i stumbled over some really interesting intel, Trump is not that incompetent idiot that the main stream media is telling us, actually he isnt racist and he actually did a pretty good job, just dig a bit on youtube. But still, the Mexican Wall was a total Brainfart. Back to topic, the question of the century, how the flying fuck did the shooter get the gun in? I still remember when George W Bush visited Cologne while he was in office. There was security for litteral miles, no stone was left unturned, no donut was left uneaten, there was no way you could get anything in that was more dangerous then a Pencil. So back to the question, how did our wannabe Assassin do it? Sorry, but for me it smells like an inside job.

SamanthaIndigo

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I would like to wait for more information before weighing in on this.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ SamanthaIndigo

we know very little right now so i honestly cant blame you

SamanthaIndigo

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Aye. I dont like knee jerk opinions. Till then, I'mma snug a sweet bunny boy and nibble his ears. Gnomf!

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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nothing knee jerk about it at this point just a horrible tragedy DX

Nyrufa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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My dad just told me about this a few minutes go.

RushTheWolf

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I don’t want him dead, but the stuff about Project 2025, I want no part of it.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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apparently trumps not a huge fan either?

he was asked about it and mentioned he's read some of it and diddent like everything he saw in it... people often forget trump was a democrate for years he is far more center then that project 2025 shit.

but lest be real that document is just a wish list for extream right leaning politicians its going to take a LOT more then a right leaning president to get anything off that thing.

doesnt mean it's not a concern mind you! just that it's not quite the Doomsday document some people want you to belive XD the Left wing have there own stupid ultra gross agendas...this is why haveing both sides represented is often best.

Neos8

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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ahh i knew it wasn't so simple. the fact that he read some shows more that he wants to inspect info

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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i dont know that hes read ANY of it he was responding to a reporter asking about it and stated he diddent agree with some of the things that were said to be in there. I highly doubt he bothered to read the thing.

Neos8

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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fair

moyomongoose

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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This goes beyond an assassination attempt.

By the shooter pulling that act, he fails to realize an election is for the people by the people. Not to be decided by one man with a rifle.

He has arrogated to himself attempting to decide alone who will not run for political office.

Neos8

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I get that but its the principal of the thing. People today have this idiotic idea in their brain that in order to get what they want they will go to THIS level of extreme. Look at the way the extreme left is acting if you disagree with them or if you refuse to accept the hive mind. They try to dox you, cancel you, hell will even threaten your family cause you won't bow down to them. This can happen on either side, but this ain't right.

moyomongoose

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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There's a cartoon series on YouTube that nails down the extreme left on spot.

NPC University
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6wOk23UO4gc&t=30s&...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A1_qnlum2wg&pp=ygUXbn...

Neos8

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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pretty much

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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common sense and im sure some of the people in this journal chat would think this is right wing propaganda...

we are the borg...

fuck....

MuseumOfSkulls

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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All I'll say since I'm an Anarchist and so don't care much for political parties is this, I've worked with guns a few time in my life, something about the way the gun shots sound in the footage sounds just a odd to me, more like a BB. Gun than that of an actual gun, granted it could be a real gun and be internally suppressed or something else.

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ MuseumOfSkulls

Sound fades rapidly over distance. The sniper was located on a roof top so you have distance horizontally and vertically. Add in the automatic sound filters on the recording equipment for rain, crowd murmur, what have you. The Caliber is believed to be rather low to begin with so it would sound more like pops than bangs.

MuseumOfSkulls

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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You bring up a good point. My second guess was indeed that it was of a lower caliber, though I neglected to mention that here.

LittleWindTerror

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I am now watching the news on youtube now I am shocked but the 2022 bit and the part rumors i heard of his project taking away ALL benefits for people ssi, ssdi RR, helthcare any other state/fedral pay but What makes people want to just all out assassinate just because they misssed a rooftop? thats one the reason why USA is a bad country shootings. when will it stop? what was the motive for the shooter? WHY?????? no one will know at this point as shooter is gone now.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ LittleWindTerror

proct 2025 is not trumps project it's a wish list of policy direction some SOME far right republicans have drafted as a guide line for stuff they WANT to direct a right leaning administration to do, it's a road map, not a list of polacy and it's not got trump involved in it, it's a declaration of intend to try to get the government to support the things listed in it.

Most of the things are issues that even a conservative leaning government would get much traction on in America right now. Dont belive all the hype about it. a lot fo the stuff in it is stupid and most people are opposed.

LittleWindTerror

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Ahhh alright.

Springbun

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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the fact the shooter failed means it's not an inside job.
inside jobs don't fail.

things aside, yes...times are dangerously polarized for a non-cold war era.

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Inside jobs fail all the time. This just seems to be a matter of extreme luck.

CuriousFerret

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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As of now, one bystander dead, shooter also killed by secret service.

Was firing off the roof of the adjacent building somehow outside the established perimeter.

Trump is alive.

Otherwise lots of potlical rhetoric and assumptions.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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it's all shit but im glad it's not WORSE

TravisCoon

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Now they say the shooter was from Pa and he was 20 years old.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Radicalized dip shit probobly

dragonclaws

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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People legit wishing ill upon Trump are just terrible people, regardless of your political stance. Seeing such cruel tweets about, "How could you miss such an easy target?" and the equivelent is just outright heartbreaking.

Then again I just go on twitter for the lewds and memes anyway. Seeing the artists I follow say such things when I only follow them for their art, and not their political opinion, has me rolling my eyes.

CuriousFerret

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ dragonclaws

Reap what you sow comes to mind.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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That goes both ways besides a bystander is dead and another in critical condition from what I'm told thanks to the shooters careless disregard for anybody willing to listen to trump...there's just evil in abundance here.

CuriousFerret

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Scince when has Trump or Republicans been against political violence?

moyomongoose

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Or to put it another way...Stupid games have stupid awards.

The assailant play a stupid game and got a stupid award.

CuriousFerret

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I assume the shooter accepted his fate.

There was no way off that roof without getting shot.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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he stoped fireing BECOUSE he was taken out by a counter sniper secret service had set up for this kinda situation... I have no idea if his intention was to kill himself or flee but he was deleted before he had to reload.

CuriousFerret

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Pity they didn't see him climbing the ladder up there in the first place.

Which of course is going to feed the speculation.

And it's fair to assume.

That secret service detail going to need to be replaced.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ dragonclaws

Its pretty fucking vile yeah...

KittyPrint

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ dragonclaws

I hope every one who is saying things like that are added to the FBI database and are banned from buying guns. Its really depressing that extremism is becoming socially ok and no one seems to notice or care. This is how places in the middle east become so bad and how despots and fascist leaders come to power. They seize upon the clear issues and impose strict laws under the guise of keeping everyone safe. They are all playing right into their hands.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ KittyPrint

i agree "it';s ok to murder people I dont like ebcouse they have polatics I disagree with" is fucking horrible...thats NOT how we do things...

I disagree with a LOT of gender ideology! doesn't mean I want to KILL PEOPLE that's fucking wrong!

Kittzy

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Thank God the shooter missed Trump but very sad people in the crowd got hit. I've seen one article that said the Department of Homeland Security denied Trump the extra security he requested, and now look at what happened.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ Kittzy

If thats true thats pretty fucking gross

Kittzy

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I couldn't find the video that had the article snippet in it, it seems to have been deleted, but I did find basically what was said on Twitter https://x.com/seanmdav/status/1812278386514870623

Alzyx

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Only an idiot would think this was real.

DrgnHybrid

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ Alzyx

It's on every news source. Why would they fake Trump being shot at?

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11 months, 3 weeks ago

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The ballistics don't make sense for it to be staged anyway. Are YOU going to let someone shoot you with an under powered rifle from the edge of lethal range through moving wind and protective glass? If someone farts too hard and the bullet wobbles even a tiny bit you don't walk away. From all the info I can piece together the sniper military crawled into position onto an obvious position on a roof in view of the crowd, was repeatedly reported, no action was taken. A few seconds after shooting starts a single direct hit from the secret service drops the sniper. You have more of a case that this was an inside job than for it being fake.

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11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I really doubt that. No article has stated, that I've read, that the shooter was reported multiple times. Please list a credible source otherwise.

Roof top was outside of the event but not too far away that it couldn't be done. And with an AR at less then 150 meters. Totally possible since Army recruits have to hit a target at 150 meters with the M-16 equivalent. And someone that is weapon trained, there are always tiny variables that can change whether you hit a target directly on or not. Not all of us are perfect shots.

You can see the video and there are multiple shots from the shooter. As not only Trump was hit but also an innocent person and a couple others injured. The counter shots are also multiple. Not just "one single shot."

No need for the tin foil thought process here. You weren't there, I wasn't there. We can only go by what that news has told us.

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Well the reports were from interviewed witnesses. However, I will admit now that I've sobered up from a pretty crappy birthday that the lack of evidence for that in the day of cellphone cameras seems fishy. I will fully agree that we know next to nothing about how he got there, but I find it really weird that the shooter was on the single most OBVIOUS Roof possible and no one noticed. Were the counter-snipers asleep? Did the police lose all their drones? Did no one think to even put a rentacop with a walkie up there just for safety's sake? However, I have no real evidence for my suspicions so I'll just leave them as suspicions.

KittyPrint

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Trump doesn't need to a false flag operation for popularity. He is already popular enough. It would also be very hard to pretend or fake an injury like that on the ear and NO ONE TO NOTICE on the campaign trail. And lastly, even if you did you would not either let yourself be shot or pretend to be shot. Its just TOO dangerous. Why put yourself in any risk when you could just shoot into the crowd for some easy hype?

Only an idiot would think this WASN'T real.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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it was absolutely real...

and there's an old saying never interrupt your opponent when he's making a mistake. lately Biden has been DESTROYING his own credibility.

not only would trying something like this as a staged event be a HUGE risk that could back fire physical and politicaly...but it pulls attenion away from how bad Biden is doing mentaly...wich was GIVEING trump points...

he had nothing to gain from this.

Locutus

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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A successful assassination on Hitler around 1932 would potentially have saved millions. So i have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, nazi lifes don't matter, on the other hand, in this case the nazis would put someone _competent_ up there, which may be worse than the orange baboon...

Netreek

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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1. in 1932 no one would have seen the actual outcome. 2. The murder of the jews was well known and actually no one did care about it, since jews were allways seen as villains. If you don't believe that, then look at some old churches, which were build FAR before 1932. You find the jewpig on them. Also jews were not allowed to work in some fields, just because being jews. 3. Hitler did declare war on other countries. That why people of the other countries did unite to fight back.

There are murders happening in china against a certain group of people. I don't see ANY country attacking china because of that. And why? Because 1. no one would dare and 2. only a few actually do care.

So if Trump would now attack another country, like Putin did or any other ruler, just to widen the area of his rulership, then it is understandable, that this certain country will send assassins to stop him to destroy their country.
But as far I did hear he doesn't intend to invade countries like Europe. So there is no reason to do so. Only if you are a lunatic, like those guys who attack the pope and try to kill him.

Locutus

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I tend to agree with that sentiment, but you have to factor in that Trump has a massive cult around him that doesn't care about his political goals, all they care about is their golden lamb. Taking that away would likely be a massive blow to the right-wing agenda.

In a way it goes similar for what happened in the 1930s, as in this case the party would have lost a charismatic and extremely determined leader. Without him as the spearhead, the agenda of the nazis may have crubled. The failed attempts ofc only fueled the fire that was already burning, same as it does now. This attempt on Trump is probably the best thing that could happen to him...

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That why an assassination also at that moment is stupid, like trying to kill Hitler before he did what he did. It can be used. "Look, the XXX trying to get rid of me. They know I am right. We need to unite." add in the XXX any sort of group of people, which are seen as enemy at the moment.

Alone his fist move and making it HARDER for the Secret Service team to protect him. WTF. His head was long enough in the open to get sniped. You put your head down. Not up.

KittyPrint

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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That is a huge assumption. That Trump is like Hitler and is poised to try to create an American Nazi like state that is.

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Where are you getting that Trump is a nazi?

Locutus

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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xD good one xD

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Replying to myself because

Locutus

blocked me.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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He blocked everybody in this thread that said anything positive about trump..He is free to disagree infact I encourage it.. but this is immature behavior that simply shows he wants to sit in a echo chamber with his mind poison and not think...

this is why I don't like talking politics online especially with other furries XD

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 1 week ago

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*hugs*

I’m gonna just leave this here, cuz there’s some folks who need to hear it…

https://youtu.be/MnOeGotHCYE?si=9WRAfinPBDy4yAvt

#ChrisBoden
@physicsduck

Netreek

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To try to assassinate someone would only be ok, if that person would be allready sitting in the highest position, ruling the country and running a dictatorship or running a terrorist group. Specially the leaders of a terrorist group are okay to be assassinated. So as long Trump is not leading the country again and this time in form a dictatorship, where he commands the murder of everyone who are against him and people he just doesn't like, there is no reason to assassinate him.
Example Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler, Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus aka Caligula aso. People like those guys.
I sure don't want to see the U.S. having Trump as a President again, who says "It is okay if Putin attacking NATO-States, who don't invest the certain ammount in the military. Those may be taken over by Putin. I would even support him."

The U.S. has atm two people to choose from. A guy who belongs into jail and not being allowed to be president (Trump) and an old dude who should allready enjoy his last days of live together with his family (Biden). With Biden I wouldn't be surprised that he will die of old age during being president. He is over 80 allready. I sure wouldn't be surprised that in like 1 or 2 years his family or others around him finds him "eternal sleeping" in his chair.

MickiTheFox

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Unfortunately, I'm not surprised, but it's really awful. No buddy is perfect, but I firmly believe he could be a great president. Hopefully he stays safe and sound... and everyone else here too! Honestly, it feels like dark times are ahead. :/

moyomongoose

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Let's hope this incident doesn't instigate other nut jobs to do the same thing to other political candidates.
It truly would be dark times ahead if that becomes the norm in every election.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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careful! common sense and an open mind are dangeorus things around here lately!

but I tend to agree... im not wild about him as a person but his first 4 years were fine...

R0XIZ

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I do wish that Trump was dead, I don't care it's the truth. The world would be better off without him.

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Don't worry, once Election Via Assassination is a more accepted thing they'll rack up a couple of your heroes as well. You do GET That's why we don't want to go down this road, right?

R0XIZ

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Nope, I don't understand what you mean by "heroes". What heroes are you referring to? Because I don't see any. All I see is people, predominately MAGA, resorting to violence and inciting violence to solve their problems.

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Whatever you need to tell yourself. Just don't whine when a celebrity you like gets a new nostril.

R0XIZ

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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"celebrity"???

The word I'd describe him would be "thug, tyrant, degenerate, liar, hypocrite, agitator"

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Enjoy your TDS, kiddo.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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violance twords somebody for there political belifs is wrong... should I wish you dead becouse your a leftist? should I wish you dead becouse your gay or a furry or non binary or whatever you subscribe to?

NO... No i should fucking not!

You are FREE to dislike trump to disagree with his polacies to vote against him!

just as he and his supporters are free to run for office and vote for the things THEY belive in.

thats the fucking POINT thats why America is by the people for the people..

not buy the one group fo people are are convinced there fucking right and fuck anybody who thinks otherwise...

get out of that echo chamber it's rotting your mind DX if your friends in that space are OK with murder you need better friends, get out of that space.

R0XIZ

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Wishing someone dead and killing someone are two entirely different things, don't confuse these.

And no I'm sorry but I speak honestly alright, there are evil people that deserve to die and Donald Trump is one of them. He is not a good man at all. If you don't agree then you're blind, I'm sorry.

I speak the truth and I'm sorry but take this with a grain of salt: the world would be a better place without him, without Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong-Un. These and all evil-doers and agitators. If you believe in a hell then these guys are definitely going there.

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Um, where are you getting your information about these guys?

R0XIZ

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Kim Jong-Un intentionally starves his own people, subjugates them and during COVID intentionally killed those infected to try to prevent the spread of disease.

Vladimir Putin's war on Ukraine is an act of sheer madness. He's intentionally targeting civilian hospitals and schools. Innocent people are dying because of him.

Donald Trump's presidency was a hellhole. During COVID he did nothing to help. As a healthcare worker we were stretched thin and were completely outnumbered and unprepared for this. He could've done something to prevent it from happening by stopping all trade coming in and out of the country or at least try to give more bsi equipment to those that desperately needed it but he didn't care. During the time of Jan 6 he tried to misuse the military national guard and wanted them to intentionally shoot protesters.

These are not stories, this actually happened and it makes me sick that these guys got away with these atrocities. I've seen it for myself.

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11 months, 3 weeks ago

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While I have to agree of course it's immoral to wish someone dead, I honestly can't believe I'm seeing anyone here excuse that man at all. Calling his beliefs purely political is willful ignorance. The things he has publicly stated are immoral and unethical on a elementary understanding of morality and ethics.

In short, good to see people not condoning the actions of what happened in that tragedy. Awful to see more people, let alone people here, defend a proven racist, biggot, sexist and terrible human being.
Killing bad. Hating cartoonishly evil man okay. Not political.

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Because he's now a martyr and in the near unique position to be a LIVING one. You UNDERSTAND that, yes? He won, it's over.

SugarRush

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Not commenting on the ethics of him being killed. This was more directed at people saying things along the lines of letting him say what he wants to say, letting everyone have their own political beliefs, etc.
I was just arguing back that to support him or claim disagreeing with his beliefs is political is a willfully ignorant standpoint. A casual level of research into the things he has said and believes reveals he believes truely evil things.

Basically, this was all awful and can't and shouldn't condone it. But I spotted a lot of comments speaking of this man like he deserves respect. Let's not pretend any sane and ethical individual should agree this is a dangerous mentally ill man that shouldn't be allowed near any position of power. He belongs in an institution where he can't harm anyone or bring harm to himself.

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And the guy already in charge doesn't know where he is and is too demented to release power. So no one has any real ground to stand on... except one side didn't just try to MURDER the other.

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11 months, 3 weeks ago

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your free to disagree with him or anybody else...but It's probobly not a great idea to think it's odd that a lot of people might agree with him.. especialy with how much a lot of "normies" are disagreeing with the left lately...just ebocuse this site is furry doesnt mena everybody here is a globalist a commie a socialist or a progressive... this comunity has abad habit fo forming echo chambers.

keep an open mind.

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I will always disagree with people who are hateful, racist and bigoted. I kind of feel like this is just a basic human empathy thing, not a matter of preference or opinion. I am only very confused by whether you and others actually condone the unethical behavior he's shown countless times, are ignorant of it, or actually believe he isn't that bad.

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which unethical behavior In particular? the stormy danials shit? i could care less

His opinion that that forein nations are not allways sending there best over to America? hes not wrong...an ugly truth is still the truth.

Are you referring to something he has done in his personal life or his business? Im not a huge fan of the guy to be honest but hes done a better job the biden has in the four years weve given each of them and he over all tends to support more things I agree with then I disagree with.

is it so hard to think I might go with the lesser evil? the Democratic party has Consistent been full of shit and not good for any of the peoples or groups they claim to be so dang good for...

when you say hate and bigotry do you mean ACTUAL hate and bigotry or just things that you don't like or that make you feel icky or that you might disagree with? I cant be sure any more when I'm talking to somebody who uses language like that, sometimes there a functional adult and sometimes there a complete mental infant and there living in a fantasy world were those words mean something different depending on who you ask.

becouse we can agree that actual hate and bigotry should be something we strive to avoid to grow beyound to be better then.

But if you want me to agree with you that Anything and everything is OK because of somebodies fucking feelings...and if I dont AGREE with those feelings im some how a hateful bigot Im sorry but thats simply not reality...

I do not hate people for the color of there skin or the preference for whom they want to warm there bed...

But i will ABSOLUTELY not agree with SOME people yes even to the point of justified Disapproval, based on the conduct of there actions or the ideological garbage there preaching if it's a threat to my safety or freedoms or if it's in and of itself, hateful or closed minded.

SugarRush

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I casual internet search pulled up a staggering amount of articles and information on past comments Trump has made that objectively come off as blatantly racist, for one. However, I am going to just freely admit I find it too tiring to continue the work needed to actually build a arguement by researching each source to make sure it's respectable, cross reference information, etc.

My own opnion of him is formed from a decade of countless things I saw him say during debates and speeches. Wording that can, at best, be seen as accidentally racist. Aggressive and demeanind behavior towards women. So many times. Phrasing that I've seen people get fired at their job for. But I guess it was okay for our president to say. I have no direct quotes because it was over many years. It's truly been a astonishing amount of crassness and "verbal misteps" to excuse. Again, even a casual search pulls up quotes that are inexcusable. But it occurs to me one might just argue it's all mudslinging.

I ain't got the energy for it. I just wanted to know why his, at best, "erratic" behavior tends not to come up for people who pick him as a lesser evil.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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for some it's beocuse they support the republican party becouse it drives forword polacy they agree with and they could care less about the man, for others they think he persoanly as a more or less anti establishment candidate is a shake up wouldent be the first time a crook was the right choice for a poltician.

for others they intentionaly pick him beocuse he provides a voice for a large faction of silent and thus far ignored americans who are honestly...fucking tired....of the constent progressive bullshit or being told there evil for not feeling uilty about there race there origin or there relgious belifes...

multi reasons it takes a whole village i belive is the saying...damn near HALF the nation, supports the presidential candidates at any given time...give or take.

He has an America first polacy platform and has recagnized a lot of government issues that I persoanl have been complaining about for a long while now...if hes willing to do That while in office then he serves me as a Citzen. His personal bullshit, long as he keeps it personal, is of little concern compared to what he intends to do in office.

now maybe in his second term hes going to be the wrost bastard ever...but he was pretty decent in his first term, and hes a damn cry better then a walking corpse puppit, or the CONTIOUSLY farther and father left agendea of the democratic party in power currently.

so so people would vote for him simply to stop that.

there isnt one single reson.

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Thank you for admitting that the media is not always 100% correct on everything. :3

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Could you recite for us a list of Trump’s crimes, and Biden’s crimes, side-by-side, please?

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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we don't have enough of a character limit X3

Locutus

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Trump:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictments_against_Donal... lists 34 charges of falsifying business records (verdict guilty on all of them), 40 charges of mishandling of classified documents (dismissed), 14 charges of trying to overturn an election (no verdict yet)
There's also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misco...

(honestly, that there's a few dedicated wiki pages just to his crimes is some fucked up shit...)

Biden:
So far no charges made against him personally, just some legal controversy against his son, apparently. not that he has much to do with that. no conviction there either.

not that i really expect you to change your opinion based on facts tho...i feel you're way beyond that. but just looking at these side-by-side does tell quite the story of what kind of human being trump is. not sure why anyone would be like "yea that guy's fit for presidency". but then again, as a european, i can't do shit about you guys voting for him...

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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We all know who the big guy is man...

the Biden administration and entire political Dynasty at this point is deeply corrupt...fuck most politicians seem to be these days.

I care a lot less about what they do in there privite lives and a lot more about they do in there capcity as president and what there goals are. Bidens done to much damage for me. He needs to go im not gonna vote for him because "Orange man bad!" esepcialy not when Orange man did a pretty good job his first 4 years has protected the center and the center right from alot of this cultural erosion were suddenly haveing to out up with and has been actively trying to do SOEMTHING about our flagging economy and outrageous illegal immigrent problem.

whats Biden done? pushed mroe democratic ideals and Funneled stupids amounts of people into the nation illegaly, watering down Census data and effecting the electoral callage and hosue seats avilable in favor of the demacrates...nAh..miss me with that crap.

Locutus

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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That's quite the delusional stance, since literally any available statistic speaks against your arguments. I guess america's gotta make the same mistakes my people did in the 1930s to really understand fascism. I guess all i can do is wish you good luck then. Go vote for the wannabe dictator and see how things play out, i guess.

The question you should ask yourself is "will i be spared". Seeing the (awesome) art you do, i'm gonna go with "nope".

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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SO, I have a Delusional stance becouse I happen to support a perspective you do not? I often find people who insult rather then debate, have nothing TO debate.

Also the fact your illudeing to trump his supportors or even the right win party in america as "facist" makes me think you have no idea what your talking about. a Halmark of that ideology for example is repessing speach. the right wings not the oens doing the currently... not by a long shot...the progressive elements are far closer to actual Facism then anything else in this country outside of the ACTUAL facists...who thankfully have little to know politcal power.

But this is america and we protect freedom of speech here so yes, even the facists have a voice.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Oh that is ADORIBLE!

You argue about Facism On MY page XD decide you don't like the fact that I DONT think trump is laterally the devil and so you blocked me XD Thanks for making my point FOR ME! XD fuck off XD

WerKayena1992

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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project 2025,thats all am gona say,and trump is support it.

ConoStudios

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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this ^

KittyPrint

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Its so wonderful that American's are all for political assassinations. Something that fascists were ALSO very happy and willing to do along with terrorists. I don't want Trump as my president either. But endorsing or even THINKING that murdering him is a good thing is flat out EVIL and UNHINGED. You need to get your fucking priorities straight. If THIS is how you want it to go then the other side will resort to it as well. Mark my words. The extreme right IS going to retaliate and when you whine about it or possibly caught up in some domestic terrorist bombing I want you to remember that it was the extreme LEFT that fired the first shot AND YOU ENDORSED IT.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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does not...and has not at this point.

in fact project 2025 is a disgusting roadmap of stupid shit ultra conservatives want no different then the road maps of stupid shit ive seen progressive DEMS post about...

this is no different the vast majortiy dont support it...just like most leftists thankfully reject globalism and communism.

ConoStudios

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Remember his base all called for democrats to be hung and lets not forget Jan 6. Not saying it's good that any of this is happening as I fucking hate the guy, but this type of shit was bound to happen. I just thought it was gonna happen a long time ago but I guess as more and more of his base of getting radicalized and everyone on both sides are fearing our country is about to die depending on who's elected. People are just saying fuck it and taking their chances.

Hope this was a wake up call for his base, but lets be honest this is just gonna make them wanna support him even more and/or call for violence against other people.

PS The shooter was a registered republican

KittyPrint

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Why would this be a wake up call for HIS base? Its been the left leaning media and the entire DNC that's been fear mongering the most for the last 4 years. Even MORE so now! President Biden is STILL making it seem like only HE can "save" America from Trump when he asked for things to "cool off" during his speech tonight. This has less to do with Trumps rhetoric and MORE to do with the Liberal think tank doing their best to paint Trump as an existential crisis for American Democracy. So I'm not surprised in the least this happened.

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they did not and the ones that called for violance were largly shouted down. as for jan 6 ive seen the footage...they were let inside it was mostly entirely peaceful the fucked around inside a public building and then they left...and some people are doing time for that...

they diddent stomr the capital they diddent SEIZE the government there was no damn "inserection" like the media tried to push...nobody was taken hostage, the one death that occured was accidental the others that were balmed on it were incidental and did not even OCCURE on jan 6...it's a clown show.

trumps not perfect and some ass holes who support him do so beocuse they hope he will farther there ass hole belifs but trumps not nearly as far right as people think and to be honest...theres a reason why around ahlf the nation supports the guy...

no insult intended but a lot of people on the left need to wake up and realize there progressive values are leaning far more to the extream then they realize and there beliefs are not the norm.

ConoStudios

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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good to know you're a Jan 6 denier :(

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I dont denigh it happened but anybody who does 15 minuts of research can tell it weas not a fucking "insurrection" the BLM protests that happened a little bit before that took lives and caused way more property damage them a bunch of guys in trucker hats half of them there for the fucking MEMES walking around the capital building...

there footage od cops Escaping people around in there...

Wake up dude X3

Jan 6 was bad behavoir and I dont condone it...but it's not what some of the media outlets made it into. What were they gonna do? squat in the capital building and say theyw ere the new governemnt? there was noa ttempt to overthrow jack shit it's a a big ol dick wiggling thing...

they walked around they got bored they left.

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Of the Republicans you know, how many are as you describe?

BlazenShadow

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Donald Trump #2024
"Let's Make America Great Once Again" My prayers for Trump, His Family, Friends, And the victims of this attack on our country "Me and my family's prayers for everyone involved not the shooter or the guilty"

Today, we gather in a moment of deep reflection and concern. Recent events have shaken our nation and reminded us of the fragility of our democracy. The assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump is a stark reminder of the dangers that arise when political discourse turns into violence.

Regardless of our political affiliations, whether we support or oppose certain leaders, it is imperative that we remember one fundamental truth: our differences should never lead to harm or threats against one another. We are a nation built on the principles of freedom, justice, and democracy. These principles are the bedrock of our society, and they demand that we engage with each other peacefully and respectfully.

Political violence is not only a threat to the individuals targeted but also to the very fabric of our democracy. When we allow anger and hatred to override our commitment to civil discourse, we risk tearing apart the bonds that hold us together as a nation. The attempt on Donald Trump's life is not just an attack on a former president; it is an attack on our democratic values and the rule of law.

We must all take responsibility for the role we play in fostering a culture of peace and respect. This responsibility extends to our leaders, our media, and ourselves as citizens. Leaders must denounce violence unequivocally and encourage their followers to engage in peaceful dialogue. The media must strive to report responsibly, avoiding sensationalism that can inflame tensions. And as individuals, we must commit to listening to one another, even when we disagree, and to resolving our differences through debate, not destruction.

In times of division, it is easy to forget our shared humanity. We must remember that behind every political opinion is a person with hopes, fears, and dreams. Our diversity of thought is a strength, not a weakness, and it is through this diversity that we can find innovative solutions to the challenges we face.

Let us honor the resilience of our democratic institutions by standing together against violence in all its forms. Let us pledge to uphold the values of respect, empathy, and responsibility in our political engagements. And let us work tirelessly to ensure that our politics remain a beacon of hope and progress for future generations.

The attempt on Donald Trump's life is a grave reminder of the work we have ahead of us. But it is also an opportunity to reaffirm our commitment to a peaceful and responsible political culture. Together, we can build a future where our differences are resolved through dialogue and where our shared commitment to democracy prevails.

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ BlazenShadow

Amen, brother!

Kittzy

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Amen as well

Echo101

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Not saying its a good thing, but I'm not sure this wasn't staged. Dude got a gun through the security then fired ten shots but none of them managed to be a decisive hit. Stormtroopers have better aim.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ Echo101

it's only the first shot that hit him and it's likely thats beocuse it was carefully aimed the next several were panic shots and trump was only stanidng up for one or two of those...shooter just got unlucky hoenstly... trump turn his head slightly right befor the shot...had he not he would likely be dead.

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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One shot hits trump. Several fly wild and kill people in crowd. SS takes one shot. Everything is silent. Sniper died instantly.

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project 2025 is supported by trump,funded by china and is basically,if trump wings,in the 180 days hes in office,he will run the country as a christian church.Like in far cry 5,Rip all gay's rights,abolished furrys,control the internet,end transgender.It be worst than hitler.Has anyone seen what happens when a town is run by a christian goverment??.think people!!,it be a huge ass civil war if project 2025 has the green light ahead...if people vote for trump and he wins..we can all say godbye to everything...

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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What proof do you have that Trump supports P2025?

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you can find it online,this is what it says The project, a collaboration of dozens of conservative organizations, is overseen by the Heritage Foundation, a right-wing think tank. The group is independent of the Trump campaign, a fact Project 2025 and Trump himself have emphasized. "I know nothing about Project 2025," Trump said on social media in early July.and based on the data leaked by the gay furry hackers.

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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You just proved that Trump does NOT support P2025, thank you. :3

Locutus

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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"proved"? how? because he said so? ...if trump tells you the sky is blue, you should definitely go outside and check...

FoxiLumine

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Trump has not explicitly stated that he supports Project 2025 but he has said pretty much that Heritage Foundation is laying the ground work with detail plans. And that they are doing an incredible job. Given that most of former staff are now doing work for the Heritage Foundation, including his press secretary who is on a now unlisted video for the them. He doesn't call it by name but he seems pretty supportive of it until it drew negative press.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ FoxiLumine

Meny of the more egregious things in that road map would be WILDLY unpopular with Americans on both sides, there shitty little wish list wont set policy

Grey48

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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A martyr is not what we need right now. Especially not with his rabbid followers.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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@ Grey48

honestly if you hate trump....hate what he stands for HATE his voter base...the LAST thing you want is him assassinated!

but most screeching morons cant think past there own feelings long enough to LOOK at the bigger picture let alone comprehend it...

if you HATE trump you want him to lose then quitly fade away into obscurity...

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Heh. Poor kid. I don't know what you were EXPECTING out of this. Most furries would gleefully take shots at Trump themselves. Just wait for the massive rush of "AIM CAREFULLY NEXT TIME!" memes. Or YCHs where you can pay to be the sniper.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I was expecting adults to act like it and not be Pro the most anti american thing i can think of....

I dont like bidan and i cant fucking stand harris doesn't mean I think they should be assassinated.

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I want 95% of our government taken out of office... and put in a nice nursing home somewhere. That's pretty much the extent of my political beliefs. *chuckles* It seems like everyone else wants to go "CIVIL WAR! HO!".

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11 months, 3 weeks ago

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am just gona leave this section behind.Am neutral on everything.But i want everyone on here to be safe,and carefull.done replying.

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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*pats your head* for that alone, you are cool with me. Even if I AM mildly drunk.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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honestly bro... I agree! I want everybody to be safe, and to keep an open mind and a weather eye out.

ZwolfJareAlt306

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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All the best to you, and take care of yourself! :3

MarcusKoopa

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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https://youtu.be/YbRy-0aS1KA?t=300 This is my last comment on this. yes. Everyone knew. No one DID anything.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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yeah... this is.. insane DX

Sheylyra

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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I sayd in one of my former post that this smells like an inside joke, BUT after reviewing the information in this video and the video i posted, it stinks like an inside job, i definetly can see the unhinged left trying to take out an opponent to stay in power. You know who does this, the Peoples Republik of Cina, North Korea, Russia, just to name a few, this is as far away from democracy as it gets. Do you really want them in controll of the USA? Go voting, make a choice. And in case they grab power by force and show their true collors, the 2. Ammendment is there for a reason.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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i really dont like how things played out.. I mean I dont like it for meny reasons but cheif amoung them was how LONG they KNEW the shooter was there and DID NOTHING. I was was trump I would address this issue immediately.

of corse im sure the fact the Biden administration run the DHS and the DHS is incharge of secret survice security details has NOTHING to do with it...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbsQJcwMvDs

a little bit on the germans perspective of this, i know the video is in german, but youtube's auto translate should work.

Sheylyra

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Btw, it was big in the News today, that German Comedian Asshole who made fun of the Shooting and sayd that he was diappointed that the Assassination wasnt succesful. The same Asshole that was payd with our taxes, well he lost his well payd easy and stressfree Job. Also Elon Musk had some pretty hard question for our idiot Chancler.

KevinSnowpaw

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Whats it the woke zombies are allways saying?

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences? X3

Sheylyra

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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It feels so good when consequences finally hit the right ones.

Teh

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Aaaah so you're an anti-woke?
Funny considering you like Lilo so much.

KevinSnowpaw

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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I fail to see how enjoyment of a character has anything to do with my disdain for the mindless regurgitation of whats effectively communist ideology at worst and progressive rote rhetoric at best.

Teh

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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How the heck is it communist?

KevinSnowpaw

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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History.

Communism and socialism for example are both Collectivist ideologies, Progressives are Not all but often are overwhelming more so then many other political groups in the USA Communist or socialist, this root in collectivism is ultimately what leads people do subscribe to things like communism, not I said AT WORST above not always.

BlazenShadow

11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Everybody stay safe, and KevinSnowpaw thanks for posting this very needed.

Teh

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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I'm afraid at this point it's kind of inevitable.
And this guy HAS enabled neo's, bigots and hatred to spread. He goaded people into committing a seige on a gov building. Just saying, fuck around and find out. It's not okay. But it's also not okay to create a world where this happens.

KevinSnowpaw

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this is a hell of a necro post.

There are a few points wrong with your statement, but I'm going to just skip over that and jump right into the meat of the thing.

Trump is not Hitler, attempting to kill him was for political beliefs somebody else does not hold is a retarded move, with a capital R so stupid in fact that it is deeply insulting to people with mental developmental issues to even compare the two! It was morally wrong, and it failed besides, which only served to make his victory all the easier as now he's a Symbol of Freedom of Speech and Expression willing to Die for what he believes in, where before he was just a guy who says things some people agree with. At least in the eyes of his most fervent followers.

Trumps not the far right Ideolog the left paints him as, hell he was a democrat most of his life, Trumps a Populist and a centrist who has leaned center right as a response to the ridicules ideological nonsense that's been building up for YEARS! It's finally hit the point where Normal people. Not just the politically motivated, but average people who normally arnt online 24/7 and couldn't care LESS about things like identity politics or Americas standing on the world stage have stated to take notice...and he was the only one making any promises to fix that, counter it or return things to a perceived normal.

That is a powerful thing.

Trump did not win this election, he did not win his first one either... the progressive left won it for him.

Trumps a Symptom in response to a problem the majority are resisting, if the problem is not corrected you will see MORE of him with different faces soon enough. A overly simplified way to refer to the problem is to call it Wokeism but thats really an oversimplifications, as progressive ideology alone is not the whole problem, it's a combination of factors including the Majorities Shrinking influence and importance. the changing visual and political landscape of America and the fact that most average people AKA normies see some of this shit and go "what the fuck even IS that! no thank you" and the vote for the guy who is opposed to it.

You can love trump or absolutely DISPISE him but Assassination is never going to be the way to handle that.

Teh

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And how the hell is any of what they fight for a problem to "Normal people"?
More diversity? More rights? More consideration for others?

KevinSnowpaw

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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rosy gloss on top of bigger issues. Nobody really has a problem with the stuff you just listed. They do however have a problem with a lot of the methods used to achieve those goals, as well as the consequences of those methods.

Empathy is VERY easy to have when the results do not affect you and cost you nothing.

The talking points you just listed are the default go to for the progressive left, because they sound rather nice.

Normal people start to notice when things become uncomfortable for them or they start to effect them. case in point the trans gender thing.. Normal people dont realy care about it all that much, its super uncommon to run into one IRL they make up a tiny portion of the population but when you start policeing language and demanding biological Males should be allowed to compete in sports against biological females it starts become an issue that concerns them and they start to act on it for better or for worse.

More diversity? America is one of the most Diverse places on earth, MORE diversity just translates to "you must open up and accept everybody in" people are slow to change and fear what they dont understand, and to some extent rightly so. We are NOT all inherently good, we are NOT all compatible with American or even western culture, we do not all have good intentions...we should not become Europe. Thats not to say people should not immigrate to the USA but part fo the imigration process involves INTEGRATION into the culture at large.

More rights?

Define Rights? the right to do what? some people want the right to do some really heinous shit. Now I'm bordering Libertarian, so I tend to agree the government should spend as LITTLE time telling people what they can and cannot do as possible but some things should not be rights...also a great deal of things people ASSUME are rights are actually just privileges of living in a prosperous 1st world nation or sometimes LITERALLY just America that they take for granted is a right but is not. Rights are something that cannot be taken away, Anything else is a privlidge.

More consideration for others?

That has to be a choice, compelled consideration isnt. Also once again it's EASY to demand others do something that may result in cost to them, especially when your already doing it or it wont effect you, but I could just as easily argue you have no right to force others to accept or follow your beliefs or world view.

Regardless of Your, My Or anybody elses feelings on the matter the Silent majority voted for trump, and the Republican Party, even in some states were Historically there very democrat and very blue.

I think MAYBE thats a sign the left has lost track of what the common Normie cares about, prioritizes and is motivated by, and if your political party serves the minority in a Democracy Or Republic your not doing it right.

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Speak this BS to actual trans people, see how long they hold water :3
Your talk of america being diverse, and yet you have a rise in bigotry and a push backwards. Sure buddy.
Biology is irrelevant, you can end up with the wrong body at birth. It's bee proven. You telling me thousands of people are wrong?
Your definition of rights is also shaky. What is not compatible with western culture? Cultures can meld and accept each other. Or are you using obvious exceptions? Because I bet you are, shit that hurts others etc.
Just be honest with yourself dude, you profess to be normal yet never have a thing to say about anyone other than the left.
Go and actually talk to these groups, or are you convinced you can't "debate" them?

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I brought up one example involve that particular issue to illustrate that the majority isent nearly as hung up about it one way or the other as it seems like we all are online...and you go an make it like the entire argument is somehow about trans people? XD I dunno what to tell you, man.

If you think I don't talk to people then you clearly have no idea who I am XD I talk to these groups all the damn time, sometimes we see eye to eye sometimes we agree to disagree sometimes we fight...you're the one Necroing a journal of all most a god-damn year ago.

XD

GO find something better to do.

Teh

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I could say the same to you on that last point.
I've been chatting with couple other IB regulars. Apparently they got sick of your BS too.
I'm done playing chess with a pigeon but please go and think you came out of this looking better. You, your country, your idiot comrades (ooo, communist phrase) time will come.

KevinSnowpaw

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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Again...you are the on necromancer posting and you think I need to find something better to doing? Sure your not deluded at all... also to your other comment I think I've an idea just who your talking about but sounds to me like if these people are real and they were truly so fickle were they ever really a friend? you go have fun! Me and my idiot country will be over here. When you grow up get a life and stop trying to start shit on old journals your welcome back any time. Just keep it constructive and civil.

Teh

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When/if you come to your sense, or your country goes down in flames, your welcome to rethink.

KevinSnowpaw

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