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"	RoareyRaccoon wrote:
	I don't think it's going to blow over, it has to be directly fought and countered. It can only be countered if people openly speak out against it and are willing to brace themselves for the fire that results.

Agreed.

moyomongoose

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ AloofPeacock

I'm sure in the year 1299, everyone thought the Ottoman Empire was going to blow over when it was getting started.
At the height of it's glory in the middle ages, the Empire occupied much of Europe, North Africa, the British Isles and all of the middle east.
More than six centuries after it began, it was at the end of WW1 when it collapsed as an ally of Germany.

fairwind1988

6 years, 9 months ago

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Agreed, don't get too personal when debating about ideas.

DerpBowlWelf

6 years, 9 months ago

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No matter what the intention is, harassment is always wrong, it shouldn't happen much less under the cause of "defending" someone else. It is cool to know some people care enough to defend you, however it is still wrong and often times gives the image that you're sending white knights, which not only isn't true, for this case in particular, as it does look awful. I hope this matter simply dies off, shit happened and it's been solved, no need to keep adding timber to the fire.

EstebanG

6 years, 9 months ago

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Heh... these people are pikers. I've been harassed by the best, and these folks ain't it.

nelson88

6 years, 9 months ago

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We live in a world where there is diversity of opinions!I could say blue and you say red!For this reason there are whites, blacks, Chinese, Hispano-American, etc, diversity unites us and different opinions too!But always with due respect from the one who thinks otherwise!
For example, it's like my gallery!Not everything I have there is going to like everyone!Some like it and other hates them!You brought an important theme and diversity of opinions flows like a river!^^

eeveefan

6 years, 9 months ago

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what is even going on? im kinda confused here. did something happen?

DerpBowlWelf

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ eeveefan

Roarey posted a cartoon about the gender unicorn, it caused a lot of crap and apparently some of the people who support him went on harassing those who don't.

eeveefan

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ DerpBowlWelf

i dont know anything about the cartoon but people shouldnt attack others just cause they dont support it. i hope things get settled soon.

DerpBowlWelf

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ eeveefan

That's most of the internet, they don't have anything else to do rather than play hero (and fail horribly at it...).

Daneasaur

6 years, 9 months ago

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Wise words.

I also laughed my butt off at your other upload.

GreenDude

6 years, 9 months ago

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the cartoon was pretty on point, a shame so many people can't even deal with satire anymore these days. gender ideology has gotten way out of hand the past 5 years, i am very happy to see more and more people stand up to this anti-science-protect-muh-feels group of despicable people. you even got some of them to just up and leave because of one single picture, which is a hillarious feat to have accomplished :D

Alondite

6 years, 9 months ago

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Also, I think that... people just shouldn't get offended so easily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceS_jkKjIgo

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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Maybe it's worth considering; if a certain expressed viewpoint garners you followers that you find abhorrent, maybe you should reevaluate the viewpoint you're expressing.

Stratus

6 years, 9 months ago

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Or maybe some self righteous people should accept there's extreme ass holes in every walk of life and mind their own business.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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If that is indeed the case and the concentration of assholes is equal then they would not warrant discussion by any party. Clearly that is not the case.

Stratus

6 years, 9 months ago

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By that logic the transtrender lynch mob is all I need to see to know we're in the right

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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And what does the lynch mob of people harassing those who disagreed with Roarey prove?

Stratus

6 years, 9 months ago

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That there are an equal or greater amount of terrible people opposing his views so handful of turd sandwiches that showed up to support him isn't grounds in itself to question the validity of his opinions.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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At the very least it completely invalidates your previous comment...

Stratus

6 years, 9 months ago

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I don't see how and you didn't even bother to try and explain your thought process there.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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You copped a bullshit claim as being the persecuted minority while asserting that the concentration of assholes is equal all around.

"the transtrender lynch mob is all I need to see to know we're in the right"

"there are an equal or greater amount of terrible people opposing his views so handful of turd sandwiches that showed up to support him isn't grounds in itself to question the validity of his opinions."

These two positions are mutually exclusive, my dude.

Stratus

6 years, 9 months ago

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"TransTRENDER lynch mob" referring to the circle jerk of wanna be shit heads that descended apon the image in question. Not referring to a mob going after trans folk. You either didn't read what I said or are intentially misrepresenting it. Either way I sir I am not the one copping bullshit.

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6 years, 9 months ago

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If you do something and other people react to it by doing other things you didn't do, you're actually responsible. Orrrrr that's not how reality is, people are individuals with agency and if you abuse someone online for an opinion you're a cunt, not the person whose opinion you hate, you. Maybe its worth looking in the mirror, practicing the shit you preach and sorting yourself out.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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That isn't what I said nor is it what I implied.

How about a more extreme example:
If you're expressing a viewpoint and find yourself surrounded by neo-nazi followers and are not yourself a neo-nazi, maybe you should reexamine the viewpoint you are expressing.

i.e. if you find yourself in common cause with objectionable people and in opposition to people you normally agree with, maybe you should pause and consider why that is.

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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Reexamine yourself. My opinion in this is basic biology. I don't have popularity with Nazis, I have popularity with people who are pro science and facts above feelings. A tiny minority have decided to behave badly and I have made a journal denouncing it. Nice try but you're full of shit.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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And, as a biologist, when I say that your take on the subject of gender is crap, does that give you any impetus to reexamine it?

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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No, because you haven't bothered to read what I've written on the subject (the essay in the previous journal) and actually provide a counter argument. You've simply been a lying, disingenuous twat. Your being a biologist is also an appeal to authority, you could be a shit biologist just like you're shit at arguing.

Demesejha

6 years, 9 months ago

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Its almost like when you're presented with actual information to the contrary it doesn't matter all of a sudden because your worldview is the only one that matters to you.

You get off on causing trouble, no I don't think that goes far enough, actually you have so much personal self loathing and shame that you have to hold onto the idea that you are always right or you break down.

Go look at some actual biology texts, things from harvard for example that have come out in the last 3 years completely shoot down your "theory" which isn't based in science its just out and out misinformation predicated on the idea that gender and sex are not only the same thing but are so intrinsically linked that they can never be removed.

You yourself claim to be a homoromantic asexual, but the split attraction model and therefore split identity model either exists or it doesn't.

You can't in one breath claim your (and I must admit ridiculous, how do you folks put it "sjw friendly") "homoromantic Ace" identity is not complete and utter bullshit, is normal and in the next claim that trans people who simply want to be respected for their own identity, that they are insane or otherwise.

Are you really that self deluded? Or are you just stupid.

Either way in the end, you are so hung up on your personal guilt, and getting off on people harassing you that you can't help but make trouble so people will rag on you.

Go see a shrink, chug some pills, you're the one who has something wrong with them; just like the last three times you had a major meltdown and left the fandom or /changed your content or etc.

Looks like none of those things matter or lasted long either, you're still drawing cub art consistently despite saying its something that bothers you. You're still doing a considerable amount of porn for someone who claims sex is repulsive to you.

I mean you're a walking talking hypocrisy generator. Get some help.

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6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Demesejha

What actual information? My twitter profile info is SATIRE. My use of the terms homoromantic asexual are not gender constructs and I use them half-jokingly. I love men and don't have much of a sex drive. It's not a new gender, it's a basic description of my behaviour and sexual preference.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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You know, it's not really an appeal to authority when I'm the authority in this example... I mean, I for sure know more about the scientific angle of this topic than you do because I've devoted a significant portion of my life to studying it and you dismissing that knowledge and expertise out of hand simply serves to illustrate that you aren't actually interested in having any kind of discussion.

You just want to throw your uneducated opinion out there and play the victim when faced with consequences for doing so. Take a break from this, mate. You're losing your mind.

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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Demonstrate your knowledge.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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And how could I do that in a convincing way for you?

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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By actually presenting an argument that contradicts mine.

Demesejha

6 years, 9 months ago

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That's impossible because its been done' you get off on this remember because you're a child who only knows how to scream "wrong" when anything else is presented for them.

Theres no argument to give, because you don't want an argument you want to "win" or see people die trying. You don't give a shit. You just want guiltbait and wank material.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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You've already had many presented to you over the last day or so, several of them using the same research that I would likely cite, and you've not engaged on any of them that I've seen. Why would this time be any different?

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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I've had a lot of comments over the past 48 hours. On twitter as well as here. You haven't, so my attention is far more divided than yours. If you present an argument here I will respond to it. I haven't noticed anything you've previously said.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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Then perhaps you should actually take a break from all this nonsense, read some of those responses instead of responding, and consider the information presented.

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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I actually did that last night. Never saw an argument that directly addressed my own, only sidestepped it to contradict ideas I'd never actually typed. I think two people made the effort, but the thread has been locked by staff.

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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Incidentally, perhaps you should stop lecturing me and stalling. If you've got an argument, present the damn thing or bog off.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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Well I just got off work and am tired as shit so I haven't the energy or the patience to do it this morning. If you do genuinely want me to share the benefit of my education in this discussion, I would be glad to after I've had some sleep; simply express and interest in learning rather than stirring up shit just because you're bored.

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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Given that I'm the inevitable biggest target of any shit I 'stir up', I'm not actually keen on causing massive drama. I want to provoke discussion rather than abuse but no matter what one does, people will still be unreasonable. If you take the time to write something, you have my word I will engage with it.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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Cool, I will address the post on the original image in a note once I've slept. That work?

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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Yeah, take a week if need be, I'm not going anywhere XP.

TheCemmie

6 years, 9 months ago

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I wonder if the watcher count will go down

IBp

6 years, 9 months ago

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I've seen literally 0 harassment, personally.
Maybe taking the piss. I've for sure done that.
But I haven't seen any hateful threats or venomous insults.

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6 years, 9 months ago

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If I can make one statement before this place turns into a shithole for what I said. What's truly the point of all of this!!! Gender is nothing more than a human concept of defining what you are at birth. It's something we use to define what we do for a specific type of person weather it be for medical, social or any other person's preferences even when it come to what people prefer in a romantic partners. That's all this is for people. I
n reality their is no gender it's only what we do to put into a frame of reference. But one thing it can't change is how a person feels and what they like. In short ; IT'S ALL BULLSHIT!!! just don't treat people like asshole when you make a statement otherwise, the point you were trying to make is lost.

Meergoose

6 years, 9 months ago

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A great way for social engineering to gain traction is to make it so that the target populace themselves are defending the campaign that's meant to hurt them in the long run. You'd be surprised how much has actually originated from a think-tank.

Look into depopulation agendas.

moyomongoose

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Meergoose

You sure hit THAT nail square on.
Those kinds of things come around gradually, subtle and with only little notice...Like how the camel begins with putting his nose into the tent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=795sFPU1OVA

EverestDragon

6 years, 9 months ago

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Worth mentioning, this applies to both sides of the ideological spectrum, not one or the other. Acting or reacting vitriolically to anyone who doesn't share your opinion does nothing but make that person look contemptible and disservices their original point, no matter how well researched or popular that point is.

Jimbear

6 years, 9 months ago

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Lolol, there never is a majority of the level-headed in-betweeners in this fucking fandom, is there? xD So, I 100% take your side, but not through crusading. What, do the white knights think they'll earn brownie points and weasel free art outta ya or something by using the same crybully tactics that the SJWs themselves use? 😜

Zarphus

6 years, 9 months ago

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the issue is that your original image and statements made other people feel attacked. so, they fought back the only way they knew how. it snowballed from there.

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Zarphus

Yeah, except feeling attacked by an opinion and actually being attacked are completely different things. Those who attacked me are sickening individuals who behaved appallingly.

Zarphus

6 years, 9 months ago

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so when you feel attacked, youre attacked. but when other people feel attacked, theyre not really attacked.

RoareyRaccoon

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@ Zarphus

When I'm directly singled out as a person and called everything from garbage to a pedophile its obviously EXACTLY the same as someone seeing a cartoon aimed at no individual whatsoever because it expresses a fucking opinion you don't like. Makes sense! Those two things are totally equal. Do you have any idea how PATHETIC it is to say a cartoon ruined you?

BrokenPupper

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Zarphus

Unfortunately true.

TheRealMedley

6 years, 9 months ago

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I've seen more (for lack of a better phrase) "anti-roarey" people attacking those who are either nuetral or agree with you and using emotion based arguments to pretty much belittle them and dehumanize them by making them out to be Nazis (which I don't understand at all how Hitler and Nazis have anything to do with this??) since anyone who agrees/d with you is a neo-nazi hitler spawn devil person who is a transphobic ableist out to destroy the world.

I support what you said but I support it in silence and won't be going around telling people off for what they are going to say or believe because they are going to say and believe it regardless of what I think or do. I am not one to stir the pot or anything like that, you've got enough shit going on you don't need more added to your plate because some outrageous group of extremists want to slap your name on their cause and use you against your will while they wreak havoc on misinformed people they don't agree with.

Also to anyone pitching a bitch fit about blockings and such, get over it. I would rather block 1000+ people than deal with being incessantly bullied for days, there is no good that comes from being around toxic people, there is no good that comes from trying to fight back against a hivemind, there is NO good that comes from not using the wonderful block system. I support Roarey's decision to block those who are doing nothing but spewing poison, and for those who're blocked who keep coming here and replying to those who haven't blocked you yet, please you just look desperate and petty, no one here cares about what you have to say anymore, you're making more enemies than friends. If anyone comes after me I will just simply block them and move on with my life, I have no point to prove and I have no reason not to use the blocking system.

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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Indeed, it's sickening. I know for a fact these scumbuckets are attacking people who support me. As much as it feels like justice to do the same to them, it would mean betraying a principle that is supposed to be important, so I won't do it or advocate it. But those who use bullying tactics to gang up and beat others down are despicable people.

TheRealMedley

6 years, 9 months ago

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Don't sink to their level, keep a calm mind and show the world what maturity can do and how we can advocate the cause without resorting to such tactics like call-outs, lambasting one's business, or trying to drag others through the mud over old issues that hold no flame to the subject at hand. I have been on the ass end of this kind of behavior, the way I dealt with it was to just block them all and take a break for a few months, because the furry-hivemind doesn't like to let things die until "they run someone off the site and feel a sense of accomplisment for 'hurting' someone so bad they don't dare come back". I think it wouldn't be bad of you to take the break if you wanted but if you didn't want to you don't have too. I personally will be commissioning you once I myself get paid so I can support you due to the angry mobs trying to ruin your name with a sociopolitical view you don't hold because it fits their victim-complex mindset.

In the end I am actually envious of you for being able to stick to your guns like this, it is truly amazing.

RoareyRaccoon

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@ TheRealMedley

I'll never sink to their level in one sense, in that I won't seek someone out to attack their character or question their status as a human being. As for always remaining civil and mature, that I'm not gonna manage realistically. I'm a volatile fucker, so when people are dishonest, disingenuous, argue from bad faith and outright insult me, out of the blue, maintaining detached civility is a huge challenge XP. I'm working on it, but I've still a long way to go before I can keep my composure the way someone like, say, Jordan Peterson does.

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Oh by all means you don't have to be civil to those who stupidly waltz into your domain and attack you like a drunken monkey flinging his own shite at people expecting to be treated like the queen of England because they feel they are right using nothing but opinions and emotions instead of * facts, then yes go right ahead and give up on the civility, because respect is a two way street, its is not given it is earned.

DeadAccountLOLXD

6 years, 9 months ago

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Welcome to the SJW , Libtard & Political correct era

EstebanG

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ DeadAccountLOLXD

Or as I call it: we are living in the era of The Princess & the Pea, where people have to actively seek out offenses in order to complain.

SpoonFox

6 years, 9 months ago

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I am the grand neutral spectrum... One of the rares (Extreme middle I think we're called?) I don't agree with your cartoon, but I don't agree in censoring your cartoon, nor do I agree screaming my opinion down your throat will do anything.

I was attacked for expressing my neutrality by a transgender... I tried to give the scientific side of my point of view, they were blind in anger and ignored the fact I only -partly- agreed with them... *SIGH!* What are you gonna do...

You want to fight for a right? Start by learning to fight, people. Sometimes silence is a powerful tool in a war, while screaming will only make you seem weak or insecure...

WELP! Back into the shadows of the fandom~

Sorry this shit happened to ya, man.

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ SpoonFox

Your individual personality traits are not a gender. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm completely serious.

SpoonFox

6 years, 9 months ago

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I agree on that, it's the way you presented it I didn't agree with XD The comedic standpoint makes them go "Are you making our views into a joke?" kinda deal is all

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ SpoonFox

Yeah, I get that, but if joking is bad, fuck being alive.

Joeyboy

6 years, 9 months ago

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Spoiler Alert! This is how it's going to go...

-2015-
"If you federally sanction letting gays marry... then... then... people will marry their dogs next! And then their toasters!"
(Gay marriage is legalized, people actually get to know a gay person... and the world doesn't end)
"Whatever. Who gives a shit? They're happy. It doesn't effect me. Who cares?"

-Flip to 2017-

"Durrrr! I identify as a female! Durr hurr hurr! I identify as a Japanese helicopter!"
(People actually get to know a transgender person... and the world doesn't end)
"Whatever. Who gives a shit? They're happy. It doesn't effect me. Who cares?"

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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This isn't about transgender people. It's about teaching children their genders don't exist or that they're on a spectrum. If you teach all children their genders are on a spectrum when over 95% of all children are either male or female, you're teaching them something untrue about themselves. Accepting trans people is basic human decency, indoctrinating children with false information is basic dangerous as fuck.

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6 years, 9 months ago

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Roarey, there isn't an evil shadow organization out there looking to force or coerce kids into identifying as another sex.
Just as there isn't one trying to convert kids to turn gay or lesbian. The affected child/teen or adult decides for themselves.
I work in health care. Gender dysphoria is a real thing. People go to therapy for it.
You don't just suddenly go cut off your balls and dick because you think you'd look hotter as the female protagonist from your favorite anime show. It's not that simple.

"indoctrinating children with false information is basic dangerous as fuck."

I agree 100%. But first, let's get a bunch of folks together and go blockade a church.

I do wish to know however, what is so dangerous about letting someone choose what gender they would prefer to live as and be identified as?

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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I linked to the teaching material in the original submission, in my previous journal I mentioned the schools in sweden that are teaching kindergarteners that gender doesn't exist. There are medical transitioning procedures being carried out on kids as young as 4 in Australia. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm pointing out that this is spreading. Canada is passing into law Bill C-16, which makes it a criminal offence to use an "incorrect" gender pronoun, which includes all the new genders people are inventing and their coinciding pronouns like zim and zer. So if you refer to someone as "he" when they believe they should be referred to as "xe", you could be fined.

I don't care where you work, I've never said gender dysphoria isn't a real thing so why don't you actually read my argument first before arguing with me? I've had a fuck of a lot of people shoot their gob off at me over the past couple days and I've done my best to divide my attention, so I'm engaging with you, but if you can't even be bothered to look up and read what I actually think before coming to me arguing against shit I've never even asserted, that pisses me off.

Demesejha

6 years, 9 months ago

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Its almost like you don't listen to people and don't care what they have to say, so why should anyone "read what you have to say" when you don't even afford people the most basic concept of decency in return, you reap what you so, you know you're a cunt and you enjoy it.

*shrugs* Sucks to suck my guy.

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Demesejha

I don't have to listen to anybody, especially if they do not listen to me. Just because I draw a cartoon does not mean I am therefore the prisoner of however many people see it, beholden to answer their every whim. Go away.

Joeyboy

6 years, 9 months ago

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https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/qbnamx/no-the-trans-...

Again...
I do wish to know however, what is so dangerous about letting someone choose what gender they would prefer to live as and be identified as?

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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Lies, watch Jordan Peterson's analyses of the bill and the open hearings on the subject, it very clearly does attack free speech. Anyway, I'll answer your question.

Nothing is dangerous about letting people choose their own gender. For society anyway. I don't advocate bigotry. What I object to:

Over 95% of all kids will identify as the gender they are born as, in direct accordance with their biological sex. Do not teach all children that all gender is therefore on a spectrum, because for 95% of kids it never will be. It is false.

Gender is the cultural manifestation of what being male or female is in a given society. It is how each culture views men and women in a general sense. A gender role is not a top-down imposition from on-high in the west, it is a description of an average. When people do not fit into these cultural norms they do not become a new gender construct. It's called individual personality. Each person is an individual with their own personality and characteristics so we all do and are certain things that do conform to our gender role and don't conform to it. The confusion here is that people believe gender roles are some rigid rule and if they find their feelings at odds with these cultural norms, they are therefore a new gender. They're not a new gender, they're a fucking individual human being.

Believing you are a completely different gender is fine, anyone can freely believe whatever they like, it's a free society. What you may not do, however, is expect anyone else to "validate" or accept your definition of yourself. Adults validate themselves, our identities are a negotiation we have with others we interact with. If identity is entirely predicated upon ones own personal feelings, then one could do anything and never be accountable for it, since we could simply identify as being innocent. Feeling something does not make it so. You can believe you are anything you like but I will not accept it on that basis alone. You do you, but don't dare tell me what I have to do or say in response to it. That is my attitude.

Joeyboy

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Where I work, there is a transgender individual we have to deal with on a semi-regular basis. I would like nothing more than if this person dropped off the face of the fucking earth.
He hasn't fully transitioned yet, so he sounds feminine on the phone. He childishly doesn't give his name when he calls, so the rep will inevitably say "ma'am... or Ms...." and this will send them to the fucking moon.
Almost... as if they wanted a fight?
I don't let this color my perception however, because I know that this person is an absolute fucking asshole. My workplace knows that this person is an asshole. The transgender folks I work with know that this person is an asshole.
This person is the exception. Not the rule.
I have known and worked with many transgender people over the past 20 years of my life.
Some are completely wonderful. Some were hot dumpster fires.
I work as a supervisor in a customer service related field. If said obnoxious person wanted me to call them 'Darth'. Guess what I'd have to call them?
99% of the time when I say, "How would you like me to address you?" It works just like magic. Politeness always tends to.

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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I'm not suggesting I don't believe in politeness or its effectiveness to inspire cooperation. I am suggesting it is beyond impolite to demand of strangers a command over what they can and cannot say or to dictate what their view of you should be. Your stories here are about you in a job environment, a healthcare environment. I'm not being paid to be nice to folk who speak to me or treat me like shit.

Joeyboy

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So if a transgender person, after stating their gender incorrectly to them, were to say to you,
"Actually, if you could call me sir... (or madam)"
Your response would be....

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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Depends why they're asking me. If I know them I'd be happy to call them whatever they like. If they act like I've committed an offence by not knowing how they prefer to be addressed, for example, I'd tell them to fuck a lamppost. You asked me questions, I have answered them. You then ignored my responses and asked more questions. You've had all you're getting from me, I've got better things to do. G'night.

Joeyboy

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Nope. Not ignoring. Just reading. :)
Were you hoping to get a rise out of me or something?

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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I was hoping you'd have a response to what I said, to at least give the impression I hadn't just wasted my time entirely. But alas, don't always get what we want.

Epiklesis

6 years, 9 months ago

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It's unfortunate how people have been handling this situation.

I've always been one to enjoy some discourse, but there's a massive difference between "This is what I believe. This is why I believe it." and "Fuck you for not believing what I believe".

I'm not in any way implying that you are from the "Fuck you" faction, but more so that people that both agree and disagree with you are a part of the "Fuck you" crowd.

Instead of thoughtful discussion, people have been in a pissing contest to see who can put down the other side more.

People that are for you and that are against you are definitely guilty of it, some of which I bet have tried to personally attack you about it.

While I'll be leaving my personal opinion of transgenderism in general private, I do say it saddens me to see that for such a mature topic, the vast majority of people on both sides are very immature in how they handle discussing it.

I'm sorry people have been attacking you and the people that support you and also the people that have been starting shit in your name.

It just goes to show that just because people are old enough to be called "adults" damn well don't know how to act like them.

vicwuff

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Epiklesis

But he is expressly from the "fuck you" faction...

Joeyboy

6 years, 9 months ago

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Demesejha

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Epiklesis

Roarey is the "Fuck you Im smart and right and you're dumb" group

Epiklesis

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Demesejha

"	Demesejha wrote:
	Roarey is the "Fuck you Im smart and right and you're dumb" group

I'm not saying he isn't either. But my comment isn't for the focus on him exclusively.

It's more on the people on both sides of the debate.

I assume that most of us in this section are adults, as are a lot of people debating the topic of transgenderism.

But the commentary I made is more to show that just because some people have made it to 18 (or whatever their country/culture considers adulthood) doesn't mean they know how to act like adults.

lazor

6 years, 9 months ago

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*hugs* You're welcome.

nekkofox

6 years, 9 months ago

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I used to be a real firebrand, but then I went to tumblr.

Now I've joined the "Not my monkeys, not my circus" crowd of thinkers.

moyomongoose

6 years, 9 months ago

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I've noticed you disabled the comment section for Political Thought #2.

RoareyRaccoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ moyomongoose

I didn't. Inkbunny staff did. They felt it was too heated so they locked the comments and deleted some they felt were too incendiary. Reminds me, I really should make that clear in the image.

moyomongoose

6 years, 9 months ago

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