Just thinking out loud by Malachyte < Journal | Inkbunny, the Furry Art Community

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LordChaos

6 years, 10 months ago

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And most are lying to themselves.

RokukeShiba

6 years, 10 months ago

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Yah I don't get it, if they don't like what the artist draws then they should ignore it or just don't watch them. XD

Salacious

6 years, 10 months ago

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My "favorite" is when they themselves have equally esoteric fetishes, like somebody saying "blah blah blah pedos" when they have fucking gore art as the majority of their gallery.

AlexanderValentine

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ Salacious

There's just something mildly amusing about that kind of hypocrisy.

Salacious

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ AlexanderValentine

It either makes me burn up internally, or makes me laugh, usually depends on my mood and how it's delivered.

AlexanderValentine

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ Salacious

For me its usually a facepalm, and then I crack up laughing.

Other times, it's just myself shaking my head because they've a history of drama or worse, and I do my best to avoid them... Just for my own piece of mind.

AphroditeDraco

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ AlexanderValentine

And then they claim it's not actually hypocrisy because their gore art is "not encouraging murder or violence against sexual partners." But cub porn somehow does encourage molesting kids? wtf? Do they even logic?

AlexanderValentine

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ AphroditeDraco

I usually get a little shit for this, but...

Furries.

I hate to sum it up like that sometimes, but sometimes a brutal honesty is the better course of action.

MystBunny

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ AlexanderValentine

It's certainly not a behavior limited to furries. We see all the time people claiming others are engaging in immoral behavior and white-knighting against that because it's easier than admitting their own "immorality". Any time something of their own behavior comes into question, they need to believe someone is worse than them because looking inward is too hard for them. They might discover that they're assholes and who actually wants to make that discovery?

AlexanderValentine

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ MystBunny

Truth. I was mainly pointing the statement towards Logic... Furries usually don't make great calls of judgement, myself included.

I know I'm an asshole unfortunately, but I do my best to make up for it and be as kind as possible in the fandom... Although I have my issues still, some old habits I need to nip in the bud. While I know there are those who won't admit their faults so readily, I'm always afraid I'm going to offend someone just being myself.

Pretty sure I have, too.

AphroditeDraco

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ AlexanderValentine

Yeah, I hear you.

Ironically, I'm probably the only cub porn artist I've ever known who hasn't gotten called a pedo or some other such BS for my cub porn.  I've gotten plenty of flak for my guro art, though.

And I did get called a pedo once for a non-cub pic.  How that even works is beyond me.  It sure as hell ain't logical.

moyomongoose

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ AphroditeDraco

Their logic is like an answer a NASA artificial intelligence computer gave in response to a question;

Question:
Here we have two watches. Watch #1 will always run five minutes slow regardless what you do...Watch #2 is completely broken and is stopped at 3:27...Which watch is more valuable?

Answer:
Watch #2, because it is correct twice a day. Watch #1 is never correct.

AphroditeDraco

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ moyomongoose

LOL, don't you just love that kind of "logic?"

GageWilliamCreed

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ Salacious

Yeah, or like the pee ponies that hate the poo rabbits, or the plush humper fox's that hate the diaper humper rhinos.

TheRealMedley

6 years, 10 months ago

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Take the "Don't like, don't look" stance on things. That is what I did, I have my personal opinions about things and stuff that I now keep to myself in my own little echo chamber and don't bring it out into the open anymore. Go ahead and look you won't see anymore toxicity from me unless you're a friend.

Either way, sorry if I ever seemed like that kind of person to you, you're 100% right fantasy =/= reality.

AlexanderValentine

6 years, 10 months ago

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Some people really just never learned an important bit of advice growing up, or didn't listen. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

Honestly... I don't go seeking artists/fetishes I don't like and write derogatory comments on their submissions. Even I don't feel fully proper saying this, but a good chunk of the current fandom needs a swift kick in the ass.

moyomongoose

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ AlexanderValentine

All it took was one troll pointing out a problem in real life and blaming something that had nothing to do with it.
Saying, "See see seeeeeeeeee? Lookie see see. See what it caused?".
Then all the pinheads out there who believe it all pick it up and run with it like Arctic lemmings taking to the cliffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMZlr5Gf9yY beginning at footage 1:30.

...Or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDQw21ntR64

Zealots do that with just about anything. It's kind of like outlawing firecrackers because 911 happened.

AlexanderValentine

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ moyomongoose

Yeah, I know that all too well. Won't point out names, but I had that happen in a bit of drama recently. Person said this, people said that, shit got a little hectic. And fairly sure there's a few furs out there who think I'm the devil incarnate now.

If someone's having a bad spot, I usually offer a sort of comfort without taking sides; mainly because I know I'm not fully sure what happened. I do get curious, and I check around to see what's going on... But I never judge anyone based on conjecture.

Hope I never do, either. Cause I wanna be able to meet new people and chat with em.

GavinAlvarez

6 years, 10 months ago

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When it comes to cub art and the like, a lot of people refuse to realize that theres a hard border between fantasy and reality. Especially with the inherent comparison to real world child porn, which in my opinion is comparing apples to oranges. Art is a safe form of expression, child porn is a horrible crime. The two are not the same.

It makes some people feel superior about their own demented minds if they can put down others and the "pedo art" they so viciously hate is an easy scapegoat. Its best to just ignore said people and know they're only doing it to justify their own insecurities.

moyomongoose

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ GavinAlvarez

Well said.
Those people who can't see the border lines are like the plastered drunk in the ally who tells someone with a cone of vanilla ice cream, "What do you mean drunk?...Did you know the vanilla extract in that vanilla ice cream you're eating has traces of alcohol in it?...An you callin' ME a drunk?"

Niara

6 years, 10 months ago

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It's really unfortunate behaviour... It's upsetting that so many people out there feel the need to draw lines between one specific sub-genre and real life, yet usually nothing else at all. It's just baffling, but it harms real artists - real people - which is worse than can be said about the art they're decrying.

Hope you yourself haven't been on the receiving end of any of that kind of defamation, Mal!

misterpickleman

6 years, 10 months ago

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"I meant PEDAL! I don't draw PEDAL art. Bicycles are filthy!"

JunkBox

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ misterpickleman

I'll never understand that flower fetish... petal-philes.

moyomongoose

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ JunkBox

I better stop drawing torpedoes. Might blow up somebody.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c--fP017Xoc

Balmung

6 years, 10 months ago

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Well said.

CyberT

6 years, 10 months ago

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The problem is more complex than that. Unfortunately a large part of that problem is subjective. For many people, the drawings/art the artists makes depicts the type of person they are; or the type of person they are capable of being. No matter the intent, the product can be taken out of context as pedo or gateway to pedo.

This concept exists for other types of art people create too. People looking into it for the first time will always make assumptions on the artist's perspective. This has been, and pretty much always will be the way people look at art like this.

RMoD

6 years, 10 months ago

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Saw that recently. Someone was criticizing Piczel because it allowed "loli" and despite never having used the site before, had to tell everyone that anyone using it was a pedo. Furries indeed.

moyomongoose

6 years, 10 months ago

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@ RMoD

It's like I mentioned to another artist...
Those people who can't see the border lines are like the plastered drunk in the ally who tells someone with a cone of vanilla ice cream, "What do you mean drunk?...Did you know the vanilla extract in that vanilla ice cream you're eating has traces of alcohol in it?...An you callin' ME a drunk?"

PsyChuan

6 years, 10 months ago

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Ceci n'est pas une child.

Ketsa

6 years, 10 months ago

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Up-voting this journal in spirit~

moyomongoose

6 years, 10 months ago

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As much as FA forbids cub porn, you can find artwork on FA of humans and animals (some animals not anthro) screwing together.

moyomongoose

6 years, 10 months ago

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When I did these postings, they were meant to elude to a world that dies out when it is without cubs, and directed to the anti-cub crowd;

A 34+ Hour Day on the World of the Barren Womb by moyomongoose

A 34+ Hour Day on the World of the Barren Womb [Page 3] by moyomongoose

Gas Cloud Explosion on the World of the Barren Womb by moyomongoose

MviluUatusun

6 years, 10 months ago

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If I don't like something an artist draws, I don't look at it. If that is all that particular artist draws, I don't follow them. I don't judge them other than what I do, or don't, like.

VileFiend

6 years, 10 months ago

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It's funny coming from a community that's often accused of bestiality for sexualizing anthropomorphized animal characters.

moyomongoose

6 years, 10 months ago

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The trolls leave no doubt how overboard they are in the fact, not only do they oppose cub rape, cub incest, cub sex, cub water sports, cubs frotting and so on...Even cubs drawn with their genital details intact in innocent situations are opposed by those trolls.

It's like they are sending the signal that sez, "If you draw a cub, he or she better be a castrated cub".

The pic below is my idea of what a castrated being is suppose to be.

Reckless Angel - Revised Edition by moyomongoose

Of course, knowing the trolls, they probably would suggest that everyone draw Angelic beings.

Troll crashing on a scooter;

CaptainCrazy

6 years, 10 months ago

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Pedophile does not actually have a bad meaning attached to it. Pedophilia is just an attraction to underaged folks. Child molesters/rapists are when it becomes a bad thing, but the fetish itself isn't bad. As a zoophile I often remind myself that zoophilia isn't the big issue, bestiality is. Funny how they try to weaponize those words anyways.

moyomongoose

6 years, 10 months ago

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I posted a funny journal some while back showing how ridiculous it could get;
https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=219368

jhonbob

6 years, 10 months ago

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I agree. The amount of kink shaming that goes on in this of all fandoms is ridiculous.

moyomongoose

6 years, 10 months ago

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I've just thought of another irony to this issue...
...If I were a gambler, I would be willing to bet $100 that most all of those zealot trolls who demonize cub porn thinks it's OK to go hacking foreskins off of baby boys.

doe

6 years, 10 months ago

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Bless you for this journal, Malachyte. Respect [+10]

LeLoup

6 years, 10 months ago

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Agreed completely. People need to learn not make such black and white generalizations. Its like saying all furry porn artists are into bestiality. Fucking stupid.

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