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Wolfblade

Welp.

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https://imgur.com/a/ctIe40j

The staff didn't take down the journal of someone asking for and receiving RL bestiality pics and vids until I made a public journal about it.

They didn't take down the account posting linework obviously traced from RL photo CP until I made a public journal about it.

Let's see if they think maybe this shit crosses a line - after some number of other people agree with shock and horror at the fact that they DIDN'T think that simply upon first seeing it.

AGAIN.

And if anyone wonders why I'm not more active here for positive things - maybe that could change if the site someday starts NOT finding this kind of crap totally acceptable.

EDIT:

The post by this user which the staff feels exonerates him merely confirms that this is NOT expression of pure fantasy divorced from rl desire, but he does flippantly assure us his actual honest voiced thoughts about rl human children are not something he'll act on.

https://imgur.com/a/SrpgSSq

Most of us know that we get shit on for fiction because people who don't get the difference between fiction and reality think that HAVING a thought means desiring the reality.

This guy IS what people are afraid of, and the staff being unable to see the line that is obvious to most of us IS why people have had less and less ability to believe that this doesn't represent everyone who touches taboo subjects at all.

UPDATE:

Despite me only ever being motivated by having my own personal way be granted, apparently, the issue with these journals that the staff could not see until many other people reacted in a way that most of us would really love to be able to just safely assume anyone would react - has apparently motivated the staff to remove some of these journals.

I'm sure somehow the tactic of making a public journal to get them to stop defending something like this only after they refused to take action to private and proper reports by others is still somehow totally invalid and wrong simply because I myself didn't assume that my report would be any less ignored.

Yes I am being a snarky pissy bitch about it, but show me the lie.
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Rhuke
Rhuke
4 years, 10 months ago
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That's just straight up fucking disgusting
NikolaiTheWolfdog
NikolaiTheWolfdog
4 years, 10 months ago
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I think I just vomited in my mouth a little. The fact that someone like him can be switched to a position where he had live out all his sick fantasies makes me weep for humanity.
MooseJam
MooseJam
4 years, 10 months ago
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WTF, man.  
TravisTRetriever
TravisTRetriever
4 years, 10 months ago
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I think I just vomited in my mouth reading those.  I'm glad I'm not a drinker, because between the time I read those and the time it took me to type this out, I'd have downed at least 2 bottles of whiskey by now, without a chaser.
TravisTRetriever
TravisTRetriever
4 years, 10 months ago
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Regarding that last line, sadly, as much as I did try to like this site back in the day, it's...kinda turning to shit.

Not just with stuff like what you've pointed out here, but...well, I think I'll just let these journals, and the resulting comments speak for themselves:
https://inkbunny.net/j/399370-RoareyRaccoon-inexcusable
https://inkbunny.net/j/399408-RoareyRaccoon-ah-sod-it-
https://inkbunny.net/j/399416-RoareyRaccoon-okay-fine-c...

Especially that 1st one.
Spoken/posted as someone who can take or leave RoareyRaccoon.
TravisTRetriever
TravisTRetriever
4 years, 10 months ago
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Derp.  It looks like you beat me to it, judging by the timestamps.  But yeah.  It's times like this I'm glad I never donated a single red cent to them (Or to FA for that matter).
EvanSKVRL
EvanSKVRL
4 years, 10 months ago
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That is revolting and I feel physically ill having read it... That's the kind of person that needs to be locked up.
XeX
XeX
4 years, 10 months ago
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holy f....


that's......beyond disturbing....


Like legit threat to public safety disturbing...
Kalibran
Kalibran
4 years, 10 months ago
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They’ve been dropping a lot of balls lately.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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Edited 4 years, 10 months ago by Owner
My consistent experience with them at every single point of something like this, from the very beginning - when I was one of their biggest friends and supporters, and brought this shit up to them directly BECAUSE I wanted to see them succeed and genuinely believed these things were honest mistakes or just bad judgment - is that they've yet to NOT drop this specific kind of ball, in this kind of circumstance. This stuff always flies until a public stink happens.

I'd make the public stink not because I hated them or wished them bad, but because I started off as a friend and wanted them to NOT fall down that sort of hole, and believed they were just not thinking about what it seemed to imply when they failed to recognize the right decision in these kinds of decision moments.

I no longer believe they're just honestly dumb and not realizing what it looks like when they consistently fall on the wrong side of these fences. Haven't for a long time.
AzureMarsupial
AzureMarsupial
4 years, 10 months ago
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I have had a ticket up for literal months over someone taking and modding Tropicana's clean cub art and modding it for porn, which is -really- frustrating her. : / The both of us have been posting tickets and getting no reply.

Your example is even -worse-. I'm getting pretty frustrated with the lack of this site actually -doing- anything.
HannibalAzul
HannibalAzul
4 years, 10 months ago
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Honestly DMCA the site and they'll have to act or risk a lawsuit. Haha.
DjijeyHellfire
DjijeyHellfire
4 years, 10 months ago
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Sometimes it feels like they've stopped moderating the site, aka, doing their jobs

Honestly feel they should get more people on as moderators to take care of this shit
EvanSKVRL
EvanSKVRL
4 years, 10 months ago
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Honestly, considering I have open tickets from over a year ago now, along with this, I may be done with this site soon. I still maintain it's the best site in terms of UI, uploader, block list, etc., but the absolute failure of mods to do their jobs and allowing things like this to go on is just inexcusable.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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They like to downplay my involvement or contribution, but the block list was also something I had to fight hard to get Jery to not just throw out when the FA cub ban happened.

The flood of angry cubs exiled from FA had a good chunk of people openly bragging that they were intentionally NOT tagging their work to make the site inhospitable for anyone who would want to block cub. Jery wanted to just make tagging entirely optional just to not have to do anything about that. I had to push HARD to get him to keep tags mandatory. He couldn't get how the block system is useless if tags are optional.

Sadly, no amount of pushing on my part could stop them from still siding with the intentionally-antagonistic cubs and many people who only gave the site a shot because of assurances that the block system would keep cub off their plate - many assured of that by me personally - were told by staff "if it bothers you so much, your needs may be better served elsewhere."

Could just be I misinterpreted Jery's assurances of them not just wanting to be JUST a cub site. When I asked him right out "are you making a site just for cubs, or for everyone" and he said "I want to make a site for everyone," I must have just been too full of myself or something to interpret that correctly.
lurker852
lurker852
4 years, 10 months ago
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It still pisses me off that people refuse to tag stuff just so that it slips past blocklists so they can "try and connect to new, potential fans."

Like no... that's not how you build a fanbase, that's how you tank a platform.  I hate how this false dichotomy has been created.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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I gave them good ideas and sound principles to launch under - and they've demonstrated they never understood half of it, and just let people they favor do as they will.

The detractors said they'd never make anything but a haven for pedos.

I tried to help them see what they had to do to NOT validate that claim. It was a fight every time, and I've learned from the experience of being so wrong and so foolish to not just see the detractors were right.

Now kadm's pointing to my old alt account where I drew the hard stuff like it's the same thing. It was always an open secret I never denied, I just sorted the extreme stuff to a separate sona to be considerate to my main audience.

They can't tell the difference between what is and isn't okay, what is and isn't simply fantasy, so they defend shit that gets this kind of reaction when people become aware of it - and don't understand how it's different from the fake-ass fiction crap that people don't give a shit about.
lurker852
lurker852
4 years, 10 months ago
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God yeah I know what that's like.  Everyone's past is there to haunt them forever no matter what they do or how separate it is from their public persona.

Though an alt account with extreme stuff sounds interesting.  I'd love to see it if you still have it up and if you're willing to share it.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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Looks like I cleared both of them at some point. I thought I'd left the stuff here.

There's probably fucktons of it on e621 or whatever people use to post stuff that isn't theirs these days. XD

"kuma-kun" was the alt handle. But I started using that before the pedobear meme happened. That was unfortunate and annoying coincidence. 9_9
lurker852
lurker852
4 years, 10 months ago
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lmao well I'll have to look around for it~
Hammytoy
Hammytoy
4 years, 10 months ago
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I need to stop reading about things like this
Chatin
Chatin
4 years, 10 months ago
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Nothing surprises me in this community anymore. Everyone that runs it is full of themselves and do whatever they want.
Dracostar
Dracostar
4 years, 10 months ago
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THis is all kinds of fucked up x_x
RollerCoasterViper59
RollerCoasterViper59
4 years, 10 months ago
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This
MistahToonCatUwU
MistahToonCatUwU
4 years, 10 months ago
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inkbunny's staff is no longer amongst us

kinda wanna see if someone will make a new place for us
TravisTRetriever
TravisTRetriever
4 years, 10 months ago
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I mean, a fair chunk of the furry fandom has long jumped ship from FA to Twitter.  I'm still waiting for Twitter to ban adult content like Tumblr did.  Which I later learned was because some awful PoS posted actual child porn there.  Given the huge number of MAPs ("Minor Attracted Persons"--read: the PC term for pedophiles) on Twitter, I'd say it's only a matter of time before the hammer finally comes down there too.

And of course, I'm told by folks here and elsewhere that both Patreon and Paypal are both continuing to put the screws on furry content creators of all types.

Given that FA, and IB and well, let's be honest here, pretty much all furry art gallery sites always so horribly run and managed, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there is no alternative or new sites for furry porn artists or for their customers.  Let alone those who make and/or like cub stuff.
That said, one possible alternative I've heard is actually Newgrounds of all places.

As for payment processors, I'm surprised more furries, given how tech savvy we are as a group, haven't just gone into crypto-currency in lieu of paypal and banks, tbh.
RIPInkbunny
RIPInkbunny
4 years, 10 months ago
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I'd love a site that is basically Inkbunny but better, but it's hard to manage a site like that as furries generally REALLY dislike cub artists and the only sites cub artists can go to at this point is e621 and Twitter, both absolute hellholes.
Reyedog
Reyedog
4 years, 10 months ago
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What the Fuckity fuck did I just read. That is goddamn gross.  I know I Used to draw some odd things here & there  But I never took it to reality or like that to the extreme.  Hell No.    If that shit is still here I am the fuck out of here. Cause Nope.  Just a big fat goddamn huge Nope.            

And people wonder why I only look at things & shut the hell up on here these days.  

I can't support this place anymore.
Epsilion
Epsilion
4 years, 10 months ago
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While the contents of these journals are indeed terrible (and nothing of value would be lost by them being removed), it's interesting how this journal completely flies in the face of the last journal you made, almost 3 years ago.

" Freedom of speech is meaningless if there is no protection of speech that people disapprove of. If nobody has a problem with what is being said, there's nothing to protect.


" This is not about defending, agreeing with, endorsing, or condoning anything that any one user expresses as their beliefs or opinions. It's about the fact that you either defend all speech, or you participate in the behaviors that CAUSE the rise of far more dangerous methodologies and ideologies than the trivial shit going on with a simple furry website.


A lot really changes in that time, eh?
Furryluv19
Furryluv19
4 years, 10 months ago
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The problem with your state,met is that the person is speaking as if their thinking about doing this irl. That isn't free speech. That is warning signs that this user needs to be put away and get help. It's not free speech if it infringes upon the rights of others and these posts duo just that, and to the rights of minors no less. I'm sorry if you disagree but this kind of stuff is what gives our fandom a bad name and it gives this site a bad name.
Epsilion
Epsilion
4 years, 10 months ago
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It's not about whether or not it's disturbing, or "a sign"

This falls under that free speech that he was so adamant about in his previous journal. The only difference is, now it's not so agreeable. It also doesn't help that they're not his friend this time.
Furryluv19
Furryluv19
4 years, 10 months ago
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I'll just say agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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Your lack of understanding the concept isn't hypocrisy on my part.

Freedom of speech doesn't cover "I am going to murder someone, and since I have put that into speech, you are prohibited from taking action."

Voicing opinions and views, arguing over topics, using profanity or insulting language - none of that is simply voicing desire to commit crime, harm, or evil shit. Creating fiction of a fantasy is not the same as simply honestly musing about evil shit in reality. People who do not innately grasp that VERY clear and stark line - are the people for whom concern is most warranted.

If you don't understand the difference, that's fine, the staff clearly doesn't either, but that's your problem to sort out.
Epsilion
Epsilion
4 years, 10 months ago
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Nope, I understand it perfectly fine :3

As [iconname]Kadm[/iconname] mentions, the person who wrote those journals claimed them to be works of fiction, making it no different than any other snuff/rape/gore image or story - you are just trying to use a lack of context, along with your status, to target someone whom you dislike. Claiming ignorance over context, as you did in a reply to Kadm, stopped being a valid defense the moment you posted a public callout.

 If anything, it shows that this wasn't about facts, or the "safety" of anyone - you couldn't be bothered to do a few moments of research before rushing to tell everyone how evil this person was, when it turns out, the content he posted is of equivalent status to the art you have drawn yourself, on your alt.
Unless you think we should go back and look into your snuff art, and try to construe it as an expression of a desire to commit a willful act of violence? That seems to be consistent with what you're calling for.

And like it or not, that is covered by the unlimited free speech that you so desired.
" Freedom of speech is meaningless if there is no protection of speech that people disapprove of. If nobody has a problem with what is being said, there's nothing to protect.

The issue is that now you're on the other side of the argument. It's not so easy to defend something that you disapprove of.

This is all about you - Don't try and turn it around on the people who are capable of looking through the façade you've put up.
You have no investment in Inkbunny.
You just wanted to start an argument.
An argument that wasn't easily defensible due to the "jump on the bandwagon" nature of cancel culture. Perhaps if you dislike the site so much (and it doesn't appear that you use it much), and think that the moderation team is such garbage, you would be better of somewhere with more of the particular brand of freedom that you so desire. Maybe FurAffinity would fit the bill?

It's very saddening to see where you've ended up.
Folsen
Folsen
4 years, 10 months ago
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What organs of justice would take upon investigating something like this? And if it really is tough that this person could be a danger wouldn't the best idea to appellate to one of these organs or even to any organization that can investigate this specific type of stuff?
ShanetheFreestyler
ShanetheFreestyler
4 years, 10 months ago
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I think I feel physically sick now...
whitepawrolls
whitepawrolls
4 years, 10 months ago
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It's not doing things about stuff like this that will get IB closed. I hope they get off their rears soon and start doing something about it, but from my own experience on posting tickets about stuff against the rules going unanswered I don't see that happening.
CHUBBYCOON
CHUBBYCOON
4 years, 10 months ago
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well....at least admins eventually care and do something....GOOD LUCK MANAGING TO MAKE ANY F.A. ADMIN DO A DAMN THING EVER....  i just got messages from a chinese girl offering webcam porn sessions, i think these sites are being attacked by either hackers, or maybe chinese "ghost companies" trying to get access to our data. yes...i know it sounds tinfoil hat levels of crazy, but it is happening. those mobile games like raid shadow legends or whatever, are nothing but bait so they can access your data. that's why they are ffe, cus their real business, is selling the data they get from your phones....but, anyway.

hackers are imbeciles. and....honestly? i still have a lot of respect for admins here, again, this is the most artist friendly site. try to post an entire comic issue on fur affinity without using many hacker skill points....or try to get them answer any complaint from you, they only listen to hate mail and false accusations, or they just ban you without warning because you borke their very grey and undefined rules.

yes, i am still on fur affinity, cus most of my customers are there. that's frankly the only reason.

also....bestiality content....sounds like a moronic hater trying to piss us off, maybe a follower of the nostalgia critic, spoony, saberspark or any other furry hater out there.... :)
Weiss
Weiss
4 years, 10 months ago
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Doug Walker a furry hater? If that was really a thing don't you think Malcolm, a KNOWN FURRY would have stopped working with him by now? Yeah you definitely sound like one of those nutjobs that have a conspiracy theory about everything and everyone. Also way to jump on the hate bandwagon for RSL. Do you have PROOF that game is stealing people's data? Cause without proof you just sound absolutely insane
CHUBBYCOON
CHUBBYCOON
4 years, 10 months ago
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doug walker has made it clear he hates furry community (remember his lola bunny jokes?) come on.  and....seriously. are you trying to defend walker? after the miserable things he did on channel awesome? really? those are not "conspiracy" rumors, those are facts, he was a colossal douchebag. a terrible person to his staff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvedKSaHCBQ  more about your hero, doug walker.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/over-1000-android-apps-were...   here's more info....sorry if the source aint "liberal" enough....or maybe it is....that bs about left or right in media has never been mu cup of tea.

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/08/hackers-use-fake-mobile...   it is known that chinese hackers (or corporations, not sure on that) have made a very big business on selling private data to other companies by straling it from users via games downloads. again, check this out. it iiappening, you like the game? good for you, but....check the links.

and...malcolm....i think you mean saberspark. not sure....the least i wanna know is the real name of those "celebrities". if you mean saberspark. yeah, he has made it very clear that he does not like furries, his video about EL ARCA. is nothing but a rant on him hating adult content furry arts, and those who draw it. HE HAS ALL THE RIGHT TO NOT LIKE ADULT FURRY ART, T'S NOT MY POINT. but....use his channel to mock and showcase the entire community as weirdos....yeah, he has done that. he can say he is a furry....i can say i work with nasa, that doesn't mean i do work with nasa, right?

and, calling me nutjob just cus i offend a youtuber you like? thanks for proving my point about fanbases.

hatewagon for rsl....ARE YOU KIDDING ME? i dont even care about the game, yes, it is a pain in the ass how agressively they are buying youtubers, the game is way overpraised, YOU LIKE IT? COOL. GOOD FOR YOU. but....hatewagon? gimme a break, pal. seriously....wtf?

malcolm a known furry.....lol....WOLFBLADE IS A KNOWN FURRY, malcolm (again, if you mean saberspark) is just another youtuber who thinks he owns the absolute truth about movies just because he has a channel. if you like that. cool. your right. i do respect that. and i wont call you a nutjob for liking it. i dont do that, cus....adult me am :)

c ya around.
rick2tails
rick2tails
4 years, 10 months ago
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Saberspark doesnt hate furries. He has atended mlp  conventions and has openly talked about how much he likes anthro content in animated movies and shows especially the ponies. He makes jokes about himself often as a furry for humor on the youtube channel.But I`ve never seen him saying furries are sick or bad people or that they should go away or anything. At most he just jokes about the mild weirdness being attracted to cartoon animal people is.And it is.It is weird but its harmless and if anyone truly has a problem with that then theyre a sad person.But you cant be so sensative that someone making some mild jokes about adult themed  anthro content is someone who hates furries
VinMcGrey
VinMcGrey
4 years, 10 months ago
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Good fucking lord . . .
StarChildebrite
StarChildebrite
4 years, 10 months ago
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1. These are journals, not story submissions. They should be taken into account as somebody having these gory fantasies about real children.  Which is just... disturbing... to say the least.

2. Even if these are / were fictional submissions, they are talking about human children. Last I checked, sexual depictions of any human-like being are banned from this site.

I cannot say much about thought crimes and all that, but I don't feel comfortable about somebody openly stating such violent fantasies about real children on a site that's supposed to be enforcing fantasy.  The person who made those journals?  I just hope they don't enact their fantasies onto an actual person or animal - ever.  That's all I can hope for.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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Seems pretty clear and obvious, right?
StarChildebrite
StarChildebrite
4 years, 10 months ago
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Yeah, really does.
BogdanUrs
BogdanUrs
4 years, 10 months ago
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I don't really know what to make of this. There's a difference between saying "here's a list of people I want to kill" and "here's a list of people I'm going to kill". I don't know which category this falls into.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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The problem is more about, haters think anyone who draws or writes fiction of this sort is masturbating to actual rl children and imagining actually doing harm to real live human kids.

Here's someone who clearly actually is that.

And here's the leading site for this content going "Yeah, we see no difference between these two things, either - they're both the same, and we think both are okay."

Hence the dramatic increase of intolerance of any fucked up fiction and anyone touching it, because detractors deny that anyone can tell the difference between fantasy and reality - and IB's staff demonstrate that's not inaccurate in their case.
BogdanUrs
BogdanUrs
4 years, 10 months ago
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I hear what you're saying, but let's get back to that later. There's something I forgot to ask you earlier. Did this individual say anything like "I'm going to do XYZ" or "I have done XYZ", or "I want you to do XYZ"?
Kapricus
Kapricus
4 years, 10 months ago
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It's unfortunate we do not have an alternative site to go to. I'm not allowed on FA because my goat looked too young even outside of cub stature. I've only been sharing new pieces around on Telegram.

It's sad that the moderators and the Inkbunny users that agree with the moderators either ignore or have me blocked on Telegram and warn people I have art with a "problematic" individual. Oh well, I very rarely use this website anyway. My goal at the very beginning was engage in the community here and meet new people, but I just cannot be bothered to try that anymore.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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Wow, I'm surprised at that. I didn't know you'd been semi-cancelled by these people, too. I've seen you in a few groups we're both in, and I rarely speak up just to avoid being blamed for starting anything if people see me and decide to blast me for the myriad blasphemies I make against the current religion that seems to have stuck really deeply into this site's circles.

I'm still trying to work out the psychological mechanics of how the most puritanical and least-tolerant ideology seems to find such successful purchase in people who will always be the FIRST group to be thrown onto the purity-purge fires. >_<

The leading theory is that it's simply both being a product of stunted or impeded mental maturation, and I'm overthinking it by trying to resolve the logic conflict that the relevant people just aren't able to be aware of.

All that aside; I'm friendly on telegram, if you're interested. <:3
xtchizobr
xtchizobr
4 years, 7 months ago
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Any chance I get both of your Telegrams? I've been such a fan of yours, Wolfblade, for years and years (new Mad Science version when?!) and I just can't bear the thought of losing track of you.
ezalias
ezalias
4 years, 10 months ago
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Same deal with FurAffinity and Nazis.

I get it: moderation is hard. But having rigid constraints "to simplify things" only makes it harder, if they limit what moderators can do. This website is not a government. The assholes can't vote you out or take you to court. Be willing to say "fuck that" when confronted with something intolerable.

Mods - you have to let yourselves use your brains. The rules as written are guidelines. If you see terrible shit from terrible people, just get rid of it, and let them bitch about it. The bitching is fine. The bitching cannot hurt you. You could get rid of it anyway. The entire point is - it's up to you. Only you determine what's on your website. Be responsible for it. Be proud of hosting the niche fetish art that you personally don't want to look at. Be fucking vicious about real-world fascists and pedophiles. Make life better for harmless weirdos.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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That's the crux of it.

By the staff of the leading site for allowing this content demonstrating they can't tell the difference between rl pedos and harmless weirdos - that reinforces and validates the people who insist there's no distinction at all.

IB has made life worse for the harmless weirdos by defending the actual people who cause concern - and acting like we're all the same thing.
SilkySmoothChihuahua27
SilkySmoothChihuahua27
4 years, 10 months ago
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Jesus Christ, that's awful. So terrible!


Well, time to contemplate leaving here again.
MistahToonCatUwU
MistahToonCatUwU
4 years, 10 months ago
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why doesnt inkbunny have new mods? no one bothers to help anyone anymore with support tickets, let alone people who just openly race bait and be politically violent on a cub porn web site

honestly i hope more larger artsits here say something to force Mods here to act, theyre too behind the scenes and not transparent enough, because my patience is wearing thin despite being friends with someone ontop
MistahToonCatUwU
MistahToonCatUwU
4 years, 10 months ago
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like please greenreaper, kadm, salmy or whoever the fuck runs this site and is Dragoneer's equivalent

run this shit back up, slowly starting to not want to be associated with this site despite almost being here for 10 years and meeting awesome friends here

no more "we're backed up, we're working on improving the net code or whatever shit it is", work on the community itself becasue at the end of the day, a barely used site with bells and whistles is a waste of money and effort if you dont have a good community traffic
TwoTails
TwoTails
4 years, 10 months ago
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@Kadm just said they're wary of adding mods because they don't know anyone well enough to trust them with site controls and messages access.
But that's missing the point, those wouldn't be needed to flag priority problems. I've seen other sites add limited janitor positions thats purpose is to simply flag stuff for removal or error fixing & such. And probably in a way that makes serious problems more visible to mods rather than having to wade through lots of less important or echoed support tickets to notice.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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Kadm's already defended those journals with "I think those are just someone voicing fantasy" and then trying to equate them to my old alt-hard art account that's never been any kind of secret.

So he clearly doesn't see the distinction between fictional art and someone just idle musing about reality.

Which is a good cause for alarm and concern.
MistahToonCatUwU
MistahToonCatUwU
4 years, 10 months ago
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ehhhhhhhhh, i dunno man

the fact you come out of nowhere with pierce only becasue roarey left ib is kinda suspicious on what exactly your actions are
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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Fair point. The two aren't directly related, and only serve as a reference for what they'll be pro-active in shutting down, vs what they'll sit and permit no matter what complaints or objections are made.

I haven't paid attention to the noise here for a long time. Roarey being harassed again is what brought my attention back here. Came to just remark on that, probably a passing comment or two, and that would have been it.

Then I saw those journals, and yeah - got triggered. The site defended and preserving that sort of shit is just the sort of shit that was at the root of MOST of the worst, most enraging fights I had with them, and what caused me to leave.

They're still doing the same shit.

Because I was an idiot to have ever believed what I thought when I was a defender and ally to them.
frogstune
frogstune
4 years, 10 months ago
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This is exactly what came to mind with me, and I think others are connecting the dots too, as TravisTRetriever pointed out in his 2nd comment thread.  The link in this journal was used at least 4 minutes before this journal was made, on Roarey's Journal.  Meaning he was invested in what was happening with Roarey, before he had any "concern" for this scapegoat "pedo" that he is trying to make the "hot topic".  His 1st link shows that this was going on for few months, and the 2nd link shows a "response" journal from a few minutes prior.  So I'd like to think that he simply came across this guy in a mad scramble to dig up something quick to use against IB admins, because otherwise, he'd have known before hand and withheld the information until he could use it at his convenience.  The later would suggest hypocrisy, as if he actually had any concern for what this guy wrote, then he would have done something about it then.  I'm curious as to how he came across this information in the first place, and when.  Why he did it seems pretty clear.
RIPInkbunny
RIPInkbunny
4 years, 10 months ago
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I feel like that person needs to be locked up in a mental hospital. e3e
stormlust
stormlust
4 years, 10 months ago
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get the guy to admit to this else where and call the law on his ass he prob has stuff like that on his pc
RIPInkbunny
RIPInkbunny
4 years, 10 months ago
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According to other posts in this thread, he does have child pornography on his computer, so, honestly, he needs to be arrested before he goes and hurts a child.
SkyPuppeh
SkyPuppeh
4 years, 10 months ago
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Thats being disgusting what has this world come to
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BrokenPupper
BrokenPupper
4 years, 10 months ago
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If I gotta be completely honest, I'm more on what Epsilon said here. I get that this sound awful but, aside the possibility that the person posting this could be trolling this site for all we know (as you are aware of well known trolls in this website), there's also this feeling of inconsistency of what is considered worth being concerned about.

For many years there have been people that have wanting to do shit to actual kids and some are even adamant enough to put stuff like "non/pro contact minor-attracted person in their own profile while others admit of being so long before Inkbunny even existed. Yet now it has to be taken seriously? Now we have to care about what is morally acceptable in this site?

The fact that you can't even show the member's name but gotta subjugate your whole fanbase with something that sounds serious is really telling too. Because sure gotta take your word for it but we can't figure out who this is otherwise the mods that are apparently 100% inept are also capable of automatically erasing this journal for callouts or whatever excuse we have to not see clear evidence that this even exists.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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I didn't take the screenshots, just linking them.

If I pointed the user's name out, that WOULD be breaking some rule they'd slap me for, I'm sure. The user's account is known to them, so it does not need to have users aimed at it. The purpose is not to direct the public to go bomb this person, but to simply give the staff a look at what a general reaction from their userbase to seeing this sort of thing would be. If that does or does not prompt a course change from them - they can do that without the public needing to see the username.

If people think I just made it all up or photoshopped this out of my ass or something, well, it's simple enough to just disregard someone you think would do that.

The reason this is a point of issue is because a site that is going out of its way to harass a user who just uses profanity and hostility in response to people attacking him over shit that is nothing close to this kind of crap - while they defend things like this and the other shit I mentioned -  has a severe problem. Their scales of right and wrong, good and bad, acceptable and unacceptable are fucked.

When you have a faulty instrument, you compare it to multiple functioning ones to recalibrate.

Their perception of that shit is faulty. I'm holding up the feedback of users for them to have the opportunity to recalibrate their broken shit.

There's no magic or mind control or forcing anything, they still have every option of just ignoring it all.

And users that are not okay with a site that can't even SEE the line between fiction and rl - have every option available to them, as to what they may feel like doing about it.
Samuelblack7horn
Samuelblack7horn
4 years, 10 months ago
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I almost threw up while reading those journals.... I'm glad I don't know who that is...
SilverJackal
SilverJackal
4 years, 10 months ago
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Don't know who the person is, but I have a feeling that they may be a troll posting these journals to cause drama. Yes the admins need to get on the ball and do something, but this site has been pelted by trolls and haters since day one. Hell loads of furs on FA have been calling this site PedoBunny since it began because the cub furs migrated here after the infamous FA purge of '09, and because one of the admins was former chief of Softpaws Magazine.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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They called it pedobunny because the creator/owner made Softpaw and because there was nobody involved in the site creation and initial promotion that weren't known cub-types, myself included.

If it's a troll, then all the more reason for them to not permit it.

The real issue is that they genuinely do not cognitively perceive the problem that most people see immediately. They don't see where the line between fictional fantasy vs desire for reality. THAT is what people who hate and attack all fucked up fetish art are afraid of.

IB has made all this shit worse by being a big shining beacon of exactly what the haters accuse is wrong with all of us: being unable to see where that line is, and NOT defend where people cross it.
SilverJackal
SilverJackal
4 years, 10 months ago
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A lot of people love to point fingers at what they believe is wrong with the Fandom, yet also at the same time try to find ways to defend other questionable things. I've seen furs rant and bitch over cub stuff and beastality, but fap to stuff like vore, snuff, and gore and try to come up with reasons to romantize it. Inkbunny got it "Pedo Bunny" label because of Kevin Softpaws and the cub fur exodus yes, but the nickname also came from the slime of FA and Dragoneer because IB posed a threat. IB runs smoother than FA, is more user friendly, and wasn't a total cluster fuck that had more holes in its security than a fishnet stocking and fell apart at the seams when something new was added. They did the same thing when Weasel was made as well. It's rather ironic that FA tries to paint itself as THE furry site, yet their con FAU is one of the smallest in existence; and the main users of the site are either devoted popufurs, the FA admin whore club, or artists that keep an FA going because some clients use it.

And WB, what kind of justice are you wanting to be done to this fur you are ranting on about? The admins did all they can do short of banning the guy, and his journals are more akin to shock and clickbait. Are you wanting the fur to be strung up at the next con and beaten with Bad Dragon dildos like a piñata? Waterboarded using the drool of your rabid fans still waiting for you to release "Oh Brother! 2"? Or perhaps smothered under the mountain of dust and dried cum that was collected from your old Furnation page?

And to all the other furs here complaining about the admins not doing anything about the artists that don't properly tag their work, I'm assuming that none of ya'll don't take the few seconds needed to add a tag to your blacklist. If the artist uses words other than "cub", add the words that can be grouped with it to your blacklist. Hell you can even blacklist an artist from showing up in your searches. Also there is the option of, you know, adding tags to submissions on the "suggested tags". Yes it will require you to click on the pics that pop up in your search, but you can survive glancing at cub peen for a second to add a tag. It's that simple folks.

TheDeinonychus
TheDeinonychus
4 years, 10 months ago
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There possibilities with this.
1. The guy is just an idiot. If he's actually acting like this IRL, he's going to do something stupid and land himself in trouble long before he actually hurts anyone.

2. He's just an idiot trying to be edgy. Nothing to see here, move on.

3. The worst possibility honestly. This guy is just an asshole trying to perpetuate the 'furfags are pedos' tripe that gets slung around now and then. I've seen it before. Some jerk-off will start up an account on some furry fandom site, lay low for a while, then start posting all sorts of the worst shit they can think up, then point to it as 'proof'.
stormlust
stormlust
4 years, 10 months ago
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i think hes on the idiot side of things as i dont think any one who is into that real kinda stuff will post openly on the web maybe on the dark web but not out here where they are just calling out for the fbi to bust down there door
illis2
illis2
4 years, 10 months ago
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A lot of this lookin kinda sus, my dude.
Now I'm not going to gloss over this and think this is just some edgelord or radlib trying to start some sort of internet war but the content of these screenshots look to good to be true, the main problem that irks me is why you censored the name of the user if you intended on bringing awareness to the situation.
I mean seriously, why even censor this dude's name?
Drop the deets on us, call out the nigga, do fuckin somethin man.

I still think this site has some major problems with it's moderation, but what you're doing in this situation just seems like the kind of shit I'd expect on Twitter.
The one site people come here to get away from.
Wolfblade
Wolfblade
4 years, 10 months ago
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I didn't take the screencaps or censor them, another user did. The staff hasn't argued their authenticity. They know the user and they don't claim these aren't real.

There are rules they could slap me with if I named the person, so I don't. Because the public having the name and bombing the user isn't the point or goal. Just showing them what their users think about this is the point. They can't perceive the problem, but they've shown in the past that they will act if enough people tell them they must.

It's not ideal for a staff to be that way. But that's what it is, here.
R3DRUNNER
R3DRUNNER
4 years, 10 months ago
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inkbunny mods making bad decisions? i am shocked
DeepPurpleVibrator
DeepPurpleVibrator
4 years, 10 months ago
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Dear god... InkBunny mods, how COULD you?!
It's one thing to fantasize about fucking kid Max Goof or Timmy Turner, but this sick dude's fantasizing about actual god damned kids. IRL stuff is where mods should draw the line, but they fucked up big time, here. It's shit like that that makes people think cub, loli, and shota consumers are actual pedos. And this is coming from someone who personally doesn't like most of that stuff!
AxleFurret
AxleFurret
4 years, 10 months ago
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Would be a real shame if something like, oh, I don't know... "4chan" got wind of this "proud pedo" guy.
TaylinSora
TaylinSora
4 years, 10 months ago
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who would even humor stuff like this? like is there no limit on what people say or can any just say they have fantasies about the contexts stated in the very first picture alone, i don't care if it's "fantasy" or not, it's exceedingly fucked up, and straight up has nothing to do about furries or the like, this stuff shouldn't be tolerated at all, and if any one mod, admin or owner dare protect those journals, then I'll happily consider alternatives to this site rather than invest in a site that oversees insane folks like that. Those disgusting statements or claim it as a right for free speak, well i'm gonna say they've not a single right to it, American or no, scum like that deserves nothing less what he fantasizes about, i'm sorry but i agree that these folks need to be arrested and put in a psyche-ward, where they can be given the mental treatment and distancing from society they deserve.
RiskItForTheBiscuit
RiskItForTheBiscuit
4 years, 10 months ago
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It has been a recurrent thing for some months now, the staff simply doesn't seem to care about support tickets or anything else for that matter. There is no reply, no deleting of human NSFW art (which I don't care about, but that means they're not enforcing their TOS anymore) etc.
Bacent
Bacent
4 years, 10 months ago
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Personally only good thing about inkbunny is the fact they have a block user/submissions/tags system that blows FA's out of the water. But IB was made because certain fetishes were banned from FA, so some parts of it are a cesspool.

The only report they ever answered was back in 2016 for me, and I've only had two since then about potential rule breaking.
Darkality
Darkality
4 years, 10 months ago
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Imagine acting like you have the moral high ground to pedos when you draw cub porn lol
Weiss
Weiss
4 years, 10 months ago
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Imagine not being able to distinguish between reality and fantasy
Darkality
Darkality
4 years, 10 months ago
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Coming from a Sonic profile, that's rich.
Weiss
Weiss
4 years, 10 months ago
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Oh wow, judging people from their profile pics. What is this, Youtube?
foxboyprower
foxboyprower
4 years, 10 months ago
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I'm never engaged enough in any community to catch or hear about this kind of thing when it happens.
I just have a surface level of engagement where I like a site for it's design and code alone. And inkbunny to me still feels like one of the best art sites in that respect.

But I know without the more engaged community art sites would dry up like google+. I wished it were possible to seperate the two things somehow.
foxboyprower
foxboyprower
4 years, 10 months ago
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On second thought that wouldn't work very well because any distribution system would need a filter and thus decisions would have to be made, and people would have thoughts about said decisions leading to scenarios like this.

So I guess I'll just have to hope somehow the admins stop this kind of behavior for the long-term survival of this platform.
DismalDon
DismalDon
4 years, 10 months ago
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Okay.  I have questions about both Wolfblade and Inkbunny.

Wolf:  Why not only did you provide the username of the accused but redacted his name?  If your accusing someone of sharing or asking for cp and bestiality you better provide actual evidence otherwise your committing libel.  (And why post those journals on your imgur account looks incriminating just saying)

Inkbunny:  Reading the journal of this user (who most likely a troll), his fantasies sexually involves humans which is against your TOS.  This bothers me because you removed my Barbara Lamb drawing claiming that she looks too human even though she's obviously not (unless you think her hair is a fur hat with sheep hair)?  So far this seem like more clickbait but nevertheless this concerns me.  I'm not sure if I'll continue posting here in the future.  
Weiss
Weiss
4 years, 10 months ago
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Read a few comments and both your questions will be answered. WB was afraid he'd get slapped for calling out the person by name hence the redaction and i believe the mods have removed the offending journals specifically for that rule of humans being against the TOS
blackwlf
blackwlf
4 years, 10 months ago
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While I tend to ignore anybody getting condemned for a fantasy. . . yeah, there's gotta be a line, and the little bit I read of those posts before I had to close it was. . . vile. Fantasy is one thing, but that's some Manson Family stuff over there.

And RL porn. . . just no. No, no, all of the no. Fantasy is fine, but RL beast or CP means people are being hurt by it. All the no.
frogstune
frogstune
4 years, 10 months ago
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Seems to me that this is motivated by an incident that happened a day or 2 before you posted this journal.  Which makes me wonder "when" you actually tried to get the admin to do something about it.  Because if you used that incident as the sole reason to bring up something "worse", then I'd ask why you weren't motivated to do something earlier?  Or did you just happen to have the good fortune of stumbling across some pedo and their journals so you can minimize someone else's trivial repeated breaking of the same rule over and over again?  Either way, one wrong isn't righted by turning in someone for doing something even worse, or trying to vilify admins for not taking action immediately at your behest.  From what I gather, they work as a team, and I'd imagine that there is some protocol they have to follow.  I'd imagine they did more than just look at journals, and probably had to go through pm's or any other incriminating info they could find to log.  Maybe it isn't as simple as just that one person being a public pedo, maybe there are more involved in correspondence with him(or her, as I didn't read all of.  I'd be very worried if you held that information as a "trump" card, just so you can try and use it as blackmail against admins, so that a friend can be let off the hook.

Let's not act like a bunch of "Karen's" about it all, as I'm sure you've already spoken to the "manager", and clearly your aren't happy with the service you were provided with.
afurry0064
afurry0064
4 years, 10 months ago
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That's just flat out fucking wrong jeez. Full stop.
GrandAngel
GrandAngel
4 years, 10 months ago
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Is it really that shocking, though?

Like, this site has attracted a number of pedos ... some of whom I'm sure are even commenting in this very journal, just putting on a show so they don't get a spotlight on themselves.  

Disregarding what anyone thinks of pedos, let's not pretend they don't exist in quite a number on this site, because that just seems disingenuous.
AjaxYosh
AjaxYosh
4 years, 9 months ago
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gotta be real here, that shit sounds like the words of a 4chan troll who hacked/stole somebody's account to deface them

like those posts are so geared and worded in such a way that it sounds like their sole intent is to literally piss off as many people as they possibly can, i honestly can't buy it for even a second
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