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Political reality in my country and the USA has been demoralizing and abysmal for years, so today is a great day. The mainstream media; celebrities; government; propaganda all over entertainment; on your tv; on your streets; walls and fucking bus shelters; everywhere you look, we're screamed at. We're told we are scum, bigots, misogynists, the most horrible people who ever lived. If we have a candidate who remotely represents our concerns, that candidate is swamped from all sides with vilification. I have never in my life seen a political figure more demonized than Donald Trump, more lied about than him. The scare-mongering was off the fucking charts. Yet, you beautiful American bastards were not swayed, cowed or deterred by any of it. I hope you all have a great future ahead of you and that my country follows in your footsteps.

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GRemy
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I'm more the "BIH America" than the "RIP America" person since I don't believe America was ever "great" to begin with. I'm really not surprised, since Biden and Harris had four freaking years to solve the problems the latter promised to fix. And I'm sure the rest of the world is whining since they won't have a president who will blindly give head to them. I'm not a diehard patriot myself, but I do believe America and its people come first and that putting the interests of other nations above those of yours is treason. Even the late Hugo Chávez (who's actually one of my modern heroes, since pretty much all his observations about America were spot-on) believed American leaders needed to put their people above those of others.
UrianKitsune
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Your hero is a communist. That ain't good.
KevinSnowpaw
1 month, 3 weeks ago
thanks for the support Roarz ^^ It means a lot that some of our cousins across the pond are shareing in the moment... I SHIVER at whats been done to Britten DX I hope thats comeing to an end soon as well.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Naturally, I always want my cousins in the west to succeed XP.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Another British person told me their current goverment was thrown out not because of ideological reasons, but because they were ineffective.
zfhqzepi
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Gongrats !
A shining future is finally possible
Felt
1 month, 3 weeks ago
The 'new' president is a convicted felon.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Convicted of things of which all politicians are guilty but are never even charged with. So I don't give a toss and neither should anyone else of integrity. Anyone with a care for fairness can recognise when the law is being weaponised.
Felt
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Oh, I'm sure we'll see great examples of that in the coming months.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Well I'm not a fortune-teller so I wouldn't know XP.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LSjUbBDmlc

One supposed fortune teller.
UrianKitsune
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Cope. Harder.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Convicted on fake charges which will be overturned.  Happens all the time.  Ever heard of Gary Dotson, imprisoned for a rape that never happened, and the fuss it took to prove his innocence?  I have.

And I remember when Clinton was President and all the liberals screamed "character doesn't matter".  The chickens have come home to roost.
taurex
1 month, 3 weeks ago
really awe inspiring, a fellon can become a president!, and people say the american dream is dead.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
On fake charges which were politically motivated and will be overturned.

Ironically Harris used to be a district attorney, and district attorney, regardless of political affiliation, are known to put innocent people into prison.  That would explain Trump's higher popularity with nonwhites.
OdeToKirihito
1 month, 3 weeks ago
i hope the project 2025 target furries
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
It's a crank project that has nothing to do with Trump.
OdeToKirihito
1 month, 3 weeks ago
prove?
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Roarey just did the job for me.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
The Project 2025 that you haven't read and Trump denounced? It's a book that doesn't align with Trump's platform, lol.
OdeToKirihito
1 month, 3 weeks ago
and you read?
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
inkbunnyisbroken
1 month, 3 weeks ago
project 2025 was proven to be a china psyop you tool.
OdeToKirihito
1 month, 3 weeks ago
prove?
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Er, no, it's an actual book by conservative think-tanks that generally calls for a massive restructuring of government agencies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv72BigxKEY
OdeToKirihito
1 month, 3 weeks ago
i sure to god, even this book (that's more in line as pdf) start to target people like me and you, because we are queers (Oh! sorry, gay people), you gonna to understand why people are so scared and sad about this elections and this dumb thing call "Project 2025"
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
What rubbish are you talking about? I already said Trump doesn't agree with it. Try not listening to scumbag media organisations who try to scare you about everything and manipulate your opinions. Trump didn't fuck over gay people when he was last in office and there's NOTHING to suggest he will this time, either. Good lord, get a grip.
OdeToKirihito
1 month, 3 weeks ago
prove?
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
No, you lazy arsehole.
OdeToKirihito
1 month, 3 weeks ago
actually, the correct word is "asshole", not arsehole
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I'm an englishman, so no.
OdeToKirihito
1 month, 3 weeks ago
sorry, i dumb
UrianKitsune
1 month, 3 weeks ago
He's BRITISH, you dingbat. They say "arse" and even spell it as such. Stop being a prick before Roarey truly takes the piss out of you.
OdeToKirihito
1 month, 3 weeks ago
so why he so happy to the america even he is british????
(also thanks for the correction, i dumb)
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Because what happens in the USA directly affects the UK. All the woke culture over there infected my country afterwards, so if it is destroyed in the USA it can also happen here. America affects the world.
OdeToKirihito
1 month, 3 weeks ago
what type of woke culture is destroying UK and USA?
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ub2q0vSWsw
Forget George Carlin.  Here is a REAL rebel!
inkbunnyisbroken
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Oh. Huh. My B
ScubaCat
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Aww sheet, here we go again
pinktigerz
1 month, 3 weeks ago
People no longer seem to be able to form their own opinions or do their own research. It amazes me with the amount of infirmation available at our finger tips, people are still only spouting off political talking points they get from legacy media outlets, and entertainers.
UrianKitsune
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I think last night proved that's not as much of the case as it used to be. Now the real work begins.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Actually most entertainers supported Harris.  Ted Nugent was a rare exception, and months ago I bought this hat from his store:
https://store.tednugent.com/product/black-camo-elect-th...
DainenDog
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Good luck US furries, you're going to need it.

( T_T)\(^-^ )
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Trying to scare people with lies is an evil thing to do.
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
and yet that's all they're capable of doing.
DaddyChee
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Living across the pond, you don't get the day today interactions we have to deal with with the political right. You live in this little grass is greener idea over there in the uk. Like there are people who grass is greener for  what's in the UK versus what's in america.

It's a typical, and all too common, human impulse. You aren't unique.

Trumps allies are decidedly anti-LGBTQ+. They are decidedly pro-theocracy, openly now (MTG proudly saying she's a Christian Nationalist).

You were blessed with, however flawed it is, the ability to go to the hospital. And not end up with a $30,000 bill because you didn't have insurance. Because you can't afford 686 a month, when you only make $22 an hour (that is, literally, what my monthly would be for private insurance through work). You don't have to worry about declaring bankruptcy after you get sick. And hope to God you don't get sick again before those 7 years are up.

We currently have limited the insurance company so they can't deny you coverage for pre-existing conditions. We currently have made it so anything preventative does not cost you a copay. All of this was the Affordable Care Act. The closest America to get to the system you have. And now? Even in his first term, Trump wanted to take that down. But he had people on his staff that limited him. That foiled him. Now all he has is sycophants.

See, half my family is British. I have no illusions that the system there is perfect, or so fantastic it shits golden blow job's with every check up. I also know a lot of your system's current issues are due to funding cuts by the conservative government over the last, what, 14 years? That the big reason you have such shortage of nurses is BREXIT. Because a fair bit of your nurses were from other EU countries.

So the risk of sounding rude, though I am a punk, so sometimes I just don't give a shit if I sound rude: maybe you should come live here, before you start commenting on how great it is with the Republicans in control of everything now. Maybe you should see the reality of it, instead of your little bubble over there in the uk. Then maybe you should then have an opinion and say shit.

LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
The ACA isn't even anything like national health insurance, it forced people to buy insurance they could not afford or pay a penalty.  Trump tried to remove it because the people wanted that but McCain stopped that out of spite because the American people loved Trump and not him.  Anyone who denies it is lying through their teeth.  How is ACA working for you smartypants?

And we had four years of misery under Biden.  Of course people are poorer now because of him.  The people who voted for Trump don't want to starve to death or be called deplorables or garbage.  It's the rich who supported Harris, because they hate ordinary people who do real work for a living.  You want to call yourself smart but you proved the opposite.  We're the ones who knows what is going on, and when we outsmart you, you get huffy and fling poo at us like your ilk always do.  Reality sucks dunnit?
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
We got it.
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
well, we managed to avoid a 2nd socialist and/or communist president in a row this year and democracy (commie democracy that is) failed.

you know...the "democracy" where it's only a democratic victory if democrats win through fraud and all manner of completely illegal trickery.

heck, they even tried bringing in 5 trucks of ballots during the night AFTER the voting ended in...somewhere in pennsylvania (i forgot what town) and even that was too little too late.

then there was the really sneaky BS of putting a dot in one of the squares on ballots to invalidate them if someone voted for trump as well as intentionally putting typos in the ballots.

the democrats may have pulled off a successful insurrection in 2020 and tried to frame trump for it but their crime lost this year. that's a victory everyone should be celebrating.

so, in that sense, democracy failed this year because the democrats failed to win the election by any and all means necessary laws be damned. the party of crime, racism, hatred, and division lost. and that's ALWAYS good to see!

now we just have to hope trump can repair the flaming wreckage of an economy biden's "bidenomics" caused and see if he can end the wars in ukraine and the middle east (a 2nd time for this war). oh, and finish the border wall.

but of course, i know you leftists don't want that because you think out of control inflation and forever wars and believe a nation with no borders actively being invaded for 4 years straight are all good things and things to be celebrated.

but for the rest of us...your gaslighting, lies, and propaganda hasn't worked for 8 years and counting now. it worked well enough for you all to gaslight yourselves into believing everyone except you were doing all the things you yourselves were doing and supporting as you endlessly projected it outwards onto other people though.

but that's about ALL it achieved. all the political left has done and achieved in the past 8 years is doing everything they possibly can to drag everyone down (per commie "equity") and make life a living hell for EVERYONE.

it's a wonder we even have an economy at all right now. it's been teetering on the razor's edge of total collapse for weeks thanks to bidenomics.
DaddyChee
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Just wait till the terrorists take hold. You seem to forget during his previous presidency the debt was increased by 7 trillion. The most ever.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW It was Obama who literally doubled the national debt for no gain.  And he got fewer votes in 2012 than in 2008.  Successful Presidents always get more during their reelection.  You want to convince us you know things, but we normal people know better.  Reality sucks dunnit?
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
you mean antifa and blm? the democrat goon squads?

please...those ran their course years ago and haven't been seen in quite some time now.
Simic
1 month, 3 weeks ago
The american leftist furries are adults without a brain. Meanwhile STEM major furries are with brains and ambition for their long term goal.

I am doing alright, been up to getting schaum outline for accounting book and passed accounting class.
OmegaAllershausen
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Ditto.
OmegaAllershausen
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Praise God! :)
TaylinSora
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Honestly it's wierd how intensely divisive and vile the furry community here can get over an election. o.o like it's all over my notifications, and it's nothing but doom and gloom and nothing else
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
It is lamentable how awful the fandom has become, due to all the far-left insanity that has saturated it.
TaylinSora
1 month, 3 weeks ago
It is unfortunate. u.u
cathedgefire1000
1 month, 3 weeks ago
divisiveness over the election and politics is a sign of the present times, not a right-left-specific issue imo.
ConejoBlanco
1 month, 3 weeks ago
its just unbeliveable how furry community is in how they handle politics, and more those who wants go and vote, but those are who just wants vote for their political party only.
But yes, as Colombian myself we move eveything with US dollars too, so we'll see how everythings going on in the future.
DaddyChee
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Furries are humans. I do remember (been a furry since 98) when we weren't as socially accepted, we wouldn't care about politics or the political leanings of your fellow furries. We just wanted to meet fellow needs, talk furry stuff, and look at furry por...
Er... anthropomorphic art. ;)

This rise of political in furry seems to have come from two main sources I beleive:
1. As furries have become more socially acceptable, the Fandom has grown larger. And like anything dealing with Dunbarxs Number (look it up) we got cliques. Yeah, we had jokes about foxes and otters, but they were good natured. Now it's "oh you don't think as I do? Your BAD.

But this is intertwined with #2: the rise of web 2.0 and the extreme monetization of the internet in the form of algorithms. It put people in bubbles, down rabbit holes (and not the FUN rabbit holes surrounded by fur) until they were only in echo chambers and were basically slowly radicalized. It happen to almost everyone, and furries are still human.

The Fandom has gotten extremely judgemental. And that creates fissures and reactions. And people feel they must loudly proclaim thier stance and hang everyone else! And if you disagree with them,well, your just an idiot, and they will talk down to you and harass you! Oh, and any demonstrable fact that contravenes (sp) thier version of reality is FAKE NEWS or an illuminati conspiracy to control minds!
Oh yeah, and you're trying to stifle thier freedom of speech!



Note I didn't say a particular side? Because they all do it.

Self righteous,  judgemental,  and first to throw the stone.

It's pathetically sad.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
You aren't innocent of that yourself you know.
furrylvr
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Whelp. Support ticket made. Idc what any of you say this shouldnt have been made or posted.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Is there a rule against making political comments?
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
That's malicious use of the reporting system, there is nothing rule-breaking about this submission.
moyomongoose
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Freedom of speech, buttercup.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I do not recall seeing any rules against political posting on this website.  If there are, someone can name them.
moyomongoose
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I wouldn't doubt
furrylvr
furrylvr
would try and come up with nothing.
OmegaAllershausen
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Your opinion.
moyomongoose
1 month, 3 weeks ago
To
furrylvr
furrylvr
...Here's a song that might cheer you up.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=68vZX2uUKKA&pp=ygUUZG...
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
ah, an anti-free speech furry. ok
moyomongoose
1 month, 3 weeks ago
What would be good for this country, as well as every country that elects it's officials, would be independent candidates who'll answer to the people, instead of puppet candidates who answer to a political party.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Indeed, like Trump XP.
moyomongoose
1 month, 3 weeks ago
😁
DaddyChee
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Srsly?  Wow...
DavidSamuelson
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Heh great stuff Roarey! Love it!
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Thankee :3.
Kittzy
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I think its time to break this great song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGBVpyiW-9M
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
<3
doctorfluffkins
1 month, 3 weeks ago
the demonization you describe, i can imagine, is being called things like "fascist" or "bigot" for being pro-trump?
or maybe painted to be racist?

Well. I doubt a random comment would affect your opinion, so I'll just say:
You're a reasonable person, but I believe you've fallen into the phantasm. The Republican stance on many issues is based on contradictory and false information that is always and easily disproven, but you will refuse to listen to any objectors because embracing the contradictory information emancipates you from developing the rational position. The rational position being: Our current capitalist system is not working to meet the needs of the people. Thats an anxious position to have when you've spent your whole life being told that it's the best! So you'd prefer not to believe it.

blah blah blah. i still think you deserve happiness in life but im scared for the future of my friends who are gay or transgender.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
You're a socialist, an ideology that kills millions of its own people, regardless of any wars it gets involved in. You celebrate evil then talk about compassion for people who aren't going to be hurt by a guy who didn't hurt them last time he was in office. It's amazing to me when I'm called essentially brainwashed by 21st century "capitalism is evil" commies, lol. I actually spent my teens and 20s on the left, thought conservatives were idiots, then I looked inwards at my own assumptions and started listening to and reading the perspectives of those outside my beliefs. I was convinced of my errors by evidence. So everything you have written there is wrong, laughably wrong. Now please leave me be, I genuinely hate speaking to leftists, you make me sick,
doctorfluffkins
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Sonamyfan04
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Trump is a convicted felon, accused by so many women for sexual harassment, praised his supporters in 2020 who ran a van of Biden votes off the road, was friends with Epstein, IS ON THE EPSTEIN LIST, refused to admit losing in 2020, January 6th, and last but not least, bragged on Howard Stern's show in 2002 about seeing miss teen america contestants naked, contestants who are all minors by the way, and fully allowed to get away with that shit. And this sick fuck, won. Your country is doomed.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I'm British, shows you didn't read anything in the image or below it :3. Anyway, think on just how disgusting and awful his opposition is if, despite the unending refrain of shit like you just wrote being hurled his way for several years, and yet the American public elected him by a colossal landslide. Try learning something from that, if you have the capability.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
The criminal charges are false and will be thrown out.  Happens all the time.

And I'm not impressed by reputations.  We all thought saint Bill Cosby, remember?  And it was the Clintons who were on Epstein's list.  Reality sucks dunnit?
Sonamyfan04
1 month, 2 weeks ago
TRUMP'S NAME IS ON THE FUCKING LIST TOO, YOU IDIOT! IT'S NOT JUST THE CLINTON'S!
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 2 weeks ago
And when the allegations broke out, he severed every tie with him, vociferously. Not everybody connected with Epstein is guilty of something heinous, he was an extremely well-connected man, for reasons not connected to anything sexual. Clinton is only prominent because he's already mired in multiple sexual allegations going back decades, yet there's no mass international hysteria over that old cunt, is there? Never matters when lefties are doing shit, but right wingers have to deal with mountains of lies, never mind what they actually do. I mean there are scores of people who say Trump is a rapist, based on sod all other than a joke he made years ago. You socialists are unhinged beyond belief, I am so fucking glad you're all starting to lose, because it has been agony watching morons of your caliber being in charge everywhere, ruining everything you touch, stinking up everything good on the planet. God it's nice to see.
LongTom
1 month, 2 weeks ago
If it were the news media would have put it out to the public long ago.  Reality sucks dunnit?
thecooler
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I guess in the battle of America VS Murika, Murika won today eh?
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
mhm, the traditional democrat strategy of democrats winning by any and all means necessary laws and legality be damned failed this time.

even the dot in the square and typos to invalidate ballots and 5 trucks of ballots delivered during the night somewhere in pennsylvania didn't work.
SaienWolf
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I don't speak much but I like this  :3
KodyWulf
1 month, 3 weeks ago
❤ We love you too!
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFpkvAePP7M

A video where Donald Trump roasts Rosie O'Donnell.  But the responses are the fun part!
CrinkleCorgi
1 month, 3 weeks ago
My favorite part about these meltdowns is all the anti-gun people suddenly wanting to get a gun. Hope you don't have a marijuana card or are a frequent user of marijuana or else you'll be denied. Even more hope they don't lie on the background check form about that or else that's a felony right there. Of course, that's all assuming they don't get flat out denied for either being on psychotropic medications, having a mental illness, having voluntarily committed yourself to a mental institution, or are a convicted felon.  
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
One liberal newspaper columnist admitted that he tried to prove how easy it was to get an assault weapon by buying one from a gun store.  But he was denied getting the gun when he was found to have spent a day in jail for hitting his wife.
DarkMechanicum023
1 month, 3 weeks ago
It wasn't enough to just unfollow you apparently. Stop wasting your talent spreading the ghosts that haunt your brain.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Roarey previously admitted he is a disillusioned leftist.  The chickens have come home to roost.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I don't owe you the silencing of my own views. If you need protection from images, why are you on an adult-rated porn site? You know, most people have the impulse control to just move on when they see something they don't like, I do it all the time, rather than leave some snooty comment. Grow up.
yearsofexp
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I might make some enemies today, but ty for this picture and post. I do want to say one major thing to people: do NOT make a religion of your political party and social beliefs. It's not about (or shouldn't be about) the cultist mentality. It's about reading passed the headlines. It's about doing research passed the propoganda. You have to objectively look at the forest for the trees and be honest with yourself and the people around you. It's not just about the future promises. It's about the present actions AND past works. Knee-jerk reactions will not save you in the end, and they only lead to more and more problems.
Whitebear21
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Based Brit
DaddyChee
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Eat the Rich
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Eat criminals.
InkTheseNuts
1 month, 3 weeks ago
It is what he just said.
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
nope but nice try
DaddyChee
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Nope, ink is right. Most obscenely rich people are likely bending or outright breaking the law and getting no punishment or slaps on the wrist.

The more the resources are concentrated at the top, the less everyone else has. Eventually we are going to rebel (which is what eat the rich actually stands for).

As I keep telling people, and they don't get it: I am not anti capitalism, I am against this neo-Guilded Age monstrosity that has replaced it, that people still call capitalism.  Where everything is about maximum profit, squeezing every last red cent out of the public to line thier pockets. Where all they think about is the quarter,  instead of long term sustainability of the company.  It's sick, obscene, and pure greed. Fuxk, adjusted for inflation, Elon Musk is richer than of the Guilded Age's rich. IIRC,  COMBINED.

IF there is a billionaire capitalist we should back, it's the guy who started Arizona Iced Tea. He has publicly said, when interviewed to why he doesn't raise prices when everyone else was, [paraphrasing]  im already a billionaire. Why do I need more money? And why should I make it harder for people to afford food?
That's a rational, thoughtful capitalist.
Go watch The Fat Electricians YouTube video on him.
 For the rest of the neoGuilded Age bastards I reiterate:

EAT THE RICH
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
ok, socialist.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Most rich people are actually middle-aged folks who have worked very hard all their lives and created successful businesses. They aren't criminals at all and their contribution to society is immensely positive. There are cheating scumbags in every sphere of society, however, so of course there are terrible people in the business world. The idea you can paint most of them as awful, though, is absurd rubbish, it is a massive display of ingratitude and lack of charity toward ones fellow man. If you will think of people with money as inherently awful then you lose legitimacy when calling attention to the actually awful people, because you've created a standard that has no fairness, balance or coherency.
DaddyChee
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Eat criminals? That's funny.

Criminals is a shifting target. What is legal one day, is illegal the next.

You remember that thoughtful poem Thad addresses this self-righteousness you just spouted, right?

Here, les me give you a hint:

First they came for the communists...."

Yeah, that one. Remember how that ended?
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
No it isn't.  Murder was a crime as much fifty or a hundred or a thousand years ago as it is today.  Same with rape, assault, robbery, swindling, etc.  Asbestos used to be legal until it was discovered to be a serious health hazard.  In ancient cultures brothers and sisters could marry, until it was realized it caused genetic problems.  Slavery has been abolished in all Western Hemisphere nations, but it is still alive and well in some Arab nations.  And Liberia was an African nation founded as a nation where former American slaves could go live-and THEY bought their own black slaves.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Instead of trying for some "gotcha" and in consequence looking like a total idiot, try thinking of actions people do that have essentially always been considered crimes. Theft, murder, rape, assault etc. Believe it or not, the more people there are who do those things, the worse society is.
Woofajuana
1 month, 3 weeks ago
No. The rich made their money and I didn't. KILL ALL THE LAWYERS! They are the reason for the rich getting richer. They are why we are in this mess. They are why you can be sued for a thief injuring themselves inside your home while stealing from you. That's lawyers. The rich would fall without their lawyers.
DaddyChee
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Wasn't that what Shakespeare said?
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
https://nosweatshakespeare.com/quotes/famous/lets-kill-...

No, one of his villains did.  The meaning is that lawyers are a force of good.  Yes, lawyers can be bad, such as ambulance chasers and mobster mouthpieces, but they are not a class of evil people.  O. J. Simpson's lawyers weren't so wonderful, the prosecution did such a bad job they could not make their case.
ZwolfJareAlt306
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Thats a terrible idea.

...there's not enough of them to go around...
Dryhoikus
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Big talk for someone not even in the USA
DavidSamuelson
1 month, 3 weeks ago
As someone who lives in the USA, I approve of his message.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Babyish. petty retort. You don't have to be in a place to comment on it.
DaddyChee
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Actually yes, it should be that way. It's called informed opinion.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
In a college English class we read John Updike's short story "A&P", which refers to the now-defunct grocery chain and takes place in one such store.  The store is in a coastal town and the cynical narrator store clerk mentions how there are people living in the town who haven't seen the ocean in twenty years.  You can live in the USA and not learn much about it.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 2 weeks ago
That denies the concept of being able to convey information to people about something they didn't personally witness. Which is absolutely bonkers.
searchthedragon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
He is homphobic, transphobic, also he is friend of Putin
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Those insults are so over-used at this point they mean absolutely nothing anymore. Try thinking beyond what the pathetic figureheads in the media come out with. It's shit, and your head is filled with it.
searchthedragon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I am pro-respect, if right side let such people live and do not tries to make their lives harder I would have nothing, I am pro-libertarianism everything for everybody
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
You are not pro-respect when the only way you describe a person is listing pointless accusations. That's about the most disrespectful thing you could do in your message.
searchthedragon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I am, and I am using his opinion about topics like gays or trans people, if reps would stay away from topics like gays or trans people and rather consider economics I would change my mind :P Also his VP want to not let Ukraine join NATO and force it to give up its land to Russia
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I don't recall Trump saying anything about homosexuals and as for transgenders, it's not merely a conservative viewpoint, but plenty of women feel that they are not just men with tits.  And certainly people before reaching adulthood should NOT be allowed to change their gender or be given puberty-blocking drugs.  Just as America did one thing right and not allow Thalidomide to be used by pregnant women like Europe did, and guess what happened?

And enough of this Trump being pro-Russian crap.  There is no evidence of this.  And Russia did not want the Ukraine to join NATO, what if we tried it when they did no wrong?  And the invasion happened under Biden's watch which says plenty.
searchthedragon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
And Vence didn't said  that he want that Ukraine should not give their land, and Trump is not Putin's friend
" Trump barred organizations that provide abortions or abortion referrals from receiving federal funds.[264] He said he supported "traditional marriage" but considered the nationwide legality of same-sex marriage "settled".[265] His administration rolled back key components of the Obama administration's workplace protections against discrimination of LGBTQ people.[266] Trump's attempted rollback of anti-discrimination protections for transgender patients in August 2020 was halted by a federal judge after a Supreme Court ruling extended employees' civil rights protections to gender identity and sexual orientation.[267]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

It's their decision what they want to do, you are soo pro-freedom xD
searchthedragon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
anyway i want to stay away from this, politics makes me hate humanity more
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Politics aside, Wikipedia is a website where anyone can write anything they want on it, so I put limited faith in it.  Also, as for transgenders, plenty of people who are not otherwise conservative do not consider women to be men with tits.  J. K. Rowling got into big trouble for saying as much, though many if not most people agree with her.

As for animals, the only ones known to change their genders are clownfish, where a male may become female if a female fish dies, or angelfish where the reverse happens.  And they do not choose to do this, the process in automatic and involuntary.  You can guess why the protagonist clownfish was so anxious to find Nemo in the movie.
searchthedragon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Yes, but there are SOURCES for this
Rowling is not from the "left" side, she is the TERF, TERFs are something like the middle of L and R of political spectrum, also, it is their (trans people) choose what they want to do with their lifes
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I'm sure there are plenty of women besides Rowling, and probably from all points on the political spectrum.  And people wouldn't care if men posing as women didn't go into women's private places and show their genitals.  In some cultures a woman is not supposed to see any man's genitals except their husband's.  It's not about your personal fantasies, it's forcing others to play along with them.
Woofajuana
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I most certainly feel this way. And quite simply, if a man can be a woman for absolutely NO other reason than he *identifies* as one and no one is allowed to say otherwise, then I am not a transphobe nor a TERF because I do not identify as one and no one is allowed to say otherwise. No one has been able to explain to me in a scientific manner WHY men are women simply because they identify as one but I cannot be a wolf because I identify as one. All I have ever gotten is insults and banned. If that's all you got, then your position doesn't have merit. When you approach someone you want to "teach" with violent and patronizing insults and never actually get to the point other than "look it up," you are the problem, not me. I don't care enough about the subject, that's your job to be educated enough in a subject you feel that strongly about to educate me. The most toxic men have been the ones pretending to be women. If they really were women, they would be capable of sympathizing with our fears, but instead, they call us names like terf. I'm not a feminist in the slightest. I am simply female. My husband will check again just to make sure.
InkTheseNuts
1 month, 3 weeks ago
"Overused"
That is like the most stupidest "logic" I have ever heard and nothing, but a way to not listening.
Like if they have no meaning to you.. okay? Doesn't change the fact that he is those things.

But hey, nice to see your reaction to something like that you immediately get to insulting.
Is that how you all normally react to facts? Yikes.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
It's how I react to nonsense XP. Trump is not racist/sexist/transphobic. These are meaningless missiles thrown at literally fucking everyone these days as ad hominem attempts to remove people from discussions and discredit everything they say. It is whiny, pathetic and has no bearing on someone's ability to lead a country. It makes no difference whatsoever if a leader is an asshole or not, what matters is the results of his leadership. What kind of insane standard for any leader of anything is "you must be liked by everyone and nobody can perceive you to be a racist/blahblahist/phobe"? Mental. So yeah, when I see absolute bullshit, I'm an asshole, and no I don't care if you have a problem with it. I can't believe you unironically typed "yikes". Jesus that's cringe.
InkTheseNuts
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Damm, I hit on sombodies nerves here huh?
Almost feel sorry.

Although your "logic" doesn't really line up.
How can a leader be an asshole, yet do good leadership?
His action mirror himself and who he is, and so far and what is planned I ain't seeing any good.

Also it is funny how basically prove my point with the reaction part.
You believe I have some sort of mental crap, yet in reality, it is fact that he is racist, homophobe and transphobe.
And NOT because of "assumptions" but of proven facts over and over, including the result of his leadership from 16-20 and below and above that.
It is true that sometimes people throw that randomly with any good or proven facts, but in his case that is the point.
And please don't come with me "give me source" or something. This is the internet, move your own fingers for sources.
You apparently don't want it to be true, why so ever, but there is something called "research", I know brand new thing.
And even if we put those 3 things away, there is still a lot of crap on his shoulders and that you seem to just ignore because "the big media" is telling it.
You know, you could also do research without using big media, but since you seem to be stuck in your little bubble and don't wanna come out, I am not surprised by it.

It is really sad that somebody like you rather rage out like that, instead of having a decent discussion.
You really used to be cool, but now that I see who you truly are, I do not have any more interest regarding anything about you.
I really thought you would be one of those people that check-prove, be more in the middle of the two sides and then judge by the actions and such, and much more, but I guess I was wrong. Just sad, and yikes.

Also you do not need to reply. Already know that is mostly just you raging out and how everybody says the same thing and blablabla. Ironically you speak about "remove people from discussions and discredit everything they say" yet you do the same by saying stuff like "they have no meaning by *overusing* them" or smth.
Would be good if you think before writing. Difficult yeah, but possible.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I don't think you're in a position to talk about who is pissing off who XP.
InkTheseNuts
1 month, 3 weeks ago
True, cause it is obvious how pissed off you were by my and others comment that you started insulting, so there is no position needed.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
You think people need to be angry to use insults? For me to care what someone's judgement of anything is I first need to know and respect them. I neither know nor respect you, so I couldn't care less XP.
InkTheseNuts
1 month, 3 weeks ago
As much as you don't care about "my judgment" or what I say, you seem to care enough to reply.
Not just to me but others as well.
Also lovley how you got triggered when I said "yikes" and calling it "cringe" yet you use "XP" over and over. Yeah your position of judgment is clearly lower.
Ashkihyena
1 month, 2 weeks ago
I don’t think he’s  the one that’s triggered, chum.
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
some truth at the risk of a ban... tq+ people are also homophobic.

over the past 10 or so years, they've taken away everything that originally represented lgb people specifically to then co-opt and later repurpose into representing them instead of lgb people.

they've even gone so far as to claim transmen can be gay men and transwomen can be lesbians. which in turn revived the "you just chose to be gay" rhetoric lgb people spent decades trying to bring an end to.

they've even tried to co-opt and insert themselves into the very origins of what began as the gay rights movement and later became the lgb rights movement after bisexuals joined the movement.

it's at the point now where everyone knows "lgbtq+" doesn't speak for or represent lgb people.

and i'm pretty sure that, as long as the overtly sexual side of it is kept in the bedroom where it belongs, roarey probably doesn't care if someone's l, g, or b. hell, most people don't here in the west including THEISTS of all people!

as for the transphobia word... that's literally the exact same as antisemite and islamophobia. it's a word that was created and exists purely to frighten people into silence and punish them for speaking out and speaking the truth about something. out of fear of shunning and social scorn. it's a boogy man word tier buzzword at best that no one should fear.

so what if someone is a transphobe. that doesn't mean they fear tq+ people. it just means they don't support the ideology. it's not even an insult or derogatory term really. just something a group of people created to scare others into silence. that's all.
searchthedragon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
they can, this is so called freedom of speech which is US known for
as Polish man I don't care anyway about Yours president, we have our more liberal government
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
what you're describing as free speech is the very censorship leftists have been wielding as a cudgel for at least a DECADE now all across the internet.

bans and cancellations all across the internet for speaking the truth is NOT free speech! it is controlled and censored speech. if this is what you consider to be free speech, you wouldn't know actual free speech if it bashed you over the head!

ACTUAL free speech would be allowing me to say ANYTHING i want to say WITHOUT fear of being banned and/or censored!

but you people on the left have no idea what free speech actually is.

instead, i have no choice but to dance on fucking eggshells and practice self-censorship out of FEAR of being punished for the CRIME of speech!

THAT is free speech on the internet according to people like YOU!
searchthedragon
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I am not leftist, I do not care, but those people have right to think what they want even if they think they are wizards it's their live, not yours.
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
and i have just as much a right to think, believe, and say what i want to as they do. that's free speech.

they don't have a *right* to ban and censor people for saying things they disagree with. that isn't free speech.
searchthedragon
1 month, 2 weeks ago
they can but nobody care
this is their life decision not yours so piss off
quintisian27
1 month, 2 weeks ago
enough. you've made it clear that you only believe in one sided free speech just like leftists.

no one has a right to ban and/or censor people.

you're just here to cause trouble and goad people like me into giving angry reactions.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Censoring people is not others just living their lives, it is others directly messing with other peoples' lives. Nobody gets to decide that entire points of view deserve to be censored from public life, that whole groups of people need to stay away from discussions of whole subjects. You piss off.
quintisian27
1 month, 2 weeks ago
yep, and sadly the left have believed they have a right to ban, censor, and cancel people into silence for years while trying to gaslight and pass it off as a consequence of free speech.

they hate free speech and punish those of us who exercise our right to speak freely. been on the receiving end of that punishment for years, sadly. :(

my ability to speak on steam will be restored on jan 28, 2025...till the moderators lockdown my account yet again for not supporting the tq+ ideology. the latest ban? well, spoke truth about dragon age: the veilguard and broke no rules or guidelines while the ban reason was left blank.

steam's support staff refuse to help as they all support the ideology and only try to gaslight you into believing the system is purely automated and just happens on its own whenever and not as a direct result of moderators fing you over like that. they'll ban you for literally anything including opposing a harmful ideology. just like the rest of the internet.

worse yet, steam's support staff actually tried to get me to go to bioware's support staff so that i could grovel and beg to have the bane removed. hell no! the ban was applied on steam and steam is owned and run by valve. i'm not going to an entirely different company to appeal a ban that happened on YOUR platform, YOU handle it!

so, not only do the steam support staff lie and try to gaslight you and get you to follow the steam rules and guidelines even when following those rules and guidelines can get you banned on steam, now they're trying to get people to go to other companies support staff instead of steam's to handle things that happen on steam.

that place is the worst thing to ever happen to pc gaming. and iirc that games review rating on steam is stuck in the 70's% range cause valve's blocking people from switching positive reviews to negative. i'm surprised valve's moderators (the ones with the company logo next to their name) didn't setup another honeypot thread to further defend the game.

BUT at least we now know steam, sony, microsoft, and even nintendo don't actually sell video games at all now thanks to a law in commiefornia of all places. they just sell licenses (aka permission) to play video games. meanwhile, GOG actually DOES sell video games and with no drm! once you buy a copy of a video game from GOG, you have a copy of the installer (which even works if you use it offline) for as long as you want.

funny thing about that is that it means valve is running defense for a video game they're not even selling!

after all, companies now embrace the mantra of "you will own nothing and be happy". so, more and more of them are rejecting the concept of ownership entirely so that everything you exchange money for is a glorified rental.

good time to be a digital pirate since, is it actually theft when you're not buying the digital good you're pirating at any storefront or from any company in the first place?

and with nintendo now trying to weaponize patent law...we won't be seeing any good games being made for much longer if they succeed in that plan. and any new games we do get will likely just be propaganda like veilguard.
InkTheseNuts
1 month, 3 weeks ago
nope, but nice try
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
blocked. am i preventing you from speaking in any way? not at all. simply blocking what you say from my view.

leftists? they ban and/or permaban you. removing your ability to communicate outright.

is that the same thing? not at all. with a working block system we can both continue talking freely, just out of each others view, with our ability to do so unimpeded in any way. with a ban, you're removing a persons ability to communicate outright.

the latter is not free speech while the former is. most sites run by leftists opt for the latter at the first instance of a person not approving of leftist ideology and politics. and sadly, that's most of the internet now.

most sites and platforms are now run by censorious anti-free speech leftists who view free speech as a bad thing and an obstacle on the path to their goal of power and control. and that includes chat in online video games too!
InkTheseNuts
1 month, 3 weeks ago
quintisian27
quintisian27

You are preventing for me to reply to you.
Not you "from your view" but overall.
You are the definition of a hypocrite.

Also, you say stuff like "oh the leftist are block" Well, can you prove that? And also show WHY those people are being blocked?
You can write all that stuff, but actions have consequences.
In your whole paper toilet writing, everybody with a decent IQ can see that you simply can't handle the consequences of your own actions.
You say leftist as if they are like a cult and prevting people from speaking.
They don't do that. They simply just don't allow people to say stuff without consequences and not in case of "opinion" but in terms of saying stuff like n-word, racisism, homopbic, etc. stuff.
You act like they would silent you but they do not as long you act like a decent adult.
You know who actually does that?
Ironically, right wing people, like the NS, North Korea, or putin.
You say one wrong thing and you get send to jail or killed.

If you think that going around and saying hateful speech is "free speech" then you clearly don't know the concept of free speech.

There are concesquences for your actions, and instead of acccepting them, learning from your mistakes and be a better person you point at the people who care about others unlike you.
You prove over and over that what bothers you about this is that you cannot handle the consequences ofg your own actions, to the point that you point at others and say "UUUUUH THEY TAKE MY FREE SPEECHIOEEE" while you blocked me and therefore taking the ability to reply to you, which is the exact logic you are using.

You are a hypocrite and clearly not open for discussion.
Everytime anyone now sees you, they simply can't take you seriously.

Although, if free speech is about saying anyxthing you want, then let me share my opinion:

Nobody needs you, and the world wouldn't be in shambles if people like you weren't born.
And now you can't say anything to that, cause that would be against my free speech or wouldn't it? Sucks if your logic has loop holes huh?

Also you talk about how sites ban you and crap, yet you are still here, not banned but blocking people when they say something against you.
Like bro, was being a hypocrite your dream job?

Just say you can't handle your own consequences.

Also, by using your logic, I simply block you too, cause it isn't against free speech apperently.
Althiough, it is said to "ban user" from you.
But you don't like banning? ts ts ts.

Hypocrites. All the same. Yikes.
DaddyChee
1 month, 3 weeks ago
So where do you get this idea that Free Speech means free of consequences? You are free to say what you want, without the government going after you. That is all the freedom of speech is in the first amendment. It is not mean you get to say whatever you want, and people can't disagree with you, or if they own the platform, ban your ass. It's a private platform. Your freedom of speech does not apply there. They can  ban you from saying you wear red shoes and you can't do anything about it.

Also, even in america, freedom of speech has its limits with the government. For example, you cannot yell fire in a crowded theater. And then claim it was your freedom of expression. That is literally encased in law. Because what people like you don't seem to understand, is that right have responsibilities. That's how I was raised with a very conservative mother and father, but they always feed into me that when you have rights, you were supposed to responsibly wield them. And I know they weren't unique.
You seem to think that you have all the rights of freedom of speech, without the responsibility that comes with it. That just makes you a child. Or an idiot. You decide which.
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
lot of words to tell me you're anti-free speech and support censorship.

"freedom of speech isn't freedom of consequences"

NO FUCKING SHIT, SHERLOCKE!

you leftists have spent YEARS proving that the direct consequence of free speech is YOU people banning and censoring us into SILENCE when we say anything YOU disapprove of or voice dissent again leftist politics and ideology!

"For example, you cannot yell fire in a crowded theater."

one quick search shows that YES, it IS legal to do so in certain situations.

"No, yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is not necessarily illegal, but it could be, depending on the circumstances.

The First Amendment does not protect the right to falsely yell "fire" in a crowded theater to cause a panic. Depending on the circumstances, you could be charged with disorderly conduct. If someone is injured, you could be liable.

The First Amendment does protect your right to yell "fire" if there truly is one — or you truly believe there is — and you are trying to warn people of the danger so that they can get to safety.

And there are plenty of other instances in which uttering "fire" in a busy place could be perfectly OK under the First Amendment. Adele singing "Set Fire to the Rain" during a concert. Whispering "That movie looks fire" to your friend when you see an entertaining trailer. Even if someone disagrees with your assessment of the movie preview or does not like Adele’s music, these are all protected free expression. There is a very high bar to limiting free speech – much higher than simply disliking what someone says."

and yes, that's here in the US.

"Because what people like you don't seem to understand, is that right have responsibilities."

no, i DO understand my rights as a person and i also know DAMN WELL that you leftists LOVE trying to use OUR constitution and laws as a weapon against US citizens to silence and control us!

"You seem to think that you have all the rights of freedom of speech, without the responsibility that comes with it. That just makes you a child. Or an idiot. You decide which."

i can say whatever the fuck i want where i want. as is my RIGHT as an american! you have NO RIGHT to dictate to me what i can or cannot say or where i choose to say it you wannabe DICTATOR!

you have absolutely NO authority over me and have NO right to try and tell me what i can or cannot do and where! so, don't EVER try to act like you do!

and you have no right to try and RESTRICT my freedom of speech! it's a fucking CONCEPT! one you people are INCAPABLE of comprehending since your reaction is to ban and censor anyone who says anything you don't like into silence.

oh no, i said something someone doesn't like or approve of or that hurt a persons fragile AF emotions!

BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN!

THAT is YOUR gods damned "freedom of speech isn't freedom of consequences" BS! THAT is your consequences.

you don't give a DAMN about free speech if you believe it's "free speech except for..." because that is NOT free speech! it is controlled, restricted, and/or censored speech.
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I give you that one, with the idea of public versus private accommodations being discussed in the past.  Still, if you're a website that allows pornography and sex, even the extreme type, it would be totally hypocritical to ban political content of any type.  Furaffinity at least has adopted a policy of "no mixing minors and sex" in any form.  DeviantArt does not allow actual sexual intercourse to be shown.

In high school we were taught about several cases of speeches causing a crowd to become riled, and police telling the speaker to stop because of this.  These cases went up to the US Supreme Court when Earl Warren was chief justice.
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 2 weeks ago
This is pure drivel and you know it. Censorship of opinions has nothing to do with the practical realities of causing a public stampede with a lie about a threat that isn't there. As for consequences, this is a revolting obfuscation, pretending that all consequences for speech are equally justified, when the contention is not that speech has consequences, but rather what those consequences are. The left has decided it has the right to define any speech it does not like under the rubric of "hate speech", which is to be repressed, and this does not apply to anything people on the left say, regardless of how venomous and hateful it is. So we end up with the infantile state of affairs where you can say anything you want about white men, for example, but could absolutely never say the same things about black women, because that would be hateful.

So no, we are not in a situation where speech has "consequences", we are in a situation where the left's speech has every protection possible, where everyone else is "hateful" and needs to shut the fuck up. This is a situation you are happy with and are keen to take advantage of, because you lack honour, integrity and basic decency.
quintisian27
1 month, 2 weeks ago
really wish that hate speech bs had never spread across the internet. -_- no one can speak freely anywhere that has such a censorious rule in place for exactly the reasons you covered.

though i'd say you guys across the pond got it even worse as it can now sometimes get you arrested over there... for things typed out or spoken in a video...on the internet. just pure wtf.
opainderson
1 month, 3 weeks ago
hell yeah really hope Brazil follows suit
LongTom
1 month, 3 weeks ago
https://variety.com/2004/biz/columns/of-brits-and-brick...

In 2004 the British Guardian newspaper had its readers write to voters in Clark County, Ohio to tell them to vote against President Bush.  The response was not thank-you notes, and Bush got reelected easily.
SamanthaIndigo
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Bless you. <3
Woofajuana
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Love this! Funny how corporations made more money during Biden than Trump. Funny how Biden immediately stopped all covid payments that Trump gave us and dropped all covid protocols while also telling us we were not allowed the choice, not allowed the freedom of choice, that we were the enemies of the nation if we did not wish to fill our bodies with their untested poison. Funny how the "pro-union" president made striking illegal for the rail workers so they couldn't get unemployment and were forced back to work like slaves. Funny how Trump wasn't the one who told Americans that if we voted for more of his party, he would codify Roe vs Wade and then conveniently forgot when we voted for more of his party. And when people say Trump made RvW go away, it was not Trump who publicly stated he did not believe the government should pay for abortions, then EXACTLY 2 days later, came back with "abortions should be allowed regardless of anything and the gov should pay for it, sorry." That was Biden, right before he was elected. He hates abortions but he's not allowed to say it because the democrats do not allow free speech. Stay in the ranks, speak like the ranks, think like the ranks. He is the father of the war on drugs. America is in the birth of an awakening, embracing the medicines of nature once again. Biden would have gladly squashed it if he thought he could have gotten away with it. Same reason Obama didn't give us that freedom, only looked the other way. Big daddy was breathing down his neck. Oh, and Obama started the whole taking kids from their parents thing at the border, not Trump. Goodbye President House Plant. I will pick a narcissist that promises over time being taxed like regular time over a btch who tells me I'm a phobe and a racist because I want the money that I worked for, not someone else's! Funny how the middle class is squeezed the hardest by the democrats while the illegals and criminals on both extreme ends of the wealth bar are rolling in the dough. Somehow, the parties shadow swapped. It happened during Clinton, with their "10 cents on a dollar" donation law. Crazy to have lived long enough to see it happen. Good luck, Britain! Much love from the US.
DaddyChee
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Mein Gott!
 That's a lot of cherry picking there. More than, at this point, i care to break down, because whats the fucking point? You would dismiss it anyways with some derivatively quippy bit instead of actually trying to think in viewpoints that disagee with your political identity. Making facts fit your opinion, as opposed to making opinions fit the facts. I mean granted I give you credit: that's some amazing mental gymnastics. I'm surprised neurons haven't snapped from all the contortions.


Woofajuana
1 month, 2 weeks ago
I do not have a political identity. Other than "independent." I call it how I see it happening right in front of me. I am actually extremely left. I believe in police being held responsible for their actions. I believe in smaller government and 90% of regulations and laws being for business and government conduct instead of the people. I believe in free school lunches because it's not fair that our criminals are fed on tax payer dime but not our children. You have my "political identity" all wrong based on what infuriates me about the party I was told had my back. But they have done nothing but back stab. And the instant I show anger, people like you claim I'm doing "mental gymnastics" and claim I cannot be changed. Huh, projecting, are we? I would have voted for Bernie. I would have voted for John Fetterman. I would have voted Green Party. I would have voted literally ANY other, but the "others" were removed from the ballot by the democrats, not the republicans. Do not think you know me. <3
LongTom
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Ironically Bernie Sanders (an independent) was the one who spoke publicly about how the Democrats alienated the working people, while most Democrats seem to not realize Trump's victory was not because the American people were so stupid and ignorant, but because the Democrats ignored them and have not learned their lesson.

Nobody is complaining about kids being served lunches at school; we know many of them come from poor or abusive households.  Ironically they came up in the news last time when Michelle Obama tried making school lunches more nutritious and ended up making them inedible.  I am reminded of the Oz stories I read as a boy where one professor tried making "square meal pills" and they only got people angry with him.

And just because we hear "support the police" doesn't mean we view them as doing no wrong.  There was public outcry over several police officers having sent a boy back to serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer to be murdered, and everyone agreed they should have been fired, which they were.  Unfortunately their union sued the city and they had to reinstate the police officers because the city could not afford to fight them in court.  I live in Chicagoland and one policeman killed a young black man and the city covered it up for years until one judge finally forced the video of the incident to be released to the public.  Finally the police officer was punished and mayor Rahm Emanuel did not run for reelection.  President Obama said nothing because Emanuel had been his chief of staff beforehand.
Vesterpester
1 month, 3 weeks ago
MADE IT ON TO THE FRONT PAGE, KINGS!
Love this comment section. It’s the collective furry meltdown I expect to see, but didn’t really encounter, all on a single page.
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
InkTheseNuts
InkTheseNuts
:

"You say leftist as if they are like a cult and prevting people from speaking.
They don't do that."

they 100% do that and we have ALL been victims of it at some point.

"They simply just don't allow people to say stuff without consequences and not in case of "opinion" but in terms of saying stuff like n-word, racisism, homopbic, etc. stuff."

aka ban and censoring people into silence SPECIFICALLY because you don't APPROVE of or like what they said. NOT for any actual legit good reason.

"You act like they would silent you but they do not as long you act like a decent adult."

they do so as a direct result of people refusing to support leftist politics AND ideology.

"You know who actually does that?
Ironically, right wing people, like the NS, North Korea, or putin.
You say one wrong thing and you get send to jail or killed."

AND you leftists are included on that list. the past 8+ years have proven that to be the case to EVERYONE.

"If you think that going around and saying hateful speech is "free speech" then you clearly don't know the concept of free speech."

yes, hate speech IS LITERALLY part of free speech. you don't have to like what someone says but they are allowed to say it. that's how free speech WORKS!

"There are concesquences for your actions, and instead of acccepting them, learning from your mistakes and be a better person you point at the people who care about others unlike you."

aka say what we want you to say and what we approve of or else we're going to ban, censor, and cancel you into silence!

you people have been doing that for years. that's not a consequence of free speech, it's a punishment for exercising our RIGHTS as americans!

"You prove over and over that what bothers you about this is that you cannot handle the consequences ofg your own actions, to the point that you point at others and say "UUUUUH THEY TAKE MY FREE SPEECHIOEEE" while you blocked me and therefore taking the ability to reply to you, which is the exact logic you are using."

and here you are...still free as can be to say whatever you want. i have not prevented you from doing so in any way at all.

"Nobody needs you, and the world wouldn't be in shambles if people like you weren't born."

ah, projection. one of the most practiced skills you leftists love to use. right up there with gaslighting, propagandizing, and lying.

"Also you talk about how sites ban you and crap, yet you are still here, not banned but blocking people when they say something against you."

again, you're still free to say whatever you want.

"Just say you can't handle your own consequences."

again, the consequences you speak of are being banned, censored, and/or canceled into silence. not a consequence but a PUNISHMENT for exercising my RIGHT to speak freely.
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
since 2018...i've been punished for exercising my right to speak freely across the internet (mostly on steam which has led to my steam account being locked down numerous times...these last 4 times total to 50 weeks as a punishment for speaking in opposition to leftists)...like...30-40+ times now.

i follow rules and guidelines and i get banned.
i don't follow them and i get banned.
i refuse to toe the line, censor myself, and walk on eggshells so as to not offend leftists..i get banned.
i criticize something and i get banned.
i speak the TRUTH about something and i get banned.

this is flat out, full stop, NOT "CONSEQUENCES" OF SPEAKING FREELY! it is a PUNISHMENT for EXERCISING my RIGHT as a PERSON to speak freely!

it sends a crystal clear message that NO MATTER WHAT I SAY or WHERE or WHEN i CHOOSE to say it, i will be PUNISHED for the CRIME of having a voice and the RIGHT to speak freely!

that has been the crystal clear message to me across the internet for over HALF A DECADE now!

either i STFU and be silent or i get PUNISHED for DARING to speak AT ALL!

that is NOT consequences! that is PUNISHMENT! it is a censorious boot being repeatedly SLAMMED down upon my face! AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN!

and yet they DARE speak to me or anyone else they punish for exercising our right to speak freely about CONSEQUENCES for doing so.

that's an admission on their part that i am 100% CORRECT in what i am saying!

and if i get banned for saying this here too... thanks, staff, for reminding once again that i will be PUNISHED for the crime of SPEECH and that the concept of free speech is strictly forbidden.
quintisian27
1 month, 3 weeks ago
to clarify (since they don't seem to know the difference), me blocking these guys is a consequence.

me getting banned would be a punishment.

and no, that's not hypocrisy on my part at all.
InkTheseNuts
1 month, 3 weeks ago
quintisian27
quintisian27

I have never seen such a disappointing display of human before.

You act like you can't speak at all, yet you are yapping over and over.
Disproving your points over and over.
If that is the case, why haven't you banned yet? Because all you do is yapping and barely telling any truth? WOW, surprise!
You are a living hypocrite loophole, and I doubt you would be any better in the future.

Also
Would be great if I was wrong on that point, but hey, just MY opinion.
I mean you don't even go to some of my points which proves you have no arguments for them and simply just cross over them.

Also if you "follow rules" then you clearly haven't.
Would be cool to actually give facts, but of course there isn't any to begin with.

Also no, hate speech is not free speech. Funny how you put leftist in a pod and act like they are the evil, yet you say this crap.
Like bro. You don't know why you get banned over and over, yet if you have no problem with hate speech, that explains everything.

And since you put leftist in one pod, I can also do that to you, as it is your logic:
People like you are the problem of society.
You act like the victim yet do things you claim on others to do.
You do propaganda.
Allow stuff like hate speech and who knows what else.
And much more.

You are pathetic and nothing more.
You don't know empathy, rules, or anything.
You point the problems of yourself on others.

You are the living example of a hypocritcal moron.

Also, when are you going to explain to me, why you haven't been unbanned yet?
Avoiding the question here? ts ts ts. Typicall right wing move, as in your logic put.
quintisian27
1 month, 2 weeks ago
enough of this shit. how tf do i open a support ticket and report someone on this website? where have the staff hidden that function?

how many more fucking years of this ONE SIDED ABUSE do i have to keep enduring on the internet from the leftist BASTARDS who can say and do literally ANYTHING they want with ZERO consequences OR repercussions while I have to worry about being banned for pushing back against them?

how many more bans is it going to be? how many more?!

everywhere i fucking go on the internet, it is restricted and controlled speech. i can't say ANYTHING about them or their tq+ ideology without risking a ban because MUH HATE SPEECH which IS part of FREE SPEECH that they PUNISH us for using!

what ISN'T hate speech?! EVERYTHING a leftist or tq+ person disapproves of is HATE SPEECH and grounds for a ban or permaban. EVERYTHING!

you SERIOUSLY think, after a decade, of being told i am not ALLOWED to speak freely on the internet by you leftists that i don't understand that you people have strictly FORBIDDEN free speech across the internet?

i have been banned for FOLLOWING your fucking rules. for NOT following your fucking rules. for "   " reason. for absolutely ANY reason at all that a moderator CHOOSES to ban me for REGARDLESS of rules and guidelines.

I FUCKING GET IT! I FUCKING GET IT! I CAN AND WILL BE BANNED FOR ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING AND THAT SPEECH ITSELF IS A CRIME ACCORDING TO YOU LEFTISTS!

you have spent YEARS making that CRYSTAL CLEAR!

you're the most hateful, racist, bigoted, censorious people ever to exist in the history of the human species. and it is NEVER enough. 24/7 you leftists project all of that OUTWARDS onto all of us claiming WE'RE the bad ones who are doing and saying everything YOU YOURSELF say and do.

roarey...i have never liked using this word to describe anything or anyone...but there is one group of people...one alone...more deserving than hitler, hitlers nazis, and even chairman mao himself who are deserving of being described as such FAR more...

these leftists are the very definition and epitome of EVIL INCARNATE!

no one has EVER been worse than THESE people!

and they are not demons. they are not possessed by evil spirits. they are not devils acting through humans. they themselves ARE humans!

every single day they continue to exist justifies my eternally seething misanthropy. they are the absolute worst imaginable thing the human species has ever brought into this world bar NOTHING! nothing else comes REMOTELY close!
ZwolfJareAlt306
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Support Tickets are under Help at the bottom left of any IB web page.

Submitting a link to the particular abusive comment can help staff take action more efficiently. To copy a comment link, right click on the comment's "link" button and then click "copy link" in the pop up.

All the best to you!
quintisian27
1 month, 2 weeks ago
thank you
quintisian27
1 month, 2 weeks ago
hey, inkbunny staff...could you please invest in a proper block system instead of a typical western half assed one?

you know, one that fully blocks both sides of it from interacting and seeing each other entirely? or is that asking too much?

the last, and only, time i ever saw a proper block system implemented was back when sega still had the pso2 forum up on the games official website.

you block someone there and both people had each others profiles, posts, post history, PM's, and everything else blocked from view on both sides.

that's what an ACTUAL "block system" is supposed to be and do. sadly, almost ALL websites and platforms in the west WON'T do that even though they most definitely can do it.

the west prefers arguing and fighting each other instead of peace! and so western websites and platforms put a filter over posts that you can click to remove or only block PM/DM's or simply don't notify of replies.

that's not a block system at all if it doesn't block people.
InkTheseNuts
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Always funny to see somebody crying over and over of having "no free speech" yet you can clearly see what kind of people they are and that basically their free speech is nothing but hate speech.
And if that is "everything" they can say... yikes.

Such shame display of people are always fun to watch, especially when triggered like little crybabies.
Also, lovely how those exact people keep shoving their problems at others and pointing their fingers at them.

Typical and classic. Oh boy.
ZwolfJareAlt306
1 month, 2 weeks ago
This behavior of yours right here explains Trump's victory.

We're tired of being screamed at for not getting scared when you tell us to.
Ashkihyena
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Hey
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
looks like you’ve caused a mega meltdown (like the above poster) with this piece.  Excellent work.

InkTheseNuts
1 month, 2 weeks ago
"Meltdown"
I am enjoying how a crybaby keeps shoving their problems over and over to others, seeing no reason to take consequences to their actions, desperately wants to tell how hate speech is "free speech", and shows his expression in extreme, and *I* am the one having a meltdown?

Yikes, somebody is desperate for attention to the point, that they have to mention the creator of this here.
Not really surprising.
Ashkihyena
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Thanks for continuing to prove my point.

https://youtu.be/Gpc_vF3e2PE?si=h5UsDbVRBjPoetQ1
InkTheseNuts
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Aha.

So I am questioning why I am the one with the meltdown, then did a little silly at the end with facts, and you call this a "meltdown"?

Damm. And I thought that one was attention-craving.
But hey, I understand that you have no good arguments in the first point. Normally people just ignore and leave, but eh, you are different.
Different is not always a good thing, as for you for an example, but maybe next time.

Sadly probably won't reply to you, cause I can't give somebody like you that much attention.
We don't want you to overdose, of course
RoareyRaccoon
1 month, 2 weeks ago
You're just here to antagonise people, clearly.
Ashkihyena
1 month, 2 weeks ago
As I said, clearly melting down like a faulty nuclear reactor.

Honestly?  If I were you I’d report the guy, cause yes, he’s clearly here to just start trouble.
Ashkihyena
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Hey InkTheseNuts, keep coping and seething.  https://youtu.be/a8MZBUoQt68?si=jdBmxlKnSBPMuU5G

Again
RoareyRaccoon
RoareyRaccoon
excellent work on making these guys meltdown, with visible proof might I add.
GreenFr00g
1 month, 2 weeks ago
I envy you now;;;
RobbieWallace
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Wow, too many comments here of lefties cry a lot, they are so pathetic, failures, insignificant, stupid, ignorant, uneducated, sick, and above all, bad people.
Admit it lefties, you lost, good luck next time 👋🏻
LongTom
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Even US Senator Bernie Sanders had the sense to say publicly that Trump won because the Democrats had abandoned the working class people of America.  (He is an independent BTW.)
RobbieWallace
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Democrats treat people like fools, use celebrities and pop singers to attract the attention of youth, They put forward a black woman as a candidate to attract the attention of women and African Americans, but they never think that what really matters are the proposals and the results.
LongTom
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Actually Harris was dark skinned, but she was as black as Al Jolson.  In Chicago they voted a black lesbian as mayor, but she was so awful even the progressives hated her and she was ousted after one term.

At the very least you would think the Democrats would realize that nobody wants to elect someone who insults their constituents.
AxleFurret
1 month, 2 weeks ago
The Democratic party really fucked up.

Running an unpopular candidate by "installation" instead of a Democratic primary.

Gaslighting people into believing the economy is doing great for 4 years because of "Muh GDP" only to "flip-flop" i nthe last few months.

Completely alienating men as toxic "woman haters".

Trying to run a candidate on gender and "whatever flavor of minority status this week" instead of policy.

Trying to run a candidate that couldn't talk without a teleprompter.

Basically saying they will FIX things that for the last 4 years they told us were NOT broken, but will only do it AFTER being voted for a 2nd time.

Being so "pro-war" that they might as well be "Neo-Cons" from the late 90s and early 2000s.

When the ACTUAL "neo-cons" Like "Mitt Mormon Dog On Roof Romney" and "Dick Iraq War Shoot You In The Face Cheney" endorsed the DEMOCRATS, the Democrats accepted them with open arms when they should have told them loudly and publicly to "FUCK OFF!"

Running a candidate that as a DA kept non-violent, victimless "drug offenders" in jail past their constitutional release window in "For Profit Prisons" that she had stock options in, to the point she was sued by the Supreme Court to let them go.

Completely being out-of-touch with the poor, middle, and working-class people for their not-so-private big-money interests in defense contractors, and the likes of Google, Microsoft, and Big Pharma... While at the same time saying she "wouldn't change a thing Biden did".

Running a candidate that is fake and changes her accent like Hilary did depending on their perceived notions of the stereotypes of the state or people she is talking to.

Basically telling people they are bigots and racist if they don't vote for their installed, non-democratic candidate.... Basically "FUCK YOU! Now vote for us or FUCK YOU even more!"

LOL

My god... The democrats have managed to be worse than the republican neo-cons of the late 90s and early 2000s while copying almost everything they did back then other than border control, to the point Mitt-Freaking-Romney and Dick-Shotgun-To-The-Face-Cheney were welcomed with open arms to the new "big Business" and "pro War" democrat "establishment" party.



Of all the words of mice and men... Trump and Bernie Sanders were right again!
LongTom
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Blacks and Latinos typically don't vote Republican, but they voted for Trump in record numbers this year.  Kamala Harris was a district attorney and they are known for putting innocent people into prison.  Certainly they must have gotten the idea, and when Obama chastised black men for not supporting Harris, they laughed at him.  It didn't help that Obama wasn't like most other black Americans-his father was a Kenyan national who deserted him while he was raised by his white relatives, and he did not live in poverty.
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