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This is Ferdie Fox, from what is likely the only episode of 'Casper the Friendly Ghost' most reading this have ever seen (thanks to Doug Walker). :p

For those who want to see Ferdie in action, click the link below (link tested 10/24)2021).

TRIGGER WARNING (violent, animal death): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQBRywnHS60

Yes, Ferdie is a ghost, and as such, fits the Halloween theme One-Cent ACO takes on this time of year (sorta). ^^

Pencil...

The featured pencil is an unsharpened,  WWII-era pencil with The Lord's Prayer printed on it (round barrel).

Here is the prayer exactly as it is written on the pencil,

"Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. -Matt.6:9-13."

Reads like the traditional King James version. :3

Paper-ferrule'd pencils of this sort were made late into WWII, beginning around 1943. I do not (as of writing) know when metal ferrules made their return (rationing did not end immediately after the war---it was a process), though I do have a metal-ferrule pencil I can verify was made around 1947.

I chose this pencil because this prayer is often recited at funerals (I doubt Ferdie's would be an exception) ...as well because God is as alive and well during this season as in any other (contrary comments will be met with silence---I have the right to believe as I wish to). :3

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Published: 1 month, 1 week ago
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Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
I knew the name was familiar. The minute you mentioned Casper I remembered, however vaguely. I can't decide whether that was the saddest cartoon I ever saw or the one where little Audrey shoots a baby bird.
IceAgeChippies
1 month, 1 week ago
So much sadness in the world. :(
Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
I have to agree.

To discuss it further however would bring us into philosophical discussions of suffering and metaphysics.
IceAgeChippies
1 month, 1 week ago
Such a dreadful conclusion! D:
Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
Not at all. Its completely natural.

The next question is: why do we suffer? Why do we die?

If you say we don't really die but somehow live after or are resurrected, then we have to contend with metaphysical assertions.

Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
If you say suffering is "necessary" we get into discussions of why it would be necessary. This would get us into a metaphysical discussion of Gods intentions and what necessities he's subject to.

Everything will eventually lead to philosophy, if you want to actually dissect an issue.
IceAgeChippies
1 month, 1 week ago
I know you feel ignored because I haven't replied to your note yet. Fact is (this will read ruder than I mean it) I'll get to it when I get to it. You're ...actually not the only person I'm curt/short-worded with. Hence I said I would make a public statement intended to 'reply' to everyone at once.
To do that, I need to make art, write an article and so on and so forth. Presently, I'm focusing on other things---I'm deliberate and (even) sluggish, but I always deliver. Just please be patient.
Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
This has nothing to do with that. I'm not rushing you. I'm just having a conversation, a topical one. Both those cartoons deal with death. No one has a good explanation for it ... and I do mean no one. No human anyway. This is just the way I am Chippie.
IceAgeChippies
1 month, 1 week ago
<3
Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
I'm sorry. I know I can be a little brutal with my logic. That's why I just wanted to say "I agree it's sad" and not get into it. It's not a simple issue why we suffer. It really gets to the heart of everything about the human experience.
Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
I just understood what you meant. When you first mentioned public reply I thought you meant a comment on my submission. Consider me intrigued. Don't worry I won't push you. Believe me I know something of what that is like. I may not be much of presence as a furry but I am pretty well known by another identity in another community, and I actually get my attention demanded quite frequently.
IceAgeChippies
1 month, 1 week ago
<3
Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
Of course we could also just be sad and not think too hard about it. It also saddens me, but I can not help but think about it too.
Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
Also, saying you're sad over and over again isn't very interesting conversationally. It's got no where to go after that basic observation.

But if you think there is something I'm missing, I will certainly listen.
IceAgeChippies
1 month, 1 week ago
The problem of pain is quite ancient. :(

Personally, I think most suffering falls into one of three categories:

The self-imposed
Conflicts of interest (politics, tyranny, etc)
The natural (psychological, disease, death and so forth)

Simplistic, but it works for me.

I'd write about hope here, but I'm not wanting to discuss religion/belief. I know you like this sort of discourse, and you know that upsets me (conflict of interest). I do not wish to suffer, but I do ...and it seems I will.
Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
I think your taxonomy is sound. The first two are self-explanatory I think. It's obviously the third one I'm talking about that leads to all sorts of very deep metaphysical discussions because it deals with the ultimate nature of reality and if it could have been any other way.
Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
"I know you like this sort of discourse, and you know that upsets me (conflict of interest)"

yeah that sums up our dilemma perfectly. I try to not let that come between us though. I hope you feel the same.
IceAgeChippies
1 month, 1 week ago
I'm not replying anymore (for my sake and yours). :3

You know I'm autistic with a low IQ and little education; I cannot offer anything of value, neither am I able to challenge you. Additionally, I'm not impressed: there's hardly a soul on this site who's less educated or as bereft of prospects as I am---in light of that, there's nothing you can offer me either: pearls before swine, it is! D:

You know, also, I'm an older person in ill health. I don't know why you persist with me. Perhaps I should be more explicit (though that's not my way)?
Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
You know I can't claim any specific illness but there is probably something wrong with me too. Its more like a mental compulsion. Sometimes I even know I'm being a bother and I can't help going into a long diatribe of some sort. I've had a few of my comments deleted because of concerns of it devolving into arguments on some difficult and divisive topic where as the poster wanted to keep it light hearted.

Art for me is something to degenerate discussion, not avoid it, but not everyone agrees. Some think it should just be "entertainment" (whatever that is suppose to mean. For me the dissection is part of the entertainment)

I have no idea what IQ I have. Id like to think I'm intelligent, but I know there are far smarter and able minded individuals out there. Mostly when I get told I'm intelligent its really a backhanded compliment. Its treated as a hassle to others. In other words, stop being so smart. I get accused of being arrogant a lot too. So whatever "intelligence" I do possess, is at very least a curse. Unfortunately you and I fall into this same problem. You find me discussing or making arguments somehow as an attack against you personally. Mostly it has to do with me trying to figure things out for myself. I also just enjoy a discussion that actually gets to making new points instead of continuously rehashing old ones. But you seem to find such discussions antagonistic by their very nature.

I don't want to start an actual fight with you, but I really have no idea what you mean by you are "not impressed". I'm just going to say it so there is no further misunderstanding. Do you mean you are not impressed with me? With my sophomoric arguments? Or something else? When you say things like this I have gotten annoyed about it before but I'm not interested in having an ego here. I just want to have some kind of understanding with you, that's all. Even if we disagree in the end. I think being argued against helps sharpen ones own understanding of the world by incorporating different viewpoints, but you seem to fundamentally disagree with this sort of epistemology.

I hope you don't take this as hostility. All I can offer is, I will try to my best to chill out. Even though you didn't extend the olive branch in return, I know that you also are trying not to let this come between us. Thank you for that.

So, peace?

FoxyCubLover
1 month ago
Sounds a bit like me at times! LOL
Kelpacko
1 month, 1 week ago
I remember this 3 days ago when eddache did a video on if Casper was born a ghost or just a dead child.
IceAgeChippies
1 month, 1 week ago
I've wondered myself. I may Google that later (thx). :3
Zivrshka
1 month, 1 week ago
On a lighter note, I do remember crying quite a lot to the Little Audrey cartoon. I even got kind of sad thinking about it not too long ago, as it happens (I'm going through a lot, it really doesn't take much to make me want to cry). Oddly though, I don't remember how I felt about this cartoon. I must have cried. I must have felt sad. I think I loved Ferdie, and the ending can't completely take away the very real thing that happens to him. It amazes me they made cartoons like this. Honestly though ... I think it's a good thing. These two cartoons and Charolette's Web are important cartoons kids should be exposed to. Death exists, we all have to deal with it. I don't believe in this silly sheltering notion for children.
zfqfmb
1 month, 1 week ago
Does that make it sacrilegious to sharpen?
IceAgeChippies
1 month, 1 week ago
Oh, absolutely! XD
ShiftyGuy1994
1 month ago
You did a great job on this :3 But yeah, it is a sad moment in the series
IceAgeChippies
1 month ago
I'm glad you like. :3
ShiftyGuy1994
1 month ago
I do like the drawing :3 But not what happens in the series lol
IceAgeChippies
1 month ago
I understand. It's a difficult episodes to watch, hence the trigger warning.

That said, I grew up on cartoons like this, as I'm sure you did, too.
ShiftyGuy1994
1 month ago
Right. And yeah so did I, clearly lol. Granted, I wasn't born when half of the cartoons I watched, were made. But I grew up watching them, instead of what was new back when I was young. The 00's cartoons were new when I was a kid. But I was raised with 80's and 90's stuff. So while I do like some 00's cartoons (and a VERY select few 10's cartoons), the 80's and 90's were the golden age of cartoons if I say so myself.
IceAgeChippies
1 month ago
The most modern cartoons I can watch (that I have any appreciable experiences with) are Paw Patrol and Gumball.

Bluey I can handle in small doses, but I honestly haven't checked on her since I drew her card. :p
ShiftyGuy1994
1 month ago
Yup! Those two cartoons I can watch, without having any sort of cringe or anything. I also love the cartoons Doki (2014) and Mini Wolf/Mini Loup (2012). And there's one cartoon from this era (20's) that I like too. Which is Elinor Wonders Why. But anything else other than those 5 cartoons, there's nothing else recent that grabs my attention really. I'm mostly a 80's, 90's, and 00's cartoon guy lol
IceAgeChippies
1 month ago
FoxyCubLover
1 month ago
Ferdie is a cute character. That cartoon you linked to is nice but ancient. (1948) There is a Ferdie fox in the Rupert the Bear stories too btw.
IceAgeChippies
1 month ago
The cartoon is yet more recent than the featured pencil. ^^

I'm not much into Rupert, albeit Rupert and the Frog Song WAS on my draw/Re-view list.
FoxyCubLover
1 month ago
Rupert cartoons vary a lot depending on the incarnation. What do you do with those old pencils?
IceAgeChippies
1 month ago
They're organized and stored in 2x8 acid-free zip bags, in various drawers and containers.
FoxyCubLover
1 month ago
Do you just store them?
IceAgeChippies
1 month ago
Mhm
FoxyCubLover
1 month ago
Why do I get the feeling you hoarding old pencils and clinging to an old flip phone are somehow related? ;-)
IceAgeChippies
1 month ago
I'm an old soul.
FoxyCubLover
1 month ago
Really?
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