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It takes a special kind of desperation to admit your fears- but it's often the kind laced with hope because you feel things could be better, provided you take a chance.
That was then. Back in the present, we see a guy down on his luck, trying to see any sort of light at the end of the tunnel, and it's not there. I don't get the vitriol against Cooper. He's not a bad guy- just someone who needs help and has his own personal fears and self-doubts. And I like that Andy can see that... even if the audience doesn't want to.
It takes a special kind of desperation to admit your fears- but it's often the kind laced with hope
Know why the vitriol? Because having your own fears and insecurities and lack of luck does not gives you permission to being a shitty person. It sets up a logical chain as to why you are, but it's still neither permission nor reason.
Know why the vitriol? Because having your own fears and insecurities and lack of luck does not gives
So you give a serious response detailing the actual hardship that is admitting ones fears... then tell someone ELSE to stop taking it seriously for giving a serious response that hardship does not give carte blanche permission for being a dick?
I do hope you can see that is a bit hypocritical.
So you give a serious response detailing the actual hardship that is admitting ones fears... then te
The difference is that my reaction doesn't suggest that a fictional character has somehow wronged me, and so at no point have I expressed that this story somehow effects me personally. All I did was offer my opinion why I felt he was a compelling character with interesting motivations. Having read through this already I can already say that Cooper's struggles are interesting to watch/read about, and nothing about his actions suggests that the character is irredeemable, either.
But anyway, given that Mr. Skies response oddly mirrors several other responses on various forums (down to the "shitty person" referral), I'm inclined to believe it's just one person raising a fuss and taking the story way too personally. It's one thing to enjoy how a character, even an antagonist, has been written; quite another to get riled up over them so strongly.
So... no, I don't see how my response was hypocritical just because you assumed his response was similar, when it wasn't.
The difference is that my reaction doesn't suggest that a fictional character has somehow wronged me
I think you are assuming way more than I am. You are assuming his response was personal to begin with. Your evidence suggested? That a few people called the character a "shitty person"?
yah, cooper is a 'shitty person'. Not irredeemably so, but in a market saturated with characters that have little to no actual arc it isn't entirely out of the ballpark to assume he won't evolve past that persona, especially given the tendency of writers to (lazily) just add in justification for bad behavior as if that in itself redeems the character. Now, I am personally not making the claim that Jackaloo is going to do that, but I can see why others would believe he might.
Though I am being generous and trying to assume I have misread what you said by, what seems to me, to be an implication that everyone who has called the character a "shitty person" is secretly just a single guy. That would be conspiratorial int he extreme, so could you please elaborate what you meant?
I think you are assuming way more than I am. You are assuming his response was personal to begin wit
He did not admit it was vitriol coming from HIM. He was responding to you who called it vitriol. To quote you: " I don't get the vitriol against Coope"
You cannot hold him using your own language when explaining something to you, and you especially cannot claim motivations he himself has not said for merely using the language that you used in a response to you.
He did not admit it was vitriol coming from HIM. He was responding to you who called it vitriol. To
Yeah, I didn't care enough to hear a response after you butted into a conversation that wasn't your business to begin with, and kept it going for a couple of hours. I've got better things to write about .
Yeah, I didn't care enough to hear a response after you butted into a conversation that wasn't your
You really need to stop taking fiction so seriously.
*sees how seriously you took this afterwards*
Wow. There's no need to be defensive from someone explaining a motive for what you see as shitty behavior. They might be wrong, and the behavior might still be shitty, but that's where logical counterarguments come into play (as opposed to ad hominem like my hypocritical "no need to be defensive" remark).
By the way, my comments about Summer's Gone are purely my own and are only posted from this account (currently named cincizra) on Inkbunny.
~~~ Quote by kajex: You really need to stop taking fiction so seriously. ~~~ *sees how seriou
I'm super interested in Cooper and Andy's relationship. It's super complex and dynamic, considering the way Cooper acts in the "present day" of The Internship. Like... I could genuinely write a bona-fide analysis of Cooper's trajectory as a character in this story.
(Sincerely, a masters-level English student who reads far too much into his furry fiction)
I'm super interested in Cooper and Andy's relationship. It's super complex and dynamic, considering