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No Man's Sky

So, yeah, I've heard all the drama about this game, and yep, it was WAY over-hyped and over-priced, with minimal features and poor performance, and blatant false advertising. It's good to see the gaming community FINALLY doing something about the crap that gaming companies have been giving them lately, rather than bending over and taking a big EA dong right up the Origin for as long as they have been. I doubt we'll see much significant change out of this, unfortunately. Same over-hyping, on-release DLC, withholding content to sell separately, buggy releases, game-breaking updates, ridiculous refund time limits.... I could go on all day.

Anyway... No Man's Sky has been updated. There's a new base-building feature that I haven't gotten very far into yet, but it looks like you'll be able to hire aliens from space stations to work at your base to mine, farm, and research. Though they seem desperate for a job, you don't have to pay them anything.... welcome to Trump Tower X3 Also you can teleport to your home base from any space station. You can also build save points, or a signal booster anywhere to help you find manufacturing plants, base sites, resource deposits, and drop pods.

The resource mechanics have been changed. Carbon no longer charges everything. You need either power cells, which now require plutonium to make, or thaumium for your life support, you can still charge your mining laser with carbon, and you can now recharge your hazard protection with shielding shards or zinc, and you charge your pulse engine with... iron?! Sentinels no longer give you titanium but instead give you some unique material I haven't seen a use for yet, and destroyed ships always drop "tropheum". The best thing about the resource tweaks though, is that you can actually scan planets from space, and it shows you what materials you can find there, so you don't have to waste time searching each and every planet for that one thing you're missing anymore. One big problem I seem to be having with this, though is that apparently COPPER SEEMS TO BE THE MOST RARE MATERIAL IN THE FUCKING UNIVERSE!!! DX

Those big freighters you see floating in space are now much more interesting. You can now dock with them and talk to the captain, and buy the freighter from him. I haven't tried this yet. It's super expensive, but the inside of the freighter looks fucking awesome, though there's a significant performance drop when I'm inside one. It looks like eventually you'll be able to build a base inside the freighter. Pirates will still occasionally attack them, but the freighter will now defend itself with the turrets, and if you wipe out the pirates, you can then talk to the captain and he'll give you some free antimatter and warp cells, which is great because it's also more difficult to find the thaumium you need to make a warp cell than in the previous version of the game.

Performance has been increased slightly. It's still crap for me on medium settings, but on low it seems to run just fine, with a noticeable drop inside the freighters. That annoying achievement pop-up is still a thing. A little worse now actually, because there are new achievements for increasing your relationship with the three alien species, and you still can't enter your ship until it goes away.

So yeah the game has been significantly improved, but I'd still advise against buying it until they fix some bugs, add more features, and drop that $60 price tag. I'm having tons of fun with it though, and if you do buy it, I'd say get it from GoG. That way you can back-up those updates, and go back to a previous version if they end up breaking the game again later.
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Added: 7 years, 4 months ago
 
eeveefan
7 years, 4 months ago
the one thing your forgetting is unlike games like destiny, no mans sky HAS a dedicated team willing to LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY. thus its why they released so many patches and fixed so much in the game, even adding more into the game as well. and they have NO MICROTRANSACTIONS!

ive been playing battleborn and its filled with microtranactions, pitiful credit earnings and their selling exp boosters for REAL MONEY, so their basicly looking for any means to milk more money out of your wallets. I might sell battleborn honestly since I cant stand the amount of garbage in that game.

but going back to no mans sky, as ive said the developers are listening to the community and are working to make more features and stuff added into the game. (and yes freighters are expensive, I got one for 7m.)
so yeah they have a dedicated team that listens to the community, aka something destiny will NEVER have.

id rather pay 80 for no mans sky then to pay 75 + 35+ 40 + 40 for destiny with repeat enemies, reskinned enemies, lazy level designs, trying to hype armor drops, trying to con people into getting the dlc by pawning off a op weapon from season 1, selling the ghallerwing sparrow for 25 dollars in the shop, lazy boss designs, lack of and little story line (and no im not going on their main site just to read those shit grimwire cards!), developers who don't care about the community, lack of story for the rise of iron..... the list goes on.
Yusufa
7 years, 4 months ago
while i dont entirely disagree, No mans sky devs did go dead silence for months before any significant changes, despite a massive public out cry for answers. No apologies, no information on whats getting worked on, nothing, suddenly they drop this update and make the game better but still, so much silence...
As for Destiny, yeah they kinda ran it like shit for year 1, year 2 was a fair improvement, and now year 3 is again fairly solid and much more what an MMO FPS should look like. I bought in on year 2 so i got all the DLC reasonably priced. Thing is, they need to look more closely at MMOs like WoW, where yes every expansion is expensive, but holds a massive amount of content. From the sounds of it Destiny 2 will fix a lot of problems, the devs admitted fully that they fucked up, the game was built from the ground up poorly and while they can patch it up, the terrible ground work is still there. So for the next game they are rebuilding everything so from day one is should be better than currently. As well as they arent going to do that double tiny DLC bullshit again like they did with their first one. Hopefully that means Destiny 2 will follow a much better path, base game, year later expansion, etc.
eeveefan
7 years, 4 months ago
hate to disappoint but the damage in destiny has already been done, theres no such thing called destiny 2.
also your forgetting its activision.. they fail in every aspect and only care about money. the content in the rise of iron is not solid, not even fairly solid. have you even seen what was in the game?

reskinned enemies (aka the fallen)
poor storyline (if any at all)
you fight sepkis prime (a carbon copy of him for the new social space)
the iron ghallahorn (aka something to pawn the game off so people will buy it.)
new armors (woop de fricken doo we had this all along, no hype there)
new weapons (hooray more crappy weapons)
"new" raid (aka more of something people will say I don't have the levels for and refuse to teach me how to do)
one "new" strike (I bet its more or less the same enemy or enemies combined into a bullet sponge they threw in our faces)
slapping the major dlc on a disc and marketing it for a full retail price of 80 dollars and don't you tell me they didn't do this. the original disc was 75, taken king was 80 and the rise of iron is also 80 (I live in Canada so that's the prices here). I KNEW from the very beginning they were going to do this.

with all the crap they are shooting out their ass id be surprised if there was destiny 2. I have given up on the game and its taking up 51gb of memory on my playstation. im hoping the game dies because the team at activision deserve the game dieing off from all the failed content they released. honestly no mans sky is better and I say that with confidence.

not tryin to argue but its what it is.
Yusufa
7 years, 4 months ago
rise of iron has been a big step forward in the game, and as for desinty 2, it is happening, the devs are very clear on it now, and they have very much admitted to their fuck ups, yes activation is shit but bungie is trying their best to make due
eeveefan
7 years, 4 months ago
rise of iron.... a big step forward...?
excuse me I have to laugh.
idk if your a fanboy or not but ive pointed out the obvious so I don't really know why your defending the game. the rise of iron was 40 dollars, way more then what they should have asked for, the price should have been 15 at the most and no more then that. we got even less content then the taken king and more repeat things in the game, idk what your standards are for making "a big step forward" but this isn't a big step forward, its 5 big steps backwards.
and if bungie even wants this game to be a success then they will take the rights from activision and do it properly. AND not to mention if they admitted that the game was indeed a big fuck up then we should be refunded the full amount we paid for the games dlc and content at release. even the rise of iron and taken king. I put that much into a game only to have them still completely fuck it up, it was nothing but a cash grab from the beginning. I do not have high hopes for this so called "destiny 2" you have to earn trust with your buyers and if you fuck up even one time it can bite you in the ass.
Yusufa
7 years, 4 months ago
I'm no fan boy, but I can see the improvements that have been made, sure they do a lot of skinning but who doesnt?
Both taken king and iron were good, maybe closer to $20 good, but they certainly were better than the first 2 dlcs. As for story, both DLCs actually have a good, solid, interesting story to follow. I am positive that Destiny 2 will be much better.
As for refunds, why? You don't refund a product that didnt live up to expectations, but still sold fairly well. Lots of people still play it and it has made them a lot of money, but they have heard the complaints and each dlc was fixing some of them. but as they have said the groundwork of he game is to damaged to truely fix it and they plan to remake the game for destiny 2.
I understand for those that bought in on year 1 its been a massive money drain for little gain, but trust me it could be way worse, and as for MMO standards, its a cut above many of them.
eeveefan
7 years, 4 months ago
I spent 82 + 35 + 40 and got little to like in the game.
who doesn't do reskins? bloodborne, unlike destiny, bloodborne has new enemies in each area and has unique ways they attack and be countered.
destiny what do you got?
fallen
hive
cabal
vex
taken (aka reskins of enemies we been fighting with more annoying abilities)
the "new" fallen enemies (aka more reskins with no difference between them and the regular fallen)
bosses are just bullet sponges of enemies we fought throughout the entire game with very little acceptions like oryx.
the dlc wasn't fixing anything, it was leeching more money off us to "attempt" to fix something that was broken to badly to begin with.
"the groundwork of he game is to damaged to truely fix it and they plan to remake the game for destiny 2."
they shouldn't have released it in the first place if it was that damaged!!!
they released it as a fricken CASH GRAB. they KNEW full well that the system was broken as you clearly said right there yet they decided to put that pile of garbage out in hopes to leech money off people and sucker them into the game!

it doesn't take a lot of effort to come up with different enemies and different patterns of attacks. they took the lazy route and decided "fuck the players were making this a cash grab game, we will lie to them and leech money out of them"
upon release of the first disc was it worse then no mans sky? hell yes it was.
ALSO I need to mention this to. origionally when the taken king was being released they said at E3 that the taken king was going to be released on a separate disc, and to play it you need to buy the second disc as the first main disc wouldn't be compatible and would become useless at the release of the taken king. they got ALOT of threats and backlash from that so they decided to put it into dlc and release it separate even defending the 40 dollar price tag on the dlc.
so to sum it up you paid 75 for the first disc plus tax, the taken king would come out, the disc would be useless so youd need to throw it away wasting 75 dollars on it, then you needed to get the new taken king disc for 80 dollars plus tax so around 92 dollars.
destiny: 75
taken king: 80
rise of iron: 80

that's what its been so far.
Yusufa
7 years, 4 months ago
it still had more content than no mans sky, always has, and i could spend way more time on it to boot. but this i the same argument i seem to have with most the early adopters of destiny. Yes, you guys got screwed over, i get it. If you feel that screwed then by all means drop it, but i saw how questionable the game was before release, i didnt touch it, and reviews backed me up on that. I picked it up during taken king and have no regrets. So if you don't want to play it anymore fine, dont want to play destiny 2 when it comes out, also fine, but it gets tiring to hear the constant ragging on the game.
Honestly they should have gone the FF14 route, see how screwy the game is from the start, nuke the world, and rebuild everything. which has raised them to one of the top MMOs besdie WoW, but likely they were under contract with activsion so not a lot they could have done other than push forward and try and polish the game.
eeveefan
7 years, 4 months ago
polish a turd its still a turd and that's what destiny is.
believe me I had high hopes for the game, I wanted the game to succeed but with activision calling the shots it never happened. the biggest mistake they made was signing that contract with activision.
and no destiny hasn't had more content then no mans sky. but lets drop it.
I believe its a big fat lie when they said they dropped 500 million dollars making this game, 500 million dollars and that's what we got? that was a huge lie. how long was this game in development for? they had all that time, theres really no excuse for it man.
if I had 500 million my game that I would make would have WAY more content then that and even a better storyline.
MystBunny
7 years, 4 months ago
I've never played Destiny. Never been big on FPS. I'm always interested for a few levels or so, then I get bored quick. As for Hello Games listening to the community, well, silence aside, they did have to do SOMETHING, otherwise, No Man's Sky would have ended up as one of the biggest flops in gaming history. As the release was all hype and no substance, I think they were going for the opposite extreme with this one, with no hype at all. Also yep no micro-transactions is a very very good thing and hopefully it'll stay that way.

Also, 7 million for a freighter? It was offered to me for 11. *picks up a baseball bat* I'll be right back >=(
eeveefan
7 years, 4 months ago
im guessing it depends on who you buy it from?
FluffyRaccoon
7 years, 4 months ago
It's not like they're any good for gaming regardless. They just copied Minecraft's crafting and collecting system which is the cancer of modern gaming.
MystBunny
7 years, 4 months ago
There are a TON of games in this genre, just like every genre that suddenly makes a lot of money. Minecraft is better with lots and lots of mods.
FluffyRaccoon
7 years, 4 months ago
Maybe the bigger problem is the overuse of procedural generation and the lack of hand made content but still it's more fun to do unique missons with unique cutscenes in a game like Gta than collecting flowers and mushrooms and surviving/capturing bases and doing nothing else for hours and hours like in most open world games today.
MystBunny
7 years, 4 months ago
Maybe I'm weird, but I LOVE procedurally generated stuff. Vanilla Minecraft didn't really give you a lot to do, of course, unless you REALLY like building things.
Reyedog
7 years, 4 months ago
If you follow the atlas quest you'll come across more copper and other resources than normally going your own way. Some of the planets in the atlas line are pre-made planets with abundant of resources. You can always tell which planets are pre-made ones to be tossed into your path. They are always jungle types that look extremely nice and are high sentinel govern ones.  

But yeah going your own path in the game just drains the fun out of it and you run into problems on the off path. Kinda takes away the point of doing things your own way.
MystBunny
7 years, 4 months ago
Yeah in the previous version I found Copper all over the place in those floating boulders, but now that I've finally scanned a planet with copper in the new version, it's still nowhere to be found. Maybe a bug, too.
anewIB
7 years, 4 months ago
It would be a good game if it were in the $15-25 price range and in Early Access, but at the current price it's just sad
MystBunny
7 years, 4 months ago
Yep yep, though I think it has enough content now to be out of early access.
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