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lavilovi

No LGB without the T (or the A)

If you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all, so they say.

So I'll focus on the nice part: Y'all, we gotta embrace the whole Queer community. The moment there's exclusions, the more fragmented we are, the more vulnerable we are as a minority group. Trans people are real, they are valid, they need support (especially given current goings-ons), they are our siblings in the fight for equality for all.

We are in this together, and we need to support each other. No exclusions, no gatekeeping others.

And, because I know it's been said before and I want my unconditional support to be well-understood:
1) Trans people are queer.
2) Bisexual people are queer.
3) Ace/Aro people are queer.

There is no Queer community without them.



(And, for the record, fuck AI entirely at this point. How the hell have we as a society decided to let robots do the creativity for us? Draw stick figures! Draw basic shapes! Do a single color on a canvas!! Please don't give up a basic part of our humanity, the ability to create. No it's not easy, yes it takes time, no no one is magically gifted and talented. Just do it!!!!! Sorry, that wasn't the nicest thing of me to say.)


[edit: lol at being told "Interesting, you block people for calling queer people pedophiles and also Jews are also pedophiles!"  Bruh, I'm not the tolerant left; I'm the intolerant me and I'm just gonna block you lol Debating why it's wrong to be a hateful loser is above my paygrade and I'm too much of an asshole to tolerate it. Go whine about it in your own blog post or something lol Stay cool and have a great summer!)
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MystBunny
3 weeks, 2 days ago
I just had a long talk with GR over the past week, and I'm convinced it's not coming from a place of hate, intolerance, or malice. Yes he SHOULD use preferred pronouns, and I think it should be impressed upon him how important this is, but there's a legit cognitive lack of understanding at play here.. I'm not sure how deep into it I should go without him explaining it himself, but it really answers a lot of questions and makes it clear that trying to get him to see things from a trans perspective is functionally like explaining colors to a blind person, rather than a purposeful mental barrier to understanding you often see in the alt-right.
lavilovi
3 weeks, 2 days ago
I have edited my post a bit in response, 'cause my first go honestly didn't focus on what it should have, so I hope now it focuses on the important part of support.

I think, honestly, it makes sense to not understand. It's that difference between sympathy and empathy - one requiring a personal connection that can be hard to have sometimes. Like, I 100% sympathize with bi people, but not being bi and not having had to deal with biphobia, I can't really empathize... It's just not part of my lived experience, so I can educate myself, but I can't fully *understand*. I think that's normal.

Honestly, a good chunk of this post was tapping into my absolute befuddlement with the gay trumpers LOL just blows my mind, so I let things cross lines without being clear on where it was coming from. So, another reason why I edited it lol I am, unfortunately, not immune to reactionary action sigh........... maybe one day

Thank you for the comment <3 :)
MystBunny
3 weeks, 2 days ago
I didn't really take issue with your journal. To be fair this is something I've never encountered before. I notice patterns in people's behavior, sometimes without realizing it, but this seemed to defy ALL of them.
Alfador
3 weeks, 2 days ago
I felt that something like this was true from the beginning, which is why I'm determined not to leave Inkbunny. GR's actions are not those of someone who has an actual dislike of trans people, but someone who just has misinformation on the situation. Like treating pronoun use as "perpetuating a falsehood"—that's something I've heard from other people who seem to have internalized right-wing propaganda. That's why I tried engaging in a comment thread, asking him if he insisted on using people's legal names instead of fursona names, because the latter is just as much a "lie" or "falsehood" as using pronouns other than for one's legal gender. But I never got a response; I suspect it was just lost in a large volume of replies at that time rather than any malice or deliberate ghosting.

I find myself extending Hanlon's Razor a LOT these days. The original is "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" but I prefer to extend it by saying "never attribute to general stupidity that which is adequately explained by specific ignorance or misinformation." This way I'm not still implying a character flaw on the part of the person being talked about, but pointing out that it's a specific information-based situation that can potentially be cured by corrected information.
lavilovi
3 weeks, 2 days ago
" Alfador wrote:
asking him if he insisted on using people's legal names instead of fursona names, because the latter is just as much a "lie" or "falsehood" as using pronouns other than for one's legal gender.


Oh! That's actually a really excellent comparison!

Alfador
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Thank you!
SpoonFox
3 weeks, 2 days ago
Lavi, you're a sweet heart. I've had groups of queer folk try to de-legitimize my queerness because I'm Asexual many times, saying "You're part of the problem" or "You're not oppressed!" Oh boy, let me tell you about the breeder mentality of conservatives, and how "if you're not breeding you're worthless", as well as people who have no clue what asexual means and still try to pressure sexualities on me "Oh you've just not found the right person." I. DO. NOT. LIKE. SEX. I have my reasons for this. I don't even like being touched in person. And this also flabbergasts people who see me being a kinky RPer and shit online... I'm a writer. I like writing. I'm not fapping/gooning to your RP with me... Sorry. It takes a lot to even arouse me, and even then, these days that doesn't always work anymore...

Sorry, Ranted about my stupid shit... *cough* Regardless... Asexual people are being abused in different ways. They're not having their rights taken away (yet), but they're ousted and turned into outcasts in many communities because 'they don't fit'.

As for what the bunbun says, that's the same perspective I have. And HOLY FUCK the number of queer trumpers in the fandom hurts me. "The leopards won't eat my face" as there are currently 9 bills to revoke Gay Marriage right now. *ugh*
lavilovi
3 weeks, 2 days ago
It's fucking DIRE.

I genuinely don't understand the weird Suffering Olympics some people try to play as a card to legitimize this and delegitimize that. Suffering and oppression shouldn't be a prerequisite! It just so happens.... it's a commonality for the Queer community lol And we should be working to stop that from being a thing, for everyone's sake! It just makes me shake my head. I sincerely don't get it.

But seriously, the ace/arophobia is hogwild. "Corrective rape" is literally still a thing. Forced coercion certainly is too!! And the fact that we, as a society, will put babies in onsies that say things like "Future Stud" or "Dude your wife keeps checking me out" is FUCKING WILD, GUYS (and more than a little gross).

There's infinite room in this community, we're not lacking for space. If anything, we need a stronger collective to stand up to the shit those in power are pushing. The more the fucking merrier!!
SpoonFox
3 weeks, 2 days ago
Agreed, friend.

And be wary, you're starting to get some of the assholes in your comments. Including an infamous conspiracy theorist who comes up with the worst fucking takes.
CubbyH
3 weeks, 2 days ago
well said! <3
lavilovi
3 weeks, 2 days ago
uwu <3
Lumite1000
3 weeks, 2 days ago
Forcing someone to speak in an unnatural way isn't being "nice", they can ask for it, and there will be people who find it easy, but I'd like to say that there is a but. This is an issue that they always wanted to reach an agreement on, and the LGBT community always refused any discussion or negotiation on the matter. They didn't allow for a point where both sides could agree, and now that the other side has won, they won't give them a... I'd say a second, but really, it would be like opportunity number 8790135

I understand that they want to be treated in that special way, but honestly, they haven't done anything to deserve that respect. The number of journals and comments I've seen wishing death on him makes it pretty clear which side I'm on, because no matter how much trans people say they're being harassed, what you see is the complete opposite

When the controversy involving Dylan Mulvaney or Ellen Page happened, you'd go to their social media or pages where people talked about the topic, and the very few people wishing them dead were random accounts created a few days ago

But when the JK Rowling or Juegagerman thing happened, it was strange not to find a comment of that kind, and even stranger to not see a comment of that kind coming from a trans or a trans activist, most of them on their main account
lavilovi
3 weeks, 2 days ago
I think that it's interesting you begin by referring to respecting other people's identities as "unnatural," as well as stating trans people want to be treated "special." In my experience, they just want to be treated like people, without assumptions or expectations, something I think we all deserve.

I find that, in these moments, it's easy to be reactionary (hell, I've edited this very post to better express my intentions and not be too much of a bitch about it lol), especially in today's online environment. I'm not immune to this! It's a very human reaction to respond to perceived threats. I don't think this excuses it, mind, but rather we all need to be better aware of it.

Now, with that all said, I am genuinely sad you feel that way. I can very safely say that every trans friend I have has experienced horrific things due to their identity, from threats to actual action. And here's the crux of the issue for me: How should the ideal victim act in this situation, in your opinion, when someone is (at best) denying their identity or (at worst) campaigning to remove their existence? In what way do you think the good person should react to being told "I don't think you should exist" or "I think you're just trying to rape people" or "I think you're a pedophile"?

I, personally, believe no trans person is beholden to grant respect to someone denying their identity.

This is obviously touching on topics much farther than the GR thing. In his instance, I presume ignorance over malice, but at the same time, in a political environment in which those in global power are advocating for the erasure of entire minorities, the line between those two grows indistinct to me.
SpoonFox
3 weeks, 2 days ago
I have lost 4 trans friends since January. One is MIA and presumed dead. Two took their own lives because their families pushed them too far. One was murdered by her own father (They have since been arrested, but it was politically motivated "Doing his job for his country, getting rid of his own 'tranny son'") I only found out about these because the first one's neighbor was part of our group, and she isn't at her house anymore. The second two had local friends who shared their strife. The last one I found out because the late individual's sister was a friend of another friend of mine, and she nearly took her own life because she was scared their father would come after her too, but their mother called the police on him and he was caught. (He was considered an estranged father for being a drunken misogynistic mess.)

"Death Threats" my fucking ass, they're telling him to stop being transphobic, and that he's being a tight ass about it, nothing more. If there are 'death threats', then those are a minority that this individual is using as a way to frame the ENTIRETY of the trans culture. By that logic, since we have a literal MAP on the site who wants to abuse RL children, then all people on IB must be pedophiles. That's the same logic the puritan fuckwits use, and the guy is using that logic on Trans people.

To say "Transphobes don't deserve the hate" is the same logic as "Nazis don't need to be hated, just understood!" Fuck off. We don't tolerate intolerance of any kind. This is the bigotry we're fighting against.
Lumite1000
3 weeks ago
Okay, there are many reasons why people are increasingly less supportive of these movements, and you exemplified some of them in your response.

There is something called intellectual honesty, and you showed such lack of it when it comes to your response.

First of all, I never said that their identities are unnatural; you're making that up. I specifically talked about the issue of speaking, because all of this comes from pronouns.

And I want to continue emphasizing this before moving on to the next point. People usually find it annoying when you misinterpret what they said to seek an attack on those words when there wasn't one. One aspect of intellectual honesty, is the principle of charity (I don't know if that's the correct translation), which is based on interpreting what is closest to what the person meant, and you did the exact opposite.

Another lack of intellectual honesty, and a very serious and childish one in my opinion, is thinking that everyone who doesn't think the same is reactionary and/or ignorant. Yes, there are people who are like that, but it's a lie that they're the majority, and our side completely rejects them.

about your question, it's already on a poor foundation. Not using pronouns doesn't mean all those kinds of things, which no one on our side has ever said. Just like the previous one, yes, there are people who are like that, but it's a lie that they're the majority, and our side completely rejects them.

about "I think you're just trying to rape people" and "I think you're a pedophile," that has never been our argument, and you would know that if you had the intellectual honesty to listen to what we have to say. And what we have to say is that the measures the LGBT movement is taking can be used to do those kinds of things without consequences, or that end in those kinds of things.

Look at the latest case: the LGBT movement in California is against considering paying a minor for sex a felony.

In Spain, the collective stated, AND MAINTAINS TO THIS DAY, that children have the right to consent to sexual relations. In Argentina, they featured a pedophile as the main face of an event attended by more than 40 LGBT organizations (almost all of the country's organizations). In Chile, the collective approved a thesis in favor of pedophilia.

And the worst thing about these last two cases is that both had been going on for some time, and no one within the collective reported them. It was by chance that someone on our side saw them.

How do you expect people not to think like that after the movement makes those kinds of decisions? For that same reason, there are so many of us gays who are constantly against the collective so that we are not put in that bag.
RainbowSquirrel
3 weeks ago
Thats a lot of words to say "i cannot respect my fellow man."
lavilovi
3 weeks ago
I must also accuse you of being "intellectually dishonest," if that is truly what you're accusing me of. You explicitly stated that being "forced" to use preferred pronouns is "unnatural" (quote: "Forcing someone to speak in an unnatural way isn't being "nice""). To  (knowingly) not use someone's preferred pronouns is to literally not respect their identity, which is what I said in return (quote: "you begin by referring to respecting other people's identities as "unnatural,""). How, I must ask, am I misinterpreting your own words? You even say in your response that "I specifically talked about the issue of speaking, because all of this comes from pronouns." To my eyes, we are stating the same thing: use of words to respect or disrespect other people. Or is this, too, going to be called "intellectually dishonest"? ;)

As for your second count of "dishonesty" on my part, you have issue with my comment about reactionary responses (quote: "Another lack of intellectual honesty, and a very serious and childish one in my opinion, is thinking that everyone who doesn't think the same is reactionary and/or ignorant."). I'm a little confused, and I apologize preemptively if I was unclear in my original statement. To clarify, I was not accusing any one side of being reactionary! I quite literally said it was a human issue and one that I was guilty of when I first made this blog post (and have since rectified because I want to be better as a person)! I stand by my words still. We, as a species, are reactionary and it's a difficult instinct to ignore sometimes. Again, I am more than guilty of this myself! I hope that clarifies my original intent and can be seen as "intellectually honest" now.

Now as for the rest of your comment, I think I can roughly be described as "But there have been queer pedophiles/rapists/etc before therefore it's reasonable for that to be used as an accusation against the entire queer community." I may be misunderstanding your point, in which case I am genuinely sorry and would appreciate clarification on your intent. But if I am correctly reading your words, that's an absurd argument that can be applied to every demographic, yet is consistently aimed and used to deny civil and human rights to the queer community, which is a skewed application, in my opinion. When will it be applied to Youth Pastors and Matt Gaetz?

And I'll be honest, I have no idea what California law you're talking about, because in September 2024 a law was signed that explicitly increased the penalty??? I see no queer group denouncing that law? Unless you're talking about the 2020 law? Which also wasn't about legalizing minor/adult sex (at least in no different way than other state's Romeo and Juliet laws, which tbf are fucking gross)???? So I gotta say I don't have reason to trust this fact.
Lumite1000
2 weeks, 3 days ago
I wouldn't say it's an accusation. Objectively, there are things that are considered intellectually dishonest.

And you keep doing it. One thing leading to another through mental gymnastics only means you're looking for a way to find offense in those words. I repeat, I said "speaking." Don't make things up just to attribute a lack of respect to me that doesn't exist. Besides, it's hypocritical. You feel disrespected because someone doesn't accept being forced against their will into something that only a political movement thinks. Diversity is good, except when it's diversity of ideas, apparently.

The problem continues if you keep thinking about "be better as a person." If the narrative is that using pronouns is being a good person, that implies that anyone who doesn't use them is a bad person. When the reality is that it's just a normal person who speaks naturally without pausing to change their words because of what a political movement demands.

Yes and no, your simplification of the argument leaves out important and fundamental nuances.
What I'm saying is that representatives of the collective (organizations, groups, societies, public figures, etc.) have done or supported these kinds of things, and the collective has never spoken out against them.

Like, do you know how many people support this political movement? If at least a quarter of them were against it, these kinds of things wouldn't happen. And yes, as individuals, obviously, the vast majority don't support these things, but as a collective, their actions show that they do support it.

And I don't know who "Youth Pastors and Matt Gaetz" are, since I'm not from the US, but by pastors and the context, I imagine you're referring to the issue of pedophilia cases within the Catholic Church.

Yes, they're wrong. What do you expect me to say? That it's right? I don't understand why you're using those cases when 99% of Christians are against it and condemn it, both individuals and representatives (something that can't be said about LGBT people)

Furthermore, another reason why it is an absurd argument is that, in percentage, the cases of LGBT people doing these things are muuuuuuch higher than that of Catholics. The same Spanish government made public an entire investigation on the matter trying to make the church look bad, but they only found that of all the cases of child abuse, only 0.03% belong to the church (being the country with the highest percentage). And just to add, the number of Jews is, depending on the country, about 17 times higher than that of Christians.

And about California, that's from this month, they're holding a vote to see if that crime is considered medium or serious, and LGBT representatives are publicly announcing that they will vote no
lavilovi
2 weeks, 3 days ago
"How dare you say I said x when I really said x." Talk about intellectually dishonest! lol

Stay cool and have a great summer :)
Makroth
1 week, 6 days ago
1. Being trans is a poltical movement? Is being gay also a poltical movement? Or have they stopped being one after the stigma against them is mostly gone?

2.Can you actually prove that the LGBT community actually supports pedophilia? Also, aren't you gay?

3. Show me text of the Spanish law that says you can fuck children if they consent. Or that it says they're capable of consent at all.

4. The Catholic Church is the world's biggest pedophile ring. I can show you the receipts to prove that. Every Catholic that supports it in any way is supporting pedophilia. Most Catholics support it.

And no, changing what pronouns you use for someone is not unnatural. For fuck's sake, you dipshits respect the pronouns of cats and dogs more than you do the ones of people.
Pepelebabysitter
1 week, 4 days ago
1 no, it is a topic that has been extremely politicized to the point where I can safely say that 98% of transsexuals and transgender people are so for political reasons and not because they currently have the condition of gender disparity

the only people who maintain that being gay or trans is the lgbt movement itself. gays like me, lumite, and thousands that there are around the world, have always wanted to separate ourselves for many reasons, starting with the fact that being gay shouldn't be synonymous with belonging to a leftist ideology


2 in the other comment, I gave you an example.
what does being gay have to do with being against a group? just because they claim to defend us (which they don't do much of, to be honest) doesn't mean we're part of it and can't question it

3 is not a law, it is an idea that the government and several parties (all lgbt) are promoting, they even spend public money on making a billboard with a similar phrase

4 that's straight up lie on the same level as a flat earth and it's downright stupid. in the country where cases of child abuse by Christians are the highest in the world,(which is Spain, coincidentally), it's barely 0.03%, literally, cases of Jews abusing children are 17 times higher

also because does that relieve the blame for the other cases? are you justifying them? are you downplaying the other cases? are you falsely assuming that we support those cases even though many against lgbt aren't even christians?

you can't name a major Christian organization saying pedophilia is okay, but I can name several lgbt organizations, about 40 in Argentina alone
Makroth
1 week, 3 days ago
Is has been politicized the same way being gay used to be politicized. It has been politicized by the same monsters who want trans people dead. The same people who politicized this are also the same people who politicized being gay and wanted them eliminated. They're using the same arguments against their new victims, for crying out loud!

Being gay or trans or asexual or gender-noncorfiming has always been left-wing and always will be. Because the right wing has never been OK with such deviations and never will be. Ernst Rohm also believed himself to be safe if he bowed down to the right. He was wrong.

Show me that billboard.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67238572

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/obituaries/article/2025/04/21...

https://www.france24.com/en/france/20211003-thousands-o...

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/public...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6676731/

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/5/awful-truth-ch...

IT.

IS.

A.

PEDOPHILE.

RING.

It is the world's largest and most succesful pedophile ring. Anybody who supports the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia. Full stop.

Every accusation is a confession. The "righteous" are the the true monsters. And no, it doesn't matter one bit if the church says child-rape is not okay. Because their actions say the opposite. Their protection of pedophiles says they believe it IS okay.

Now it's your turn. Show me LGBT organizations that even come close to that kind of horror. I will genuinely surprised if you find even one that's not just the lies of murderous, pedophilic right-wingers.
Makroth
1 week, 6 days ago
Before we continue, i'm gonna need you to prove that that was an actual pedophile supported by more than 40 pesophile organizations. The reason i don't believe you is because lying is the right wing's bread and butter.
Pepelebabysitter
1 week, 4 days ago
he can't answer you because Lavi has already blocked a couple for not taking the same view (the tolerant ones)

here's the video that explains the whole thing, including sources
t's obviously in spanish because that happened in Argentina

https://youtu.be/HzB2_ewuRvQ?si=KjRbefIq4ilJ36XF
lavilovi
1 week, 3 days ago
That video has nothing about pedophilia that I can see, so... not sure why you thought it relevant (like, okay, it's wrong to assault someone in general? I'm not sure what you were expecting)? Also, yikes, no one else had yet brought out antisemitism in their comments! So honestly, I'm just gonna save us both time. Please tolerate this:

:) Stay cool and have a great summer!
Makroth
1 week, 3 days ago
That's not what that video is about.
Caballofinoyclasico
19 mins ago
Unfortunately, he is right about the video, you may not have understood it because of the language difference.
MystBunny
3 weeks, 2 days ago
You try being the target of an organized and nefarious campaign of fearmongering and scapegoating for a decade and see if you don't feel like lashing out every now and then. Notice this wasn't as big an issue before that. It's a fear reaction. When you back people into a corner, they fight. What we should be doing is rejecting the fearmongering tactics first and foremost.
Lumite1000
3 weeks ago
First of all, we're not in 1980 anymore. If that were really the case, the law would have to intervene. They don't do it? Well, yours've been in power longer than us, eight years with Obama and four with Biden. The fact that the state is ineffective in those cases is yours fault.

As I said before, the right has tried to discuss this hundreds of times, and the collective never gave them the opportunity.

On this side of the continent, we have the perfect example. The number of famous pro-LGBT influencers who access debates can be counted on the fingers of one hand, while those who are against it (it's important to note that two of the most famous are gay) are always inviting to that debate
MystBunny
3 weeks ago
??????

Dude, scapegoating tactics have never been illegal! The hell are you on about? Roman emperors used scapegoating tactics against Christians, and politicians here in the US have been using them against every minority they can get away with, for as long as they can get away with it. it's the oldest trick in the book and you seem to have been drinking up every drop of it. At this late date, that's just pathetic.
Lumite1000
2 weeks, 3 days ago
Okay, let's say what you say is true. The colective is still just as guilty because they've never opposed to that
MystBunny
2 weeks, 3 days ago
You don't need to reach everyone with these tactics, and hell, here in the US, you don't even have to reach a majority. As for whether it's true, go back and listen to some of the segregationists during the civil rights movement, or not even that far back to before gay marriage. You'll find a lot of similarities.
lucashoal
3 weeks, 1 day ago
"When the controversy involving Dylan Mulvaney"
Budweiser put her face on ONE beer, for marketing purposes. That was the entire controversy. It wasn't even a public release, it was literally just for her to promote them.
Lumite1000
3 weeks ago
Yes, and people reacted as they should, not consuming the product, not going on social media to wish death like they did with JK.

Besides, the problem wasn't that she was put as the face of the brand, it's dishonest and you admit that you haven't listened to what that side has to say if you think that was the main reason why they did it
lucashoal
3 weeks ago
JK, you mean Rowling? No she deserves 5x the hatred she puts into the world.

That is indeed the entire story wrt Ms. Mulvaney though. All she did in the Bud story, was be an influencer who had her face put on a can by AmeriBev. There's no more story there.

e- https://inkbunny.net/j/554715#commentid_2816064 what in the kentucky fried fuck is this series of run on ideas with nothing cited trump boy, lmao.
PoorSal
3 weeks, 2 days ago
Well said <3
lavilovi
3 weeks, 2 days ago
<3 <3 <3
ShySketch
3 weeks, 2 days ago
"We are in this together, and we need to support each other. No exclusions, no gatekeeping others."

Except me, right?  I get accused of "hating" my own sexuality by the usual suspects, many of which say the exact same thing you're saying, right here.  See how long it takes for them to make up the most ridiculous claims about me hating my own sexuality, but as though I did not have that sexuality.

It has nothing to do with "sexuality" or "sexual identity" they only care about having power over others and abusing that power for their every emotional whim.  They live life as though they think they are "God" and treat everyone else with contempt and slander. :P
lavilovi
3 weeks, 2 days ago
I'm sorry to hear that
ShySketch
3 weeks, 2 days ago
Thank you.  I'm sure you'll be getting a few private messages from them soon, demanding that you block me and providing links to the ADL's "hate symbol database."  They use the ADL's because every letter A-Z in English (and other languages) as well as all numbers up to like 5 figures, and a ton of everyday normal things, all have their own direct url "hate symbol" link.  They use these as a slandering tool against me, to make it "look official."  This has been going on for years.  It has absolutely nothing-at-all to do with my sexuality, which they constantly deny I am when they slander me.  They helped me get permabanned from FA, and FA never gave any rule/reason and it was my first ever ban on FA.  From nothing, to a permaban, thanks to their slander.

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My issue with all this is that the "primary concerns" have nothing to do with sexuality.  For example, during the lockdown (I worked in-person until the "vaccine" mandate in late 2021), I was prevented from entering all of the local "LGBTQ spaces" (bars, clubs, etc) on the basis of things like "PCR tests" and "Vaccine Passports."  After about a year, I no longer considered myself "LGBT" because I was not allowed to attend.  Nothing about my sexuality changed, obviously.  A similar thing happened with the furry fandom, because I'm basically "pre-banned" from all the cons, despite never even attending any con ever.

Again, "LGBT" is supposedly about sexuality, right?  But even in your journal, you make a reference to "the fight for equality for all."  I do not "fight."  I do not believe in "equality for all" because that's communism.  He who defines "equality" is inherently not equal, but superior.  I do believe that we have rights, but a right is not the same thing as "equality for all" which implies some kind of centralized "equality institution" which gets to define what "equality" means.
StarRabbit
3 weeks, 1 day ago
I don't know who you are or why you feel 'persecuted,' but after reading that schpeel I'm going to guess you're not well liked because you're kind of a narcissistic asshole. It's not about your sexuality. It's about you coming in here trying to highjack this discussion to assert yourself as the main character of 'real life.'

Get therapy.
ShySketch
3 weeks, 1 day ago
You don't know who I am, but that doesn't stop you from making judgements?

theRapists are a form of religion
StarRabbit
3 weeks, 1 day ago
You're doing a great job of showing me who you are; a gross, extremely cringe, narcissistic freak.
ShySketch
3 weeks, 1 day ago
The OP is deleting my comments without given reason.  You guys need to carefully construct whatever narrative you need around me?

Here I'll repost part of it

""Trans" as in "transformation" which is the base, foundational sexuality of "Trans."  Which I actually have as my primary sexuality, but which isn't technically possible in the way that my sexuality is."

The OP is trying to frame me as "not trans"

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Here is another part of my (deleted) comment)

"It's not limited to "gender," and the sexuality has nothing to do with surgery or pharmaceutical products.  That is an exploitation of trans, and abuse of trans.  You're speaking of "trans" but it's not even your sexuality.  It's my sexuality, but I get slandered."

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It's exact what I said would happen.
StarRabbit
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Have you ever considered not behaving like a self-absorbed asshole? Have you tried 'being humble and considerate of others' as a possible strategy to navigate social situations? No? Just gonna keep acting persecuted because everyone around you refuses to treat you like a diva? S'okay then!

Again; seek therapy.
ShySketch
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Have you considered that you're getting only the selectively edited comments I write, and that they delete others to portray me as the "bad guy" xD

What did they tell you?  Lately, it's been ADL links and claims that I'm "homophobic" and "transphobic."  Look at my gallery for 2 seconds and tell me what you see.  It's all made up~!
StarRabbit
3 weeks, 1 day ago
Nah, your persecution-complex and need to be the center of attention is clear as day, front and center. It's in every post you write. No one is trying to hide that, because there IS no hiding that.

You're your own worst enemy. Your head is just too far up your own ass to see it.

Log off and touch some grass.
Makroth
1 week, 6 days ago
That's not a sexuality.
ShySketch
3 weeks, 1 day ago
I take back the thanks, you deleted my comment explaining that I am trans so that I could be privately slandered as transphobic.

Same thing every time, selectively deleting my comments to frame me :P
lavilovi
3 weeks, 1 day ago
I thought that if I acknowledged that you hurt in ways I do not understand, while removing your unnecessary comments on other people's threads, we could potentially have a nice, quiet moment in which I can say that I don't understand your beliefs but perhaps, ultimately, you did not intend anything negative.

But I see that cannot work. So I'm banning you from my stuff. Congrats, I've been on this site for a full decade and you are the first user I've banned.

So screencap this comment and use it as proof that you're being personally victimized by me. I'm the cackling villain plotting your downfall, the evil master of darkness personally trying to destroy you and all you hold dear, yada, yada, yada, whatever you need to never have to ruminate on how you play a part in your own societal demise. Stay cool and have a nice summer.
Bosky
3 weeks, 2 days ago
Cosign! *lil foxy hugs!* Us queer folks oughta stick together, and we all deserve love and support! And that includes transgender and bisexual and ace folks too!
lavilovi
3 weeks, 2 days ago
Exactly!! <3 <3 Such wise words from such a lil foxy pup <3 :3
ButteNutte
3 weeks, 2 days ago
Amen, it's all of us or none of us, and I stand with my trans siblings out there. Gay people got their rights and social acceptance (mostly), now is not the time to go "fuck you got mine", this is only getting the foot in the door and we either get all the way in or risk having the door slammed on all of us again
lavilovi
3 weeks, 2 days ago
Legit!!! You hit the nail on the head! Equality is not a limited resource! We can and should demand more for all our queer siblings!
FriskeyFurley
3 weeks, 2 days ago
so true all what you said in his journal
lavilovi
3 weeks, 2 days ago
I'm genuinely so happy to see so many people agree. I think it's easy to doomscroll and forget that far more people have empathy and basic decency that the news suggests <3
FriskeyFurley
3 weeks, 1 day ago
well ofc i understand  that ppl can be different and we all are only strong if we stick together.

I myself was nonbinary and strongly felt like neither male or female are right
even if i'm now all secure being my own kind of male (a gay to add my preferences but i can act outside it too
doesnt invalidates my sexuality. i'm just that much of a sub and open minded if non males want my dick o..o,,)
MomartikPSITIME
3 weeks, 1 day ago
It's been years and years and I still don't know/understand what "queer" means :/
SpoonFox
3 weeks, 1 day ago
"Abnormal", "Strange", or "Different". Usually associated with sexuality these days, or identification with one's attraction towards a same sex (homosexuality), lack of attraction (asexuality), or their sense of self not aligning (transgender, therian, otherkin).
lavilovi
3 weeks, 1 day ago
I think it's easier to define it by what it is not, that is cisgendered sex-interested hetersexuals (the societal norm). If you're not one or two or all threes of those things, bam! You're in the queer community.
lucashoal
3 weeks ago
It's a synonym for LGBT, any more.
https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/queer-history-a-hi... don't take tiktok/twitter/tumblr QUEER IS A SLUR! discourse as gospel truth.
https://www.out.com/activism/homophobic-slurs-being-rec...
listen to more people. Long story short, Queer *can be* used as a slur, like a lot of words. But it's essentially just a synonym for LGBT at this point.
df01
3 weeks, 1 day ago
🥰🥰
lavilovi
3 weeks ago
<3 <3 <3
WintersInk
2 weeks, 5 days ago
Based and true! Go Lavilovi! <3
lavilovi
2 weeks, 5 days ago
Sayin' it loud and fucking proud!!!! <3 <3
MrCoyote
2 weeks, 1 day ago
I still need to learn more about trans people, but yes, they suffer the same and more than us, and they need our support.
lavilovi
2 weeks, 1 day ago
I'm definitely still ignorant myself, but trying to understand and sharing support means the world, I think! :) <3 <3
Ssurgul
1 week, 6 days ago
Well, there's one key element to all the hate being piled up on the trans community right now that bears reminding everyone of.

All these accusations are, quite literally, just recycled from their constant attacks on the GL parts of the community back when we were demanding equal rights last century. That we were 'indoctrinating kids', that we were a 'danger to health of the community', that we were 'sick' and 'deviant' and 'damned'. All that usual religious zealot hate. There is no hate quite like Xian "love". That applied then, as it applies to now. It's not a very bright light in this blanket of shitty darkness the RTTs have been pushing over the world. But it is a light. I view nearly all the community as being allies to everyone else. I know better than to count on support from the likes of the Log Cabin Republicans, which might as well be where at least one of my exes lives nowadays. They're so self-hating that they refuse to just let the rest of us be, and be open, and be honest, and be happy.

Also, just remember this too when the inevitable "but can't you at least recognize the super majority for preventing trans inclusion <here> or <there>??" The vast majority of the country, because of the religiosity of the founders, as well as the purely insane sects that have sprung up since the Renaissance, wanted to jail gays. They denied us fundamental rights. They were constantly railing against us. Push back at EVERY teensy tiny thing that is asserted, because it's literally just the thin end of the wedge to them. And when they screech about how 'uncompromising' you are when you do, just remind them that trying to "compromise" with someone that doesn't believe people are actually who they say they are is like trying to compromise with a cannibal over who they're allowed to eat. You are under NO obligation to support or compromise with literal hate. Because you can be absolutely sure that their "compromise" will always end up with us being shoved back in the closet at the best, and jailed at the worst.
lavilovi
1 week, 6 days ago
10000% It's the same tactics. Which is really why I'm baffled by people in the community trying to gatekeep... Like, I guess they think that if they back up the hate, they'll be seen as "one of the good ones" as opposed to the reality, which is "next in line for the firing squad."

But I suppose that's partially thanks to LGBT history really isn't passed on, isn't it? Between the AIDS crisis literally killing those who could have passed it on, and teaching it being seen as corrupting the youth, you really have to go searching to find it, which sucks. Knowledge of how those with a pink triangle were forced to finish their sentences after the "end" of the Holocaust, that trans woman of color were instrumental and integral key figures to the queer civil rights fight (trans people have always been here!!!), that even now the LGBT is used as a scapegoat for health issues (monkeypox got quickly labeled the gay sex disease, despite literally being contagious by talking/sneezing/coughing and other nonsexual behavior). We, as a community, have through various reasons, lost touch with our own history, which is only to our detriment...
Ssurgul
1 week, 6 days ago
Well, it's not just that we've 'lost touch' with the history. Some, like me, are quite old, and saw it all. With the Intartubez, finding the reality is literally just a quick search away. But that's not what I see as the biggest problem. Many years ago, I was roomies with a rather young, rather green fur that was tututing and shaking his head that people were holding a gay pride march in an Islamic country. (Can't recall which, but that's not relevant.) He said that they should expect to get killed for doing that. After all, with all the advances we'd made (this was the mid-2000s), we really didn't need Pride marches anymore at all, and just look at the USA ones to see why. All that flamboyant drag and silliness and sex, it was all so pointless to him.

Ummmmmm, we've seen what happens when we get slack on fighting for our fucking rights. And lazy asshats like him only empower the fucking evil to constantly try and rip our rights away. Remember, SCOTUS already signaled that they're more than willing to overturn Obergefell, to start the process of shoving us all back in the closet. You're absolutely right that the AIDS crisis took away so many of our strongest voices. Thanks ever so much you fuck Reagan for doing NOTHING by choice. But that doesn't mean our history has been straightwashed away. Not yet anyway. But we definitely need STRONG advocates, unlike what Pelosi and Clinton offered. Rights aren't pie, as Jammidodger on YT says. Us getting equality harms the cis-hets in precisely zero ways, other than taking away their selective exclusionary politics. And that's NOT fucking persecution.
Makroth
1 week, 6 days ago
Also, every accusation is a confession. A lot of the people screaming about "groomers" have been proven to be actual groomers themselves.
Ssurgul
1 week, 6 days ago
Oh, most assuredly. One one of my 'normal' social feeds, someone took it upon themselves to post every time there was another pedo case out there. And over 90% of the time (he had listed over 30, and 2 weren't straight) the culprit is cis-het and RTT/faith leader. Not surprising, as we knew from the 70s that that was the case. But to have the actual facts laid out like that, and for them to double down on the screeched accusations just reinforces how devoid of real world facts and data they are.
Dokkulfr
1 day, 21 hrs ago
100%. Thanks for this ^_^
Caballofinoyclasico
22 mins ago
Where I studied, they often stopped classes to give us LGBT talks.

Based on my experience with this movement, I can say that most of the rejection toward it doesn't stem from any kind of phobia.

My first interaction was being insulted by pro-LGBT activists at one of those talks for saying that I didn't think it was a good idea that the fight against homophobia was for Superman's son to be gay.

So, of course, after that, you already have a gay person against the group, and several more because my friends were nearby listening.

Even if I hadn't said anything, that rejection would still exist because it wasn't a private talk. Imagine being poor and realizing that the money you spend on taxes is going toward that. And not to mention all the students who saw our classes fall behind. Those who studied for two years could have been reduced to one or three months if we take out those talks, because it's not like it lasted a little while.
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