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sashtrash

Leaving IB

Well no shit, you could have guessed! I havent posted in a hot min lol

Ill leave my stuff here but will no longer be posting here on IB, the tagging system annoys me and most of the people give me the big cringe. I neither look forward to posting things here nor look forward to the comments so

Thanks for supporting me all those years, was fun here while it lasted!
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Added: 1 year ago
 
RIPInkbunny
1 year ago
Sad to see you go, but yeaaaah, I agree that a lot of people here are super cringy due to their.... lack of social awareness.. >w>;;
VarraTheVap
1 year ago
Hey, that's what it means to be a furry! =3
RIPInkbunny
1 year ago
I suppose. x3

I just mean those that leave overly sexual/overly creepy comments. Had to deal with one fur who wouldn't leave me alone for 2 years. He was constantly making sexual/creepy comments towards me and kept block evading.
theuncalledfor
1 year ago
If someone is block evading then that's a bit more than a lack of social awareness. That's cyberstalking. You should report them if you haven't already.
RIPInkbunny
1 year ago
I think I did, but not 100% sure, either way, I hadn't dealt with them in 4-5 years so.. yeah
theuncalledfor
1 year ago
Oh, it's a long time ago. Good.
alphamule
1 year ago
Yeah, eww.  That is not cool!
Tigerfestivals
1 year ago
That's like, super creepy and fucked up. Good that you were able to get them to stop but...what the hell is wrong with some people
sashtrash
1 year ago
No it doesnt but hey you do you, i cant stop anyone from enjoying their social cesspool lol
Nightdancer
1 year ago
That's sad, I always liked your art.
Imho, the tagging system is one of the good points. It's horrible everywhere else.
VarraTheVap
1 year ago
Huh, IB has a really good tagging system if you ask me..
Guess no site can be perfect for everyone >w<
Take care!
Etis
1 year ago
e621 has a good tagging system. Here... It is a mess. It needs standardization, aliases and actual enforcement.
WhiteSky
1 year ago
Yeah, it could be better, but it feels like more people are tagging their images here at least than on FurAffinity. I've seen plenty of artists don't add any tags or even take the time to select the category, species and gender.

I feel like it should be less the responsibility of the moderators to tag images though and more of the artists. Because it would just lead to more lazy artists not tagging their stuff properly because they can just leave it to the moderators.
sashtrash
1 year ago
FR i love e621's tagging system so much that i used to just do it all there, then copy/paste it all to this sites shitty tagging system so i didnt have to deal with it lol, that really made it a pain in the ass to upload anything here for me.
WhiteSky
1 year ago
Out of curiosity, what's so bad about this tagging system compared to e621 in your opinion? I may have not realized something and it could help me understand where you're coming from.
sashtrash
1 year ago
Im sorry but if you cant spot the difference between the two you prolly just needa post on e6 and ib more often cus its actually night and day. Manually typing tegs for everything on here is for the birds, e6 actually gives you an A-Z list of related tags and you just have to click the ones that apply ezpz
WhiteSky
1 year ago
Inkbunny also has tag suggestions, if that's what you mean. It may not be that intuitive to you, but you can prefer what you want after all. :D
sashtrash
1 year ago
Under the tagging text box theres a related option labled "Tags". When you click that, it automatically comes up with related tags to the ones in the box already. This site doesnt have that, you have to manually type in every single tag you can think of instead of a system that finds related tags for you, including obscure tags that you definitely wouldnt know to fill in yourself.

At this point im just telling you so that you can make your life easier, cus that tagging system is the best out of any site. But hey who am i to talk ive only been posting consistently on multiple sites for 10+ years what do i know :p
WhiteSky
1 year ago
No need to be rude here please. I wasn't aware of this feature on e621 because it doesn't bother me to type out every single tag, even if it takes me a minute to do. But I appreciate that you still told me about it as it does seem to be a good feature. Now I'm wondering how difficult it is to implement it on a site that hasn't started with a tagging system like on e621. It would be nice if it were on every art site though.
sashtrash
1 year ago
Dont mean to be rude to you, but yeah im more than happy to bring that to your attention cus it really is a godsend when tagging. Hopefully every site can get with the program but id be surprised if ANY furry site would dare try to innovate lol
WhiteSky
1 year ago
Yeah, innovation seems to be rare these days, I agree with you on that. Not only on furry art sites, but everywhere. And if a site tries to innovate it mostly goes bad. like twitter. When you can even call it innovation. xD

Thank you for your help though, I will probably use this feature from now on. :D
Hornybunny
1 year ago
What they mean is autocomplete of sorts. start typing in a tag and it'll give a list of related tags. so if you type in asshole, it'll suggest anus and replace asshole with anus.

Inkbunny does that for tag suggestions, but not for adding tags to something you're gonna post.
alphamule
1 year ago
It gets better:  You can create custom lists of quick tags (under advanced account settings - same place as blacklist and site customizations like themes and user CSS).  Oh, and you can just have blank lines between groups of them and cut/paste the ones you plan on working the most with to the front to change order.
I do that for all tags related to Divine Acid web comic, for example.  Common tags for that comic means I can just click on the ones I want.  It turns out that the quick tags are available while uploading, but you have to already add at least one normal tag like say, artist name.  Not something like parent:xxxxxx or pool:xxxxx or other tags that do something 'special'.

That said... flip side of this is that e621 tagging is a total time-sink and is running into situation where there's more images posted to the site in last 2 or 3 years, than all the years before.  A really good resource for artists is the Wiki system, though.  I used it to show examples and descriptions of all the main characters in Divine Acid, as it gets uploaded and tagged.

https://e621.net/wiki_pages/51699

What some do is just have their IB or other accounts for posting things like a soap box/personal gallery, and then use e621's search system to gain exposure from source links to receive commissions from fans.
TalentlessHack
1 year ago
People not using it for starters. People thinking since this place is the "Default" place for cub smut, they can just not tag it as such.
PilloTheStar
1 year ago
Yeah e6 definitely has the best tagging system. Too bad it has the worst everything else. XD
LustPuppet
1 year ago
e621 forces uncomfortable or incorrect words in a lot of tags. pretty much nowhere has a perfect tagging solution, probably not even possible since everyone has different preferences. they also force broad policies about comments and such, instead of leaving things to the discretion/desires of the artist... e621 is just okay, like here is just okay
Etis
1 year ago
Well, it is inevitable, since there is often no universally comfortable and correct ones. But it is functional.
LustPuppet
1 year ago
yeah, much as I find other systems functional. there's tradeoffs to every environment and system. I had a lot of bad experiences with FA, DA, and E621, but here it's been oddly minimal, I don't fully understand why... I've watched people claim it has to do with drawing certain content yet that comes from people that draw it less and got more shit... it's all mysterious
discorat
1 year ago
lol...wow
WhiteSky
1 year ago
I personally like that people here tag at least more than the people on FurAffinity, since in the latter it's rare that people even tag their images. No wonder that a blacklist system there doesn't work if no one even tags their stuff. And on Inkbunny you don't have to tag everything, the basic stuff is enough, else people just add tags for you if you let them.

About the people here, I feel like it depends where you are. I've seen similar comments on FurAffinity so I think it's just the furry fandom in general.

But you made your own experiences here and it's understandable that you want to leave because of that. Take care and I wish you the best. :D
Onihidden
1 year ago
this is a huge shame, sorry to hear, i adore your art

saw your shouts and read that stupid message by some idiot retracting their favorite, so i 100% understand you hating the community here

hope you can post in a more fulfilling website
sashtrash
1 year ago
Funnily enough i could care less about that one single comment lol dude was just ranting aloud about literally nothing

Its the DM's i get that are usually sketchy
Mircea
1 year ago
That's unfortunate: I was following you here exclusively. Hope you will come back someday!
CrystalMendrilia
1 year ago
Alright buddy, I hope the best for you and that you find what you seek out there! ^_^   At least the cringe community here isn't quite like FA yet lol
sashtrash
1 year ago
I rarely post on FA and have been there a lot longer, but just the fact that this site allows cub means that this site is gonna get more cringe comments, period. Sure FA is bad but thats just furries in general... at least theres waay less closet pedos. "Wish that were me" hits very different on here euggh ;;;;
CrystalMendrilia
1 year ago
I cannot agree with you more on that front.  ~_~  "Oh yes daddy, do me like that too OOOO WOOOOO" (said out loud)"  

My issues with FA are more about censorship and political bias from the staff, but yeah the cringe is..... Strong. I tend to avoid it in my circles at least.   Though I have been given a strike on FA for speaking out against raping kids, which upon appeal they double downed on it.   That was an experience.

By the way, your profile avatar animation cracks me up. It's really cute in a violent way. :P
sashtrash
1 year ago
Very fair that site is fucked in other awful ways lmao, maybe ill just never post anywhere cus furries will always be cringe
CrystalMendrilia
1 year ago
Well, my honest suggestion is to post if you want to post, for your own reasons. Don't worry about others so much. :P   Every fandom has weirdos in them!

Enjoy yourself, others will enjoy you. ^_^


Song for you!

https://youtu.be/UjRTwdewvG8?si=Cphm64tfKv0PtRCX
sashtrash
1 year ago
Yeah of course, ik you dont know me but trust me, i dont worry a peep about what others think. Ill always find a place to show off my work and there will always be haters, but they make me STRONGER

Thanks for the jam too lol
CrystalMendrilia
1 year ago
Thanks for the pics buddy. :)   I hope you find what you seek out there! ^_^
MystBunny
1 year ago
Can I ask what exactly you find "cringe" about comments on cub porn? The way you're wording this reads a little icky
alphamule
1 year ago
I guess a different kind of cringe.  Some of the stuff I saw on Deviant Art makes me wonder if that site even has moderators.  People openly cyberstalking, doxing, harassing comments, etc.  It's like Kiwi Farms spilled over into the other sites.
Roobles
1 year ago
Love your art, but completely understand the decision.  I wish you well, and hope you find spaces that better suit you.
TigerB
1 year ago
Sure have fun, i mean that is some large horse you sit on. I assumed that kind cringe i exactly your alley, when i look at your uploads.
sashtrash
1 year ago
You dont even follow me bro lol why you tryna instigate some shit lmao

Prime example of why im hoppin out this place no cap. Big talk from someone jerking off to all the cub rape shit in your faves. Take it easy and stay out of trouble fr
TigerB
1 year ago
Oh, now i see i hit a point. No wonder you can't take any critics yourself. I did follow you for years btw, but your cringe made me un-follow you.
sashtrash
1 year ago
Currently you are my biggest critic lmao go fuckin cry about it little man
CowboyBboy
1 year ago
Where can we find your art moving forward?
sashtrash
1 year ago
Just e6 and twitter for now, maybe ill start posting to FA again
PilloTheStar
1 year ago
I had my account for 4 years without posting any art til now for the exact same reasons lol. Oh well. Hope to see your art elsewhere. 👌
TalentlessHack
1 year ago
Yeah people don't tag their shit here. Fucking annoying. People assume since this is the "Default safe space" to post cub art, they don't need to tag it. Not all of us wanna look at your Lisa Simpson porn or whatever
betteroldoe
1 year ago
IB has that reputation tbh because its the big site that does allow cub tbh
ArenConcordia
1 year ago
Yeah, the tagging system here is not great. Although honestly, people are people everywhere, and some people are just cringe. I don't think that's an IB specific issue.
Tigerfestivals
1 year ago
It's not like twitter is really any better as far as cringe goes, but you do what's best for you I guess.
sashtrash
1 year ago
Idk why you n others are defending this site like that lol, its a cesspool through n through that i, and many of my friends that i respect, have happily walked away from.
Tigerfestivals
1 year ago
I don't see how I'm defending it though. I'm on both sites so I was just saying what I've noticed. People are weird here, I just think it's odd to act like Twitter is some how greener pastures when its its own kind of trashfire.
Maybe I'm missing something though or you're being vague, a shit tagging system and people being "cringe" can be annoying and perfectly valid reasons to leave but judging by your tone it seems like theres more to it than that.
PantyRanger
1 year ago
I might get shit with this comment.
I assume this is about cub art.

I haven't made a journal about it, but while I do like ink bunny and generally I don't have a issue with cub art specifically, I've been kind of turned off from drawing it because goddamn, people get fucking weird on here.
There's something about the obsessive way some people who solely engage with it that just makes shit uncomfortable.

Also, admittedly, I don't like that this place seems to be cub art central. It's the big content driver.
I dunno, people can do what they want, but I guess I prefer variety in things.

Like, I got very little drive for it and just been focused on my adult characters mostly.
God Speed wherever you go. You make good art. I'd love to follow to see the rest of it.
sashtrash
1 year ago
My man you literally draw cub art, you lost the right to be upset at the people in your comments encouraging and loving it because that is the exact audience you pander to. Yes its gross and uncomfortable but you invited it in with open arms by providing weirdos with exactly what they want lmao

This isnt at all about cub art. I dont care that this site is covered in it because i literally dont interact with it. I log in when i have something to post, i post it, and i log out. My issue is that because this site is mostly cub art, its also mostly weirdos that engage with cub art, and a lot of times they spill over into my comments or dm's and just make me wish i wasnt here. So now im not lol

Your art is dope btw, that style pops off, just unfortunate the state of things here
PantyRanger
1 year ago
My main content isn't cub art.
And most of my art isn't cub.

I mean, I drawn it in the past, but no, I don't pander to that audience at all.
I'm just a toon artist, man. Unless the proportions are throwing you off.
sashtrash
1 year ago
No i can tell you draw it a lot less... but you still draw it. And you used to draw it a lot more. So im like... ok what did you expect from your comments lol
Most your art is great, im just sayin you cant complain about freaks when you're the one literally handing them the freaky shit they want, even if its now and then.
PantyRanger
1 year ago
Hm.
LustPuppet
1 year ago
OP's art style doesn't stand out as looking any more or less underage looking than yours. It's not even the real reason people get bad comments here or I'd have more of them.
PantyRanger
1 year ago
I want people to please stop responding to my posts.
I will never address this subject again. I'm washing my hands of this.

God I wish I could delete comments.
LustPuppet
1 year ago
Fair and apologies then.
eeveefan
1 year ago
ill probably get hate for this but.. ive seen some of the cringy comments people make, especially on toddler porn (like jesus christ wtf is wrong with some people..) and yeah i kept myself away from that shit. i dont do cub art myself, never drew it anyways. well... sort of. if i draw cub its strictly sfw cause i want to avoid the creeps. ive seen countless comments over the years on cub art that really make me question if i myself still want to be in this community. i been here for 9 years and i made some amazing friends here, but really where would i go? where COULD i go?
Smolfoks
1 year ago
Outside of personally curated communities, you aren't going to find a furry platform that isn't /the big cringe/

I wish you luck wherever you plan on taking your art
alphamule
1 year ago
I'm starting to feel like it's life in general...  Posers, haters, fools, creeps, and grown-ups acting like children in the worse possible way, everywhere.  2023:  Year of the Cringe
nyasukitty
1 year ago
Sorry to bother you.
XThatGuyX
1 year ago
Were you planning on using any platform other than just Twitter?
sashtrash
1 year ago
yes, FA ill start posting on more, but thats about it for now
MyNameIsOver20charac
1 year ago
Wait, you think IB has a bad tagging system so you're moving to FA? Am I missing something???
Lanxide
1 year ago
Thank you for not deleting your gallery.
EclypseSkunk
1 year ago
Will definitely miss your content, and wish you well!
eeveefan
1 year ago
i understand why youd leave to. i been here for 9 years and seen some very VERY nasty and disturbing comments myself, so i understand how you feel. but where would you go? twitters a forest fire next to a very active volcano. da and fa are massive dumpster fires. idk of many sites out there accepting of furry content.
hell the stuff i draw sometimes looks like cub as well but i always draw adult content. if it is cub its strictly sfw. i think the key difference here is im not on ib looking for fame or anything like that. but hey people do what they want i guess.  its sad to see ya go but i do hope to see you around sometime. please take care! <3
Tycloud
1 year ago
Thats sad news. I kinda liked Remmi.
LeonEgyxos55
1 year ago
Super sad/bummed to c u go…….I really liked to c most of ur work…… ^n^  ^TnT^…..Is there anywhere else I can c ur work besides patreon (since I don’t have access to debit/credit card)? Let me know asap so I can continue cing ur work in all its full glory thx
alphamule
1 year ago
The shouts on your profile... a couple of them are pretty negative comments.  :(  What is up with those two people?
UnbalancedFlip
1 year ago
Honestly, as someone who started at a couple points trying to get some writing here and ended up deleting my gallery for all the people with not even basic respect or decency, I gotta say I understand and that you deserved better than you got. Enjoy those greener pastures.
Budu
1 year ago
Fair, I tend to keep my faves private and barely comment. also fuckin fave limit UUUUUUUUGGGGHHHHHHH
(EDIT: for anyone curious the limit is 18k, I've lost so many faves before I realized T~T)
LotoLalafell
1 year ago
bye fren ;w;
CinnamonFox
1 year ago
Sad to see you go but its perfectly reasonable to distance yourself from bad actors.


ScottySkunk
1 year ago
see you space cowboy
Psy101
1 year ago
Not so fast you~!

Take care tho
MostValuedPony
1 year ago
The only tagging system that is good in my opinion is Derpibooru. It has the auto filling you were talking about, but you can also follow tags you like UNLIKE E621 and also artists. Plus, derpi just has a lot of funny tags that are specific to that community, which a more general furry website can not have.

Only problem is that Derpibooru gets filled with the most sluttiest, non-con, female focused, and downright toxic art ever. Since the show ended, all creativty has dipped down so low that the only thing people can think to draw (or rather... the only thing worth drawing) is just mare pussy getting dicked down. Plus even if there were still creative ideas people had which included passion and romantic themes, it wouldn't matter anyways because the top artists have figured out that the easiest and most efficient ways to get clicks is to just post a picture of Rainbow Dash saying "You'll never catch me!" and then just have her getting fucked in the next image.
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