Leaving IB by sashtrash < Journal | Inkbunny, the Furry Art Community

Hey, that's what it means to be a furry! =3

RIPInkbunny

2 years ago

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@ VarraTheVap

I suppose. x3

I just mean those that leave overly sexual/overly creepy comments. Had to deal with one fur who wouldn't leave me alone for 2 years. He was constantly making sexual/creepy comments towards me and kept block evading.

theuncalledfor

2 years ago

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If someone is block evading then that's a bit more than a lack of social awareness. That's cyberstalking. You should report them if you haven't already.

RIPInkbunny

2 years ago

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@ theuncalledfor

I think I did, but not 100% sure, either way, I hadn't dealt with them in 4-5 years so.. yeah

theuncalledfor

2 years ago

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Oh, it's a long time ago. Good.

alphamule

2 years ago

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@ theuncalledfor

Yeah, eww. That is not cool!

Tigerfestivals

2 years ago

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That's like, super creepy and fucked up. Good that you were able to get them to stop but...what the hell is wrong with some people

sashtrash

2 years ago

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@ VarraTheVap

No it doesnt but hey you do you, i cant stop anyone from enjoying their social cesspool lol

Nightdancer

2 years ago

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That's sad, I always liked your art.
Imho, the tagging system is one of the good points. It's horrible everywhere else.

VarraTheVap

2 years ago

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Huh, IB has a really good tagging system if you ask me..
Guess no site can be perfect for everyone >w<
Take care!

Etis

2 years ago

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@ VarraTheVap

e621 has a good tagging system. Here... It is a mess. It needs standardization, aliases and actual enforcement.

WhiteSky

2 years ago

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Yeah, it could be better, but it feels like more people are tagging their images here at least than on FurAffinity. I've seen plenty of artists don't add any tags or even take the time to select the category, species and gender.

I feel like it should be less the responsibility of the moderators to tag images though and more of the artists. Because it would just lead to more lazy artists not tagging their stuff properly because they can just leave it to the moderators.

sashtrash

2 years ago

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FR i love e621's tagging system so much that i used to just do it all there, then copy/paste it all to this sites shitty tagging system so i didnt have to deal with it lol, that really made it a pain in the ass to upload anything here for me.

WhiteSky

2 years ago

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Out of curiosity, what's so bad about this tagging system compared to e621 in your opinion? I may have not realized something and it could help me understand where you're coming from.

sashtrash

2 years ago

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Im sorry but if you cant spot the difference between the two you prolly just needa post on e6 and ib more often cus its actually night and day. Manually typing tegs for everything on here is for the birds, e6 actually gives you an A-Z list of related tags and you just have to click the ones that apply ezpz

WhiteSky

2 years ago

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Inkbunny also has tag suggestions, if that's what you mean. It may not be that intuitive to you, but you can prefer what you want after all. :D

sashtrash

2 years ago

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Under the tagging text box theres a related option labled "Tags". When you click that, it automatically comes up with related tags to the ones in the box already. This site doesnt have that, you have to manually type in every single tag you can think of instead of a system that finds related tags for you, including obscure tags that you definitely wouldnt know to fill in yourself.

At this point im just telling you so that you can make your life easier, cus that tagging system is the best out of any site. But hey who am i to talk ive only been posting consistently on multiple sites for 10+ years what do i know :p

WhiteSky

2 years ago

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No need to be rude here please. I wasn't aware of this feature on e621 because it doesn't bother me to type out every single tag, even if it takes me a minute to do. But I appreciate that you still told me about it as it does seem to be a good feature. Now I'm wondering how difficult it is to implement it on a site that hasn't started with a tagging system like on e621. It would be nice if it were on every art site though.

sashtrash

2 years ago

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Dont mean to be rude to you, but yeah im more than happy to bring that to your attention cus it really is a godsend when tagging. Hopefully every site can get with the program but id be surprised if ANY furry site would dare try to innovate lol

WhiteSky

2 years ago

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Yeah, innovation seems to be rare these days, I agree with you on that. Not only on furry art sites, but everywhere. And if a site tries to innovate it mostly goes bad. like twitter. When you can even call it innovation. xD

Thank you for your help though, I will probably use this feature from now on. :D

Hornybunny

2 years ago

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What they mean is autocomplete of sorts. start typing in a tag and it'll give a list of related tags. so if you type in asshole, it'll suggest anus and replace asshole with anus.

Inkbunny does that for tag suggestions, but not for adding tags to something you're gonna post.

alphamule

2 years ago

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Edited 2 years ago by Owner

It gets better:  You can create custom lists of quick tags (under advanced account settings - same place as blacklist and site customizations like themes and user CSS).  Oh, and you can just have blank lines between groups of them and cut/paste the ones you plan on working the most with to the front to change order.
I do that for all tags related to Divine Acid web comic, for example.  Common tags for that comic means I can just click on the ones I want.  It turns out that the quick tags are available while uploading, but you have to already add at least one normal tag like say, artist name.  Not something like parent:xxxxxx or pool:xxxxx or other tags that do something 'special'.

That said... flip side of this is that e621 tagging is a total time-sink and is running into situation where there's more images posted to the site in last 2 or 3 years, than all the years before.  A really good resource for artists is the Wiki system, though.  I used it to show examples and descriptions of all the main characters in Divine Acid, as it gets uploaded and tagged.

https://e621.net/wiki_pages/51699

What some do is just have their IB or other accounts for posting things like a soap box/personal gallery, and then use e621's search system to gain exposure from source links to receive commissions from fans.

TalentlessHack

2 years ago

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People not using it for starters. People thinking since this place is the "Default" place for cub smut, they can just not tag it as such.

PilloTheStar

2 years ago

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Yeah e6 definitely has the best tagging system. Too bad it has the worst everything else. XD

LustPuppet

2 years ago

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Edited 2 years ago by Owner

e621 forces uncomfortable or incorrect words in a lot of tags. pretty much nowhere has a perfect tagging solution, probably not even possible since everyone has different preferences. they also force broad policies about comments and such, instead of leaving things to the discretion/desires of the artist... e621 is just okay, like here is just okay

Etis

2 years ago

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@ LustPuppet

Well, it is inevitable, since there is often no universally comfortable and correct ones. But it is functional.

LustPuppet

2 years ago

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Edited 2 years ago by Owner

yeah, much as I find other systems functional. there's tradeoffs to every environment and system. I had a lot of bad experiences with FA, DA, and E621, but here it's been oddly minimal, I don't fully understand why... I've watched people claim it has to do with drawing certain content yet that comes from people that draw it less and got more shit... it's all mysterious

discorat

2 years ago

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lol...wow

WhiteSky

2 years ago

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I personally like that people here tag at least more than the people on FurAffinity, since in the latter it's rare that people even tag their images. No wonder that a blacklist system there doesn't work if no one even tags their stuff. And on Inkbunny you don't have to tag everything, the basic stuff is enough, else people just add tags for you if you let them.

About the people here, I feel like it depends where you are. I've seen similar comments on FurAffinity so I think it's just the furry fandom in general.

But you made your own experiences here and it's understandable that you want to leave because of that. Take care and I wish you the best. :D

Onihidden

2 years ago

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this is a huge shame, sorry to hear, i adore your art

saw your shouts and read that stupid message by some idiot retracting their favorite, so i 100% understand you hating the community here

hope you can post in a more fulfilling website

sashtrash

2 years ago

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@ Onihidden

Funnily enough i could care less about that one single comment lol dude was just ranting aloud about literally nothing

Its the DM's i get that are usually sketchy

Mircea

2 years ago

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That's unfortunate: I was following you here exclusively. Hope you will come back someday!

CrystalMendrilia

2 years ago

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Alright buddy, I hope the best for you and that you find what you seek out there! ^_^ At least the cringe community here isn't quite like FA yet lol

sashtrash

2 years ago

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@ CrystalMendrilia

I rarely post on FA and have been there a lot longer, but just the fact that this site allows cub means that this site is gonna get more cringe comments, period. Sure FA is bad but thats just furries in general... at least theres waay less closet pedos. "Wish that were me" hits very different on here euggh ;;;;

CrystalMendrilia

2 years ago

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I cannot agree with you more on that front. ~_~ "Oh yes daddy, do me like that too OOOO WOOOOO" (said out loud)"

My issues with FA are more about censorship and political bias from the staff, but yeah the cringe is..... Strong. I tend to avoid it in my circles at least. Though I have been given a strike on FA for speaking out against raping kids, which upon appeal they double downed on it. That was an experience.

By the way, your profile avatar animation cracks me up. It's really cute in a violent way. :P

sashtrash

2 years ago

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@ CrystalMendrilia

Very fair that site is fucked in other awful ways lmao, maybe ill just never post anywhere cus furries will always be cringe

CrystalMendrilia

2 years ago

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Well, my honest suggestion is to post if you want to post, for your own reasons. Don't worry about others so much. :P Every fandom has weirdos in them!

Enjoy yourself, others will enjoy you. ^_^

Song for you!

https://youtu.be/UjRTwdewvG8?si=Cphm64tfKv0PtRCX

sashtrash

2 years ago

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@ CrystalMendrilia

Yeah of course, ik you dont know me but trust me, i dont worry a peep about what others think. Ill always find a place to show off my work and there will always be haters, but they make me STRONGER

Thanks for the jam too lol

CrystalMendrilia

2 years ago

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Thanks for the pics buddy. :) I hope you find what you seek out there! ^_^

DanielBunny

2 years ago

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Can I ask what exactly you find "cringe" about comments on cub porn? The way you're wording this reads a little icky

alphamule

2 years ago

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I guess a different kind of cringe. Some of the stuff I saw on Deviant Art makes me wonder if that site even has moderators. People openly cyberstalking, doxing, harassing comments, etc. It's like Kiwi Farms spilled over into the other sites.

Roobles

2 years ago

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Love your art, but completely understand the decision. I wish you well, and hope you find spaces that better suit you.

TigerB

2 years ago

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Sure have fun, i mean that is some large horse you sit on. I assumed that kind cringe i exactly your alley, when i look at your uploads.

sashtrash

2 years ago

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@ TigerB

You dont even follow me bro lol why you tryna instigate some shit lmao

Prime example of why im hoppin out this place no cap. Big talk from someone jerking off to all the cub rape shit in your faves. Take it easy and stay out of trouble fr

TigerB

2 years ago

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Oh, now i see i hit a point. No wonder you can't take any critics yourself. I did follow you for years btw, but your cringe made me un-follow you.

sashtrash

2 years ago

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@ TigerB

Currently you are my biggest critic lmao go fuckin cry about it little man

CowboyBboy

2 years ago

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Where can we find your art moving forward?

sashtrash

2 years ago

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@ CowboyBboy

Just e6 and twitter for now, maybe ill start posting to FA again

PilloTheStar

2 years ago

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I had my account for 4 years without posting any art til now for the exact same reasons lol. Oh well. Hope to see your art elsewhere. 👌

TalentlessHack

2 years ago

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Yeah people don't tag their shit here. Fucking annoying. People assume since this is the "Default safe space" to post cub art, they don't need to tag it. Not all of us wanna look at your Lisa Simpson porn or whatever

betteroldoe

2 years ago

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@ TalentlessHack

IB has that reputation tbh because its the big site that does allow cub tbh

PilloTheStar

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ TalentlessHack

Lisa Simpson porn ain't even allowed here dumbass, she's human. Only underage animals permitted on this wholesome family friendly site.

ArenConcordia

2 years ago

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Yeah, the tagging system here is not great. Although honestly, people are people everywhere, and some people are just cringe. I don't think that's an IB specific issue.

Tigerfestivals

2 years ago

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It's not like twitter is really any better as far as cringe goes, but you do what's best for you I guess.

sashtrash

2 years ago

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@ Tigerfestivals

Idk why you n others are defending this site like that lol, its a cesspool through n through that i, and many of my friends that i respect, have happily walked away from.

Tigerfestivals

2 years ago

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I don't see how I'm defending it though. I'm on both sites so I was just saying what I've noticed. People are weird here, I just think it's odd to act like Twitter is some how greener pastures when its its own kind of trashfire.
Maybe I'm missing something though or you're being vague, a shit tagging system and people being "cringe" can be annoying and perfectly valid reasons to leave but judging by your tone it seems like theres more to it than that.

PantyRanger

2 years ago

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I might get shit with this comment.
I assume this is about cub art.

I haven't made a journal about it, but while I do like ink bunny and generally I don't have a issue with cub art specifically, I've been kind of turned off from drawing it because goddamn, people get fucking weird on here.
There's something about the obsessive way some people who solely engage with it that just makes shit uncomfortable.

Also, admittedly, I don't like that this place seems to be cub art central. It's the big content driver.
I dunno, people can do what they want, but I guess I prefer variety in things.

Like, I got very little drive for it and just been focused on my adult characters mostly.
God Speed wherever you go. You make good art. I'd love to follow to see the rest of it.

sashtrash

2 years ago

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My man you literally draw cub art, you lost the right to be upset at the people in your comments encouraging and loving it because that is the exact audience you pander to. Yes its gross and uncomfortable but you invited it in with open arms by providing weirdos with exactly what they want lmao

This isnt at all about cub art. I dont care that this site is covered in it because i literally dont interact with it. I log in when i have something to post, i post it, and i log out. My issue is that because this site is mostly cub art, its also mostly weirdos that engage with cub art, and a lot of times they spill over into my comments or dm's and just make me wish i wasnt here. So now im not lol

Your art is dope btw, that style pops off, just unfortunate the state of things here

PantyRanger

2 years ago

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My main content isn't cub art.
And most of my art isn't cub.

I mean, I drawn it in the past, but no, I don't pander to that audience at all.
I'm just a toon artist, man. Unless the proportions are throwing you off.

sashtrash

2 years ago

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No i can tell you draw it a lot less... but you still draw it. And you used to draw it a lot more. So im like... ok what did you expect from your comments lol
Most your art is great, im just sayin you cant complain about freaks when you're the one literally handing them the freaky shit they want, even if its now and then.

PantyRanger

2 years ago

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Hm.

LustPuppet

2 years ago

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OP's art style doesn't stand out as looking any more or less underage looking than yours. It's not even the real reason people get bad comments here or I'd have more of them.

PantyRanger

2 years ago

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@ LustPuppet

I want people to please stop responding to my posts.
I will never address this subject again. I'm washing my hands of this.

God I wish I could delete comments.

LustPuppet

2 years ago

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Fair and apologies then.

eeveefan

2 years ago

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ill probably get hate for this but.. ive seen some of the cringy comments people make, especially on toddler porn (like jesus christ wtf is wrong with some people..) and yeah i kept myself away from that shit. i dont do cub art myself, never drew it anyways. well... sort of. if i draw cub its strictly sfw cause i want to avoid the creeps. ive seen countless comments over the years on cub art that really make me question if i myself still want to be in this community. i been here for 9 years and i made some amazing friends here, but really where would i go? where COULD i go?

Smolfoks

2 years ago

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Outside of personally curated communities, you aren't going to find a furry platform that isn't /the big cringe/

I wish you luck wherever you plan on taking your art

alphamule

2 years ago

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@ Smolfoks

I'm starting to feel like it's life in general... Posers, haters, fools, creeps, and grown-ups acting like children in the worse possible way, everywhere. 2023: Year of the Cringe

nyasukitty

2 years ago

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Sorry to bother you.

XThatGuyX

2 years ago

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Were you planning on using any platform other than just Twitter?

sashtrash

2 years ago

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@ XThatGuyX

yes, FA ill start posting on more, but thats about it for now

MyNameIsOver20charac

2 years ago

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