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MaverickSkye

Clearing up some confusion

There's...a lot happening right now in terms of what's going on here in the grand old US of A. I'm not going to be combative here and honestly, despite how angry I am. How hurt I am. How absolutely fired up I am...I'm not here to give you all that. I have other friends who are spilling their hearts to you, the audience. I want to be here to explain some things leaving emotions aside.

I want to talk about these protests.

Clearing the air part 1: Why?

Why are we protesting? Why are we rioting? Because we are tired. As a black male I am tired. I am tired of seeing people that are like me getting killed and there being no recourse for it until dang near national action is taken to make something happen. It shouldn't be that way. A murder is a murder. Sad because there's been quite a lot of these as of late, by police, racists, and racist police.

George Floyd was not the the straw that broke the camel's back. Ahmaud Arbery was not the straw. Breonna Taylor was not the straw. They were the lead weights that were a ton on our backs. And normally we are strong enough to carry that burden. And hate that burden. But that's no longer the case. We're not employed right now, we're not making money right now. We have much less to lose than we have to gain. If there was ever a good time to take to the streets to protest, it's now.

And on the subject of protesting. Do I like riots? No. Am I mad at them for rioting? Not at all. And I'm saying this as someone who was directly impacted by it, My job was broken into and there was so much damage. Not to mention the street downtown that was most damaged is where I hold so many memories...wrecked. But I'm not angry at them. Because I get it. I really do.

Why are the riots here? Because we've tried everything else. We've done the silent, peaceful protests by taking a knee during the National Anthem. We were told that "this isn't the way" we were told we "hate the troops" (even though that talking point has ZERO to do with it, considering it was a Marines veteran that told Capernick that this was the most proper way to do so) and we were called "Sons of Bitches" by the leader of the free world for protesting. So if we can't do it peacefully, then why not do it in a way that will get attention?

" “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

- John F Kennedy

[Remarks on the first anniversary of the Alliance for Progress, 13 March 1962]”

These words ring true. We were told that there has to be another way every time we try to make a protest. So every time we're silenced...that's shaking contents under pressure. And the pressure mounts and mounts until we have...this. This could've been avoided. This wasn't what anybody wanted to do.

And now, here we are.

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Part 2: Who are out there?

We have multiple factions out here on the ground in this battle. It isn't a 2-faction front, Protestors and Police, as people have been seeing it. Both of them have multiple squads.

Police:

* Officers trying to keep the peace
* Officers joining the protests
* Officers causing trouble and getting violent

Protestors:

* Peaceful protestors. Ones with signs, ones speaking. Ones standing for the cause they believe in

Rioters:

* Police that have been stirring up people and creating chaos by damaging buildings themselves to blame the protestors.
* Anarchists who are out there just to destroy. Some are doing it out of anger of the issue, and some are doing it because they feel like causing trouble.
* White Supremacist groups that have come from different places to destroy minority businesses under the guise of being protestors.
* People who are angry and want to stick it to the government and businesses for what's been done to keep the lower class down over all these years.
* Organized criminals who want to smash and grab. To make a quick profit without any regard to who they harm in the process.

There's no broad brush to paint here. There are hundreds of motives, and I'm sure I missed more than a few factions out there. My point is, we cannot look at it as two different sets of people when there are more than we know.

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Part 3: Black Lives Matter

This is the part that's been a kicker for me online. What does "Black Lives Matter" mean? It means that we are here, and we want to stop getting killed with no recourse. It means we want to stop being treated differently and negatively just because we are who we are.

It does NOT mean that we wish to exclude anybody. And yes, I know there are extremists out there that will say "whites are the problem" or "everyone is racist if they don't agree." They are the minority of the movement...they just happen to be the loudest. A majority of us just want to be seen as the same in the eyes of the law and the eyes of people.

Black Lives Matter means "Black Lives Matter, too." "Black Lives Matter as much as any other race." That's what we want. We want to be able to live in peace and not get shot up while we're in bed. To be chased down and executed because someone thinks we might be up to something. To be able to not be told that we're going to have the cops called on us just for asking someone white to do the right thing. See where we're going with this.

A lot of people like to bring statistics in here. I want to say that raw data doesn't matter when it all boils down to it. I'm not going to get into the raw nitty-gritty of it, but I will say that it's true that blacks are in general treated differently, treated as less in society as a whole. And we want that to end. That's what this is about.

We want to be treated like we matter.

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Part 4: All Lives Matter

I agree! All lives DO matter. But trying to coopt Black Lives Matter by saying All Lives Matter is, in effect, silencing black voices and making them matter less by trying to bury it in the pile of "all" as though we're already equal. We are not equal. We are treated lesser. So by trying to pretend as though it's all equal is not the same. And All lives can't matter cannot exist when black lives do not matter.

By shouting down BLM with ALM shows that you have no regard for BLM, and thus, All Lives can't truly matter to you.

Instead of trying to shout it down, and shout over the movement, the calls for equality, understand why people are saying "Black Lives Matter, too!" There's so much more than what's on the surface. We want love. We want peace. We want much, much less pain.

Please try to understand.

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This is Maverick giving his educational moment. Please do your best to keep your vitriol to a minimum if you're going to comment to me. I love you all, and I still pray for peace to return.

Thanks for listening.
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Added: 3 years, 11 months ago
 
RenChu
3 years, 11 months ago
Man, I wish I could favor the hell out of this journal, I couldn't have said it any better.
Weiss
3 years, 11 months ago
Careful Mavy, you keep talking sense and rationally in a cool and calm demeanor and you'l end up here. I'm not kidding, this is some thing that exists. This is a list of a bunch of Youtubbers/gaming companies that support BLM and apparently all of them are "traitors to America" and have "incited riots" according to the schmuck that wrote the list
KNIFE
3 years, 11 months ago
That list is sooo....weird....I don't even know WHAT to think!    O.o
Weiss
3 years, 11 months ago
All of the people in the list support Blacklivesmater and thus are deemed traitors to American by a single angry gamer, aka a single racist a hole
KNIFE
3 years, 11 months ago
But if that's the ONLY criteria for being on the list ( being a traitor to the US) then this "person" has REALLY missed the mark!

I know saying that is redundant and obvious in the extreme but...DAMN!!

















CuriousFerret
3 years, 11 months ago
Respect
HighVoltage
3 years, 11 months ago
I feel ya on this, and much as I'm one of those people that literally just earlier on here today said "all lives matter" I also truely understand why you say this, my stance is, and the reason I say all lives matter, is because this should not need to be a thing to begin with....  the fact that this IS a thing is disgusting, the fact that this happens so much that even you took the time to write out such a lengthy and well worded explanation is disgusting, THIS SHOULD NOT BE A THING, MURDER IS JUST THAT, MURDER, REGARDLESS OF WHO WAS THE ONE AS THE VICTUM....we are not in an age that this should be a thing anymore, this is NOT the dark ages...for fuck sakes this is the year 2020, TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY YEARS AFTER THE BC TO AD TIME SWAP (religion aside, whatever terminology you want to use) this is literally nausiating to me, that this is a thing, and such a frequent thing at that.  *hugs tight*

unrelated note, I never knew you were of african american heritage...or however you want to word that...learned something new today.
Chantelle
3 years, 11 months ago
I'd heard someone made the quote recently that 'If you reply to Black Lives Matter with All Lives Matter, it's like if I asked you what 2+2 is and you reply with 'It's not 3'. While you are technically correct it's not the solution.
KevinSnowpaw
3 years, 11 months ago
" Part 3: Black Lives Matter

This is the part that's been a kicker for me online. What does "Black Lives Matter" mean? It means that we are here, and we want to stop getting killed with no recourse. It means we want to stop being treated differently and negatively just because we are who we are.

It does NOT mean that we wish to exclude anybody. And yes, I know there are extremists out there that will say "whites are the problem" or "everyone is racist if they don't agree." They are the minority of the movement...they just happen to be the loudest. A majority of us just want to be seen as the same in the eyes of the law and the eyes of people.


I agree with you 100% though we do differ a little on our opinions on the riots.. I do still Understand... you did a fantastic job outlineing the real situation and how... honestly complex it is.


I qouted the above text becouse I feel it's importent. That Extream Minority? you guys need to rain them in! the onious should NOT be on you... but as a White male, I CANT say anything to them without being labled racist. BLM's Optics are terrible, beocuse of a small minority of people. I am with you Nobody should ever fear for there lives based on there skin color thats.. incredably horrible! When the movement can get those extream minority members under control or exclude them effectively, your going to see a lot less people saying BLM is to extream.

I support the majority who just want to live a normal life. :(
Keeran
3 years, 11 months ago
They don’t represent the views of BLM, and if you look at enough videos, you see that there’s people who have done their part to turn looters in.
But again, that’s just making assumptions that everyone who’s conservative has to control the neo-nazis, skinheads, klansmen, and other white nationalists to get their point across.
Not to mention, a lot of the looters this round weren’t black or poor. They were people who looked like they could make enough money to get the stuff they were stealing. To top it off, people have been exposing cops trying to set people up, so the answer’s not so clear cut.
KevinSnowpaw
3 years, 11 months ago
well.. to a greater extend most right wing and conservative types DO actively denouce and work against white supremasists and neo nazis.

and im not saying BLM is not trying to do the same, All i was doing was outlineing how importent it is at the moment to do so.
Keeran
3 years, 11 months ago
Well, with what has been circulating around Social media, they are just doing that, trying to weed out looters, cleaning up after riots, exposing people who have been doing wrong and sharing information around.
Meanwhile you have undercover cops like these guys trying to derail everyone and cause more trouble.
KevinSnowpaw
3 years, 11 months ago
It's a really fucked up mess isn't it.
Keeran
3 years, 11 months ago
Yeah
KoCorona
3 years, 11 months ago
You're Black too? Kinfolk
lavilovi
3 years, 11 months ago
Absu-freaking-lutely!!!!!
TwoTails
3 years, 11 months ago
Yeah, you clearly spelled it out.

But I'm afraid the main problem of people not knowing how bigotry hurts all of society is being lost in the havoc.
The people running things tend to either not know better or just plain hate to care.
The latter usually can't be taught squat.
So they'll just get mad at people, which just flames the anger of people that have no good option but to raise hell.
So some of the main keys are better education of civilization and removing social barriers between races, after-all kinda hard to be racist when you have good friends & neighbors of various races.
But that takes time.

For now I fear many will need to use violence to defend themselves, until the malicious corrupt are voted out or especially if they prevent better people from being elected..
ZwolfJareAlt306
3 years, 11 months ago
Thank you for sharing your insight.
*Offers hugs*
Harurin
3 years, 11 months ago
My father is a small business owner, he's scared and went to arm himself to stay safe. All of this is giving people paranoia, don't let your mental health be damaged! Stay safe :C
Keeran
3 years, 11 months ago
Honestly, the best thing he can do is put money towards umbrella insurance. Trying to get guns to protect his store is a waste of money when you could get coverage for damaged or stolen property.
Harurin
3 years, 11 months ago
I agree with you on that, :/ old dude stuck in his ways. I'm glad I didn't inherit his bullheadedness.
TheTatteredKitty
3 years, 11 months ago
Nicely Shaid Big Bwudder. *Hugs*
nokeji
3 years, 11 months ago
It's great to talk about it, even on here. Penting up what we think is unhealthy. Godspeed brother.
IsabelleUrsaga
3 years, 11 months ago
Very well said, Mavy. Its sad to see so many people who just... don't understand, or don't *want* to understand.
LucidDreamdancer
3 years, 11 months ago
Very well said, little brother.... VERY well said... oh if I could hug you... and im sure plenty here do too...
caramelthecalf
3 years, 11 months ago
*huuuugs mavy hard*
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
Sorry man.
Even if one takes everything at face value, even if everything is attributed to righteous fury of the oppressed, you still dug your entire community another level deeper with these protests.

I very much disagree with how the police functions in america on a general basis, part because its a maffia at its core and part because its basically random idiots called in from the street with little to no education or training, handed a gun and then sent out to fear for their life and just shoot anything they find threatening.
Its a joke.
Even with the best of intention its a joke and it would require hard reform.

Despite that, i can only say that you did yourselves in when it comes to optics.
All the injustice, all the pain, all the oppression, all the anger, and what happens?
What happens?
A huge chunk of you goes out there and starts to do arson, starts to murder, starts to beat people within an inch of their life, then loot. God, youtube is full with trash wannabe black princesses stopping their car in the middle of the street to rush into a shop that is being looted and get something themselves.
All of this being done to random people. Whats even more ironical: Done to even blacks.
And then when you are asked to take responsibility for it as the black community, as a whole, what happens then?
You wash your hands of it.
Those people are somehow not you.
Not BLM
Not part of your movement
Not part of your community
Not part of your intent
Not part of anything you are related to

Right... well guess what... most white people are not part of the police either, not scumbags, not enemies of you, not oppressors of you, not murdering you, not kneeling on your necks, many of them are in fact in full support of you, and yet whats the message?
Whats the constant message?
Its that white people need to take responsibility for their privilege, for their actions, for their past, for the deeds of people 4, 5, 6, generations ago.
But we should understand that you are somehow not responsible for the extremist elements within your own movement and community.
Sorry
Really sorry
But no.
Remember when we started to reduce all encompassing concepts like racism to one sided sticks to beat whites with?
From a concept of skin color it was shifted to privilege + power so scumbags can be openly racist without being accused of racism.
And now this.

I will give you your words back.
Please try to understand.
Please try to understand that respect is a two way street.
From one human being to another.
From a brother to another.
You ask the impossible when you want us to shoulder everything, to be accountable and responsible for everything down to the deeds of people who have been dead for god knows how long, while you excuse yourself of your own people, your own communities, your own deeds during widespread looting and burning?

This is nothing more than adding insult to injury.
I can only repeat myself: Respect is a two way street.
If you cant take responsibility for the actions of your own community, you have absolutely no basis, no grounds, no place, no nothing to demand the same from another community, and as we speak, these optics have already did their work, deepening division, hatred and strife in many places where discourse has now become impossible and will probably directly lead to violence and actual extremism on the future.

Your lives matter.
They do. Too bad it cant be our lives cause this has to be about your pain and you feel drowned out by saying that we are all together. Too bad it cant be about bad apples among cops, too bad it cant be bad individuals among white people. Apparently... that as well is reserved only for you, who gets to excuse himself of all the rotten apples in your own basket.

Well regardless, crack a smile and down a beer. The future is as bleak and dark as ever.
I liked your post, it was honest, albeit very naive.
Maybe if everyone was this naive we could have a better world...
RexSatou
3 years, 11 months ago
My only take away from this is, you're essentially upset because the black community, that has has been tolerating this BS for what some 400 years, Give or take.... now, is refusing to call themselves the, Thugs, Hoodlums, etc, that you, and the rest of the people that are part of the problem are labeling them as.

all because after seeing this same old song and dance play out......Again for fuck knows how many times now, finally said "Fuck this shit were not putting up with this bullshit anymore"

Also factor in here, there are actual Instigators there, SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUAL COP'S
the peaceful protestors aren't doing this shit

There are cops shooting people between the, eyes with rubber bullets
your president, literally tear gassed peaceful protestors for a photo
A innocent 70 year old man was pushed over and damn near killed by cops
Your president is literally threatening to call in the army on normal civs


and your complaining because we decided were tired of this bullshit.
Do me a favor next time you feel the black community should take responsibility for something like this.

I want you to open a history book,
December 16, 1773, (Boston Tea Party)

I'm sure you'll find.....White people have started riots over less.
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
400 years...
See funny thing with history is that you can use it to justify anything if you just go back long enough in time.
And i do mean that honestly and fully
LITERALLY anything.

Its humanity's sacred book of grudges filled to the brim with blood.
We could have a history lesson on the fact that this story of slavery does not start 400 years ago and dates back much further in africa, where tribes sold off their kin to THE ENTIRE PLANET cause it was literally their culture to do so and Brits had to pretty much force them to break it up from Lagos to Adandozan.
There is even that famous conversation with the last king and market about children needing the knowledge and sentiment of an enemy in chains sold off as they go to sleep.

You want to be a hero?
You want to be a villain?
You want a reason to hate?
You want deep roots of identity? Just plunge your feet in a pool of blood left on the floor hundreds of years ago and you are done. You can now steal the pain of those who suffered and act as if it was your own .
History has it all. You only need to cherry pick.
Why bother with the picture as a whole, the all encompassing story when you can fabricate any kind of shait narratives for yourself?
You want me to open up a history book and check on the tea party cause "white people have started riots over less"? They sure did. You know what else? They were disguised as native americans too cause they didnt have enough spine to stand up straight for their beliefs either, so they just casually framed it on the natives till it became a point of pride, then they were suddenly there chest buffed out like the pathetic trash they are.
And what?
You want to use that trash as a user's manual or instruction booklet for behavior? As if it was something positive or as if it justified something?


Sorry man. Not playing these games.
Im just a lone human living my own life. I didnt wrong blacks, i didnt wrong feminists, i didnt wrong trans people or sjws, or commies, or whatever other fairytale groups exist out there these days, but year after year im being made out to be more and more of an evil that needs to be dealt with, that i need to repent for sins i never committed, that existed and have been perpetuated before i was even born, just because of the color of my skin.
Then we hit the final act where one can be looted, your belongings burned, your life be taken, and it will be excused.
It will be excused by people who ask to "please understand"
It will be excused by people like you who come up with a history lessons sundae on 400 years of oppression.
It will be excused by the media, the pundits, the twitterati and the rest of the social media.

And you casually ask me if im upset?
No. Im not upset. If anything i have given up. Im so beyond tired.
Im just watching society devolve back into a trash bin that resembles the middle ages, where things like murder, arson and looting sprees are suddenly acceptable forms of self expression.
The abandonment of social standards for the sake of the narcissism of individual groups because you need "lives matter" to be about you, about your color, about your pain, then go out and kill blacks who try to stop the looting cause f their lives.
Then turn around yet again and say that "no no no no, ofc all lives matter BUT..."
Yeah
"but"
but f my life regardless of the color of my skin if i stand in front of an angry mob out to loot and burn.
RexSatou
3 years, 11 months ago

OK your argument here is blacks did slavery first, and Brits forced them to stop......in Africa, ok so what?

it was also Brits that dragged those Africans to America, to force them to remodel land........that they stole, and when they were told to stop, they started a whole War. None of that is fabricated, or maybe it is who knows i wasnt born during that time period but that is what we are taught to believe to be the literal history of this Country.

"
Why bother with the picture as a whole, the all encompassing story when you can fabricate any kind of shait narratives for yourself?
You want me to open up a history book and check on the tea party cause "white people have started riots over less"? They sure did. You know what else? They were disguised as native Americans too cause they didnt have enough spine to stand up straight for their beliefs either, so they just casually framed it on the natives till it became a point of pride, then they were suddenly there chest buffed out like the pathetic trash they are.
And what?
You want to use that trash as a user's manual or instruction booklet for behavior? As if it was something positive or as if it justified something?


Just months ago we had the same race protesting......"Staying Alive during a global outbreak" not only protesting but walking around with guns, blocking off access to hospitals, Spreading a deadly disease,....because its their constitutional right  by doing that stupid shit they've done way more damage to the country than any BLM protest did to other humans. All Im saying is.

Black community: Treat us like Human fucking beings please.

Them: Its my constitutional right to die a pointless death that was easily avoided, so therefor I will use it.

My point here being: The rioting happening right now wouldn't be happening if people like you would stop being so Naive to the real issues.....Hell if they did........we'd probably have free healthcare in the country by now.

" I didnt wrong blacks, i didnt wrong feminists, i didnt wrong trans people or sjws, or commies, or whatever other fairytale groups exist


No one said you did....

" year after year im being made out to be more and more of an evil that needs to be dealt with, that i need to repent for sins i never committed, that existed and have been perpetuated before i was even born, just because of the color of my skin.


Kinda how I can walk outside and be shot for the color of my skin, actually let me rephrase that

Kinda how I can walk outside and be arrested, killed, shot, beaten, tasered, shot for trying to present my ID, Profiled while picking up a pizza (Literally happened mere hours ago) all before I even make it to prison for the color of my skin.

TLDR: Check your Privilege  

Also as the old saying goes, "If the shoe fits" no one here is saying you did any of what your ancestors did, but your definitely trying to make that shoe fit aren't you?

" Im so beyond tired.
Im just watching society devolve back into a trash bin that resembles the middle ages, where things like murder, arson and looting sprees are suddenly acceptable forms of self expression.


Our country has to actually EVOLVE before we can even be considered devolving genius.

Also
Said: Every black person that has watched a cop kill an innocent black man and walk free before the protesting starts.

And quite frankly, lets be real here, if anyone walked in front of angry people that are asking for basic human rights, and started counter protesting that plea for human rights, you pretty much deserve every bad thing that happens to you, that's not Eff your life that's fuck any brave idiots life.

All lives matter yes,
Black folks just want to be included in that "ALL" for once
and when you say All lives matter, as a counter protest to black lives matter
I don't hear a white person asking for equality, I hear a Klan member saying, "The "IMPORTANT" people matter"

So I have to ask.......Does that shoe fit yet?
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
" RexSatou wrote:
OK your argument here is blacks did slavery first, and Brits forced them to stop......in Africa, ok so what?

No. My argument was not that blacks did slavery first. My argument was that i dont give a singular flying f what happened 400 years before either of us were born. Quite ironically the same way you dont give a singular s about what blacks were doing 400 years ago.
Why? Cause it doesnt matter, so now that you got to that glorious conclusion, feel free to drop the talking point.

" RexSatou wrote:
Just months ago we had the same race protesting......"Staying Alive during a global outbreak" not only protesting but walking around with guns, blocking off access to hospitals, Spreading a deadly disease,....because its their constitutional right  by doing that stupid shit they've done way more damage to the country than any BLM protest did to other humans. All Im saying is.

Black community: Treat us like Human fucking beings please.
Them: Its my constitutional right to die a pointless death that was easily avoided, so therefor I will use it.
My point here being: The rioting happening right now wouldn't be happening if people like you would stop being so Naive to the real issues.....Hell if they did........we'd probably have free healthcare in the country by now.

Treat us like human fucking beings please...
Well aint that golden. See here is the problem... whenever someone attempts to hold you to human standards, you instantly dispose all of the responsibilities that come with being human.
You hold whites to a 400 year old standard m8, while you cant even be assed to take responsibility what your community did less than a week ago.

You are talking down the wrong pipe there.
I am FULLY holding you to account as another human being.
To talk to the racists who think you are an animal, you would need to turn around, and look at those who are in support of you.
The people who wear the mask of compassion. The people who think murder, arson, looting are all part of self expression for your kind. That black on black crime should be ignored cause its your culture, and besides, you cant really blame an animal for attacking another animal, it just doesnt know any better. How would you make a dog take responsibility? Its just its nature.

No man.
You are talking to someone who thinks of you as another human being.
Thats why he refuses to accept your bs excuses. If we as whites AS AN ENTIRE RACE are supposed to take responsibility for every individual trashbag psychopath out there, then the barest of the bare f-in minimums is that you do the exact same thing and you get your own community in shape.


" RexSatou wrote:
No one said you did....

Except you know, the entire point of that comment was that everybody does. From schools to the media, from all the hype ideologies these days out there, im a fcking antichrist. Not only was i born white, i was also born with a penis. To some, thats already 1 reason more to murder me than they would need.

Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
-Moved-
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
" RexSatou wrote:
Kinda how I can walk outside and be shot for the color of my skin, actually let me rephrase that
Kinda how I can walk outside and be arrested, killed, shot, beaten, tasered, shot for trying to present my ID, Profiled while picking up a pizza (Literally happened mere hours ago) all before I even make it to prison for the color of my skin.
TLDR: Check your Privilege  

Did that a few hundred times already.
Turns out i dont have the privilege to murder someone and then bailed out by Joe or a celebrity just because my skin is black.
I also dont have the privilege to talk sh*t about blacks cause thats apparently racist while talking sh*t about whites is just justice and the voice of the oppressed.
Probably also dont have the privilege to have cities be burned down in my name should anyone kneel on my neck.
I definitely dont have the privilege to loot and burn a shop and then have the media and half the planet excuse it for me.
I do have the privilege to be 24% more likely to be shot by police than a black person though. At least thats what Harvard says.

Well its a pretty long list. I dont want to make you bored, but yeah. Kinda did keep on checking my privilege till it turned out that anyone who just as much as mentions privilege is an ideologically indoctrinated bastard.

" RexSatou wrote:
Also as the old saying goes, "If the shoe fits" no one here is saying you did any of what your ancestors did, but your definitely trying to make that shoe fit aren't you?

Im afraid there are more than enough people out there who make that shoe fit on me regardless whether or not i want to wear it.
One would think that someone like you who is supposedly suffering stereotyping every day can relate to that, but apparently not.

" RexSatou wrote:
Our country has to actually EVOLVE before we can even be considered devolving genius.

Right. Cause you are still property and are forced to do the bidding of your owners.
I would tell you to check your fucking privilege already, but you might misunderstand my intentions.

" RexSatou wrote:
Said: Every black person that has watched a cop kill an innocent black man and walk free before the protesting starts.

I have absolutely zero idea what thats supposed to mean.
Remind me how many of your brethren stuck around on the crime scene and waited to be charged and incarcerated.
Yet where is that cop now? Who was charged in historical record time? Oh not only him, where are the other 3 cops who were there?
If you dont mind, i will call this line of yours simply for what it is: A hyperbole from an over privileged ass.
They were instantly fired, and persecution started on the same day. Charging a cop usually takes months, even in self evident situations (and im sure you can name a few instances, right?) but these were charged in a never before seen record time.

But pssst, hey, dont let that ruin your bs narrative.

" RexSatou wrote:
And quite frankly, lets be real here, if anyone walked in front of angry people that are asking for basic human rights, and started counter protesting that plea for human rights, you pretty much deserve every bad thing that happens to you, that's not Eff your life that's fuck any brave idiots life.

All lives matter yes,
Black folks just want to be included in that "ALL" for once
and when you say All lives matter, as a counter protest to black lives matter
I don't hear a white person asking for equality, I hear a Klan member saying, "The "IMPORTANT" people matter"

The irony is lost on you.
With one breath you refuse to be included in ALL, with the other you demand to be made part of it.
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
" RexSatou wrote:
So I have to ask.......Does that shoe fit yet?

Does it matter?
Im forced to wear it regardless whether or not it fits, because of the color of my skin.

The only difference is that i dont get to hide away in a dream world of self-perpetuated victim-hood where i get to believe that only i have it bad in life, only i am being stereotyped, only my people are being murdered, that i am the core of the planet and the center of the universe because i am so extra special. I also dont get the rest of the world step up to reinforce my delusions.

Much like Weiss said in a different comment, im the one who gets to live behind a dumpster and be still more privileged than Obama, because i am white and status, money, nothing matters. You can be a millionaire owning 7 homes and you'd be still a victim of mine, purely because you happened to be born black and i happened to be born white.

Thats but one of the shoes put on me and not on you, and on that note: Do me a solid and check your f-ing privilege..
RexSatou
3 years, 11 months ago
Wow, no your literally wearing the shoe because you're choosing to wear it. If you truly believed all lives mattered +blacks you would not have danced around that question.

Basically all this is at the end of the day is your just a white supremacist trying to justify your argument with your white guilt

Not even goin to address the rest of the bullshit you wrote because i mean it just leads back to the same conclusion.

You can lead a horse, but the dumbass horse would choose death if it meant "making America white again"
Or something like that.

But hey heres my suggestion if you truly believe the dumbshit you and weiss said, well when the next riot starts i want to see you at the front of the line explaining how you are the biggest victims in this World, destroy a city block while your at it rage at the fact that the whole world has been so god damn hard for you and your white skin.

Rage at how hard it is for you and your white skin to get a job, how hard it is for you and your white skin to survive a routine traffic stop, how hard it is for you and your white to vote, how hard it is for you to simply live.

Did you really just tell me to check my privilege, guys a self hating white supremacist just told me to check my privilege....were done here
Weiss
3 years, 11 months ago
Hey hey hey, the fuck are you putting me in the same boat as that shmuck for?
RexSatou
3 years, 11 months ago
he said it not me XD

i just ran with what he wrote, my bad lol
Weiss
3 years, 11 months ago
Ahd i see it now, you mean when he said"Much like Weiss said in a different comment, im the one who gets to live behind a dumpster and be still more privileged than Obama, because i am white and status, money, nothing matters." which is something i most certainly not said
RexSatou
3 years, 11 months ago
yea that lol
koppo9
3 years, 11 months ago
Can you send this shit to IBP because they made a really bad take on this shit.
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
" RexSatou wrote:
Wow, no your literally wearing the shoe because you're choosing to wear it. If you truly believed all lives mattered +blacks you would not have danced around that question.

Sorry Rex. No idea what meds you are on. I literally the started the conversation on the notion that all lives matter. Including black.
The dance was done by you, literally saying that you want to be included in all lives matter, but at the same time f all lives matter cause black lives matter.
Im also not the one who attempts to hold whites to 400 years of grudges while at the same time cant be assed to condemn what my community did a mere 3 days ago.

" RexSatou wrote:
Basically all this is at the end of the day is your just a white supremacist trying to justify your argument with your white guilt

White guilt means the exact opposite of what you suggested here... also i can relate to the fact that its the easiest way for you to save face while backing out of a conversation, but literally go fuck yourself for suggesting that im a white supremacist.
There are limits to how disingenuous of an spineless shit you can be.

" RexSatou wrote:
Not even goin to address the rest of the bullshit you wrote because i mean it just leads back to the same conclusion.
You can lead a horse, but the dumbass horse would choose death if it meant "making America white again"
Or something like that.

I have absolutely no f-ing idea what this means.

" RexSatou wrote:
But hey heres my suggestion if you truly believe the dumbshit you and weiss said, well when the next riot starts i want to see you at the front of the line explaining how you are the biggest victims in this World, destroy a city block while your at it rage at the fact that the whole world has been so god damn hard for you and your white skin.
Rage at how hard it is for you and your white skin to get a job, how hard it is for you and your white skin to survive a routine traffic stop, how hard it is for you and your white to vote, how hard it is for you to simply live.

Sorry man. Donno where you grew up, but around here murdering, looting and arson are not exactly accepted things.
Granted i dont belong in a protected group that gets all of this excused on all levels as means of self expression and "voice of the oppressed".

Also, i dont need to believe "the dumb shit" that has been said Rex, cause people like Tre Melvin state it to me as a fact and then have it day after day reaffirmed by people like you and Weiss, but hey: Add the privilege of not having to put up with that kind of shit to the list. You can add it right behind being able to save face by calling the opposition a racist/white supremacist as you back out of a conversation on which note once again: Grow the f up to a point where you can at least stand up straight and discuss your opinions without such underhanded, infantile, asshole tactics.
Fucking calling people white supremacists in order to save your ego. You unmitigated f-in dumpster fire.
dragonsvalor07
3 years, 11 months ago
Dude we get it your a racist piece of shit, we don't need a wall of text of you trying to defend your naive misguided bullshit take your Klan shit back to your rally.

Dude literally asked DOES THE SHOE FIT

logical answer would be, No it doesn't

Your response was, more jumbled bullshit of you trying to justify why you feel white people are more oppressed that black people, Anything you say after that does not matter please just shut the fuck up.

INB4
Yadda yadda Freedom of Speech, white people are more oppressed because *insert more bullshit wall of text here.*
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
" dragonsvalor07 wrote:
Dude literally asked DOES THE SHOE FIT
logical answer would be, No it doesn't

Are you really going to make me take responsibility for the fact that you cant read?
Cause i mean if you read anything i wrote, it should be obvious that it does not fit, but i guess sorry for not having spelled it out letter by letter for those among us who were stunted at growth.

Roughly 2/3 of that "jumbled mess" of a "wall of text" makes it obvious that it does not fit, but fuck me i guess its not obvious enough. In fact, you got me. You totally did. I have absolutely no way of proving what i wrote to someone who cant fucking read.
dragonsvalor07
3 years, 11 months ago
No I read plenty and quite frankly its just easier to call you a racist dumbass that cant learn.

but look at it this way

people are angry because they want human rights

your response to this is, essentially "These entitled animals are destroying things and getting away with it"

you're bitching because, the world makes you out to be the racist your ancestors were, UNLESS your literally giving people a reason to call you racist, Like i dunno protesting, basic human rights for black people, there is no way you're being made out to be this racist you, are making yourself out to be. (I presume that shoe actually does fit pretty well by that logic)

Because I can guarantee, if you were to step outside literally no one would look at you and instantly give you shit for being a racist, Unless you've given them a reason to think that about you.

so you're either a racist dumbass that refuses to learn

or just a regular self centered dumbass with a victim complex that refuses to learn.

IB4 ("Black people are the ones that have a victim complex, because I get treated worse for the color of my white skin)

Do the world and favor and dont breed
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
" dragonsvalor07 wrote:
No I read plenty and quite frankly its just easier to call you a racist dumbass that cant learn.

Oh okay. If its easier to call someone a white supremacist and a racist than to read a post properly then i apologize.
Gotcha.
This is the level the concepts of racism and white supremacy was reduced to.
It killed millions in such inhuman displays of violence and torture that even within the history of humanity where you have everything from religions preaching the murder of infants to existing as a weapons test dummy, it still has its own special place.
But enter 2020 and brainlet, unborn fetuses like yourself are using it cause "its easier" than reading and comprehending something.

Absolutely no irony in there whatsoever, and most certainly not when people like you discuss lives and privilege with this very same attitude.

" dragonsvalor07 wrote:
but look at it this way
people are angry because they want human rights
your response to this is, essentially "These entitled animals are destroying things and getting away with it"

Oh yes totally. I in fact spelled it out in detail that im not on about all the arson, looting and murder, i have an issue with people wanting human rights. Arson, murder and looting are totally fin... are you on crack or something? High? Suffering from brain damage? Are you mentally retarded? Off your meds?

Here i am condemning arson, looting and murder, amongst the many the murder of 4 black people, and you casually blend these concepts into fighting for human rights?
Are you sick in the head?

You casually throw it up that the murder of 10+ and the hundreds beaten to a bloody pulp are part of the fight for human rights.
Are these your standards for "human rights" you psychopath?
This is the exact same thing you touched in the head assholes are pulling with black lives matter. Praise George who was murdered by a white trashbag, but fuck blacks like David Dorn who was killed during your riots. I bet you would even call him an uncle Tom for trying to stop the looting.
Thats your standards for black lives matter afterall just like for human rights, am i right?

You know you ended up in a very special place as a human shit stain of a microbe when someone whom YOU call white supremacist schools your ass on all the black lives you shat on, stepped over and left in a puddle of blood, and you know what else?
Unlike subhuman trashbags like you, people on the all lives matter side actually care about ALL the black lives lost, and not just worship a ragebait hastag of a fucking masturbation tool for interracial violence where murdering blacks is instantly acceptable and perfectly okay as long its not done by a whitey.

I refuse to read the rest of your post. Go climb in Rex's asshole or wherever the f you want with your insanity and stay there till you die. Fucking racist piece of shit.
dragonsvalor07
3 years, 11 months ago
pfft the racist just called me a racist

You mad?
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
" dragonsvalor07 wrote:
pfft the racist just called me a racist
You mad?

Know what? I wish you will be able to keep on existing in your own little privileged shit bubble, continue shitting all over black lives which you self admittedly dont give a f about, and i SINCERELY hope that you wont get to reap the actual conclusion of the live action role play you are having on the streets.
I have enough humanity in me to not wish it on you to hold the bloodied corpses of your loved ones and friends even though thats exactly what you are digging yourself towards.

There is nothing more to tell you.
I sincerely hope you wont ignite the powder keg you are playing with. For the sake of everyone you ever considered a friend or loved one. May your blissful ignorance last.
RexSatou
3 years, 11 months ago
Im just gonna interject here and say,

This comment is hilarious just because im picturing you yelling it into a mirror as you type it xD
dragonsvalor07
3 years, 11 months ago
He blocked me,.........He mad :/
DewBunny
3 years, 11 months ago
Bruh, I know Dragon, he's a black guy. Explains your tilt though.
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
Well i dont know him, nor do i know you or Rex.
However, the color of your skin would be probably the last thing you should introduce yourself or someone else with unless you have some kind of racial agenda. Why the f should i care what color he is?
DewBunny
3 years, 11 months ago
Because literally all I've seen through this is you losing your shit. I don't debate with lost causes and you lost when you lost composure. You have no horse in the race here and you've already lost the war. Your argument is against human rights, you've made that plain. Your wording your mindset. It's all out there. You've made an enemy of your own phrasing because you don't understand facts. Look at the videos, look at news. The police are instigating, protesting against a decision of the higher ups for a grasp at power. a good number resigned to protest an unlawful assault. The cards are dealt and the deck is stacked. You have police dealing brutality and setting a stage for sheep like you to stoke a flame and keep the status quo. It's you I am most made at.

I know Dragon, I know Rex, I'm not arguing they aren't trolling you but you rose to it and shot them down with white supremacist logic. Your argument is hypocritical through and through and you can try and disguise and dissuade from the point. The fact is you are against upsetting the established balance that keeps things to your side of the argument. You barely present facts and you taint a debate with lashing out. You establish race without knowing the race of the other argument and you do it because this is the internet. You're not afraid to voice your opinion knowing you're untouchable. You think yourself safe in a tower but the honest truth is one slip, one mistake, your words will tear you down faster than any of your peers on this site could. You've threatened Rex for challenging your views and you've slandered Dragon as a racist and provided nothing to back your claims. It's high time you stand down and unlearn your bias.

It's a forgone relic of an age that should be dead. You are cutting a debate with something not meant for a debate and by doing so silencing a voice in your mind but the fact is. The idea, it's strong enough to not be killed by one person. You are disagreeing while the world over argues against you and you stand in defiance of a global opinion with your klansmen like superiority. As a white man in this race? As a human. Crawl back under your rock and shut the fuck up. You're outdated and obsolete.  You are a loop protocol that needs to be worked out of functioning society and your view points need never grace the table to begin with. You are the problem. Stop arguing a dying point and relish in the fact that this protest was built on one *man's* life. This isn't about you. It's not about me. It's about the human race as a whole and our willingness to keep a status quo and let others of our race be harmed.

In short, shut the ever living fuck up and walk away. None of this was your fight to begin with. You're a moron grasping at straws and hoping to spin it into gold in the end. You're already found out, you've been called out and your response is to block voices against you. You're like Trump, willing to talk a big game but unwilling to follow through unless you have a bunker to survive in. Do me a favor and order a pizza you'll be there a while and while I don't agree with you, I'd hate to see a pig starve in captivity. I'm blocking you straight out on this message. I don't need your hate, I have enough. If you need troll bait take it to 4chan. They'll stroke you off while you scream heil hitler and beat your meat. I'm done. Have a nice fucking life you trash.
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
Thank you Rex.
Keep on imagining. Its all fun and games till it stays in imagination and wont come to meet you on the street.
RexSatou
3 years, 11 months ago
Is that a threat
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
A threat? After all of this you think i would threaten you too you idiot?
Are you really this set on making this about you? Look outside the window. At any moment we could have a civil war over this bs. Thats what it means.

Its all fun and games as long you get to casually dismiss anyone you disagree with as white supremacist and what the f not in an online comments section.
It really is compared to what are balancing with in the real world.
RexSatou
3 years, 11 months ago
Am I really set on making this about myself.......Did you really ask that? You fucking did

The white guy complaining because he's so "oppressed" because his White America is being torn down a by actual Oppressed people, because they want the same human right's he's had for years that thinks every waking moment of his life he's looked at like he's a racist.

Wow dude just wow......
OK fine your not a white supremacist, but

You're definitely a dumbass with a victim complex that refuses to learn, id explain it to you one more time, but I have better things to do with my time, like watch the world become a better place, because the protesting your so against is actually working.

Its been nice talking to you  (Not really) Trolling you for a bit was fun tho, so there's that at least

to that I say
Thank you, Fuck you, Bye
DewBunny
3 years, 11 months ago
*dropping a mic* Dayumn.

I'd call 911 but I wouldn't want someone killed over the slaughter of a racist pig.
RexSatou
3 years, 11 months ago
He'd probably expect to be shot instead, since he's more oppressed than a black man apparantly
DewBunny
3 years, 11 months ago
buck fifty says he reports people because he lost the argument.

Ten bucks says it falls on deaf ears.
GavinAlvarez
3 years, 11 months ago
Hey... Broski... you lost this argument a long time ago

Your pseudo-intellectual flailing is beyond pathetic and quite frankly no one is going to miss your victim complex mindset when it's finally put to rest.

I yield my time

Fuck you~
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
" RexSatou wrote:
OK fine your not a white supremacist, but

Appreciate the honesty Rex. When you feel like it, stop for a moment and think about what you did there.
Cause you are right. Im not a white supremacist. I did neither deny nor question the validity of your problems or your pain.

What we clashed over was the idea that someone else could have it bad beside you.
When you feel like it, admit to that. Not to me ofc. Just to yourself.
So maybe when you have a discourse with someone the next time who thinks that we could find common ground on many of our pains and issues, you wont call him a racist because all you heard was that he is trying to steal your spot light of being the one who suffered the most.

Cause you know, whites are shot up by the police at twice the rate and number than blacks are, but even something like that means but one thing to you: That i try to lessen your pain, your victimhood. That im trying to invalidate the pain and rage you feel.
To you it does not mean that we have a common problem. It does not mean that we can empathize. It does not mean that we can relate to eachother. It means im taking away from you and for that you reached fore the simplest and most efficient weapon of denial: Calling me a white supremacist.

When you can admit to yourself that you have become someone who cant accept an outstretched hand and instead demand from everyone to take a knee, you will have a chance at solving the problems that plague not only you and your community, but most of america.
Cause for now all you did was to force a few democratic cities who never cared or had a spine to begin with, to take a knee. And at the same time you made sure that Trump is reelected.
Does that solve any problems, or did we just get a little bit closer to civil war and for the violence to escalate?
I'd say its the latter.

Oh and my heart goes out to your 3 bandwagoning, slightly retarded friends who couldnt contribute anything, but were right away there to support the idea that im a white supremacist. Rex at least had put an ounce of effort and honesty into his upset. Learn from him.
RexSatou
3 years, 11 months ago
I called you a white supremacist to piss you off, it worked, i laughed im satisfied, truth be told a clown is not something you try to educate, you can only sit back and laugh while they continue making a fool of themselves.

I also called you a dumbass that refuses to learn, which you danced around , thank you for proving my point

You're entitled to your opinion, but i just want you to know at the end of the day i just dont give a fuck


But your going to reply with another wall of text anyway so to that i say just keep dancing clown
Labyrias
3 years, 11 months ago
" RexSatou wrote:
I called you a white supremacist to piss you off

Taking racism this lightly doesnt put your message or your issues in a positive light you know... but meh... you dont try to educate a clown, right?

Whatever Rex. Seriously just whatever
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