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EtherSaga

Some people...

Why is it that when you tell someone the honest to god truth, they still throw stones at you calling you a liar? Calling you names and disrespecting you when you've given no animosity to warrant it?

Someone pointed a finger at me, threatened me. I told the most truest of truths, yet they still spat in my face. I swore on my good friends ashes (may his soul rest) that I'm not lying.

I'm not the kind to lie. I gave up lying when I was 16 and I got caught in a big lie that ended up landing me in community service for a month and a good friend of mine to leave me. I saw this and realized... it's not worth it, so why do it?

I'm a nice guy, and fair. My 'asshole' side of me is completely for satirical purposes. But if I done wrong, so help me I will own up to my mistakes. I'm a grown man (not a woman), I have responsibilities. I work, I pay bills, I pay taxes, I have a life. I have loving friends and an incredible girlfriend who believe me on every word I say. I'd be damned to kick that wall of trust down by doing something stupid like lying. I love the fact that people trust me.

If you're going to come at me, come at me like a normal being, not a ranting, blindsided bigot.

(Also... Coincidence: A striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by mere chance.)
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Added: 6 years, 7 months ago
 
Meanie108
6 years, 7 months ago
I've know you, like, a week, and now I trust you. Stop being magical.
fluffdance
6 years, 7 months ago
Simple:  People don't want to hear the truth.  They want to hear some random bullshit that will make them feel better.

I run into the same problem all the time (it's how I earned my "asshole" status), so I know where you're coming from.  :-[
ksharbaugh
6 years, 7 months ago
Bingo.  But it's not just BS that makes them feel good, it's BS that reinforces what they already believe... even if it pisses them off.
fluffdance
6 years, 7 months ago
Exactly.  It's a self-fulfilling, self-defeating cycle.  I have no time to placate people anymore.
KageRyuuUji
6 years, 7 months ago
" fluffdance wrote:
Simple:  People don't want to hear the truth.  They want to hear some random bullshit that will make them feel better.

I run into the same problem all the time (it's how I earned my "asshole" status), so I know where you're coming from.  :-[


And this is the truest of truths.
GrimReaver
6 years, 7 months ago
It really makes you wonder what's in teh other person's mind. the more I think about it, the less i understand it XP! oh well, i think you're ok my friend ^^!
zeroSilver
6 years, 7 months ago
its easy most people not all are distrusting by nature you know what your saying is true the people who trust you know what u say is true i trust you and believe u so as long as those who you hold dear to you know the truth what does it matter what those other idiots think or say  
RedReynart
6 years, 7 months ago
Ever know the phrase, "You are damned if you do and you are Damned if you don't" ? Now you know.
KeeperSeen
6 years, 7 months ago
Some people just need to fuck off. I'm with you on this man and I follow the same things as you, Man up to your mistakes, don't lie and make them fester.
NallaNyu
6 years, 7 months ago
Sounds like I've got more dipshits to add to my 'kill list'.
Just cross yer fingers and hope when the end of the world DOES come, whenever that may be, that it is something we can survive. (preferably zombies over nukes) Then, when all these dumb ass, bigoted, un-trusting fucks start some stupid shit, we could just turn our backs on them and let the die without an ounce of remorse. That's my idea of paradise.
Nesetalis
6 years, 7 months ago
what-a-dick :|
IGAKattack
6 years, 7 months ago
Human interaction is like a multiple choice question on an exam.
But there is no right answer, because people aren't asking you for the correct answer. They already gave the answer they thought was correct, and only check with you after their exam to hear the magic words to the affect of "Yeah, that's what I got too!"
Lies help them feel better, whereas the Truth makes them feel foolish, either straight away or later on when they cool down after a heated argument.

Hopefully that thing I just made up made some kind of sense. =3
soggymaster
6 years, 7 months ago
The truth is stranger than fiction.  

If someone can't handle the truth, they don't deserve your time.
Vinylshadow
6 years, 7 months ago
I feel the same way
I just don't even try, I just report them and let the idiot mods take care of it

*coughfacough*
Saglinger
6 years, 7 months ago
I'm sure this isn't the case every time, but sometimes it has to do with people believing what they want to believe rather than the truth.

I have noticed this happens especially often in politics and religion.  If you offer clear evidence against someone's religious or political views, they will often ignore it in favor of maintaining their views.  No one is immune to this either.  Even I'm not, though I might wish otherwise.
Kolo
6 years, 7 months ago
Real life sucks. The boy that cried wolf gets believed. The boy that never lied gets accused.
SamanthaSkyena
6 years, 7 months ago
I know where you're coming from, in a way. I always dimmed the truth, never really outright lied, except to keep people from worrying, or stop arguments. I've started being completely honest and suddenly I'm a massive bitch. People.
liontaro
6 years, 7 months ago
i trust you.
if that guy can't believe how nice you are then he should fuck off >:C
whitepawrolls
6 years, 7 months ago
Plain and simple fact. If someone is dead set on believing only what they want to then they will never believe you.
Jajerjack
6 years, 7 months ago
I can kinda see where you're coming from, since people get mad at me for being honest.  Lying AND jealousy have cost me WAY more than I ever want to pay again, so I just don't do them anymore.
Nopast
6 years, 7 months ago
As it's been said before, people mostly want to hear them being right, not the truth.

Oddly enough, i know a lot of people that like that i say my honest opinion, and i find it odd that there's people who hate you for doing it
FelouseFarnayne
6 years, 7 months ago
sadly to most people, your truth can be seen as a lie in their eyes, some people can be just stubborn and stupid or would rather claim your lying just because it doesn't suit what "they want to hear". I am sorry to hear about the grief your going through and hope you will be ok *comforting huggles* if you ever need to talk then you can always come and talk to me, but if your not comfy with that then there are your other friends to count on too n_n
Darkdeathgoddes
6 years, 7 months ago
So many comments. It appears to me you've got lots of good people around you too. So, ignore those people that are too dense to see you for who you are. If they think you're lying, so be it. If its someone close to you that should know better.. well, that was a one sided relationship anyway. No loss, no gain. I'll be your friend instead. :D
axlegear
6 years, 7 months ago
The average human is manipulative, deceiptful, narcissistic, and egotistical.  It is, thusly, quite typical to expect that of others and respond thusly, as it is the most typical situation.  This is why people typically do not trust each other, especially strangers, because we live in a world where the almighty dollar, personal gain, and the 'rat race' are the only motivators that provide tangible rewards.
lazarwolfe
6 years, 7 months ago
Also, the average human is swayed more by emotion than fact.
SomberScreams
6 years, 7 months ago
I'd post something deep, profound, and sympathetic. . . but anything I'd want to say has already been said.
So, people are insecure dicks, no one likes the truth when it's not in their favor, don't read to much into their bullshit 'cause at the end of the day does it really matter all that much?
*Hugs*
fatman84
6 years, 7 months ago
There is an old mexican saying "Truth is no sin but is very uncomfortable"
Another saying goes "Truth is stranger than fiction"

The reality is that people want the hear the "pleasant" truth and get on with their lives without any worries or concerns, instead of really knowing the truth of the situation.

Besides, when you tell bad people the truth, it will most likely hurt them, because it stings where they hurt the most.
Mythterious
6 years, 7 months ago
Ether, don't take it to heart that people are idiots. No one wants to know the truth. Ever. That's why (and i am going to offend a lot of people with this comment) people turn to religion. They want to be comforted, to be lied to, to be told that they are right and everyone else is wrong. Religion is one of the biggest lies ever. But people still flock to it because it makes them feel good about their life.

If anyone bashes my view of things, your are only proving my point.

But anyway. The point I am trying to make is, people will believe what they want to believe, whether its right or wrong. Trying to get them to see what is true and right is like trying to stop a waterfall with a kitchen sponge, no point it trying because all its going to do is get you soaked and piss you off.

*offers Ether hugs*
ScottyKat
6 years, 7 months ago
I'd rather be told the truth. Even if its unpleasant.. with the truth. you can at least
find a way to deal with it. This love of the easy to listen to lie is making people
dumber and blind.
Shokuji
6 years, 7 months ago
^ This.

Well said, Scotty. =3
Lathander
6 years, 7 months ago
The truth is like a sign; you can present it to a person, you can wave it in their face, or you can beat seven shades of shit out of them with it, but at the end of the day, if they ain't readin', the message isn't gonna get across. Some people are just determined to be asshats at the expense of others.
SquikBat
6 years, 7 months ago
Was it a truth that hurt someone? Sometimes, it's a hard thing to swallow and trust is sometimes hard to have. I've known you to be an absolute sweetheart, so don't let this get you down.
LilLoki
6 years, 7 months ago
Many times I have said this, and many times I will.

People. Are. Assholes.
Raukue
6 years, 7 months ago
I feel you. I am so super honest and truthful, like you have no idea. It is mind blowing at how many people lie, it's probably why that person got like that with you. Just good lord do people lie about most near everything, I dunno how people can lie so much so easily. I guess when I see a show like Maury and Steve Wilkos it just makes me feel mind blown at how much people can lie even after being caught with the lie.

But I see all this lying go on everywhere, not just those shows. Sigh I mean really... why do people find it so easy to lie? You have those who say they are open and honest but really aren't and just give those of us who really are a bad name, to not be believed.

I swear people have to learn to tell the truth. It is better to say the truth right away than hide at it or lie because it will hurt all the more the longer it drags out. If only people were honest from the start things could be easier. Then again to some of my experience it feels like people want liars. They like lies. I try to meet someone new, I am very honest and open, probably too much so, and they end up not wanting to bother with me anymore. I have had a fur lie to others about me for I have no idea why. I probably chatted with him too much, I told him I worried if I am saying too much or if I did this or that badly, I wasn't getting much feedback so it only made me all the more worried and paranoid. I had found out several months later he told such a lie about me that I was like... wtf? There was no call for that. I was nice to him, greeted him, saw him out and yet he had the nerve to lie and say I yelled and slammed the door on his face. Ugh my god... sad thing is that someone I had known, who he got to talk to, believe him over me. Why? She thinks I called her a bitch because he said so to her. Good lord. I hate that. And how someone I had talked to who got to meet him, he didn't believe me either, it's how I found out about the lie. It's sad that no matter how open and honest I am, there are still people who don't wanna believe me and I guess rather believe someone they met in person over me or something... UGH!!

Sigh anyway yeah... people are freakin stupid. I swear to you there should be half the amount of people there are in the world right now. I swear just too many stupid people, argue over the dumbest things, to where if you are not a fan of something they rage at you and force it down your throats and end a friendship over not being a fan of a show or whatever else. How people complain and rage over anything, even if not serious, against something they are a fan of. People bitch about games that are not out yet, bitch about pictures and just anything ugh. If only people would learn to just not comment on it and leave it be, someone is not a fan of it, oh well, how does that harm you? How I feel when someone does not know how to cope with a feeling, like it feels tramatizing to them and they try to cope with it by complaining or fighting something so stupid. Like they see someone too weird on TV like a gay couple or something not that offensive and they just can't help but complain. I admit I have seen some things on TV that just feel off to me and just too strange but hey, it's no harm, I just deal with it.

So many people lack common sense. So many people are inconsiderate. So many people are lazy. Sigh... well sorry I am ranting here. I just wish more people were honest and all. But it feels like 90% of the world lies or something and can't help but keep on lying. I am so honest to where I say things that risk that person not wanting to talk to me anymore or is embarrassing to talk about. It's just how I am. I am not gonna lie and pretend I am ok with something when I am not, like so many seem to do. If something bothers me I say so, as nice as possible, so that person doesn't continue to do that bothering thing around me. That sort of thing just builds up until they just explode in anger one day and bring it up as ammo. Full cmnt.
EtherSaga
6 years, 7 months ago
Heh, sounds like you had that pent up for awhile.
Raukue
6 years, 7 months ago
It's just upsetting and I don't go around saying that everywhere I go. But just thought I'd bring it up. It is mind blowing at how much people lie. Because of that I guess there are those who don't believe others that easily. Either because they lie all the time themselves or been lied to too much. So eh yeah... sad world. Such utter lack of trust.
RMoD
6 years, 7 months ago
Raukue
6 years, 7 months ago
Dunno how to respond to that. But anyway just caught another episode of Maury and wow it just seems lying is habit with people. How the girl told the guy for him to just admit it and tell the truth and maybe she will see about working things out. Otherwise it was over. The results already said he was lying, everyone knew he was lying, he knew everyone knew and yet he still couldn't bring himself to speak and when he did he still stuck with his lie just... wow.
RMoD
6 years, 7 months ago
What I meant is that I pretty much agree with that entire comment.

I know I can't fucking stand it when someone lies to me, especially in that "it's so obvious I'm lying but I'll never admit it" attitude.

While we're on the topic of Maury, I saw this one episode where the girl had (in order) an ex-girlfriend, this ex-boyfriend, and a current girlfriend.  She got pregnant, and I'll give you three guesses as to who the father was.  The best part was that he just wouldn't stop lying even after the results and all that.

Just fucking disgusting x.x
Raukue
6 years, 7 months ago
Ah I see. Yeah, some people just can't stop themselves it is just such habit and I feel many people are this way, or maybe it is just a show like Maury that just makes it seem that way. Certainly seems common though. I wanna hit so many of the people on that show with a bat or something, such scum.

Also what I don't like about that show is they spoil the results constantly in the previews. Do they not realize showing the reactions ruins the results actually spoils it? Or do they not care? They try to make it all suspenseful but they fail in doing that giving the result right after trying to make it all tense.

Anyway I guess getting a bit off hand in our own thing here and probably should note or something if we keep going back and forth on this. But yeah, liars just keep lying. Hope you aren't one of those who can't stand liars yet lies all the time yourself. Because that is not fair and being a hypocrite. As they say, treat others as you want to be treated and I think I follow that. I am open and honest and want the same back, but don't seem to get it back usually.
ElfenSciuridae
6 years, 7 months ago
Its been a long time since the Truth in Anything counted anymore. This is the age of vilifying people to makes themselves look better and reap what rewards maybe there. The Internet has a lot to do with this as early signs of it started about in BBSes and chatrooms of the mid 1990s. People thinks that it is better to destroy an innocent man than it is own up to the truth and take punishment themselves. Its all about self promotion, and unfortunately, as more people are born to this earth, the more of it is going to happen.

But stand by your guns, EtherSaga. One day all this will turn around and those who stand by the truth will be vindicated.
cerhit
6 years, 7 months ago
my mother still thinks everyone lies to her. i could tell her thwe sky is blue and she would still call me a liar.
Ketsa
6 years, 7 months ago
Pfft.... people that talk smack about you must not know you very well.

I used to get really bent out of shape if people held the wrong impression of me, but I've started to learn to only pay attention to the opinions of people that really matter to me. It's hard to, but makes like all the easier. Your heart's in the right place, and that's what counts.
InannaWDraco
6 years, 7 months ago
I get that all the time.  I'm honest with people, often to the point that it comes back to bite me in the ass later on.  The worst of this has always centered around spirituality-related stuff.  I've been yelled at, threatened, villified, accused of fluff (in some spirituality-related sites 'fluffy' is an insult very much akin to 'heretical') banned from several sites either for bogus reasons or without any reason or warning given at all... all sorts of things like that tend to befall honest people.  And it always seems to follow the same basic pattern: they want to be more important than you so they start making your life miserable... you don't even have to see yourself as important in the first place, all you have to do is seem important to someone else.  
AlexanderValentine
6 years, 7 months ago
everyone thinks that everyone else is lying or cheating.

Pretty much, this only proves how shallow people really are.
ocarinaman7
6 years, 7 months ago
I'm completely with you dude, not even my mother believes a word I say!
Nemmy
6 years, 7 months ago
People on here have probably already said what I'm about to say. However, I may end up saying something not otherwise covered.

The majority of people don't want the truth. Their version of "the truth" (the truth they want to hear) is nothing more than a pat on the back, a confirmation that they're perfect and nothing is wrong with them, a reaffirming that their world, their bubble is the one that matters and that's "true", so to speak.

In reality, the truth is an ugly thing much of the time. Realizing the truth provokes change, something many people generally are afraid of. Many people are afraid of what they don't understand, don't comprehend, can't solve. Oftentimes, the truth falls under what people are afraid of.

It's kind of sad when we've reached a point as people where the truth and change is synonymous with fear. I believe a lot of this has to do with the fact that, with learning the truth comes taking responsibility. Most people don't want to take responsibility for anything. They'd rather skate on by with their life assuming that what's wrong with the world is everyone else when 1) their attitude really could use a change, and 2) the only person any individual has any power over to change is themselves.

I know I've butted heads several times with folks when it came to honesty/being honest (part of that is due to having Asperger's Syndrome and the lack of an internal filter, something I've had to learn to develop). While there was some tension and some pain involved, at the end of it all it made me and the other person grow in terms of self.

That's something else: when the truth is involved, and thus change, there's usually pain involved. Many, if not all people would rather avoid pain if at all possible. However, sometimes it's necessary to experience pain in order to move forward and make changes.

I'm not sure if what I said made any lick of sense. It makes sense in my head (but I'm also majoring in Sociology, so mileage may vary) so if there's anything I said that's confusing, let me know and I'll try to clarify as best as I can.

Otherwise, yeah. I know that feel. :(
EtherSaga
6 years, 7 months ago
No, I understood everything clearly.

Obsession with their (per)version of the truth to sate mentality and selfish wants. This much I know. And I know this much as well, no matter how much I try, I will not be able to understand a strong willed opposing side, as my side is just as fortified. But I reason, which is important to being human. There are always two sides to every story, and I try to reason on both.

It's those who fight with straw-man arguments and flailing arms are the ones that frustrate me. Little to no rhyme nor reason.
Ponyseph
6 years, 7 months ago
Some people.
Rabbot
6 years, 7 months ago
man, if somebody ever spat in my face, id end up in prison. some people cant handle the truth, so its best to not say anything at all to these people :p
Kickinthehead
6 years, 7 months ago
People only like the truth as long as its their own version of it. Thats y people dont like me. I will not back down for something i believe in or know to b true no matter how offensive.
FritzRand
6 years, 7 months ago
Huh, we have some similarities indeed.
kingboomy
6 years, 7 months ago
This happens alot actually. I tell people all the time that I'm an asshole but i wouldn't go out of my way to be one.  That said, There are alot of people who wander around with a ragegasm waiting for the first sign of anything not going precisely as they state it.
xxsilverwolfxx9357
6 years, 7 months ago
Simple answer would be is the truth hurts and some ppl cant handle the truth but the thing about the truth is if you except it it will set you free
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