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MystBunny

Unblocking day on Inkbunny?

So I just had a thought that might make Inkbunny an even friendlier place than it already is. I'm not sure how I would go about trying to make this a real thing, but I do hope this spreads.

What I'm proposing is that one day every year, or ideally more often than that, every few months maybe, where those who have people on their block list go through that list. Look at each name on that list, perhaps visit their pages, and if you just can't remember why you blocked that person, lift the block.

Either that or perhaps an option on IB for temporary blocks that automatically lift after a certain period of time.

Though if you'll allow me a small bit of bragging, I wouldn't be able to adopt this myself, since in the years I've been a part of IB, there are currently only two people on my block list, and I remember exactly why I blocked them since I only ever use it when absolutely necessary. If I had a longer block list, I would absolutely adopt this, though.

Hmm, actually, I WILL unblock one of them now. My block list is now down to 1.

Update on that: It seems that one of the users I blocked had his account deleted, so that now brings my block list down to 0. yay! um... except that since the account is no longer there, there doesn't seem to be a way to remove it from my list O.o If the other previously blocked user happens to still be watching me, the unban has been scheduled, but will take some time to actually be lifted.
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Added: 7 years, 1 month ago
 
HeavyHeart
7 years, 1 month ago
Nah. I'm tired of trying to be friendly just to get shit on for it. Anyone on my block list stays blocked.
MystBunny
7 years, 1 month ago
If they were angry with you for the same reasons I was, it might be worth taking that into consideration. Just saying.
HeavyHeart
7 years, 1 month ago
And why WERE you angry with me? I'm not saying I didn't give any reason, as I gave up 2 decades of heavy drinking... but maybe I could have made use of some answers, or even just a "friend".

Something that you could consider.
MystBunny
7 years, 1 month ago
First, are you sure this isn't a conversation you'd rather have through PMs?
HeavyHeart
7 years, 1 month ago
I'm satisfied to take it to PM. Still feel no shame in admitting my former problem, publicly, as I no longer have that problem.
HeavyHeart
7 years, 1 month ago
Cold turkey, btw. Sober since 2016. Only recently had a few beers (6 pack spread out over 3 days, not NEARLY enough to get drunk, just enough to dull the pain of singlehanded, by and large, moving my life in an unrealistic amount of time).
MystBunny
7 years, 1 month ago
Congrats on that, by the way. I've seen what alcohol does to people, and what quitting alcohol does to people. Quitting alcohol cold turkey is actually dangerous though. It could have killed you or caused permanent damage.
HeavyHeart
7 years, 1 month ago
At that point in time, drinking, itself, was doing far more damage, and I really didn't give a damn about myself.

Thanks.
eeveefan
7 years, 1 month ago
grats on giving up drinking!!
i love seeing these kinds of turn arounds ^^
i bet you feel alot better and have alot more energy to.
<3
HeavyHeart
7 years, 1 month ago
Thanks. Yeah, booze can put you in a completely different world.
BunnyArtist47
7 years, 1 month ago
I have something similar to this but more in terms of who I watch.
In my early days of IB I watched everyone. Anyone who commented had decent art or amused me.

But more in more my inboxes became flooded with messages, random art I had no interest in, or just overall spam.
So about every 4 months in the past 2 years I've slowly dwindled my watch list.

I remember at one point I was watching over 200 people.
Down to 100
Then I dropped to a minimum of 50.
Then slowly I picked away people who were stale or of little interest to where I am now at 28.

MystBunny
7 years, 1 month ago
I hate unwatching people. Though it does mean there are some who have completely stopped doing what got me interested in the first place, but I hold onto hope they'll start again some day. heh.
eeveefan
7 years, 1 month ago
wow i dont watch alot of people either. i only watch people whos art style i like or find very cute.
so yeah my list is small compared to others. what keeps you interested in who you watch?
my gallery is full of cute art.
BunnyArtist47
7 years, 1 month ago
For me, it's one of 3 things

1. Amazing talent as an artist/author.
- If they make damn good art or stories then yeah I will stay watching.

2. Up and coming artist
- Someone breaking out of their shell. Continuing to improve their art. I've seen the art of many people evolve over the years in terms of their style and finished products.

3. Journals/comments
- Few but some I follow just for their journals or interaction with.


Coming down from 200+ watching to only less than -30, I have a few things that drove me away.

- Inactivity
- Politics
- Ego
- Paywalls
- Unwillingness to improve or take helpful criticism
- Toxic fanbase
- Stuck to one niche genre or sexual display
eeveefan
7 years, 1 month ago
ahh I see. yeah politics and whatnot is stuff I stay away from, if an artist wrongs me I just block em and stay away. paywalls to I stay away from. I dunno if I have a fanbase lol.
not sure what you mean by sticking to one niche, genre or sexual display.... I think the sexual display is one pose but idk lol.
BunnyArtist47
7 years, 1 month ago
With the sexual niche is say.

Hey, I like scat. But all I will draw is scat. Though I have talents and fans that want me to expand upon other themes. This is what I will always fll back onto or include in my art/story/comics.

Not bashing people who enjoy scat. But using it as an example
eeveefan
7 years, 1 month ago
ahh I see. I try to branch out usually. im trying to make a story for my chars currently, just need to get my girl made for the story to get going.
hbu? you got any plans?
BunnyArtist47
7 years, 1 month ago
College
Work

Write and storyboard in my free time. I have stories I would like to write for characters I have planned out. But need refs made for.
kiamoonfang
7 years, 1 month ago
Nice in theory but some blocks are of trolls heh it's something I hate having to do but I hate trolls even more... OMG And selfish people too UGH not going to get started heh but yeah I can see this on some :)
MystBunny
7 years, 1 month ago
Of course there will be some people that you feel shouldn't be unblocked, that's understandable. Still though, I went into this journal with absolutely no plans to unblock the person that I just did. If he does the same thing again, lesson learned, I'll just block him again and he'll stay blocked this time.
Lapsa
7 years, 1 month ago
I used to have an unblocking day, but it became kind of...bad when I unblocked people, since after a point I only blocked people that either blocked me or gave me death threats.
MystBunny
7 years, 1 month ago
Well yeah, death threats are something I'd definitely keep as a permanent ban. Of course if you forget who's done that to you, unblocking them and getting more death threats is a real possibility. I think it would be worth it though, but then, I haven't received any death threats either, so can't say it wouldn't change my  mind if it happened.
Khzhak
7 years, 1 month ago
No blocked users, or artists, or keywords. Go me *yay*
MystBunny
7 years, 1 month ago
yay ^_^ same. No blocked submissions, all keywords open and no bitching about things I don't like. Except maybe some of the things I don't like that aren't kinks >.>
GreenReaper
7 years, 1 month ago
While I appreciate the sentiment, blocking helps both parties move on, so I'm generally a fan of keeping them around!

I don't have any myself, but to be honest I have to deal with enough people via tickets that people I interact with generally barely register on the radar. Besides, they can't ban me (or rather, they can, but it just kills notifications of me replying to them without even noticing I'd been banned), so it'd be a bit unfair!
MystBunny
7 years, 1 month ago
I disagree completely. Blocking may help people move on, but what happens after that? They're still blocked. It's also difficult for the blocked person not to hold onto bitter feelings about those who have blocked them. More so than before the block, in fact. I'm not saying remove permanent blocking, just to make temporary ones an option. In my case, I think a temporary block on the person I just lifted would have been the option I would have gone for if it was there. I think just having that layer of "do I really want to make this block permanent" will go a long way to smoothing ruffled feathers. That's not to mention that from the other side of that, the person who was blocked gets a chance to calm down and later, might not make the same mistake again.

The biggest issue with having only permanent blocks, is that people change. Some don't, but when I first started getting involved in the furry fandom, I was a homophobe. I said some things to people that I regret. However, some of them I reconnected with later. I don't like the idea of acting on one thing without keeping in mind the possibility of change.
GreenReaper
7 years, 1 month ago
Here's the thing about change: yes, it can happen. But there's a huge chance that a) it doesn't, b) it isn't for the better, or c) it reverses and issues repeat after a while. In any case, you probably weren't the best match to begin with - heck, how many have you never thought of banning?

If the choice is "interact with new person who may or may not be someone I would ban" vs. "interact with someone I did ban", I suspect the former would be a better bet almost every time.

That's one of the bonuses of being in a large online fandom - in most cases, you don't have to put up with the hard work of reconciling and the risk of disappointment from those you've quarrelled with in the past; you just dump them from your life and move on. That's why the site software is named Harmony, not Harmony and Reconciliation. It's not designed to forgive, just to forget.

If there are bitter feelings, they either get screwed up inside or blurted out to friends; and either way, from a site perspective, the problem - drama associated with the direct interaction between two disputing parties - is typically solved.
MystBunny
7 years, 1 month ago
Why not have both though?

I'm not saying giving people the option to ban other users from their pages, even permanently, wasn't a great idea, and doesn't solve a ton of problems and prevent future drama. Even if you're right that the chance of someone not changing for the better over time is huge, what we already have and what I'm proposing aren't mutually exclusive. You're wanting to solve the majority of issues with one move, and I get that. I'm saying it should be decided case by case, person by person. You want to give users the option to moderate their own pages, and this only extends that moderation. We don't have to remove one to have another. We can have our cake and eat it too. Hell, the option to permanently ban can be the one ticked by default, and I think it would still work well.
GreenReaper
7 years, 1 month ago
Because it's more work, and can already be achieved by manually unblocking people after a particular period. Permanent blocking is only as permanent as your decision not to unblock someone.
MystBunny
7 years, 1 month ago
Unblocking someone after a certain period relies heavily on memory. Even if you write it down somewhere, you would have to remember where you wrote it, where to check it, any information you forgot to write down, and so forth. For someone as unorganized as I am, I'd say that's not achieving the same thing.

That's not really my point though. My point is, blocking someone is often done on an emotional response. Your emotional state changes all the time. That won't always stop someone from putting in a permanent ban anyway, but for some people, just the act of consciously deciding to make the ban permanent might just stop them to think a little more clearly.

On the flip side, someone who's reluctant to ban might allow drama to continue even when they should obviously block someone. Having the option of a temporary ban will give that person a reason to put an immediate halt to the drama, knowing it'll automatically be lifted when they might be ready to deal with it in a more productive way.

I really do think that can only make IB a more friendly place than it already is.
Stumpycoon
7 years, 1 month ago
I think that that is a good idea.  
MystBunny
7 years, 1 month ago
Thanks ^_^ No better place for it to start than IB
Timer
7 years ago
I've never blocked anyone, cuz I love everyone unconditionally.

Heh, no, that's not true.  Someone would just have to be insanely annoying for me to take the effort.  

Seems like a fine idea to spread around.
MystBunny
7 years ago
Thanks ^_^ Yeah one person I blocked was legitimately harassing me, and I don't mean just one offensive message, I mean persisting when I asked him to stop more than once, I started by deleting his comments, which he'd put right back up, and the other was spreading hatred of one of my friends through keyword suggestions. (Pretty soon after, IB staff put a stop to that one for good.) So those were necessary and if not for that I wouldn't have blocked anyone either.
inkbunnyisbroken
3 years, 10 months ago
Everyone on Inkbunny is an asshole, absolutely not.
MystBunny
3 years, 10 months ago
You are incredibly wrong on that. It sounds like you've had some terrible luck here, but overall the community has been good to me on a level I just can't find anywhere else. I've cleared my block list (there was only one person on it) at the beginning of this year, and it sits at 0 as it did the year before.
inkbunnyisbroken
3 years, 10 months ago
That's great that you've found maybe one or two people that aren't assholes on this site.
After being here since the beginning, everyone has been a rude, blockhappy little bitch that starts fighting for no reason and ends it with a "zinger" before blocking you and not allowing you to talk back. This is on TOP of the natural furry autism where they don't know how to talk to anyone without yiffing them.
MystBunny
3 years, 10 months ago
Using autism as an insult, speaking as someone who's been dealing with autism myself, is starting to give me a little more insight into the root of the problem here... but that aside:

One or two? Dude, just check out my watch list. Yeah I've encountered those zinger-blocks, and yeah. Fuck those people, and fuck the paywallers who block you if you ask about delayed releases. Fuck the hypocrites who talk about the principle of free speech, then block you if your views don't align with theirs exactly. The mods advocating for blocking over reserving judgement on people makes me sad, too.

Yeah, I get it. Those are problems that are really hard to overlook, and it depresses the fuck out of me when it happens. However, there's no way I can simply dismiss the friendships I've made here, the support, finding mutual interests, it's been overall a positive impact on my life. I wouldn't bother writing and posting stories here if it were as toxic as FA, where I no longer post my work. Yeah, I want Inkbunny to be better. But I love these people.
inkbunnyisbroken
3 years, 10 months ago
I'm not using autism as an insult. That's how a majority of furries act.
MystBunny
3 years, 10 months ago
" This is on TOP of the natural furry autism

While I don't intend to get hung up on that, yeah that's exactly what you did. As for your point, I don't see anything wrong with open sexuality on a porn site.
inkbunnyisbroken
3 years, 10 months ago
That wasn't my point :| The fuck you going on about?
You're just proving my actual point.
MystBunny
3 years, 10 months ago
So if I missed your actual point, maybe stop being an asshole and clarify your actual point? If this is how you treat everyone else here, then this "everyone is an asshole" thing may be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
AlyssaKamber
2 years, 3 months ago
Fair idea. In my case, there are only two types of people on my block list. First are ones who focus on kinks, seeing art of which makes me feel terrible: brutal rape, scat, gore, torture, snuff, female circumcision (there are a few artists, and commissioners, who seem to have one and only one kink-- and it's one of those). The other are ones who occasionally draw such things and forget or neglect to add those tags, meaning I run into them accidentally. None of those people are getting unblocked at any time.

I have no problems with people drawing, commissioning, etc. any of those. I just DO NOT want to see them.
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