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How to Get Me to Ignore & Unfollow You:

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Post EVERYTHING under "Patreon Preview" & paywall. If I thought your art was good enough to pay for, I'd be paying you. I pay 21 Patreon supports. If you're not on it your art isn't what I consider good enough to pay for. Get better before trying the "Click here & become a Patreon to see the full pic!" route.

The way to gain Patreons is to post full pics worth paying for a couple weeks sooner. When you hide your ENTIRE account behind a paywall with nothing but censored pics, say goodbye to about 75% of your fans. We'll just find your stuff on e621 & resent you for making it one more step to obtain.

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Added:	7 years, 3 months ago 14 Jun 2017 19:43 CEST

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ArcTaryx

7 years, 3 months ago

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Edited 7 years, 3 months ago by Owner

I second this. I support a bunch of creators on Patreon, but not a one of them is 100% behind a paywall. I make it a point to avoid supporting any creators that take that approach, because it says to me, as a longtime fan of some of them, that they only care about using their art as a money maker, and fuck the people who supported them before then.
Edit because I jumped the gun on posting: It isn't even about being good enough to support - there are plenty of creators out there I'd gladly throw money at. Rather, it's more about the message they send to their fans by locking any new content behind a paywall, and throwing a fit when someone leaks it.

Feryl

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ ArcTaryx

This is my feeling. There's a few who, since they created their Patreon, ALL of their work is now Patreon only. When they do this I - and apparently a LOT of past fans - unfollow them because we get tired of looking at "teaser" thumbnails. I'll wait a couple days & find their work on one of the furry dump sites for free & they'll not even get the appreciation of a +Fav for it in the end.

ArcTaryx

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Feryl

Right there with you an all of those points. I can think of at least a half dozen just off the top of my head that I can think of that I've unfollowed for those exact reasons, though in the interest of not starting shit (however slim the chance may be) I won't say here.

Feryl

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ ArcTaryx

I respect that. I had stated the offender's name (well, for at least this rant) in my original post but in the interest of not starting TOO much drama I removed it.

moyomongoose

7 years, 3 months ago

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I've never had put any of my art behind a paywall...The way I see it, that only reduces the amount of viewers who see your work.

Feryl

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ moyomongoose

You'll actually get more Patreons by publicly offering all works. The advantage of Patreon could be they get to see the work a couple weeks before it's public. Or maybe a higher-res version. By making it all available only to Patreons you ostracize your own fan base & limit your viewers severely. Not a wise plan to succeed.

unsent

7 years, 3 months ago

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Agreed.

Meowz

7 years, 3 months ago

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Can I just openly admit that I hate Patreon? I am glad it exists and people can use it, and artists can get a number of supporters.

What I am starting to hate about it is, how it's literally everywhere now. Every podcast I hear, every other artist I watch, they all started advertising it, and it's just getting on my nerves. Rant over.

Feryl

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Meowz

I don't mind it for preview rights or larger file privileges. What I despise is when an artist puts ALL of their art behind the wall & thinks we'll all jump up to pay to see. Why would I when I can find those "private" pics on e621 in a couple days? Now if you want to create a Patreon & give subscribers a 2-week preview or a bigger file for their collection - I'm fine with that. Hell, I pay 6 Patreons that would release those same files for free in a month but to me it's worth it to see it NOW. But to paywall everything - fuck you, I'll steal your art.

yiharbin

7 years, 3 months ago

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200% agree!!!

ArionEquus

7 years, 3 months ago

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Pretty much... There's actually some people I'd kinda like to Patreon too, but the fact that they wall everything more or less puts a dirty taste in my mouth... So I don't give them any money, and I kinda begin to overlook their content. Because it's all teasers and nothing worth looking at.