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RuscoIstar

12 years, 6 months ago

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Art nudist?

Yeah, I think it almost encompasses the definition you want to convey.

Nishi

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ RuscoIstar

Good enough for me! 8D

NonnyFox

12 years, 6 months ago

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Mainstream society does have an unhealthy view towards nudity. In my opinion one proof of that is what a person is charged with when arrested naked in a non nudist zone......indecent exposure! They have the unwritten set of rules that if one isn't having sex, bathing or changing their clothes one shouldn't be naked. As some of us have learned and know it is possible to be naked for no sexual reason.

In Ygallery when an artist draws a character naked and nothing sexual is happening in the drawing they can tag it as tasteful nudity.

Artist can still be a good enough title, it's just your art can be in the category of tasteful nudity or sexual. If the prudes don't like it, well no one is forcing them to look at it, they can set their filters accordingly.

Nishi

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ NonnyFox

Haha yeah. X3 There's all sorts of weird things though. Like in Europe they have topless beaches, or some nudity is okay on TV - but then when you think about what nudity they censor it's kinda odd - like if a penis is flaccid it can be okay, if it's erect it should be censored. I just really don't get why it's so terrible - I think a lot of people just don't like naked stuff, or even sex, so all these rules come up. It requires a lot of energy, I'm glad I can at least draw naked things on my own - even though everyone'll be confused about why I draw everything naked so much. 8D

NonnyFox

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ Nishi

"	Nishi wrote:
	I just really don't get why it's so terrible - I think a lot of people just don't like naked stuff, or even sex, so all these rules come up. It requires a lot of energy, I'm glad I can at least draw naked things on my own - even though everyone'll be confused about why I draw everything naked so much. 8D

I own a couple of books on nudism. One of them is an out of print book that I was able to buy used on Amazon.com a couple of years ago titled Therapy, Nudity and Joy by Aileen Goodson Ph.D. I've read 2/3rds of it. I've read the sections on Therapy and Nudity but I haven't read the Joy section yet. The first two sections are interesting reads. Part of the reason why some people have bad views on nudity is due to their upbringing. The author has had a lot of married couples at her clinic that haven't seen each other naked. When they have sex it would be half naked with the lights turned off.
Some people have even been raised to have body shame, particularly right here in the US. If you're fat, hate your body even more. (been there, lost 152 pounds)

Some people even have genital phobia, which can be another reason why some dislike nudity.

For the most part those that'll be confused by why you draw everything naked so much are those that aren't like you, Bosky and me.

Nishi

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ NonnyFox

Haha oh wow, I bet that's an interesting read! (: Over the past few years, or maybe just the past few months, I've noticed people disliking nudity for weird, certain reasons. Maybe they think genitalia is gross. Maybe they only think it's gross if it's male or female. There are plenty of strange things. 8D And yeah! If someone's parents were cool with nudity it wouldn't be a big deal, if their parents were strict they'd probably have more issues with it. It's weird how people develop. And I think it's kind of irresponsible to become partners or parents while being so sexually reclusive. Thankfully there are lots of cool people who know that sort of stuff gets ridiculous. Glad we know better! 8D

TravisCoon

12 years, 6 months ago

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i draw nudes as its easier without the chothes in the way. Guess I 'm a pervert too.

Nishi

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ TravisCoon

Haha, I think it depends on the reason! I think it's easier to draw bodies too! Some people I guess have an easier time drawing clothes. They're just differences. (:

TaviMunk

12 years, 6 months ago

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nuuuuu I never noticed ^^ hehe

Nishi

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ TaviMunk

Do you need to get your eyes checked? :O

TaviMunk

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ Nishi

being silly ^^;

Nishi

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ TaviMunk

Haha, I thought so! ;P

SenGrisane

12 years, 6 months ago

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You be a Nudevert :D

Oh and by the way. Do you maybe OC with others?

Nishi

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ SenGrisane

Haha. 8D I am! But I ant a label for the not-perverted part'a it!

And I used to all the time. I have a Mac now. I have to download all this complicated Jazz to be able to OC again... it looks like a hassle so I haven't yet but I wanna eventually!

SenGrisane

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ Nishi

If you do ring me up. I'd sure love to slap some digital paint on the cavas with you ^^

Bledar

12 years, 6 months ago

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I think "art nudist" is a good one.
Nudity is realistic. I hate the way almost all cartoons show the bare crotch with nothing on it. Wakko Warner doesn't ware any pants but he doesn't have any privates either. It's pure corruption. And "pervert" is a word prudes use to demean people who they can't control. When in fact, "pervert" is a compliment. ^^

HattieTheHat

12 years, 6 months ago

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Edited 12 years, 6 months ago by Owner

You share the ideals of the ancient Greek sculptors and painters (I'm guessing). They sculpted/painted subjects nude because it was right, and the way it was supposed to be. They weren't perverts. Discus Thrower, The Thinker, and the Sistene Chapel ceiling aren't lewd. They're just natural.

Kupok

12 years, 6 months ago

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Once I walked out of the house naked and a pedestrian looked at me funny o_o

Nudism is just.. regular in this household sometimes it's hard to forget, especially after wakeing up ^^;

Nishi

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ Kupok

Haha, luckily they didn't flip out about being flashed. 8D Even stories about people being seen naked inside their homes from the outside is crazy. X3 people just can't handle our lovely bods. 8D

DJPoopypants

12 years, 6 months ago

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Ah yes certainly, I have similar feelings. I've been interested in Naturism for a long time and almost as soon as I found out such an attitude existed, I picked it right up. "cute, fun and real" are how I see it as well but saying that to others (especially when cartoon nudity is involved >.>) doesn't usually get great results. I do like pushing the "real" part of it though...Cause it is. I've always wanted to do a parallel sorta comic idea where some other body part is taboo and the world is afraid to show it; I've heard lips are a good comparison because we use that for more sexual purposes per day than we do genitals. Of course, you get the great big "you can't impregnate someone with lips" thing and then the prudes rally, blah blah, yeah probably no change will occur on this subject, baww, ect

I've been bothered by people thinking it's inherently wrong when it isn't, but I too have come to terms with that, but then yeah ESPECIALLY art people thinking it's wrong just makes me feel weird. Running into people saying "Yeeahh I don't draw that kind of stuff outside life drawings" but all the while riding really high off of bland sex and penis jokes. It's ok to mention, but not to see or show? Well...Alright then, I guess. :S

Nishi

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ DJPoopypants

Haha, it is very real, and it's weird of us to keep denying it exists and make up all these excuses and pretend things when really it's just something they don't want to draw or include. Even a friend of mine doesn't like balls, so she just doesn't draw them, even though she's okay with drawing weenies. I definitely prefer that kind of honesty if people are gonna do something weird.
I like the lips idea, that's really cool! :D In some cultures hips are a naughty thing - so similar situations exist in different places. Hips don't get people pregnant either. Mouth things are naughty and personal though - so are kisses! So I think that'd be a really cool thing if you did it./ (:

And I think it just shows how far ahead the art community thinks it is, while showing some very apparent and prude limitations. People are so weird being okay talking about it and joking about it, but drawing or showing it are way too far. 8D I think it's all just stuff I have to shrug off now.

Genthark

12 years, 6 months ago

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I also love this genre. I like the naughty cartoons and the nude scenes. But such cartoons interest me only, where furries visible.
E.g.: La alegría de la vida, Judas & Jesus, Shimajiro etc. I looking for "nude furry" cartoons many years ago. And nobody can't help me, because everybody takes me "sick fuck".

Nishi

12 years, 6 months ago

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@ Genthark

Haha, those are good ones! They're rare. D: But when I see them it's awesome. (:

theuncalledfor

12 years, 5 months ago

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Stupid terran civilizations, why are you so damn afraid of freaking genitalia?
Us Nidal Ith'Nyeargh have no such silly legislation or social stigma.

Nishi

12 years, 5 months ago

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@ theuncalledfor

Us who?
But yeah I know, seriously. X3 People have body parts and apparently that's too much for them to handle. 8D

theuncalledfor

12 years, 5 months ago

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@ Nishi

Nidal Ith'Nyeargh, basically servants/worshippers of the Ith'Nyeargh who are a civilization of gods.
We're pretty much IN UR AFTERLIFZ, SAVIN UR SOULZ.

Catwheezle

12 years, 4 months ago

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I'd pick "radical artist" :P

You're right that there are strange double standards, but I suspect that there always have been.

Take Greek/Roman statuary, pottery, and mosaics: penises tended to be smaller than normal (I reckon I'm small: those things make ME look big; therefore, they're small). Except in certain situations, they're drawn erect and often quite massive. I'm betting there's some double standard there that I don't understand, about when erect was OK.

In the UK, penises are OK on TV, newspapers, and magazines if "the angle of the dangle is greater than the Firth of Forth" - a rule of thumb a bit like "it's OK if it's floppier than Florida".

In some countries in Europe (and even some US states - CA I think?), it's legal to walk naked so long as nobody is offended and complains - which they generally don't. And the police aren't *allowed* to be offended: or rather, their offense can't be used as the basis for an arrest.

Un-aroused nudity in art is honestly passé and normal. I don't think anyone bats an eyelid at it. Except in one area...

Child nudity is currently the big moral minefield in art and photography. At the moment, this seems to be "okay" only if it's mixed with something dark. Then it becomes "cool and edgy" instead of "porn": see for example the art of Trevor Brown, Junko Mizuno, Mark Ryden, Dariusz Skitek, Dino Valls, Nicola Vinchi, Fred Einaudi, David Aronson, Virgil Finlay, James Jean, La Porte (DA's YummyKitty), Vladimir Clavijo-Telepnev, Andrew Polushkin, etc.

Nishi

12 years, 4 months ago

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@ Catwheezle

Haha, I like that better than extreme even if it's kinda the same. X3

And yeah, Greek statues were supposed to be modest - so they kept it all small and similar and tried not to bring focus to it. (I like small guys! :D So you're all good to me~!) If a character was supposed to be dumb or laughable, his was huge and floppy. But I've seen the erect ones too that look all macro-weenie. I don't see why they did that. X3 I guess for emphasis, or so that they could see it in detail in the aroused state with an erotic intent. Can't get too excited seeing it all far away.

And haha, I kinda heard the similar weirdness about TV nudity from a UK friend! It's definitely weird. I guess it's the same modest thing, maybe? It's okay if it's normal, but if it's erect or trying to be erotic, then it may be more sexually-charged. I'd love if that stuff was okay here. X3 But it rarely is.

I've heard of people being nude here, I'm in California (and in the same area as YummyKitty, I guess!) but I think anyone nude here would be arrested for indecent exposure, as they would anywhere in the states. Except for some things like gay pride parades, or nude beaches, etc. And even in the art world people here do sometimes mind nudity, or it isn't treated equally. It sucks even the community that shouldn't be prude about it is. 8D But they're not supposed to mind, and usually don't.

And haha, yeah, I can understand that being all full of confusion and politics. X3

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