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by Saucy
it works much better than fighting to fix it

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Published: 9 years, 6 months ago
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AmaraMcLeod
9 years, 6 months ago
stickfigure wisdom right there :)
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
They are the wisest
AmaraMcLeod
9 years, 6 months ago
yes they are :)
Balmung
9 years, 6 months ago
What is the problem you are having, if I may ask the question?
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
People telling me that fighting for a cause is useless and that calm and patience would be more effective :')
Stratus
9 years, 6 months ago
So idiots is your problem?
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
Not idiots per say, but bigoted people uncomfortable at the idea of something doing something they don't like, even if it's harmless.
Stratus
9 years, 6 months ago
Unfortunately that problem is about as hard to fix as is common
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
It sure is.  But I'm not giving up!
Balmung
9 years, 6 months ago
I think that depends on the cause. Some are worthy, some not so much, and some are lost.

I admire being able to stick to one's principles, but sometimes fighting only achieves getting you stressed. Then a change of approach could actually be a good thing.

What kind of cause are we talking about here?
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
I think any cause that has as a goal something that doesn't harm anyone can be a good cause!

And the cause in question is respect of identity of others; letting people express themselves the way they want without having their identity questioned.
Balmung
9 years, 6 months ago
I can agree with that :)

Fortunately things are slowly moving in that direction. Progress is slow but I think it will soon accelerate as old generations die out and the new ones are more accepting.
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
I think, if more people stop being quiet about it, it'll help!  A lot of people I know are worried about the backslash if they dare talking...

Hopefully, I won't be dead by the time the changes are really noticeable!
Balmung
9 years, 6 months ago
Depending on where you are, in some places people are quite accepting already.

I think currently we're going to see a bit more conflict than usual as people who are noticing society changing in a direction they don't understand begin freaking out about it. That has always happened and is in a way a good thing as it indicates a change in progress.
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
That's true!  And I'm grateful for that!  Though I guess I'm allowed to be a little selfish in wanting it to be the norm :P

That's also very true!  People complaining about it are often afraid of change, but with time and perseverance in the cause, it is possible to make them realize that it's only fair for people to be allowed things that won't actually impact on their own life.  I mean, we still have plenty of people complaining about "gay marriage", even though by now it should be fairly obvious that it hasn't changed a single thing to "traditional marriage".  But we're moving, as long as we keep pushing.
PrysmTKitsune
9 years, 6 months ago
you can be calm and patient and still be fighting for a cause, ghandi proved that long ago...one need not be aggresive, or even strong to win, sometimes all it takes is willpower and persistence
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
He had people following him.  A lot of people.  And his ideals weren't the best (i.e: suggesting that Jews just have accepted the holocaust, and even sacrificed themselves.)
He was also against self defense.

It might have worked for him, but it's not an effective way to do things.  In a war, you can't just take it and hope that the enemy will stop because you're not fighting back.  It'll just become an easy victory for the opponent.

Just like MOGAI people can't just hope for things to fix themselves, because they won't.  We're not just going to sit down and take it.  We're not going to get silenced because people fear a world in which they have to share a right instead of having it as a privilege.
PrysmTKitsune
9 years, 6 months ago
your understanding of gahndi is somewhat flawed i think, especialy the crack about the jews that certainly never comes up in any history books ive read, his stance was that the best way to gain rights for a group is to resist in a peacefull way, do not be the one to escilate let the world see that is is 'them' not you that is causing the violence, do not give the enemy the chance to blaim it all on you...and above all do not give up.
he was the source for the now butchered term 'passive agresive' it was his way of saying to resist aggresivly but in peacefull non violent ways, like his peoples march to the sea to gather salt, an act considered totaly against the law at the time, had to do with taxes or some such i think.
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
http://www.gandhism.net/hisownwords.php
See "on the holocaust"

Yes, defeated people can be the good ones, but someone's who's died in battle can only be remembered, and will never live to enjoy their success in not fighting.

This is not what we want.  We don't want to be the ones that are remembered. We want to be the ones who are here to stay, and we demand respect.
PrysmTKitsune
9 years, 6 months ago
eh i could rambel on at you but i wont
alow me to greatly summerize my thoughts
in history, those who have made war for there rights have either been eradicated, or spent generations picking up the peices
those who chose peacefull legal methods took longer to get what they wanted, but without all the fallout and risk
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
There is no "peaceful legal methods" for us.  There is either be vocal and visible, or doing nothing and never changing anything.

And honestly, people who get offended at being called out should take a look at themselves, and wonder why they're so against people living their life without hiding.
PrysmTKitsune
9 years, 6 months ago
there is 'always' a peacefull solution, you just have to find it, but eh in the end its not my place to judge or to decide...you do as you want or dont by your own will and history will be the judge of weather it was for good or for ill.
sedkitty
9 years, 6 months ago
Wait a little bit more, just in case.  What could possibly go wrong?
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
Yeah I mean, not like the problem persisting and nothing getting fixed could possibly happen... right?
sedkitty
9 years, 6 months ago
Pshaw.  That's for someone else to do.  Probably.  It's so very calming here with my head in the sand.
Saucy
9 years, 6 months ago
Oooh sand!  Maybe that'll fix the problem!
TheGreyWolverine
9 years, 6 months ago
My life in a series of images.


Maybe if I ignore that issue instead of dealing with it, it will go away.
thekitkatgamer
9 years, 6 months ago
it's like the babadook x3 don't ignore it saucy, don't ignore it
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