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by GrimArt
Addiction 98
Addiction 101-102
~10 high res pages early release on http://patreon.com/grimart

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male 844,905, human 70,399, comic 54,345, b/w 259
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Type: Picture/Pinup
Published: 4 weeks, 1 day ago
Rating: General

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PipTheOtter
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Yeah... this isn't going to end well.
Androo11
4 weeks, 1 day ago
This is just Leto torture porn at this point
Ralanr
4 weeks, 1 day ago
I disagree with the accusation that Howl cutting himself is Leto’s fault. I’m not even sure how she knows he asked for him. It is his fault for doing nothing when she asked for help while he was bleeding out.
djTMcR
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Because they live together and she found Leto was in the house when Howl called?
Ralanr
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Like I said, it’s his fault when she called for him to help with the bleeding and he didn’t respond cause he was jacking it. Not his fault that the cutting happened in the first place.
djTMcR
4 weeks, 1 day ago
You wanted to know how she knew.
Ralanr
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Misreading there. Sorry.
GrimArt
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Remember that Howl asked Sam to come over. He most likely told her that he asked for Leto first before he had to "bother" her.
Ralanr
4 weeks, 1 day ago
That would makes sense. Still doesn’t make Leto responsible for him cutting himself. It just makes him a shit friend.
Kellyn
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Howl probably told her. He probably told them both the events that led to him wanting to cut himself and how Leto was too busy with something and turned him away despite his bad day.
TBG
TBG
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Unless there was a suicide note saying that Howl asked for Leto, don't know how she would have known he came to Leto.
djTMcR
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Howl clearly called Sam to come over, specifically because she saw Leto was there when she came over.
TBG
TBG
4 weeks, 1 day ago
I was under the impression that Leto and Howl are flatmates, plus Leto was in his room. Howl called Sam to their place and unless he said in the call/text that he spoke to Leto, or left a note, I'm not sure how Sam would know that Howl ever asked for Leto.
djTMcR
4 weeks, 1 day ago
...Because they live together and she went to go check? Logical thought would assume that if she stumbled upon Howl, and there was someone else home, then that person was clearly there and did nothing prior to her getting there. Additionally, Howl outright said he didn't want to bother Sam because he feels like a burden, so in lieu of Leto not doing anything, he'd immediately make that clear when calling because of his self view.
Wolfskid
4 weeks, 1 day ago
I think Sam is definitly in the wrong in here, I can understand her disliking Leto for being indiscreet, accusing and unaware of other people, but that´s no reason to hate him, he´s not the one that made Howl cut himself, he also never directly hurt anyone, and yeah he drank and didn´t her Howl or Sam at the right moment, it´s still understandable, it´s still not his fault and what she´s doing is actually shittier then anything Leto did because she actually beats down a person who definitly feels responsible for a situations that is unfortunate, I think she´s realistic but also being unhelpfull and an ass, for bringing up his dead mother like this
Tartarus
4 weeks, 1 day ago
As harsh as she was, she made a good point about his mother. He saw what alcohol turned her into, and instead of learning something from it he decided to pick up booze himself, and quickly turned into an apathetic, uninterested mess. That kind of shit is dangerous and irresponsible of him and while Sam shouldn't have barred him from seeing Howl, Leto really needs a wake-up call.
Wolfskid
4 weeks, 1 day ago
so being once drunk and not hearing howl deserves a wake up call? Him talking on the phone is also something that could have made him not hear howl. Yes him drinking was not good but blaming him for the situation Howl is in is definitly wrong, would you blame him too if he had listened to music? or if he watched a video loudly? there is a time and place to say something about that but not in the moment where one person feels guilty for not responding. Nothing Leto did is even remotly at fault for Howl cutting himself, so yeah that wakeup call is not helping but only blaming someone for something he isn´t responsible for
Kellyn
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Go back and read page 93. Leto not only heard but told him to “go away”
Wolfskid
4 weeks, 1 day ago
and that means he´s at fault for Howl cutting himself? not being attentive and being apathetic?
Kellyn
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Not completely or even necessarily mostly. But you can’t say he doesn’t deserve any blame. This whole experience was a result of BOTH of their fuckups not just howl’s and not just Leto’s.
Wolfskid
4 weeks, 1 day ago
I can agree on that part, mostly saying that sam is going to far on him right now, still I can understand her perspective and why she does the things she´s doing right now. Mostly trying to show the saddening part that nobody is truly in the right or wrong in here but that this still can lead to further tragedy, especially for leto
Tartarus
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Only thing she's going too far with is forbidding Leto to see Howl, on that we agree. The rest however, Leto fully deserves. It should serve as wake-up call for him but given what we've seen so far... it's only ever gonna go further downhill I'm afraid. He's too broken to ever make a change for the better, and part of me fears he inherited his mental issues from his mother.
Wolfskid
4 weeks, 1 day ago
I he doesn´t deserve hate, dislike defintly, a stern talking definitly, but not hate, also I think the issues lie in the situation he´s been in. Hell I dunno if I could cope if I lived in such a shitty household being groomed by a pedophile and being mistreaten by my parents, he doesn´t need any biological inheritance to be fucked up at this point, and guess what he has nobody to talk about it howl pretty much said to his I think I have a problem with don´t we have all? I think honestly that he could have been a normal kid in the right situation biology didn´t have a play in it, simply the environment. It could be that he inherited something from her but even without he´s mentally unstable and needs help he never really got.
GrimArt
4 weeks ago
" I think honestly that he could have been a normal kid in the right situation biology didn´t have a play in it" This is correct. There are very few mental issues out there that force one to treat others poorly. Many awful people in life are that way because of the way they were raised and the views they were given. If Leto had been raised in a better environment with no grooming, he would have turned out better than we're seeing in this comic.
blaze53
4 weeks ago
You've clearly never been drunk.
Kelenius
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Guy with an ongoing problem with self-cutting (a harmful coping mechanism with danger to health) that doesn't seem to be doing anything to address it despite being surrounded by a friendly environment - a victim that needs compassion.

Guy who got drunk for the first time in his life (a harmful coping mechanism with danger to health) not so long after having both of his parents die - the bad guy who deserves hate and is to blame for what happens to the first guy.

OK.
Kellyn
4 weeks, 1 day ago
I don’t think Leto deserves all of the blame that’s for sure. But he told howl to go away in favor of masturbation knowing howl was having a bad day and knowing that he cuts himself. Being drunk isn’t a great excuse. Sam is right Leto should know how his mom turned out and shouldn’t have even tried getting drunk in the first place.
Kelenius
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Saying that he shouldn't be drinking here is like saying Howl shouldn't be cutting himself. They were both having bad days. Of course you shouldn't tell a maybe-suicidal friend to bugger off when he's asking for help, but they are both in a shitty spot and the amount of blame laid on him is disproportionate.
Kellyn
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Everyone is beating up on best girl Sam. Yeah she is probably going a little extreme in her pushing Leto away but given both that she KNOWS howl asked for Leto’s help and got rejected and that she saw exactly what was so god damn important he couldn’t help a friend in need her hatred is completely justified.

It’s not like Leto doesn’t know howl cuts himself. Leto has known for years. Yeah it was howl’s decision to cut himself but it was Leto’s decision to turn him away when he really needed to hang out with someone. Drunk or not Leto chose to tell howl to “go away”.
Wolfskid
4 weeks, 1 day ago
oh I´m definitly not beating on her, she´s realistic and endured some shit because of Leto (getting beat up by others because of Leto blurting out that she draws furry art for example), I´m just finding her actions right now to be definitly not good. Otherwise no, her motives are understandable, it´s just a bad move on everyone in here and it´s pretty depressing to see
whiteblur
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Honestly it seemed a hell of a lot more like Leto was in exactly the same kind of mental state as Howl, and like Howl, Leto sought out someone he felt he could reach out to for what his brain needed. I mean in a way remember Howl did have the option of reaching out to his mother too and he didn't. Honestly Leto is so broken at this point and just seems to be breaking worse by the moment and instead of being able to reach out for help from people he is afraid doing so will make everything worse creating a never ending cycle in his mind.
Etigien
4 weeks, 1 day ago
I follow this comic mostly to see how much life turns around and fucks that guy's life, he isn't meant to be happy nor die in peace. Just amusing how fucked he got, and will be. He will get sued by sexual assault if he helps an elderly cross the road,and he'll lose the trial.

He is not allowed even to get bad or sad, because his friend is fucked up, cut himself, as if it was his job or duty to save him, heh.
Tartarus
4 weeks, 1 day ago
He was aware of Howl's tendencies, and when Howl went to him for help he told him to go away so he can masturbate. So yes, Leto fucked up and is to be blamed for situation getting out of hand.
Etigien
4 weeks ago
Exactly. He lost both parents, saw pretty much his only two friends touching each other, which made him feel completely betrayed and alone, and when he was at his lowest, drunk, begging for attention and horniness, he also needs to take care of his friend.

Like I said, he isn't allowed to feel sad. He'll just go down to worse
Shierna
4 weeks ago
Keeping in mind that part of the reason that he's in such a bad place at the moment is that he witnessed his best friend getting a handy from his crush, I'd actually say he was kinda justified in telling Howl to go away right then.
GrimArt
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Stooop you're making me laugh at Leto. Now I can't stop thinking about him losing a sexual assault case for helping an old person cross the road.
Faren
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Wow, what a cunt. sure him getting drunk isn't good, but she is acting like howl's mother or something. She doesn't get to decide who visits him. Especially if she is keeping up the who 'im not into sexual relationships... now here let me molest you'.

She is acting like he is the reason Howl cut himself. Maybe if she knew Howl better she would know he was cutting himself long before meeting Leto.
kibasnowpaw
4 weeks ago
Are we playing the blame game? It's easy to point fingers, but instead of pointing fingers, we should try to understand. It's no one fault and if you want to blame anyone, then blame everyone. Blame Howl for not talking to leto right after leto felt betrayed and blem him to take the easy way out. Blem leto for being drunk and not caring at that point. Blem yourself for not been there for  Howl and been too late to stop him. There is more than enough blame to go around, and in the end, It's no one fault, and it's everyone's fault. I hate when people can't see past their own feeling and shame and blame it on others when in the end, it's really themself they hate. And don't tell me she doesn't hate herself because she does, and she will put all that hate on leto because it's easier. That's how human nature works.  
Shadowartist
3 weeks, 6 days ago
Sam is a bit out of line here trying to restrict Leto. I'm not saying she's wrong to be angry, but Letting him see Howl in his current state could make him even more remorseful and understand to avoid such a situation again. Sure he messed up and ignored his friend in a drunken stupor, but she does know everything that happened to him not that long ago, right? If Leto hasn't got any therapy in all this time it is understandable that he'd let his demons overtake him just like Howl's did. The man walked who knows how many miles just to see him. You can't just say "thou shall not pass". That should be up to Howl himself or his mother.
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