The group is getting a little heated, it seems they hit a little wrinkle: they don't have nearly enough money to bet on Chuck …In case you missed our announcement:
As of now, we will be increasing rates for new members of our Patreon - the increase reflects 5x the content we are making each month, but comes with a bonus too! Your earlier payments will actually get you MORE content for less! We'll be making sure new members receive at least 18 "panels"* of content every month, which effectively increases your rewards to double what we were offering before (at often less than double the price!) This amount means almost daily pages, the rate quickly jumps up to 25 panels a month! 2018's releases have been consistently 25 panels and rising! *We measure our work in “panels” (2 cha +BG) not pages, so larger cast pages take more “panel” funding.
Check out our Patreon for more details, and please note that the "Early Bird" payment options are only for older members! https://www.patreon.com/catastrophe
We are also offering $20+ VIP access to bonus pin-ups, sketches and private streams for new members! VIP support is reached after the second year “catch-up” content, allowing two exclusive pin-up pages a month, with votes on characters and poses determined by the VIP voting!
THIS IS A PREVIEW! TO SEE THE FULL COMIC, PLEASE CONSIDER SUBSCRIBING TO OUR PATREON, you'll see 105 pages your first month for just $6! and can pay to catch up to August 2017's releases at a new lower price. (More details below)
For as little as $36 in the first month you'll fast-track the second year of the comic and see pages 106-215! Releases from September 2017 onward are limited to one per month (This page is from our August 2018 releases). We're quickly approaching daily page production!
Please note, Milo's story has 18+ Content (with an option to censor those pages), but is primarily a romance story, please don't join expecting 90% of the content to be pornographic, you'll be disappointed!
-------------------------------------------------- NEWS FEED We've launched our new $15+/$20+ VIP rewards! Two exclusive pin-ups every month, voted for and shaped by our VIP users and limited to that month's VIP supporters!
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See all of Milo's story exclusively via our distribution server through Patreon! Higher resolution pages than here, even at $6!
For the first payment, you get the first 105 pages of the comic right away! Each month after your support gets you around 18 pages (less if they're multi-panel), which is around 30 cents a page! This number of pages quickly increases to 25 panels, or 25 cents a page!
$9/Mo will get you triple the resolution you see here! $20 each month gets you 2 exclusive adult pin-up images, which you vote on, and preview sketches, on top of highest tier resolution (x5 this!). https://www.patreon.com/catastrophe
New supporters can fast-track through the second year of the comic's releases, buying multiple months up to page 215 (August 2017's releases), you can get as much as 215 pages in the first month for as little as $36 (more for higher resolutions). This caps at the August 2017 release, which will then slow to month-at-a-time releases again.
This comic is a real labor of love for us and your support is what makes it possible to be making a page nearly every day. If you'd like to receive chapters in their completion and help support the comic, you can visit our Patreon account at https://www.patreon.com/catastrophe
So you're increasing rates. At $36 initial buy in (to August 2017), plus $6/month, means that to reach this point (Sept 2018), someone would have to pay $114 and wait a year (since they only get content one month at a time after initial buy in). I think I'll still wait for the day that it's all finished and released as a complete series/comic. Keep up the good work.
So you're increasing rates. At $36 initial buy in (to August 2017), plus $6/month, means that to rea
That's totally your choice, subscribing to something like Patreon isn't for everyone. Thank you for the compliment though and hopefully you'll keep enjoying what we're able to show here ^^
Our incentives are mostly time, exclusivity and bonus content in the form of the little pin-up M/M vignettes. We're going to be offering the next project perhaps exclusively to patrons of this project and, as we've stated a few times, we don't want to consider publishing until we can see the finish line on the project, in a few years, and it's likely to be relatively costly to purchase as a complete thing just based on the number of pages. All conversations for the future of course, but worth our pointing out for those weighing up the options.
That's totally your choice, subscribing to something like Patreon isn't for everyone. Thank you for
I'll keep watching. In terms of attempting to gauge options, each panel of Catastrophe is maybe a 1/4 page of a normal, multipanel publication - so as of this page, a print copy would be around 97 pages. ASB Yearbook edition was around 288 pages (issues 1-8) and was about $40; and those were multipanel, comic/graphic novel size pages. The full color comic "The Internship: Volume 1 - Fall" by Jackaloo (136 full color pages) for $29.95. As previously mentioned, rabbit valley has a fairly large library to ballpark pricing.
In terms of length, Catastrophe started about 3 years ago, so if it ran another 3 years, and produced the same number of panels, it's be around 778 panels, or about 194 pages. So somewhere in the $50 range perhaps. Which would be approximately 10% of the cost of being a Patreon to the same endpoint ($36 intiial, +$114/year*4 years: $492). For those who are weighing their options.
I'll keep watching. In terms of attempting to gauge options, each panel of Catastrophe is maybe a 1/
Print costs and what price we settle on can also be different, obviously we aren't going to charge 10 times less what the people who paid for the comic to be made paid and your math there is all kinds of off (For one, the total would be $330 and the page count double, at least). Careful not to seem like you're preaching there, friend. Discussion is fine, but a soapbox on our gallery floor telling people not to support the comic isn't really fair, or the place.
The Internship Vol 1 was $30 for 136 pages, well that's how Jackaloo chose to price it, he also has it up on his gallery online for free which impacts the price. I love that comic, but time and complexity are different for comics too. Debatable, if the quality of work even matters in comics, but I'd feel confident saying the rendered backgrounds and soft shading we do take more time and so, in our mind, have more value to them.
Speculation, BUT: the width to height format into a book is likely to be 3 of our pages per page of a book, if you zoom out and hold up paper to the screen it's nowhere near 4 a page, it's barely 3. The project, depending on how much and how quickly it is funded, is likely to be larger than your estimate too. I said likely it's 3 years ahead before we get to a point where we think about publishing, that's from the 20-30 pages a month rate we're at now - so that's about 900-1200 more panels. We'd be looking at a 450-ish page comic book (we've already made 400 pages), so even covering Jackaloo's example (22 cents a page) you're talking closer to $100
On to the quick and dirty math, the current total purchase price for the 400 pages made is $114 ($36 for the first 205 pages, $78 for the 13 months since then at $6 a month), in three years time it'd be another $216 (($6x12 = 72) x3) so $330. Regardless, the cost to page ratio isn't static: more people come over for more pages more quickly. If we get a 20% rise in popularity that'd be a 20% drop in page-per-month costs OR a 20% drop in months to completion. Even if we hit that this time next year, that's 4 months less to pay in the last two years (or a saving of $24). If we stopped then, and considered that our production costs per page are maybe 50% more than Jackaloo (33 cents a page), you come to more like $125 for the comic. If we can only fit two panels on a page not three, that's actually 33 cents per page for something that patrons would be paying 33 cents for at the projected increase to 36 pages per $6/month period in the example above. So the total comic at 3 a page would be more like a third cheaper.
Print costs and what price we settle on can also be different, obviously we aren't going to charge 1
I don't really approve of waving math around as a weapon to prove your point, and I thnk Jackaloo deserves all the support he gets.
But estimating around $1000 a page production support for Internship versus $400-$600 for us to make the same number of character panels, the amount of residual profit from production support between the amount of content in Jackaloo's first issue (excluding what I assume are 21 splash pages and pin-ups for the bonus pages on top of the 115 comic pages for Summer's Gone (47) and Intern V1(68)) between that and 136 pages 400 widescreen formats of our comic fits into it's somewhere around $35,000 to $50,000 profit we have to make up to break even... I think at that rate it might explain why he's not worried about $30 for the physical copy, we'd only need to sell about 1,400 comics at that price to make up the difference ^^;
I don't really approve of waving math around as a weapon to prove your point, and I thnk Jackaloo de
