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Malachyte

Just a couple things

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No big long rant, I just want to lay out some facts about me and Inkbunny, and you can react accordingly.

•I support transgender people.

•I don't support hate speech against any group.

•I don't support people who view freedom of speech as the magic excuse for telling someone they aren't human and have no right to exist.

•Inkbunny's TOS, under Posting Content, states, "* your content does not contain material that defames or vilifies any person or group of people and is not harassing, threatening, harmful, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, abusive or inflammatory;"

•I choose not to leave Inkbunny for a difference of morals, because I'll run out of places to exist if I run away from every site with issues like these.

•This website is for all of us, not just some of us.
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Selene
Selene
6 years, 9 months ago
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Somehow I think that this thing really got out of hand
Inkbunny is a pretty cool and relaxed site (really almost ever other site has stuff like this constantly)
Good to see that you are not leaving
and  I support what you did write
GratitudeAdvocate
GratitudeAdvocate
6 years, 9 months ago
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Thank you for maintaining civility and understanding. :3
baseballdude4578
baseballdude4578
6 years, 9 months ago
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Thanks for sticking by, it's sad that people keep on and on kicking into this hornet nest, ruining everyone's day...
Balmung
Balmung
6 years, 9 months ago
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I must have missed something since I do not know what this relates to, but I'm in complete agreement with this post.

Edit: Also, I am glad you are sticking around.
NB
NB
6 years, 9 months ago
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I'm not gonna say much about it here so as to not get anything started in this journal, like so many of the others I've seen today, but someone posted something that others didn't like and now people are apparently leaving because of it. Frankly it's all gotten bigger than it probably should have but that might just be me.
baseballdude4578
baseballdude4578
6 years, 9 months ago
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I think the main reason why people are leaving is because one admin locked the post, but then the site-owner unlocked it, "in the name of free speech"
NB
NB
6 years, 9 months ago
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*shrug* Maybe it's just cause I don't care one way or the other but I don't see this as a valid reason to leave the site.
baseballdude4578
baseballdude4578
6 years, 9 months ago
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I understand the thought process behind it being "If the site owner won't protect us and the people whom we care about, why should we even bother with a place like this?"
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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I mean, maybe you should care?
I've always viewed the furry community as a place where you can be open and proud of what you are, no matter what that may be.  Sure, things might get dick-nipples crazy, but if that's what you want your nipples to be, then you have a space to express that, and more power to you.  Homosexuality? Not even batting an eye; of course that's cool here!  Cub stuff?  Ink Bunny welcomes you.  Pansexuality?  Fuck yah!  Genderfluidy? EW NO GROSS SCIENCE SAYS NO.  WE HATE YOU AND YOU'RE WRONG.

How does that jive?  Why draw the line there?  
NB
NB
6 years, 9 months ago
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Well I'm not genderfluid so anything for or against it doesn't really effect me or anyone I personally know. Not saying anyone who is shouldn't care or that they don't matter.

Note: Couldn't help but laugh at the dick-nipple bit wither you meant it to be funy or not as I have seen that before.
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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"We must all fear evil men.  But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."
I'm not saying you should get up and boycott IB.  I'm just saying maybe don't try to be a dick when people are having a problem.  Don't watch something happen and tell other watchers, "Nah, this is fine, they're overreacting."

I was trying to inject a little levity, yes.  Because I don't want to be adversarial.  *Shrug*  Being furry, in itself, is a weird thing that science should be saying no to and studies and yada yada and the correct humanoid unicorn says that 99.8 percent of all humanoids are actually  human so fuck you there's no furries. I mean.  Shit, dude. We, of all people, should be the last bastion of hope and kindness towards people of differing kinks, genders, body types, dick-nipplatude.  I don't want to fight with you.  You're not the one being the asshole.  You're just watching an asshole be an asshole and the people he's assing upon are like, "yo, this is fucked," and you're like, "Y'all just doing this for the attention"  and that ain't cool.

So, like.  Be cool, yo.

If you don't care, or have a stake in the matter, just let it be.

If you think they're doing it for the attention, saying they're doing it for the attention is still giving them attention!  That's what makes doing things for the attention such a devious act!

... I don't know what I'm saying any more.
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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Someone posted something clearly hateful and insulting, intentionally meant to aggravate and harass a group of people who have done nothing wrong.  The picture was taken down (under the site's no harassment TOS), then put back up by the owner of the site because reasons.

That seems pretty big to me.
ShaneAndCo
ShaneAndCo
6 years, 9 months ago
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Except it was questioning gender fluidity. Not transgenders.

So there was nothing directed at people.
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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So then genderfluid people should be mad!  Note I didn't mention who the hate was aimed at, just that there was hate aimed at a group of people.  Still pretty shitty, yo.
ShaneAndCo
ShaneAndCo
6 years, 9 months ago
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So now show me what the hate is about exactly.

He said 99.8% of the people are male or female, which would make 0.2% something else, including genderfluid.
Research supports those numbers mostly.  (0.6% of the adult population in the US, and they have relatively more genderfluid people than the rest of the world...or at least, people that are able to out themselves as such)

So again, where is the hate?
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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"The correct gender unicorn"
Correct implying anything else is wrong.

"There are two genders"
A hard statement again implying that anything else is wrong

"Stop abusing kids with lies"
Abuse is a strong word, indicating that this knowledge is harmful, meaning that the progenitors of this knowledge are also harmful.

So let's CTRL+H some words here...

"The correct sexuality unicorn"
"There is one sexuality: Straight."
"Stop abusing kids with lies."

So, again, where is the hate?
ShaneAndCo
ShaneAndCo
6 years, 9 months ago
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1) It is correct. It says the scientific facts. The one it's parodying is also saying facts though.
(You know the gender unicorn exists, right?)

2) Matter of definition of the word gender. The dictionary still says:
"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."

3) 7 and 8 year olds should not yet learn about this stuff. Having 2 kids of that age myself, they will learn it on their own volition. Shoving it in their throats is indeed abuse.
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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OH FUCK DUDE YOU GOT ME

Except that

1) Is correct, except for the things in the post which actually state that, no, it is not correct.  Whoops, doublethink.  (I did not know that the gender unicorn existed before you pointed it out.)

2) Dictionary definitions can and have and will change.  If studies find that even .01% of people are gender fluid then guess what the definition is wrong and can and will change.  That's what science does, yo.  It finds out the truth and then adapts its definitions to that truth.

3) except that failing to teach children how to be inclusive and accepting of things different from themselves leads to bullying and abuse.  We don't need to tell them that they might be a rainbow of genders, just that they need to be aware that their worldview isn't the only one and hey, maybe be cool when you encounter something other than what you're used to.
ShaneAndCo
ShaneAndCo
6 years, 9 months ago
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2) Except that genderfluid has been around a pretty long time already and that definition is still in there.
So no, it's not changing anytime soon.

3) And is that up to  a) groups doing workshops at schools or to b) the parents?
It's b) by the way. a) is child abuse for that age.
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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2) LOL was a thing in the early 90's, took almost 20 years for it to get into the dictionary.  Not... not the greatest example, but.

3) It really depends on how it's handled.  But the idea of, "It's up to the parents," is how a lot of things were handled, and guess what, you don't need a degree in Not Being an Asshole to be a parent you just need seed and egg so, like, most parents are probably not going to handle that shit well, or even be aware that there is a problem, or might even make the problem worse.  "Daddy, society says it is up to you to decide how I react to black people and gay people and anyone that isn't like me," "Well, child, my parents taught ME that everything that isn't straight white christian is inhuman and going to hell, so, I guess that."  "Thanks father, I am now properly prepared to face the world."
Tahla
Tahla
6 years, 9 months ago
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Just a herd of drama llamas wandering through, they'll be on their way in a few days!
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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So I guess gay people asking for their right to be accepted and respected were also just drama llamas?  I guess African Americans asking for their right to live in a society without being spit on or lynched was just them taking a ride in a whambulance?

Cool life view you got there, pal.  
NB
NB
6 years, 9 months ago
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Well they didn't respond to it with "I'm taking my toys and leaving!" They actually did something about it and if I remember my history correctly African Americans did it in a peaceful manner.

Edit: Also congrats on making a post that didn't ask for drama and injecting some into it.
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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Generally speaking: Because taking your toys and leaving is much harder to do when your 'toys' are a home, a family, and a job, and leaving means exiting a country and getting accepted into another one, which, at the time, probably wouldn't have been much better.

Also: Boycotting a place is doing something about it.

Also: expressing your discontent is doing something about it

Also: Leaving is a peaceful manner.

What do you think they did?  Do you want parades?  Million Man Marches?  Sit-ins?  And every step of the way I bet there was someone like you going, "boy, those black people sure are causing a lot of fuss over nothing."

Edit: manor/manner
NB
NB
6 years, 9 months ago
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" And every step of the way I bet there was someone like you going, "boy, those black people sure are causing a lot of fuss over nothing."


Well of course there were I'm amazed you feel you have to bet on that as if there were any doubt. Also I don't remember saying it was a big fuss over nothing, but thanks for putting words into my mouth to support your argument. And yes those are peaceful actions, but so far the only person I've seen act in a peaceful manner about this is Mal. It may just be my way of looking at it cause to me leaving a community site because someone said something that doesn't agree with you is on the same level as a child throwing a fit for not getting their way. Also the "I'm leaving" journals have always struck me as a cry for attention, blame artist who used to make them once every couple of months just so people would praise them into staying for that. My personal feelings on this is it should have stayed in Roary's corner of the site and that there shouldn't be a need for people to make journals or counter posts to explain their stance on it. The admin would have likely gotten involved one way or another but all the same I still feel this should have just stayed in that one corner of the site but that would have required it be handled more discreetly than it was.
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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" Frankly it's all gotten bigger than it probably should have but that might just be me."
I'm putting your words in your mouth.  Maybe not verbatim, but still.

And, whether or not people leaving the site is a cry for attention is a whole other matter.

The matter being: The site's owner is, in his actions, supporting hate speech.
NB
NB
6 years, 9 months ago
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Don't forget this:

"My personal feelings on this is it should have stayed in Roary's corner of the site and that there shouldn't be a need for people to make journals or counter posts to explain their stance on it. The admin would have likely gotten involved one way or another but all the same I still feel this should have just stayed in that one corner of the site but that would have required it be handled more discreetly than it was."

Though perhaps I should have said "handled better" as opposed to "discreetly". Anyway I don't feel anyone should have to make post discussing their stance on a political issue primarily because this isn't a political site. That's why I say it should have stayed in Roary's corner, he made a politically related post(parody or not, as I've heard just a moment ago) and the debate about it spread out to the rest of the site when, again to me, it should have stayed in that post cause hey he opened the door.
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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I mean.  Again, it isn't just the post.  It's that the owner of the site enforced the post.  That makes it a site-wide subject.  At any moment, GR could make the site a neon pink that hurts the eyes to look upon and have the site play a midi version of "wrecking ball" non stop.  That is his right.  It up to us to decide if we're okay with that.  The posts you're seeing are people deciding that, nah, they don't want to be on a site where the owner and all-powerful-god-king is enforcing hate speech.
Tahla
Tahla
6 years, 9 months ago
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People are allowed to express their views, right or wrong on the internet. The adult thing to do when confronted with a moronic picture is to 'cool story bro' your way outta there, and block and ban the offending person if you dislike their work. IB is not really an appropriate forum to have deep, engaging political/philosophical debates, hence the immediate devolution into ranting and raving on both sides.

I thought the original picture was disrespectful and his viewpoints stupid. I blocked him and his art. Problem solved. My flaming him, leaving the website, or anything else does nothing to help either side- no arguments will ever be won arguing on the internet, especially on a niche furry art website that has zero effect on the outside world. So yeah, I think all the people completely freaking out are drama llamas, and are handling the situation poorly, in the least adult manner available to them. The person who posted the picture got exactly what he wanted, and that's what the sad thing is.
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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The problem isn't the picture.
I mean, the picture is a problem, but not what people are upset about.
The picture was taken down via the sites 'no harassment' policy.  Then it was put back up by the site's owner.
THAT.  is the problem.
It gives the perception that the site's owner tacitly endorses that particular brand of harassment.  Which, given his comments on the matter, he does.
Tahla
Tahla
6 years, 9 months ago
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The original post may have been 'inflammatory' given the site's overall leaning and the people who use it, but I wouldn't call it harassment. If anything it was more informative, given his text in the description that I believe linked to various news articles or something about the situation- I can't double check because I've blocked him and his art. I don't see that it was overly aggressive, pointing specifically at any one person, or even group of people- only expressing an opinion in a forum that's clearly going to have a majority opposite opinion. If anything it was cleverly trolling and hoping it would blow up like a powder keg. Unfortunately, there wasn't really any reason TOS wise to take it down, except for the drama that ensued and has now swept across the entire website because of it, which I imagine is why it was put back up- it may have been distasteful, but didn't overtly break any rules. If I went to a overly anti-transgender website and posted art in support of gender fluidity, I wouldn't want my work taken down for the exact same reasons.

But in any case, us discussing this further has no purpose as we are clearly both set in our own opinions! Hence, 'cool story bro'. *salutes* This was an interesting discussion.
worldf0x
worldf0x
6 years, 9 months ago
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I guess the only thing to say then is

Cool story, bro.
dmfalk
dmfalk
6 years, 9 months ago
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*hug*

d.m.f.
(Who is TG, and has found this site to be an improvement over others, for this very reason.)
MeganBryar
MeganBryar
6 years, 9 months ago
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Very well said, and thank you. I'm very glad to know that there are supportive and understanding people here, and that you're going to stick with us. I thought about leaving, but the way I see it is, if everyone leaves because of a few dumb comments, that doesn't do anybody any good. It certainly doesn't help change any minds. I'm not one for moral crusading, really. I come here because it's fun and I try to stick to art and fun things. But I know how much it can help to know you're not alone, too.
ShaneAndCo
ShaneAndCo
6 years, 9 months ago
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If this over the roarey comic I'm sorta confused.
Since 3 and 4 are nowhere near in his comics. He was just questioning gender as being fluid. That is a seperate thing from being transgender.
Offended people made it about transgenders, but that was not his intent as he clarified later.

Anyway. Glad you at least decide to stick around =3
NB
NB
6 years, 9 months ago
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$100 says most people didn't bother to read the description.
Bianca
Bianca
6 years, 9 months ago
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Spoiler alert, man sticks hand in fire, surprised by fire being hot; gets burned.

Also, freedom of speech protects the citisens from its *government* not from other citisens.
esanhusky
esanhusky
6 years, 9 months ago
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Yay, glad you're sticking around!

I would certainly prefer to live in a world where I don't feel like I need to hide what I am, but not at the expense of people feeling like they can't express their own feelings.
NB
NB
6 years, 9 months ago
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And for that I present you with a cookie. People seem to forget that just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them less of a person.
esanhusky
esanhusky
6 years, 9 months ago
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Yay, cookie!

There is far too much of a "with me or against me" attitude, and far too much of an attitude that everybody must agree fully on all things or they have no right to express themselves about anything, and I feel that's causing major rifts that should be avoided.

I also feel that overreacting to things like this actually puts people like me more at risk, because there's always been an "Eye for an eye" attitude
NB
NB
6 years, 9 months ago
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Well that means you get two cookies now. Both statements are very true.
torchlight
torchlight
6 years, 9 months ago
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So far this is the first I've heard of it.

Glad you are staying, and yes I agree with this journal.

Yeah why bother even having a TOS if you don't enforce it? I know this site is more relaxed, but hate speech is never something to relax the rules about!
kitsunelegend
kitsunelegend
6 years, 9 months ago
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I'm glad you're sticking around, and I agree with all your points. I know at least two transgender people (3 if you count an artist over on FA I watch) and I've found them to be very fun and awesome people to hang out with. One of which I like to think I've become pretty good friends with.

I will however say, I truly do wish that people would leave all this political stuff over on twitter or tumblr. Not to say this issue isn't extremely important, but this is a furry art site. I come here for awesome furry art posted by my favorite artists and hang out with like minded people how also may be furries. But this whole thing is causing a lot of artists to leave, which I perfectly understand why and support their choice in the end, but it still completely sucks because now I won't get see their art, or talk with them, or hang with them, or anything like that anymore. And that honestly makes me really sad...

I'm really sorry y'all have to deal with this utter non-sense that those types of people put out. I just wish they'd leave this political bs off this site...
seraph
seraph
6 years, 9 months ago
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Yup. I'm not quite ready to cut ties with this site just yet, but if Greenreaper doesn't start coming down on this, "cub haven" will be the least of Inkbunny's reputation problem.
AphroditeDraco
AphroditeDraco
6 years, 9 months ago
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With all due respect, it was one person's opinion, which he had the right to have.  It was NOT "hate speech" and it was NOT "saying trans people aren't human."  

What it was saying is that gender is biological (and according to the dictionary, that is what gender means).  The problem is that people use the words "Gender" and "Gender Roles" interchangeably, when they are in fact NOT interchangeable.  Gender=Biological Sex.  Gender Roles=A societal construct based on people's feelings.

I have no idea when it happened, but somewhere along the way some revisionist somewhere decided to shorten "Gender Roles" into just "Gender," and that's where the confusion comes from.  

Also, while I deeply disagree with some poinits on the issue in question, the fact of the matter is that Free Speech DOES include Hate Speech.  The whole purpose of Freedom of Speech is to be able to say unpopular things without being imprisoned or executed for it.  Do I agree with hate speech that dehumanizes people?  No.  But that doesn't mean I have any business demanding that the people who use it be silenced.  It's not my call, and it's not your call.  

And some folks here like to say that if you're allowed to speak, it's the same as doing the deed?  That's like saying that if you're allowed to draw cub porn that therefore you are automatically raping children.  Words do NOT constitute deeds anymore than drawing a cub porn picture constitutes raping a real child.
kitsunelegend
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6 years, 9 months ago
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" InannaEloah wrote:
Also, while I deeply disagree with some poinits on the issue in question, the fact of the matter is that Free Speech DOES include Hate Speech.  The whole purpose of Freedom of Speech is to be able to say unpopular things without being imprisoned or executed for it.


Except thats not what "free speech" actually is just fyi.

http://i.imgur.com/h2IFGFz.png

That explains everything you need to know about "free speech". Sure, you can say hate speech without fear of being arrested or executed by the government. But that does NOT mean you can spew that same hate speech, and be safe from repercussions on an online forum or website. People have every right to kick you out or ban you from their website if you say things they don't like, or if it goes against the site's TOS, which the issue in question, in fact, does indeed go against, as pointed out by Mal up top.
AphroditeDraco
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6 years, 9 months ago
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And yet you completely fail to recognize the fact that what the person said in that drawing was NOT hate speech and does NOT dehumanize trans people and is therefore NOT against the site's TOS.  

Also, you don't get to ruin people's lives for refusing to silence people who have opinions that differ from yours.  You don't get to use "hate speech" as an excuse to harass people online anymore than it gives you an excuse to sucker punch neo-Nazis on a street corner.  You are still required to abide by the law of the land, even when the other person says something that offends you.
kitsunelegend
kitsunelegend
6 years, 9 months ago
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Except it did, because the user in question claimed that transgender people are ill and need help, making them sound no better than someone with the plague or someone with severe brain damage. That alone vilifies and defames the transgender community, which is EXACTLY against the TOS, again as pointed out by Mal.
AphroditeDraco
AphroditeDraco
6 years, 9 months ago
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Except GreenReaper is the site owner, not you, and as the site owner, he gets to decide how to interpret it, not you.  What you consider hate speech is not necessarily what he will consider hate speech.  Also, do try to remember that he has access to records that you and I don't have access to.  Just because what he did offends you does NOT make it against the Terms of Service.

By the way, transgender people DO need help, to deal with dysphoria (by the way, gender dysphoria IS classified as a mental problem, because it causes the sufferer distress, and that distress is the key to a mental illness diagnosis in the DSM-V), to deal with their feelings, to get hormones, to transition.  It is NOT hate speech to state something that is a fact about trans people.  This angry, violent, and vile response by folks over a drawing is just one of many examples of why people don't trust trans people.  You yourself, as well as all the other angry responders who harassed that artist and got him suspended on other sites are the real haters here, not him.  If you want people to listen to you, then goddamnit, you need to act civilly, even with people you don't agree with.  Trying to ruin a man's life is not civil, and by your own standards your behavior is Hate Speech.  Want people to stop calling you out as the hypocrite you are?  Stop doing what you condemn in other people.

By the way, I am a trans person, and I do NOT appreciate you using people like me as a justification for your arrogant and vicious behavior against someone who has a difference of opinion.  People like you are doing far more to further the cause of the haters than one guy who draws a pink unicorn and says there are two genders and that gender is biological ever could.
kitsunelegend
kitsunelegend
6 years, 9 months ago
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I seriously think you need to go back and re-read what I said.

You stated free speech as the reason GreenReaper did what he did, even though it breaks the TOS. I even used an example of what breaks the TOS, due to the way it was worded. Given the context of the whole situation, even though he may have simply meant dysphoria (which I do agree is a major issue for transgender people), the context in which that statement was used made it sound far worse, and far more demeaning and insulting. And therefore, it still technically breaks this sites TOS.

Basically, I was simply correcting your improper usage of what free speech means, but you went and assumed I'm some crazy transphobic lunatic out to ruin people's lives because they don't have the same opinion as me.

Whatever floats your boat I guess.
AphroditeDraco
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6 years, 9 months ago
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" kitsunelegend wrote:
I seriously think you need to go back and re-read what I said.


No, I don't.  I understood it perfectly.  Just because I still happen to disagree with you does not mean that I misread you.

" Basically, I was simply correcting your improper usage of what free speech means, but you went and assumed I'm some crazy transphobic lunatic out to ruin people's lives because they don't have the same opinion as me.


No, you weren't, and no, I didn't.  You need to grow the fuck up and stop putting words in people's mouths.  I never said you were a transphobe, but I will go so far as to call you an idiot, because you obviously think that putting words in people's mouths is a great way to make a point, which is something only an idiot would believe.

By the way, I know full well what free speech actually is.  You were not correcting me, you were being an ass and now you're being defensive because I called you out for being an ass.
JamesWN
JamesWN
6 years, 9 months ago
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I seem to have missed a thing...
blindrabbit
blindrabbit
6 years, 9 months ago
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** watches **

Shakes head...

"I am glad you are not going no where... because I love your work and support your stance."

Tiff
BizyMouse
BizyMouse
6 years, 9 months ago
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well I didn't join the fandom for political activism either, and I have no idea how people in it can expect everyone who wants to be a part of it to have the same views as them. everyones building forts and I mostly just wanna draw cartoon animal people
graymuzzle
graymuzzle
6 years, 9 months ago
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FA is like Putin's Russia; millions live in fear of the knock on the door. SoFurry is like Trump's America; we hang around out of morbid curiosity to see what, if anything will happen. That leaves the 'Bunny. I like it here, especially since it's the coolest place to hang out.
AlexanderValentine
AlexanderValentine
6 years, 9 months ago
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Honestly, I'm lost on a majority of this.

What I know is that someone made a Picture that was offensive, the mods took it down, a mod put it back up, and everyone is either for or against transgenders.

(I'm not Trans, but I am supportive of transgenders, BTW)
Alaskafox
Alaskafox
6 years, 9 months ago
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Out of all the people expressing their opinions on the matter, I like yours the best.
As long as I've known you you have been a very open minded and respectful individual.

I've said my two bits about it elsewhere in the most respectful manner that I could for both sides while also staying true to myself but in regards to this topic, it seems like very few people want to put down their weapons.
Glire
Glire
6 years, 9 months ago
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I'd just like to point out something about this 0.2% statistic.

In the United States, 0.2% of the population would be around 650,000 people. That's also the population of Portland, Oregon.

This is how many people we're talking about. Several hundred thousand people got told by this person that their identity doesn't matter. The use of a percentage is, frankly, cowardly, hiding behind a very small number to obscure a very large one.

We don't tell the population of a major American city they don't get to identify how they want. Even if that number is authentic, and I question whether it is, We shouldn't say it to nonbinary people, either.
Ketsa
Ketsa
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"•I choose not to leave Inkbunny for a difference of morals, because I'll run out of places to exist if I run away from every site with issues like these."

This core idea is the single most important thing I ever learned in college.
Soulfire
Soulfire
6 years, 9 months ago
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"I may disagree with what you say , but i'll defend to the death your right to say it " - Votaire

o.o  
LepusArcticus
LepusArcticus
6 years, 9 months ago
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I agree!
LeLoup
LeLoup
6 years, 9 months ago
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Here here. :)
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