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Comatose

Ottertons Plea Comic issues

So if it wasn’t obvious, I’ve been getting a bunch of feedback concerning the writing and dialogue of this comic. And yeah.. it’s not good. I apologize for the effort placed and squandering the capabilities of the character. Here was my original intention:

So I started with wanting to do a completely different comic with Rachel, my other zoot otter, and wrote that script. Well when I started actually drawing her I realized real quick that my consistency with drawing zootopia style otts isn’t there. So I decided I needed a bit more practice. From there I spent a couple weeks drawing literally only Mrs otterton and was thinkin, “what do I do with these?”. It was about 20 somethin drawings. I tried to cobble together a “passable” story and put the photos together into a “comic”. Well clearly in some form once it was released it was pretty obvious that it wasn’t going the direction that people hoped. I feel like most kinda expected a Siroc level effort and got quickly disappointed with the result.

I am going to redact the comic from the public, as I feel it’s not in the quality state that I want to put out to you guys. You’ll get a few more usual horny cub pics from me in the next coming month as usual.

And don’t worry, I’ll still be releasing the Rachel comic (it was my original intention anyways). But first I’m gonna go through some major behind the scenes feedback with other writers and story tellers before I draw this one.

I’m really sorry guys, I know most of you were expecting some awesome otterton stuff and I just let you down. I’m still a student in all of this and trust me it’s all a giant learning process that isn’t for the faint of heart. Everyone trips but it’s all about getting back up and continuing.

~Coma
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Added: 4 months, 1 week ago
 
cmcfilly
4 months, 1 week ago
I can tell you where you went wrong.

Mrs otterton was a sympathetic character with a sad and compelling story and plus she was the central character that sparked the movie's narrative forward. The idea of her being taken advantage of in the manner you portrayed most likely rubbed alot of people the wrong way.

I'm sure there are plenty of people out there whose kink is what you were writing but based on this journal post, the majority of your followers don't care for this narrative. Myself included but I had hopped it would be saved by some kind of narrative ploy such as Mrs otterton secretly already having cheated on her husband once and the idea of doing so again turned her on(random idea off the top of my head not what I wanted, not sure what i wanted out of that plot tbh), or something to make the story feel less like a coerced sex narrative.

I'm sure you'll come up with something but if you're in need of a writer for your comics, hit me up, I do like to write a comic plot from time to time but I haven't the artistic talent to bring it to life so to speak. ^^;
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
Later on in the comic it was gonna be shown that she actually enjoys touching herself and that it's been so long since she's done it herself, but it was written into a hole that I didn't necessarily plan out from the beginning.

Like I said, this whole project started as a bunch of otterton drawings that I decided to cobble together into some "story" that justified even having that many pictures, and yeah obviously it didn't pan out. It bothered me too that otterton was being abused to this degree but my mind was like, "if she likes cheating on her husband (siroc) then just having her strip for a stranger isnt as bad i guess". Guess I was proven wrong

Either way, I shouldve never cobbled these pictures and advertised it as a "comic". Shouldve kept it as just a series of her touching herself becuase she was bored or whatever.

RaineShadowpaw
4 months, 1 week ago
Gosh Do I know this feeling...
Backlash91
4 months, 1 week ago
I personally thought it was fine, and loved how she looked. No complaints from me, only praise. I dont read siroc's comic, but i was reading yours.
Florez
4 months, 1 week ago
Seconded!
Demesejha
4 months, 1 week ago
Yeah this was fine, i dont understand any complaints. I was looking forward to see where it went.
BaneDarkshadow
4 months, 1 week ago
I did read sirocs comics and I was still looking forward to a different take :/ screw the haters
FreekyCreep
4 months, 1 week ago
Agree. I didn't hate it, I was interested to see where it went.
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
I thought the art looked fine, and it still does, but really it wasn't my initial intent to make it a comic with a plot and so on. I will probably release the rest of the drawings as a "sketchfolio" without dialogue so that way I'm not just withholding all of it.

Appreciate the support though. Really I only do this stuff because you guys enjoy it so much.
Backlash91
4 months, 1 week ago
I will say this at least. I love that you didn't give her fricken huge breasts, that alone was super pleasing to see. but you do the art how YOU wanna do it. on't let other talk you into or out of stuff for their enjoyment kay?

I'll still support ya, and i love your otterton stuff!
EvoTaija
4 months ago
What, you don't like unnecessarily massive dobonhonkeros on your otters? :O
Shippo
4 months, 1 week ago
I stand by what Backlash91 said!!
ChesterCARTOON
4 months, 1 week ago
All cool. It happens.

If you need help writing, lemme know.  I'm good at that, and it would be great to help you on one of those amazing comics you make 😉
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
Appreciate the offer! Although now I have no intent of fixing this one, instead I will be working on my ACTUAL INTENDED comic featuring Rachel. This one only happened because I needed to justify the previously 20 something drawing of ottertons I had and tried to cobble up a story with them.
Tricksta
4 months, 1 week ago
Yep I did see that one. It was drawn pretty nice. Just a lot of text boxes.
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
Forced story writing in a nutshell. I had all those pre drawn ottertons and had to more or less "puzzle" it together without drawing even more stuff, so I ended up cramming so much text into a single panel/page. Was just a bad idea to try and make a comic out of something that was never intended to be a comic.
DrgnHybrid
4 months, 1 week ago
I personally loved it. Hopefully you'll continue it up sometime.
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
Thanks! Well I will release it as a "sketchfolio" without dialogue in the future but I'm gonna shift effort to my actual intended comic featuring Rachel.
DrgnHybrid
4 months ago
No worries. I like all your stuff personally! Take care of yourself.
Tamatamochka
4 months, 1 week ago
Whaat?! Your comic is perfect, why did you hide it?! I curse those people who advised you to do this! Curse-ye-ha-me-ha!
LouisDanes
4 months, 1 week ago
Man, people ruin everything. I was loving everything about the comic. Well, I hope you'll bring it back in time
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
Nah they're right. I shouldn't be piecing pictures together like this but instead better planning it out from the get go. This will be released as a "sketchfolio" without dialogue in the near future.
Shippo
4 months ago
How about post a journal to see if you can get enough supporters to donate some money to finish the comic? I would absolutely donate some money to see this happen.
scroumf
4 months, 1 week ago
The drawing wasn't the issue for me but more the dialogues and where the plot was going.
I know people here enjoy non-con stuff but that's definitely not for me.
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
Agreed. For me as well I think it looked fine but I shouldn't be trying to cobble together random pictures and trying to make a cohesive story out of it. The other part of me was more like "really she's gonna get exploited like this, AND we don't get to see who's making her do it?" I had a feeling it was going south but I pushed through, big mistake.
scroumf
4 months, 1 week ago
Honestly I'm mostly bothered by the fact you mostly do very cute stuff, and suddenly we have a character going into non-con territory...

Using pictures and making a story out of it can absolutely work, the story you came up with is what I didn't enjoy ^^
Like I said, the drawings were fine.
BiteSizedCookie
4 months, 1 week ago
They tricked you into thinking your good work was bad imho.
I don't see where the idea of her having sex trying to find her husband is worse then cheating on him with Nick and having Nick's babies (Again, just my humble opinion).
You don't need to compare.
What would be the bad plot? She exchange sex for info right before Nick and Judy solve the case?
(I think it's funny xD)
PaydayWolf
4 months, 1 week ago
If you want to chat to a fellow author, feel free to reach out.

But I do want to let you know that the comic was fantastic so far and I really loved it!
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
Appreciate the support! But now I have no intent of fixing it, instead I will be working on my INTENDED comic featuring Rachel. This one only happened because I needed to justify the previously 20 something drawings of otterton I had and tried to cobble up a story with them.
xephion
4 months, 1 week ago
Yeah dont let the loud people control your work just do what you want
FreekyCreep
4 months, 1 week ago
Exactly this! Listening to the negative and hateful few is how we lose good things that the positive majority enjoy
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
It's more of a justification to me vs just me quitting because people don't like. I'll be honest, even I didn't like the story but I thought all people wanted was "uwu naked otter masturbation" so I cobbled it together with some pics of her I had to make something passable. Honestly, more people cared than I thought.
xephion
4 months, 1 week ago
Hey there is nothing wrong to do simple stuff too just enjoy what you draw not everythibg has to be a masterpiece

Is ok to dislike somwthing and wanting to improve but dont let that stop of you of just posting anything too just do what you feel

If you feel you dont like what happened that is valid but dont forget to just enjoy doing things too.
fourward
4 months, 1 week ago
personally, I didn't see any problem with your writing or how Mrs.Otterton was easily taken advantage of, and your art style is amazing. As some have pointed out, this has been done already before by Siroc, and I'm pretty sure there are many more pics of her that kinda has the same narrative as what you wrote. It's not really new, and it's pretty cliche, but very useful and effective to draw a porn comic of her.

idk who pointed out how the narrative doesn't fit her, because she's just a side character with like total of 3 minutes of screentime out of 108 minutes of the movie with only 9 lines. In the end, it's porn and it's not cannon. you can write her in any way you want.
omnomrawr
4 months, 1 week ago
Yeah - it's your story here, Comatose!
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
It was because of the previous narratives written of her is exactly why I took the same direction. BUT I had to figure out how to fit that narrative with like 10-15 pics I had already pre-drawn of otteron undressing herself, and this is what I came up with. It's not my best and if I'm gonna make an actual comic I'm going to be putting WAY more effort than what was shown here.
fourward
4 months, 1 week ago
thats fair! if you feel like you're not satisfied with the result, that's totally fine! it just sounded like you were taking them down because other people weren't satisfied with it. And just wanted to put my two cents to let you know that I liked it
XxSkyxX
4 months, 1 week ago
I think a good middle ground would be to release it as a comic like you were doing BUT redact all dialogue.
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
Pretty much exactly what I'm gonna do. It'll be released as a "sketchfolio" without dialogue. Most won't be colored but hey at least we get a bunch of otterton drawings.
XxSkyxX
4 months, 1 week ago
Good on ya, and it lets people fill in the dialogues they want in their head. Win - Win
PebbleLion
4 months, 1 week ago
My Dude, it's your motherfucking art and your story. Seeking public approval for everything you do will leave you frustrated and burned out. If a few 'fans' realize their protests can make you do this, they will seek even more control over you and what you draw. Approval is nice, but when it starts making you burn down things because these so called fans don't like it, no one wins but them.
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
Nah it's not about the approval, I'm confident in myself as an artist and writer. This whole "comic" was just a bad idea from the get go and I knew it.

The response I got from it is more like a justification of what I kinda already knew. And I'll be honest, even I didn't like the story myself but I thought all people wanted was a "uwu naked otter masturbation". So I cobbled together some pre-drawn pics of her I had to make something passable. And yeah even for me it was.. mehh.. and then when I saw the responses, it became clear. I have no issues with drawing her, I can do that well. But it feels off to have that much effort put into the art then have this weird botched together narrative for the story. It's not my best work and its personal to me that my first comic gets put on record as a good or decent comic, even by my standards, which this one was not.

I wasn't gonna let this comic go for another month or two of releases knowing it was subpar, so I cut it before it really started. No worries, I will release all the pics I did of her as a "sketchfolio" without dialogue. Like an actual set as originally intended and make my ACTUAL comic with Rachel as a main.
PebbleLion
4 months, 1 week ago
Fair enough.
Swinter
4 months, 1 week ago
Oh man, you were listening to the negative people too much.
Draw what you think is fun.

Personally, I loved where it was going and I'm sad to see it being redacted like that.
I mean, was the dialogue very porn-y? Sure. But it's not like I expected anything else. I'm just happen when it's not "lemon stealing whore" level of awful, and you didn't even begin to approach that level.

And comparing yourself to Siroc... That feels like a matter of taste. To me, Sirocs version of Mrs. Otterton looks god awful. Seeing as she's being drawn with breasts the size of her head and all. Yours were in every way superior.
Comatose
4 months, 1 week ago
And trust I'm not gonna let those drawings go to waste, I have like 20 of them and will be releasing it in a "sketchfolio" without the dialogue.

And no I just think it was a weird direction and format for it to be called a "comic". It was very botched and should've never been a story vs just a set of pictures.
xcar
4 months, 1 week ago
I have to agree, it felt that this was going to go on a malicious way, and as Mrs. Otterton is a very beloved character, people doesn't want to see someone is taking advantage of her in her more vulnerable moment.

I'm sure it was not on purpose, but after examples of stories like this as the ones made by Borba and Amadose, maybe people is getting tired of stories of fan fave characters in malicious stories
BabySteps1
4 months, 1 week ago
I can't say I wasn't apprehensive on the direction the story was going, but what I can say is that you're absolutely one of my favorite artists and I always look forward to your submissions.  That's it, just want to say that I really appreciate you and your art. :)
VinMcGrey
4 months, 1 week ago
It's a shame, I'd say you shouldn't let the complaints of the few dictate what you draw. Feels a bit odd considering there's so many more folks that would oppose you for the cub art but you haven't allowed that to stop ya.
ArionEquus
4 months ago
I didn't get a chance to see it. Am sad. :c
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