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SoulCentinel

They got us

Paypal has shut us down as well.
Unlike some, I have already looked at many options such as Stripe and Skrill but they don't work for me.
Commissions won't be an option for a while, maybe never again. Gonna focus on Substar for a while...
If you want to support us, now more than ever, please check out our Substar here!

Stay safe, they are coming for everybody.
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Added: 1 month, 1 week ago
 
ezalias
1 month, 1 week ago
My one hope for crypto was that it would kill Paypal.

This timeline sucks.
CyrusTheCat
1 month, 1 week ago
Perhaps this might help
https://squareup.com/us
Xenos1992
1 month, 1 week ago
What about ko fi & buy me coffee
SoulCentinel
1 month, 1 week ago
Ko-Fi is stripe or paypal based.
TribalDragon
1 month, 1 week ago
make a business Wise account
SoulCentinel
1 month, 1 week ago
Wise requires personal ID such as passport and a facial scan for that.
And the scan refuses to work. I've tried on and off for 3 years.
TribalDragon
1 month, 1 week ago
you probably need a different phone for the scan to be passed.. I was able to get verified when I first got in
otherwise you got payoneer
NyotaMwuaji
1 month, 1 week ago
Wise refuses to work for some people.
KittyPrint
1 month, 1 week ago
Man.  Imagine PayPal not liking money.  Sorry this happened,  hopefully you'll find a replacement soon.
stuffinabox
1 month, 1 week ago
It's not that they don't love money, it's that they hate NSFW material because its stigmatized. Rightly so if you want to keep a clean image.
wollypegger
1 month, 1 week ago
They run into the issue that they're only a payment processor, and if the credit card companies tell them to jump, they ask how high.
Pux
Pux
1 month, 1 week ago
I use Cash App - highly recommended if you're in the UK or US.
TribalDragon
1 month, 1 week ago
you just said it, if everyone interested in commission is not from any of those countries then we're fucked
WillCoon
1 month, 1 week ago
Stop being not-America, then
Balmung
1 month, 1 week ago
Damn that sucks, I was thinking of getting a picture from you some day.

I hope you get this fixed somehow.
Mixterious
1 month, 1 week ago
Artistree masked as sfw
SenGrisane
1 month, 1 week ago
Paypal needs to fucking die and other better services arise.
TribalDragon
1 month, 1 week ago
There are already, people is just too dumb or too paranoid to join. For me, Wise wins and should be the one everyone adopts
VarraTheVap
1 month, 1 week ago
Doesn't wise fully de-anonymize you even as a receiver of money?
TribalDragon
1 month, 1 week ago
not on business accounts.
Besides even if you faked a name for a company in other sites you can still see the owner behind the name by just searching public registries of the brand you legally have to do.
Be realistic anyways you can't do that in any site that handles any country currency, you are bound to bank laws of every country so you have to give your info in all of them, those sites aren't mules for money launderers, they operate tied to multiple laws.

And sure you can bring up crypto but that shit is a ponzi scheme where you can expect losing it all on a blink and it's not that easy to sell it for cash without paying fees that equal a loss
SoulCentinel
1 month, 1 week ago
It asks a lot... yeah.
MasterFluff
1 month, 1 week ago
Why are they shutting down so many furry artists?
ElinQuinn
1 month, 1 week ago
NSFW is banned via PP now.
TribalDragon
1 month, 1 week ago
always has been
ElinQuinn
1 month, 1 week ago
They’re having ai crack down on it but app they’re also scanning websites too and finding links regarding it, thus resulting in the ban practically scrapping the web for that stuff iirc
TribalDragon
1 month, 1 week ago
This is why you never use the paypal.me links, they come with spiders that inform paypal the source.
I used donation handles like Kofi or streamlabs to handle those. And invoices
Gashren
1 month, 1 week ago
Good to know. Not that I have tremendous base of people who'd like to send me money, heh.
Ratarchy
1 month, 1 week ago
ya not even just artist. hell Fansly just shut down all furry NSFW because its "simulated beastiality"
The payment processors are on a tiraid against furry and non-vanilla NSFW.
CatInHeat
1 month, 1 week ago
You can use Substar's pledge button for collecting commission payments
Frostyjack
1 month, 1 week ago
Seems like they're really digging in on this, been hearing things from other platforms too. Is Subscribestar an opinion?
SoulCentinel
1 month, 1 week ago
We have a substar.
https://www.subscribestar.com/hivesoul

I'm not sure if people can donate custom amounts, we might be able to use it for comms if you can.
NyotaMwuaji
1 month, 1 week ago
I think substar actually allows custom one time amounts. I think
Chimecho
1 month, 1 week ago
Have you tried Payoneer?
SoulCentinel
1 month, 1 week ago
Not yet, it could be an option.
BlankFlank6
1 month, 1 week ago
Stupid PayPal.
RainbowSnake
1 month, 1 week ago
Have you tried Venmo?
SlayerBVC
1 month, 1 week ago
Venmo is PayPal, same with Xoom.
Pecan
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Same company, but the services themselves are not connected.

Venmo specifically you can set up a personal and connect a card to it without an SSN/Identification, you just are limited to only transferring under $1000 to your bank account week.

So, theoretically as long as you're on top of transferring the money out, if Venmo bans you you just make a new account.
NyotaMwuaji
1 month, 1 week ago
You weren't putting what the payments were for were you?
Pecan
4 weeks, 1 day ago
Reportedly, PayPal has AI tech that allows them to search for PayPal links offsite to try and see what they're being advertised/used for. Their own .me links may also have a tracking component to see where they were clicked from.
WhiteWhiskey
1 month, 1 week ago
does Artconomy work?
Tenkage
1 month, 1 week ago
well fuck....
WhiteWhiskey
1 month, 1 week ago
Also, an option for commissions could be the tip thing on Subscribestar, if that's still a thing
Ultilix
1 month, 1 week ago
I've seen success with a site called Arty before, that might be worth looking into.
PaydayWolf
1 month, 1 week ago
God I'm getting terrified of this, I've been checking my email daily to see if I have a service termination notice...
OrsonZedd
3 weeks, 3 days ago
I got mine and I don't even sell art
sumatsuki
1 month, 1 week ago
not sure if u want suggestions.
but i have a good experience with revolut, not sure if thats an option where u are tho
Yoshifan5690
1 month, 1 week ago
There happens to be this one from what I saw:
Tipalti

I think it could work, given what some mention of it. So maybe it could work out for you guys?
BogdanUrs
1 month, 1 week ago
i think people need to make an alternative to PayPal because of shit like this

an alternative that would be especially created to be NSFW friendly

then let PayPal burn to death in the fire they have lit
KevinSnowpaw
1 month, 1 week ago
fucking bullshit...


I am so sorry this happend to you :(
knolden
1 month, 1 week ago
Paypal is the worst sort of slimy monopoly.
DireKyre
1 month, 1 week ago
Damn, that really sucks. I'm just absolutely so tired of Paypal's crap.
Argentleaf
1 month, 1 week ago
Disheartening news, let's hope it can get resolved soon
Argentleaf
1 month, 1 week ago
It's true, substar allows one time payments with the "pledge" button
evoyager
1 month, 1 week ago
Sorry to hear that. Mostly I use PayPal to pay for things on video games and one email account that I don't even think I want to keep anymore.
douglas0828
1 month, 1 week ago
plenty of alterative sites rising
PrincessPhoebe
1 month, 1 week ago
cashapp?
Legosikun
1 month, 1 week ago
you could try Ko-fi, no?
SoulCentinel
1 month, 1 week ago
You know ko fi works trough paypal too? there's also the issue that they don't allow nsfw either.
fourball
1 month, 1 week ago
oh man this sucks, I'm sorry to hear that, internet is getting shittier every day
Ynk
Ynk
1 month, 1 week ago
Damn that sucks!! Sorry to hear that :(
Jackerwobb
1 month, 1 week ago
At this point we really should be using crypto. Theres USDC that is the crypto equivalent of the dollar, backed by cash. Commissioners might not like going that way and prefer the convenience or familiarity of paypal, but but they are hostile to nsfw and this situation is harmful to livelyhoods. This wont change if artists dont insist on an alternative en-masse. We gotta escape being beholden to the ethical whims of these third parties. Im irritated seeing this happen to so many. Imaginary porn isnt immoral.
OrsonZedd
3 weeks, 3 days ago
Crypto is some bullshit dude.  all it takes is for some dude to rug pull and suddenly you're poor as the day you were born.  
Jackerwobb
3 weeks, 3 days ago
Nah you dont have to hold the crypto. Just use it for transactions and immediately sell them to convert it to real money.
Crossbow1701
1 month, 1 week ago
Could you use a Substar tier for commissions?
NeoShard
4 weeks, 1 day ago
I second this.
I've seen some artists set up new tiers just for commission work, but there may need to be some prep plans to make it work.
OrsonZedd
3 weeks, 3 days ago
Fuck just when I think about looking up your commission sheet.  This is some bullshit happening to a lot of people
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