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FA Account suspened

I just got suspended on FA just for voicing my opinion about how there only should be
Male and Female for their gender drop down box hahaha!
Thats funny.
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Added: 1 month, 3 weeks ago
 
SpoonFox
1 month, 3 weeks ago
... Gender isn't binary. Not to mention within artwork, you have intersex, hermaphrodite, trans, etc. In the real world we also have intersex individuals.

Mate, you just sound like a fucking uneducated idiot, that's probably why they suspended you. Not to mention you were probably a dick about it. Joke or not, that shit is transphobic. And with so many trans on the staff, you're literally playing with fire. Grow up.
Legoshi
1 month, 3 weeks ago
While you are correct that they were playing with fire given FAs authoritative staff, gender may as well be binary. Even amongst intersex individuals, you can usually tell which binary option is more prevalent, i.e someone will look like a woman despite claiming to be otherwise and vice versa. However, I do agree that in terms of art, there should be more than just the two IRL binary options
SpoonFox
1 month, 3 weeks ago
That means it is a spectrum, not binary. Do you understand what a spectrum is? Or do you just cherry pick what best fits your own narrow world view? Gender is a social construct. You can be and identify anything you want. Sex is a spectrum, where it's more than just XX or XY, and many people have different changes in their body from external stimuli. They are able to change to become more feminine or masculine from their birth. They can adjust parts of their body to become more feminine or masculine. "Ah yes, this wrist is feminine, you must be a female!" doesn't work. "Ah yes, you're mostly male looking! But you have female genitals... You must be male!" Also doesn't work. Let people identify as whatever the fuck they want. It hurts no one. Let people change their body how they want, it hurts no one.

Bringing this 'They must be one or the other' doesn't work. They are what they want to present as, end of story.
Legoshi
1 month, 3 weeks ago
You're right, people can *identify* however they see fit. Though that unfortunately won't change a persons true biological characteristics. Even with medication, even with surgery, they'll be the same :(
By looking at the bone structure or even something as simple as a persons mannerisms (IRL), you can tell a lot about them including their biological sex which helps defines their gender. But again, they can identify as anything they'd like.

I can imagine my fork is a spoon all I'd like but it doesn't allow me to properly consume soup with it
SpoonFox
1 month, 3 weeks ago
"By looking at bone structur-" You're an idiot. You've looked way too much in transphobic propaganda bullshit. You're not worth my time.

And there's such things as sporks, for your fork and spoon analogy goes against your binary argument. And you can melt a fork into a spoon, and you can shape a spoon to have prongs. The world isn't as concrete as you think. That's closed minded.

EDIT: And if you dare fucking start attacking saying "intersex people are X". I'm fucking intersex, asshole. You don't represent us. There's many different types. I can only represent my own type in that regard too.

... It's also fucking wild you think bones have anything to do with sex and gender identity. "My genitals are male, I have no breasts, I work as a male." "YOU'RE STILL A WOMAN! YOUR BONES! YOUR BONES!" ... Fucking stupid. Grasping at straws to attack trans and intersex people at that point.
Legoshi
1 month, 3 weeks ago
SpoonFox blocked me but here's a source
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/pelvis
SpoonFox
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I have a female pelvis. I was born with male genitals. Where do I fall under? Hm? I blocked you. Move on.

As I said, bones don't mean shit. Especially for gender. You're obsessed over this shit. Transphobic bigot.
Legoshi
1 month, 3 weeks ago
SpoonFox actually unblocked me just to respond and block me right after. That's some middle school behavior

I suggest they seek out therapy and work on living a happy life day by day & wish them the best
SpoonFox
1 month, 3 weeks ago
You don't need to unblock people to reply to them, besides, you can't instantly unblocked them, you need to wait time before it unblocks, but apparently you lack the thinking skills to figure that one out too. But it seems the site also changed how the blocking feature worked. It used to be if I replied to you, you would be able to reply even if blocked, at least once. "Some middle school behavior." says the man who seems to have a middle school education on biology and critical thinking skills who thinks someone's bones matter more than the rest of their body. You didn't even answer me on my dilema. Am I a woman for having a woman's pelvis, or am I man because I was born with a penis? You can't answer that, can you? Because I'm living FUCKING PROOF that our logic is wrong. "Go get therapy" you gonna pay for it, asshole? That shit ain't free.

I see what you posted on Kupok's comment too. Fuck off with that victim complex. Exactly how you acted with me, being transphobic and stupid about gender and sex is why people don't want to debate you. They don't want people like you in their circles because you tell them things they don't want to hear, true or not, it's an asshole thing to do. You join the groups to antagonize them, of fucking course they don't want you around.
Legoshi
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Please get the help you so obviously need, SpoonFox. I'm sorry your life isn't going as well as you'd like
Demesejha
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Absolute dogshit attitude and behavior you have. Spoonfox isnt the problem here, youre an antagonistic bigoted asshole.
difl
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Man, i liked ur art too, fuck off dude.
Demesejha
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Absolutely wild when furries are transphobic for no reason as if it will somehow score them brownie points w the guys who want us all dead.

Im in the same boat as you this sucks.
Kupok
1 month, 3 weeks ago
You really gunna throw your hat in with that crowd huh?

You won't like where that path is going to take you. But I feel like at this point there's not much I can say to dissuade you. If you ever in the far future, feel like you're too far gone for forgiveness and can never be accepted by kind people again, you can come to me. Until then though, I wish you luck in finding peace and joy.
Legoshi
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Ah yes, the people that are so kind and accepting so long as you agree with them in every way and don't say or like anything that they don't like

This comment is text book virtue signaling from a high horse
Demesejha
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Dude shut the fuck up transphobe
Demesejha
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Its frustrating seeing a bunch of artists being absolute world-class assholes for literally no reason but they feel emboldened lately i guess. And this site does jack fuck to deal w it sadly. Its unfortunate.
Kupok
1 month, 3 weeks ago
There's reason behind it. And it doesn't do to be blind to those reasons. We may be helpless to those reasons for the moment.

It's hard for some people to hear things like their fantasies are wrong again and again. It becomes easy to internalize the constant feedback of "X and Y is immoral and you're immoral," as a truth. And so "Yes I am immoral and my purpose is to make you angry and there is nothing you can do about it" becomes a defensive personality to adopt. You know, the old hurt people hurt people loop. This is one of those.

Kinda sucks when you like a fantasy that isn't morally popular and go to find communities and materials for it, and those communities are filled with hurt people who've fallen back on just being as hurtful and "Does this make u mad lol?" as possible.
Demesejha
1 month, 3 weeks ago
I thought you were better, but here we are. Grow up dude.
InkTheseNuts
1 month, 2 weeks ago
You used to be cool, now you are just cringe and boring.
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