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A Thought About Moderator Malfeasance

by alistair

Moderators and admins should be forbidden from blocking users. If moderators block a user, and then accusations are made against that user, that user has lost any means of even responding to the accusations.

Moderator blocking is de-facto un-personing, placing the blocked into a sub-class of 'undesirables,' like a caste system. It is evil, and it must be explicitly forbidden.

If this makes life harder for moderators, then tough kitty toenails, that's the god damned job, slimeballs.

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KevinSnowpaw

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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ehhh well to defend the mods a sec here.. there personal accounts, to my knowledge, dont actually HAVE mod powers...they are treated like any other user, maybe I'm wrong on that point but moderator actions have to be done through ink bunnies support system and often through the ink bunny account which does not block users.

if your having problems with a mod that is behaving like a dick, and they have blocked you and are continuing to make accusations I would open a support ticket and have other moderators review the situation.

The mods are at the end of the day volunteers...and there people, so they are capable of being great or being total pieces of shit. I agree that moderations should be held to a higher standard then normal users, but on their personal accounts theres more leeway for that then if they were acting in there capacity as a mod or admin.

whats been going on if I may ask? have you been having explicit problems with a moderator, or is this just something thats gotten under your skin?

the fact that mods DONT just nuke journals like this and ban any user they dont like is standing prof of at least an attempt at fairness...wanna talk about this in DM's or off site? would rather not start MORE drama XD

alistair

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ KevinSnowpaw

The thought is inspired by what appears to be unjust behavior toward another user, but that's irrelevant to the point and I'm not interested in discussing that here.

Even if the personal accounts of moderators don't have direct access to the tools, the people themselves do (even if that 'tool' is just asking an admin to take an action). If a user has delete power over users, it is unethical to allow that user to block anyone. The role of a moderator is something like that of a public servant, and their authority comes with responsibilities.

I assert here that never blocking a user, and gracefully managing the results of that, is one of those responsibilities.

A moderator shouldn't get to say, "I'll only pay attention to certain accounts I like, and all others will always be assumed in violation if someone complains, and I have no responsibility to see for myself." That's not being a moderator, it's being a callous thug.

stickyfox

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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It doesn't surprise me really. You came at me out of nowhere with a bunch of personal insults while I was trying to discuss gender roles with another user here. If you talk to the mods the way you talk to total strangers here, THAT is the reason they blocked you.

alistair

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ stickyfox

The thought has nothing to do with my own situation, sir. Your presumption that I have gotten what I deserved is faulty, because to my knowledge no admin or mod has yet blocked me. I am speaking on principle. Do you know what that means?

stickyfox

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ alistair

I guess nobody really knows what you mean, if you're just postulating about something that might or could have happened. But you didn't have any objection to putting people into castes on that journal (which the mods then deleted btw). If you're speaking on the principle it would make more sense if you agreed with un-personing people on whatever this issue is as well.

They're mods on a furry site. They can do whatever they want, and that's kinda the end of the story. They are being inconsistent. Thats why everyone else is writing journals like this, even if for you it was just a shower thought. One of the mods blocked me too, after that incident where we last chatted; so if it happened to someone you know they're not alone.

alistair

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ stickyfox

"	stickyfox wrote:
	I guess nobody really knows what you mean, if you're just postulating about something that might or could have happened.

Are my words unclear? Mods (of any site) shouldn't ever block people. That is my assertion. Whatever you think prompted my assertion doesn't matter, because it is a statement of principle.

"	But you didn't have any objection to putting people into castes on that journal (which the mods then deleted btw). If you're speaking on the principle it would make more sense if you agreed with un-personing people on whatever this issue is as well.

I have zero idea what you're talking about. Castes? What? Do you have me confused for somebody else?

stickyfox

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ alistair

well, you made a lasting impression on me. and if the mods hadn't deleted it, I'd be able to quote it.

if a mod blocks a user who's just being a nuisance, then I'm ok with it because they're avoiding having their time wasted. moderating is a lot of work. but if a mod is just avoiding a user to selectively apply or enforce the rules then they shouldnt be a mod, because they lack the objectivity needed to do the work.

alistair

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ stickyfox

"	stickyfox wrote:
	well, you made a lasting impression on me. and if the mods hadn't deleted it, I'd be able to quote it.

I consider the concept of caste to be abhorent, so I don't recognize your claim, that I would advocate placing anyone within a caste. Either you misunderstood something I said, or you are being very imprecise with your language, or you are mis-attributing someone else's words onto me.

You're welcome to remind me of what you believe I said, and I will address it; it might help me remember what you're talking about specifically.

stickyfox

2 months, 1 week ago

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@ alistair

well like i said we would not need to retrace our steps if the discussion hadnt been purged from the record... by the mods. but if you dont remember it, what's the point?

The mods here are a big problem. but not because they're blocking users imo. some users are just a nuisance and need to be ignored or just plain banned. IB isn't a public forum or anyones rightful home, just a website like anyone here could make with a few mouse clicks. we dont need to take the mods' bullshit and they dont need to take ours.

there's this illusion of being deplatformed or depersoned because social media has trained us to believe that losing cred on facebook or IB means anything at all. people used to just make another account or go to another site.

at the end of the day this is just "that furry site with all the cub porn and ai on it" and not like, something to get worked up over. plenty of furries avoid this site entirely because its content is offensive to them.

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