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What makes a cub?

Is it their age, their size, their proportions...or being a cub has its origin in the heart?


Maybe cubs....are the real friends we made along the way....
no, wait, i have to google that.
maybe the real cubs are the friends we made along the way.

yes.

the truth is...there's a cub inside all of us. or maybe two. and they're gay...and making out.




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I've been just thinking about all that brought me where I am currently; do you consider me a CUB artist? or just someone who happens to draw cub?

I think for me, it started with the style and the proportions; that's why I started doing it. When it's not a commission where an age is requested or specified, I generally don't care much about the age of the character I'm drawing.

What's your definition of cub art exactly? (and why do you like it now that we're on it) Since the last purge of art from FA I think the definition has shook a little, or at least for me, when I compare how the anime community treats the definition of "loli", there's still the debate of the age against just the body type.

Anyway thanks for reading my dumb poem at the beginning :3
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ArielCelestia
1 week, 2 days ago
I would absolutely consider you a cub artist and that's a good thing. As for the definition. Buy me some tea and I'll get into it at length!
Olly
1 week, 2 days ago
I thought it was based on age, but I get called a cub all the time because Olly is a short little plush bear. Sometimes "cub-sized" is a thing and just gets called "cub." I think it's a cute name to say I guess X3 I draw all kinds of characters of all ages but people call me a cub artist too, so who knows :3
Smolfoks
1 week, 2 days ago
It's all about intention when it comes to art. Artists draw small featureless characters that could easily be considered a child if you used real body/face standards to determine age, but said characters are adults. On the other end of things, I draw cub characters that can pass as adults.

I think people waste too much time and thought trying to humanize pixels and it causes a lot of unnecessary drama as a result >.>
FauxPika
1 week, 2 days ago
It's purely based on whether or not poeple call you a pedo for it.
Etis
1 week, 2 days ago
It entirely depends on how much do you want to virtue signal.
Riggles
1 week, 2 days ago
proportions tbh i think
pretty much just the proportions
also you're a slutty cub 10000% loolololol
PrinceEden
1 week, 2 days ago
I’m a realist - age; because that’s the term
BlyZeraz
1 week, 2 days ago
It's a size or proportion thing for me and most people I've seen. I avoid people that clearly fixate on it from an age perspective cause of obvious reasons. But there are a lot of fantasies enabled by or that can be enhanced when using cub for size. Easier to get into different types of mindsets like being a lil gremlin, but you'll never see me admit that to my friends, or imagine getting manhandled by a character way larger than you. If I were to be a "cub" in some roleplay or pic my character still ultimately represents me, an adult. Thus its still content of adults, for adults, by adults and I can't really see any issue with that.
rp
rp
1 week, 2 days ago
Cub is in eye of beholder.
Maxwinjulie
1 week, 2 days ago
It is a young furry
who is exactly between
2 and 13 years old.
(Snap! Entertainment)
Maxwinjulie
1 week, 2 days ago
I DEDICATE THIS
TO
Khaimera
Khaimera
,
the Halloween birthday boy.
CloudHusky
1 week, 2 days ago
Seconded. 🐈
Maxwinjulie
1 week, 2 days ago
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
Smolotter
1 week, 2 days ago
I'm pretty sure you need to live in Chicago to be a Cubs fan.
EveningFawn
1 week, 2 days ago
I consider you a cub artist myself! As to me its a style of sorts, of small vulnerable characters, sort of like ABDL is style, or aesthetic. And a darn good one! Your art is adorable
JaredTheBunnyBoy
1 week, 2 days ago
I thought it had to do with age, but I shared a picture I received in an art trade that featured an adult character (my sona, who is 24, like me), but was still viewed as "implied cub".
VarraTheVap
1 week, 2 days ago
For me think it's much about the bodyshape... In my mind and fantasies they are usually as intelligent as adults, just more innocent and behaving cute xD So the actual age does not really matter to me.

Think if you draw cub art and also enjoy doing so (not solely doing it for money), you are a cub artist. And if you talk about cubs, like here, you definitely are :P
Springbun
1 week, 2 days ago
Cub Artist.

and don't bother with FA. they had a whole thing against impregnation with one of their Admins based on the logic that "there's a cub there". nuff said.
Nightdancer
1 week, 2 days ago
Don't use that word, because it is too vague, it is just encouraging pigeonhole thinking.
I am very happy that e621 removed it a while ago.
VarraTheVap
1 week, 1 day ago
What do you mean? E621 removed loli art, not cub art and either way not even the tag xD
Nightdancer
1 week, 1 day ago
you are not correct here "xD"
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/6mxrynanaig5v9ut9s56s/ex...
cub => young female, young male, young feral
VarraTheVap
1 week, 1 day ago
Huh, I see. I mean the search for "cub" still works, but I get it...
Bloodhawk
1 week, 2 days ago
In my cookie-made-up world, all my characters' ages are based on animal age with a smaller human age multiplier added to it.

A good example is my bird character is only about 2 years old but can basically walk and talk, My dog cubs are about 5 years old, even though they are biologically the same age as the birb.

But the main thing you asked for is very wishy-washy-artsy-fartsy personal perspective dependant, and in no way whatever I say beyond this point defines if someone is a cub artist or not;
PERSONALLY, >>in my head<< >>not yours or others<< when people draw human hands and feet with extremely realistic proportions with a cat face copy-pasted onto, it stops being cub art.  
Matathesis
1 week, 2 days ago
What makes a cub? Well... when a mummyfur and a daddyfur love each other veeeeerrrrrryyyyy much...
killerman33
1 week, 1 day ago
to me a cub is a distinction between adult and child.

In my stories, there are cubs and there are children. This might take too long to explain so i will keep it as short as possible.

A long time ago, humans used to populate the earth, their greed got to a point of self extinction, or near extinction, time passed, animals gained human traits but some of the practises passed down like how there are herbavours, and carnivors. there are also species who were created through domestication, and those that were natrual born.

the governments went through many wars through history over a number of things including the five kingdoms war and the blood and leaf war and so on.

Zoom to "present day" and you have two laws that are meant to keep house pets and wild folks from harming each other due to a perceived age discrimination and type of racism born from it.

House pets are basicly born with dwarfism except that it is "perfected dwarfism" in that they look like children. They are however fully grown adults.

Wildfolk however have "perfected gigantism" in that they do not suffere from the effects of their size.

This leads many house pets to be unfortunatly mistreated and treated as children.

The collars law thus became an accessory to end the decrimination by allowing housepets and wildfolk to have a perment accessory that lets them get authorities if such treatment happens. this didnt end it, but it numbed it.

Then the tags law, which was more a right of passage into adulthood that can be clearly displayed. people were not happy, blah blah blah, story elements and lore.

In my world, those who enjoyed being treated as children and use their tags to join a website known as "cub hub" which is a porn site for adults who wish to be treated as children. Those adults can even be "Adopted" as if they are real children by wild folks who enjoy taking care of such people. These "pretend children" are called cubs. However becuase they are adults, they are allowed to participate in adult only activities like sex, drinking, and so on.

Kids however are disallowed from adult websites, from watching tv shows, or accessing entire locations of the earth becuase of the perceived "adult nature" of it, and thus wouldnt have access to it until they get their tags. yes there is an ingrained culture of wanting to be an adult becuase of the forbidden nature of what adults are allowed to do.

In my stories, i make sure to keep sexually explicit stuff from those that are actually kids, while allowing cubs to do as they may.

Yes the cubs can interact with kids, at school, or at play grounds or other child friendly location. These places are called "mixed interaction areas"

Worst part is, this is the short version.


lazyness
1 week, 1 day ago
Yeah I would consider you a cub artist

most of the appeal is in the proportions, but part of it is also the taboo and social roles.

On the topic of anime, 1000 year old vampire cubs are still cubs, same with characters that are mentally children that get body swapped or aged up.
nyasukitty
1 week, 1 day ago
A cub is the offspring of predators.

My character is a cub because it's a kitten.
WilsonDLMB
1 week, 1 day ago
cubs = small goofyass creatures
pure poetry
UrbanSaint
1 week, 1 day ago
i'd consider cub to be furry characters that are clearly meant to be a kid/underage with body proportions to clearly match that intent (i.e none of the "she's actually over 18 just smol" workaround excuses lol).

I consider any "cub artist" to be "an artist that happens to draw cub" moreso than calling them a straight up cub artist because calling them just a "cub artist" implies they are somehow incapable of drawing anything else.
mudpaws
1 week ago
um ....their size, their proportions...or being a cub,  what about a small dog like a adult chihuahua compared to a puppy great dane ,,,  one is an adult and the other a persay cub ,,,,,, um big diff .but not the same and

https://youtu.be/0g9gcMoq9u4?si=6_yoSzaCZehAL33Q
GreenFr00g
1 week ago
philosophic ;;;;;;
thecooler
1 week ago
Hmmm I think cub, loli or shota, its Mostly now referred to a "young body type", (its how e621 uses it) more than the mental, age, or behavior, lets be honest they do not in behave as such honestly.

They in many concepts been "maturelised" but keeping the young physical aspects of it, is a body that looks "undeveloped" to fully maturity, one stuck in a childish appearance that's why there is a "Oppai Loli" young like female bodies with mature adult big breasts and "Hung Shotas", young male body with mature penis and genitals in size and all that, there is also some thing called infantilism when an adult body as in a fully grown mature body person behaves and acts maybe even think like a child teen, preteen or young age.

So I do think that the thing they refer to now a days as cubs is just the body looking younger
than a teen. but those are just my ideas on how tags work around this places.
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