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DiegoandFriends

No more Lolisho work (for now anyway).

After the Subscribstar situation and other stuff I've been hearing and seeing, that's it. If I do a human piece, characters are going to have to be an adult. Just doesn't seem like its worth it at this point. I don't mind the content, I don't mind drawing it (in fact I like drawing it), but the way the sites are going down, the subscribstar thing, almost losing my pixiv some time back cause I didn't censor things right, having to off link posts hoping the link isn't taken down, the countless accounts gone and etc.I'm just going to let it go for now.


I'll finish the pieces and commissions I have with those themes in them, but until theirs more safe places to post it, I'm going to retire all my human character for now. All personal pieces I was working on with them will be posted up on my baraag in there current unfinished state.
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Added: 2 months, 2 weeks ago
 
thecooler
2 months, 2 weeks ago
I hear ya there,.. so much for Freedom of expression I guess.
DiegoandFriends
2 months, 2 weeks ago
agreed. you would think since its not real noone would care, but guess not.
Nopast
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Sadly a lot of people seem to care too much about not real things
thecooler
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Yea they can even kill over who's favorite myth story is the best
Humanity sucks!

That's why religion is still a thing
missilver
2 months, 2 weeks ago
I never understood it, theres soo much worse things going on in general and instead of focusing on them we play "morality police" on something that never hurt a soul.
DjijeyHellfire
2 months, 2 weeks ago
It's because you work on a different moral plane than they are, they see themselves morally superior to you so they are always right in their believes, if you want to win you need to discuss things on their moral plane instead of your own because yours will be dismissed.
DireKyre
2 months, 2 weeks ago
They want to feel like they've accomplished something, and combating actual crime and bad things is hard and takes work and time. But slapping down someone 'lower' than them is easy and makes them feel like they won so they can pat themself on the back.

It's the same thing like how some people will police the use of specific words, but never do anything about the underlying reasons why people use those words, they treat a symptom and say "I have solved the problem."
StarRabbit
2 months, 2 weeks ago
I blame the conservative right. Their overuse of terms like 'groomer' has led to a culture of paranoia, over-correction, and policing of anything that seems even close to CSEM.
Mousarchy
2 months, 2 weeks ago
honestly im suprised you lasted as long as you did on there.
Hell its still wild some lolishocub artist still use patreon despite there "if the face looks young enough its CP" spiel,lol.

but I hope we manage to find you a middle ground one day. looking forward to your work all the same.
Etis
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Sadly, it is unlikely. At least in foreseeable future.
Friar
2 months, 2 weeks ago
I hate how puritan things have become in our lifetime.
DuoTheas
2 months, 2 weeks ago
It goes far deeper than all this.
Nudepikachuforlife
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Unable to just post the images on baraag huh... Thats sad
DiegoandFriends
2 months, 2 weeks ago
No I can but with the way things have been I'm just goign to distance myself from making the content all together. I have no issue with it, but when every platform i have besides baraag i have link (and hope said link isn't taken down)or censor lolisho work or have my account suspended, its just not worth it to me anymore.
ArielCelestia
2 months, 2 weeks ago
That is a shame. I think that by yielding like that, you let them win and then they will take more and more new ground from you until there's nothing left.
Arkanos
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Payment processors control the rules. There is no yielding. Processors said "no". They're required for the websites in general.
Arkanos
2 months, 2 weeks ago
The real answer is just to stop monetizing that stuff. Put it on baraag for free when it's not a commission.
DiegoandFriends
2 months, 2 weeks ago
I was thinking that too. Yet with me getting almost all my other accoutns suspended for it, having to censor posts on pixiv or lose my account or link content (and have to worry about links being removed) I just don't want to deal with it anymore.
TigerB
2 months, 2 weeks ago
The good thing is they can be changed to cubs without problems.
Jawbreaker89
2 months, 2 weeks ago
It seems like its gonna get to the point where every artist has to make their own website.
DainenDog
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Unfortunately, Arkanos' answer sums it up well: If the payment processors say no, it's no and that's it, no matter if it's on your personal website or on some other platform.
ArielCelestia
2 months, 2 weeks ago
One ought to consider cryptos. They don't ask what the payment is for and they don't engage in censorship.
KevinSnowpaw
2 months, 2 weeks ago
sucks man...but you do what you gotta DX worlds fucked when a man cant even express artistic freedom.
Fenrir93
2 months, 2 weeks ago
that suck, does that mean your getting rid of your cub art on inkbunny as well?
ArielCelestia
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Are you referring to the recent case where a guy was caught with some AI CP stuff? He got caught because he sent those things to a teen it seems. So his main case is indecent contact with a minor and not generating / drawing artwork with minors from what I understand. Luckily I don't live in the US and I am very happy that our law on artwork that is not real is very lax.
DiegoandFriends
2 months, 2 weeks ago
jesus no. I didnt even know about that case. Yeesh....

No no, at this point i just dont feel like dealing with it anymore. between having to censor stuff on pixv or lose my account, subscribstar, patreon, the DDOS attacks on ATF (a place I was about to make an account and start posting on), and etc. just doesn't feel like its worth it anymore.
ArielCelestia
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Ooops, well I do hope you change your mind. Personally while lolisho content isn't even one percent of my total commissioned art I got the luxury and some spare funds to commission such topics and share it freely with those who are interested. It can be nice not having a financial tether dictate or limit your creativity. Have you considered earning funds via non-'horrible' artworks and then still doing lolisho on the side for the connoisseurs?
DiegoandFriends
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Possibly. I have several lolisho pieces from a anon I'll be working on this month. Not to mention if i really want to split things up I could always make another account/name or something. For now though just want to focus on clearing some things up. After that I'll see how things are and REALLY make choices on what I want to do next.
ArielCelestia
2 months, 2 weeks ago
I'm looking forward to seeing them somewhere. Your art is awesome and is always welcome <3
PilloTheStar
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Another one bites the dust 🫡
axlegear
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Grats on acquiescence.  Might I recommend joining Fur Affinity now that they're re-purging all cub content too, including NSFW and ABDL content?  They've been putting out riots since the mass bans and institution of an AI to auto-flag images for removal and account suspension without staff review.
DiegoandFriends
2 months, 2 weeks ago
I get where your coming from and I don't like any of this. Yet at this point I feel its not worth the headache.

After losing out to FA, Tumblr, pixiv, fanbox, patreon, e621, Rule34, and now SubscribStar I just don't feel like dealing with it anymore. I like Baraag and I will be posting what I have there, but how long is Baraag going to last? When page after page is being taken down or changing TOS to push that kind of content out it Just feels like a lost cause at this point. I honestly feel a bit broken over it all (if that makes any sense).
axlegear
2 months, 2 weeks ago
It's almost as if people are more concerned with money and monetization than their personal beliefs or the functionality of society!
R0XIZ
2 months, 2 weeks ago
well do what you feel is best. But it really sucks, you're a great artist and I wish people would just leave you be.
MajorBigEvil
2 months, 2 weeks ago
There is Atfbooru, it's their primary focus
DiegoandFriends
2 months, 2 weeks ago
I have an account on there actually. then the DDOS attacks hit.... Since then I haven't visited the page. If it's back up cool, but I'm still going to take a step back and see how things go. Just want to focus on the cub stuff (for now) and finishing up commissions.
MajorBigEvil
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Its been up for a few weeks
DiegoandFriends
2 months, 2 weeks ago
nice to hear :)
Mochapup
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Wait, what subscribestar situation?
I'm a bit out of the loop I guess :p  
DiegoandFriends
2 months, 2 weeks ago
they disabled my account for having loli/shota work on it. took down my banner and welcome piece. had to take all the work down before I got my account back live. even then, my account still doesn't come up on they're searches (as well as multiple cub/loli/shota accounts), They wont let me have my banner back, or be able to have a preview piece. Though the account is back active. :)
Mochapup
2 months, 2 weeks ago
huh wow o.o
thought substar was the one subscription site that allowed such.
Though I suppose there has been a crackdown overall on loli/shota stuff, no matter the site?
(very much out of the loop, as I'm not interested in such x3 did catch that e6 had to purge everything related to it last year though)
Perpessio
2 months, 2 weeks ago
When sites start thinking what's best for their advertisers and not for their users, they end up driving their users and viewers away. Having a moral ground to stand on is all well and good, though it's better when you start out with those morals, not just suddenly develop them.
Sorry you've been getting shafted like this.
LemurCatta
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Looks like the puritans are winning.
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