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Gioven

Refraining from posting on here till further notice

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Hello everyone, this is sorta partially my "I'm still around" update as well as a decision that was made in light of recent events concerning moderation on this site.

Yesterday @IBp had his entire account nuked, IP banned and all. From what I believe to be over some unfair bias. We haven't known each other long but he's been nothing but nice and respectful to me, and I feel that's worth more than some likes.

I'm gonna refrain from making this some massive wall of text because let's face it, I'm not someone with enough notoriety, and this will most likely be lost to the void since I'm not very active to begin with. And if this gets me in trouble then so be it, It's genuinely tiring to be constantly walking on eggshells to try and appease those with fragile egos and have too much power on their hands.

I do miss the days where we can disagree with one another and NOT go at each other's throats, but more and more I'm affirmed on my decision on staying to myself more often than not.

But yeah, thank you all to those who like the stuff I commission, you might see stuff from the artists I commission on their pages but as for here that's it for the time being.

Also forgot to mention that I don't know if I'll be posting elsewhere, I primarily used IB here and FA second, and since FA doesn't do cub that's out of the picture too. I suppose if I find another alternative I'll announce it but as of right now only expect to see the stuff I get from the artists I commission on their respective pages.
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Added: 3 months, 1 week ago
 
Hornybunny
3 months, 1 week ago
I hate what this world has become.
JordanusDAchipmunk
3 months, 1 week ago
Where should one find you if not posting here? :)
SparkleShadowpaw
3 months, 1 week ago
When someone says that someone was banned due to some unfair bias, I'm the type to ask what the person actually said.
Orcinus
3 months, 1 week ago
Yep. There are always 3 sides to every story. "yours", "mine", and "the truth".
Farrel
3 months, 1 week ago
From what I saw, he was antagonizing folks that were being upset and vocal over recent events. Personally, I didn't see anything specifically objectionable, argumentative? yes, smug? yes, but nothing on the level of the kinds of comments that were being thrown the other way.

Of course, I've only really been keeping a half an eye open... So perhaps something worse was said, perhaps this was an overstep from the admins, or perhaps it was the shortest path to ceasing the arguments and ruckus... I'm also curious what was the deciding factor, but I'm not sure I want to actually know.

I sincerely hope it'll be a temporary thing, but in this day and age? Who knows... Even if it was an admin overreach, I can't in all honesty blame them, they must be tired of all the shouting and reporting and whatnot.
SparkleShadowpaw
3 months ago
Yep, that DEFINITELY sounds like there's a lot more to it.
GreenReaper
3 months ago
A few members have had specific conditions placed on their continued use of the site as a result of past incidents, the alternative to which is we deny them service.

Think of it as double secret probation. If they break the terms, then they are out. This usually comes as a surprise to others because we don't publicise the original action.

It is hard to get banned from IB as an established user, in part because we can apply more specific remedies. You have to work at it. On the flip side,  such decisions are rarely reversed.
Farrel
3 months ago
Honestly? Yeah, when it comes down to it, if someone's doing something that's making waves, gets asked to stop by the admins and refuses? Yeah... Fair... I've had to make that call myself elsewhere.

A shame, but fair. Thanks for clarifying roughly what happened.
Emenius
3 months ago
It seems a little extreme to completely nuke an account, as if it never existed. As far as I'm aware, even FA doesn't do this (except for one time when Dragoneer did it to someone for a vengeful, petty, and emotionally charged reason). I don't see any reason not to just keep the page up, along with all the art/commissions, but just lock it from being commented on. No one deserves to be completely erased.

I have been aware of all the moderation decisions that have gone on for "controversial users" on here for a while. They act like pricks, they mouth off, they get suspended/banned. Whatever, I don't care. None of them have raised any flags for me, until now.

I'm going to be investigating this incident, and if I find any credible and confirmed evidence of abuse, corruption, or unprofessionalism by anyone on the moderation team, I will be bringing it to light; because I think the users of this site should know what is going on behind closed doors.

I've always respected you for your stance on free speech and what you do to keep this site up and running with the type of content you allow; especially during the lulz.net days. But now, that's starting to waver from what I've seen.
LunarFlare
3 months ago
Having observed the handling of those past incidents as a kindness to the users involved, you have my thanks in holding them to the standards set.



Ryuun
3 months ago
Considering what IBp did and has done, I'm not going to say something like "He had it coming", because that's not only rude, it's incorrect. But he certainly could have done several things better.
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