Bad Year for Cub? by Sloss < Journal | Inkbunny, the Furry Art Community

NeksusCat

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I feel like it's not just cubs, but art community as a whole.
I still find good arts every day, but there's not that many of Great Quality anymore, and the numbers are deminishing.
Either a living conditions are to blame, age, health or other reasons, art community, among other communities, took a significant hit, especially after AI shit storm came about.

But yeah, good cub stuff really took its toll with so many good old artists being forced to leave or disappearing with no trace.
It's pretty sad...

Skoon

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ NeksusCat

Cab stuff aside I think you are either looking in the wrong place, or are having a subjective issue.

There is a ton of fantastic furry art being produced still. It's just mostly being posted on Twitter.

Twitter, fucking, Twitter. Great furry art isn't dying, ART SITES are dying.

NeksusCat

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Skoon

Yeah, that too.
But i meant what I said.
A couple of years ago, you could see over a 1k+ quality arts from good artists, now you've gotta search for a 100 per day.
Many migrated to places that not everyone knows about, closed themselves in Patreon and Subscribestar only, and as much as I'd love to support great artists enmass, I don't have enough money to fully support even 5.

NOVFOX13

4 months, 1 week ago

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@ NeksusCat

They are using mastadon servers there is a lot of pressure coming down.You see the art sites like inkbunny and such hire servers and act as businesses they can be leaned on.

Mastodon servers are run by the individual I also feel the sense of despair like my little world is getting smaller seeing so many artists use mastodon servers of go to bluesky because even twitter is putting pressure on cub and feral/zooey artists.

Not to mention the sheer amount of furs who are doing the judge clod frolo song you cannot dissent or disagree in any way no more and the amount of times I have seen the how to catch a predator meme uploaded by people who have clearly never read their sex laws is beyond belief.

People are just so mercenary these days.

It is not your imagination the controls are starting to come in and life is getting harder and lets face it the ultra liberals that keep these things afloat are being driven into the dirt I have scared away two female social workers with basic furry art that I have sticker bombed to my pc and one feral desktop wallpaper I offered to change three times before she had to see it.

DoubleHelix

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Skoon

"	Skoon wrote:
	Great furry art isn't dying, ART SITES are dying.

Mostly this. That and people posting cub stuff more privately due to how easy it is to have your entire internet presence obliterated if people make the connection between aites. Seen this one happen more and more during the time frame mentioned by sloss. You likely could easily extrapolate the connection lol.

MystBunny

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ DoubleHelix

Usually the connection between cub artists and drama is Twitter. I'm so glad I got insta-banned when I tried to make an account long ago. I have never been so happy with a ban before.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ DoubleHelix

I suppose if I drew "real" art, and also tried to post "cub" art, it would get difficult when that one wrong person finds out.
Luckily, I don't draw "real" art or have friends-

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Skoon

Does Twitter let you post cub?
I'm sure there's a lot of furry art, in fact I'd say my "regular straight" folder for my favorite furry porn is very large and having a great year. It's the cub that I'm feeling isn't quite the same. I can't put "cub stuff aside," flat chest = life-

Skoon

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

Oh lord, no. Twitter is like 80 percent of the problem for almost all content. They hate cub, incest, noncon/rape, size difference, scat; you name it. If it's a fetish that offends somebody; Twitter is a huge part of the driving force behind trying to eliminate it.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ NeksusCat

Yes, I remember that EtherSaga has passed for one, that's one less very good artist drawing it...

TrystinePrasiola

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I haven't been on the scene very long but I already heard of some tragedies that have occurred, including countries cracking down on art with underage characters and making false equivalency arguments. It does affect people's lives and their livelihood. And then there's the court of public opinion still going strong with threats and doxxing. And then deaths occur too. RIP Ethersaga. I want to commission more this coming year so I can help artists who draw cubs do it more and live comfortably. I feel that I'm just a drop in a bucket but every little bit helps.

SSNo5

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ TrystinePrasiola

What happened to Bunnybits really fucking pisses me off. Makes me wanna go 🦍💩.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ TrystinePrasiola

Ah... with stuff like the movie "Cuties", I thought the world got 100% more perverted, but I suppose that's just the USA-
If what I drew could be construed as a crime, then I suppose I may double-take on drawing it too... before posting it anyway-

Jawbreaker89

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I feel loli and cub in general is still being treated as taboo even when it's not based on anyone real.
Inkbunny is like the only true site that doesn't feel the need to attack you over cub art outside art archive places like E621 and too many artists are putting their real life mortals into fiction and not drawing them. It's getting so bad artists have to start investing in their own websites.
I own a handful of cub characters myself, but I can't get them draw the way they are meant to look all the time. It's either too expensive to do all the time or the bases are meant for mainly adults.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Jawbreaker89

I've seen more than one artist get their moraility in the way of what they'd like to draw.
One guy came and went this year, drawing toon-y cubs, including with nude adults, in a positive way, yet they then burned down their account and are gone. I've saved some of their stuff, but things like that frustrates me because it happens so much given the amount of new artists.

xephion

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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its time after covid a lot of people has less money so right now there is less passion drawing and more commission the other issue is people only posting to paysites. but i feel is more like if you like specific type of content thats is not vanilla there is a a lot less of it. like any hardcore themes have been disappearing i blame patreon for this and twitter

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ xephion

Are there pay sites for cub? I would actually consider that if the price was right and the artists were good.
I agree that there is too many "pin-up" drawings and not enough horny men getting some from lil gurls. I'm guilty of that too-
There are some sexy situations that can be drawn with just nudity and no sex, but it does get boring when the drawings are just a nude girl standing there, bored-

xephion

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

well i meant subcriber sites like fanbox and subscribestar.

to be honest people want money like there iss a lot of good cub art but most is behind paywalls for a few month or forever in some cases. is a lot harder to find the art

but i seen a lot of good ones too i thinks is more of perspective of what you like and what been created

Sloss

4 months, 1 week ago

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@ xephion

Oh I see, subscribestar-

TrystinePrasiola

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

Yeah! Let's get more little girl cubs fucking adult male peen!

caramelapples

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ TrystinePrasiola

Amen to that

Sloss

4 months, 1 week ago

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@ caramelapples

Always-

Skoon

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I stopped drawing cub. A lot of artists I know stopped drawing cub. Several cub artists I know went into hiding.

Ever since the internet started treating it like it was real cp, it's basically doomed to a slow death.

Top that with AI replacement and, well... here we are.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Skoon

Didn't you draw the one where the adult pokemon milf had the boi's dick in hand and telling him to wash more down there?
That's too bad if so, and it'll never have a follow up-
If I stick to IB, I don't get too much hate for drawing it, but I suppose that limits my exposure?
I also have some on e621, but I don't read too much into the retarded people who comment there-

Skoon

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

This? - https://inkbunny.net/s/2933087

Oh, that one is still up. Because Percy, the boy, is 18 as far as the greater internet is concerned. wink

I had to ditch all of my much more overtly cub art.

Problem is, I don't do cub as my primary content, and don't want to get pigeon-holed into it. So unfortunately due to the way the modern Censornet works, I am forced to choose between drawing cub on occasion, or literally everything else I do.

So the choice sucked, but was obvious. :(

Addendum: bear in mind I have a very real and important financial reliance on my art too, which ties my paws.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Skoon

That's it!
I have a bit of text when I stream that says "My characters are not real, they're drawn, and are 18+ years old." which I think mocks that whole idea of cartoon characters and their age well.
Since he's 18 years old, I hope to see his 18 year old widdle body getting some attention from big ol' milfy-wilfy-

Skoon

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

Luckily teens, especially male, are easy enough to slip by under the antis and prudes.

Why people care so much about cartoon animal people's ages is beyond me.

SSNo5

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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The saddest news was what happened to Bunnybits. That makes me want to go 🦍💩 on the French government.

God I fucking hate the French government. There's a reason why they had so many failed monarchies and republics.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ SSNo5

Yeah, I love Bunnybits' stuff. And now, they'll not be drawing cub...
That's a good suggestion to me though: I should draw Bunnybits' cub twins doing unspeakable things involving a dick and vagina-

SSNo5

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

Fuck yeah! Fuck the frog government!

hanage1

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I like being who I am. I wish the world had a change of heart </3

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ hanage1

For the art stuff, I certainly agree. I don't expect to be seen as high-art, drawing cubs, but to at least only be seen as a weirdo. That way, people wouldn't feel so bad about drawing it, that they stop-

WizardsTariff

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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Be the change you want to see in the world

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ WizardsTariff

I was that change for 10+ years, but I'm having real-life get the in way recently...
I'll be back whenever, but I'll try to think of ideas to inspire me when I do try to draw. I've tried twice recently in the last month, but I just couldn't draw, or didn't have an idea.

SinjohKaiser

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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Keep up the good work with Eve! You're doing great!

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ SinjohKaiser

One day I'll get drawin' her again-

SinjohKaiser

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

Do you think that maybe you can draw her with my fursona?

Kumakaze

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I've only really noticed it in the last couple months tbh.
Quality always goes down around christmas - I've found a lot of stuff I liked this year.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Kumakaze

Cool-
It's not a big deal, there are still good drawings being made, but my perspective shows me less stuff I like and want to save.
I was comparing 2019 to 2023, including christmas; I still feel like there's less artists and they're making less art (just like me, I'm part of the problem-).

Rougebuddy

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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(Estoy cansado de meter todo lo que digo en un traductor para que me entiendan, así que lo diré así nomas)
En lo personal, no he tenido mucho tiempo ni libertad para dibujar mis cosas, y cada vez que dibujo porno de lolis o cachorros, me siento terriblemente mal despues, practicamente me arrepiento de crear mis trabajos y acabo odiandome a mi mismo, ademas que para navidad, realmente no quiero dibujar absolutamente nada por respeto a la fecha y así prevenir el riesgo que me encuentren en estas cosas

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Rougebuddy

Well, you're not suppose to feel terrible after drawing it-
If you don't want to draw it, that's OK. Did things change, and you were previously OK with it?

Bueno, se supone que no debes sentirte fatal después de dibujarlo.
Si no quieres dibujarlo, está bien. ¿Cambiaron las cosas y antes estabas de acuerdo con eso?

Rougebuddy

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

Honestamente, cuando dibujo algo así, se podría decir que me llega la idea, y me gana el placer, entonces empiezo a dibujar mis cosas, entonces las publico y me siento bien.
Pero hay momentos que me siento fatal y veo mi vida en retrospectiva y termino arrepintiendome
Es como un ciclo de placer y remordimiento, en el que siempre entro
Deseo y hago y me siento bien con ello, pero luego siento deseos de borrar todo, pero luego vuelve a llegarme el impulso y gusto por este arte y vuelvo a dibujar
Es raro...

thirtyeight

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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The internet as a whole is getting increasingly sanitized. Porn and it's creators are getting more and more demonized as puritans are getting louder and more numerous.

As a result, content creators are walking away, its just not worth the harassment.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ thirtyeight

I think more "normal" people are using the internet, including the previous places that were more monopolized by perverts or people that "got" the idea of a free internet.
Now, your boi Jim is seeing stuff he didn't know existed, by being linked to it, and is ready to add to the mob to have things taken down. At least, that's what I think.
The next IB should be on darknet-

caramelapples

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

I miss when internet wasn't so widely used. Internet getting sanitized and having most of the internet's traffic circle around a few social media websites doesn't help at all.

I've seen a resurgence of "old web" by sites like Neocities. I think it'll be necessary for cub artists to host a website where a gallery can be posted without issue.

cryotimberwolf

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I didn't really notice that cub art has been lacking as of late. I still see a lot of good art being produced this year, from old and new creators alike. Not to mention this is the year Zaush went all "mask off" and is openly making cub, and Fuf and Sicmop are still going strong. Though the rising sanitization of the internet by antis and prudes is worrying.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ cryotimberwolf

Fuf and Sicmop are not humans, they are machines that are created to draw. If they actually enjoy drawing all that, especially Sicmop, then they must have the best job in the world. I would get tired of it at some point, because I already get tired of drawing it sometimes-
I get your point, you came with examples, but someone like Ketzio hasn't posted much this year (if teen counts as cub). I don't know where I'm going with this, but for every "rock" artist you mention like Sicmop, we lose a different "rock" artist like Bunnybits.

cryotimberwolf

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

Fair point. But hey, more power to them I suppose. As for Bunnybits, that may change sometime in the future if and when Bunnybits moves out of France to someplace where the rights of drawings aren't an issue, according to a recent journal. Here's hoping...

It could just be a bad year for cub art, who knows, maybe next year will have more?

AAS

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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Is true in part, the problem in part is increased too because of the success of those platforms of paywalling, a lot of artist not show anymore their works if not pay, add to this the actual witch hunt in every social network ot those who can't deference between reality and fiction, added to this the blocking of this content in a lot of sites

I think is not that bad that it looks but is important that the ones (me included) who still can draw try to do our best to continue getting life with our works to this little world n.n

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ AAS

I suppose, I have seen some artists paywall their stuff. I haven't seen too many who do cub, though that may just be my ignorance.
I'm glad to see your drawings; you don't post much, but what you do is always insane quality and makes cub into a real art form-

ArionEquus

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

The reason most artists who draw those sorts of things don't paywal their content is because it's becoming harder and harder to do so. Most pay platforms are banning it, or banning adult content completely. This is the hand of that older generation of people I mentioned in my other comment. Credit card companies don't want to be involved with objectionable subjects like porn.

Mekrokan

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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It is me. I am siphoning off of their talent, absorbing their talent so that one day I shall become the ultimate lolisho/cub artist.

Nah, it's just been a bad year all around.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Mekrokan

I knew it! Fucker~

Mekrokan

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

hehehehe

worldf0x

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I think it's partly the world in general. More artists have to work non-art jobs to make ends meet, and fulltime artists have to either raise their prices or go more mainstream. It's hard to make art when you're struggling to stay afloat.

Not based on any science, just things I've personally witnessed.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ worldf0x

That does make sense actually. My grocery bill has gone up a lot in the last few years, and I do not buy as much as I used to.
If times are worse, then there is less time for cub-

ArionEquus

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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Art itself just isn't as accessible as it has been in the past. Lots of people have taken to using telegram chats, and discord servers for their works because it's easier for them to moderate who has access... for various reasons.

Reason number one, the most pressing concern, is that the internet is filled with roaming attack squads of asshats looking for someone to cancel. And they don't just affect your online presence. There is a legitimate risk that they will attempt to find you in person, and affect your actual life. Get you fired from your job, harass you at home, threaten the people you care about.

Number two. It's harder to make a living these days. People turn to their art for income in some cases. Which means paywalls, or they turn away from art and toward their more conventional jobs because art can't pay the bills.

Number three is partly related to reason number one. The internet is under this sort of puritanical renaissance phase. Where the old people haven't passed out of their positions of power quite yet. While a younger generation of people with their own sense of what is right and what is wrong are coming onto the scene as well. And the internet how it is now is more or less caught in between these two generations that believe people should act in a certain way, and think in a certain way. Neither of these generations, older nor the younger, believe in free thinking, or expression, or creativity, or whatever you wish to call it. They take actions to push creative people out of creative spaces and that results in less artwork as a whole. Especially anything related in any way to topics which they find morally objectionable. Because they don't enjoy it, and it offends them that you do.

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ ArionEquus

That sounds like the ESG / DEI bullcrap; I hate that shit and it's effected everything.
I don't see the 'puritanical' purge anywhere, personally. I can see and post perverted stuff here and there, like I've always done.
Do you have an example? Is it effecting places like social media, which then spills over into places like IB? Is there cross-over from some other place that is effecting things like cub art?
If I posted a clothed but suggestive picture of Eve on social media, and that used to pass but is now a bannable offense, is that an example of what you mean?

ArionEquus

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

It's affects IB by proxy. Drawing is a mood thing. You know this. Being harassed constantly sorta ruins your mood. So while people aren't being harassed on IB itself. They are still being harassed and then they don't draw anymore. It's hard for me to give you a specific example. Because I don't want to post any of that here. But it is mostly a twitter/social media thing. Where people do "call outs" as they call them. Accusing artists of being pedophiles and claiming that drawings are real life and people should go to jail over them. Or "Get help" as they claim.

(This is a side rant about psychology.) Despite the fact that people who do have problems, and do need "help." Don't need to be shamed publicly about it. That helps no one. It's just harassment... And this "help" that they claim these people need often involves having hobbies and coping mechanisms like artwork. Because artwork can be enjoyed in the MOST important of ways. A way that doesn't hurt anyone. Armchair psychology ruined so many lives in the past, and braindead people on social media are still out there advocating for it.

cathedgefire1000

2 weeks, 4 days ago

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@ ArionEquus

i'm curious, what armchair psychology that people are still advocating for is hurting people today?

very true that artwork can be and is most often enjoyed as harmless pleasure, truly shows that there's no legitimate basis for laws against artwork like in france and most of the english-speaking world.

caramelapples

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

On facebook, there's pages ran by furries which their sole purpose is to make "beware" posts for posting cub or feral art. On twitter there's people who you can't know for sure if they're serious or joking about "fictional characters can't consent". Even people just shipping "problematic" character pairings get attacked. People are crazy.

STGDong

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ ArionEquus

These pseudo puritan people are not consistent, I've seen this thing since around 2000s and a big part of these squads like anti-weeb, anti-furry, anti-etc, turned to be the same they were attacking in the first place, at this time you would never know the most kind fur friend you got today, probably was an "extremist" in the past, they group around mobs because they are also afraid to get burn in the fire but it's just that, when they find they cannot be actually hurt or find a way to avoid problems of these people.

For me the worst kind of person it's the hypocritical ones: Some weeks ago there was this "anti" girl that were harassing people, artist or it's stalking them, I did just a little research and I found she's "friend" of them, lurks in their discord servers, and even draw the same things, after others apparently were defending against her, so she created a post saying she was being harassed, "I was joking, lol"

For you Sloss, you just are lucky since you stay on your small community, and you are busy with your rl, and very lucky to not find one of these insane persons who can even simulate being your best friend (sadly I got some of these in my life, rl and online).

Yuhbuh

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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Being canceled over drawings is at an all time high! x_x

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Yuhbuh

How does that happen? I mean, I'm not cancelled. Do I need a social media account with my real name, then I post some non-cub art and people trace it back to my cub art, and then I'm 'cancelled'?
I'm ignorant because I don't do social media-

Yuhbuh

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

You can pretty much get banned for offsite content on twitter. As for the tracing I've heard about discord groups who organize mass flag attacks on nsfw users. I'm just thankful my paypal hasn't been hit yet... many just quit art when their money and livelihoods are jeopardized at this point.

Sparklyblanket

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I almost quit cub art this year (at least publicly) so I haven’t helped in that regard,that being said I still post stuff even if it is at a snails pace lol

I don’t follow that many ppl but at least for me the amount and the quality of cub art has been good so I got nothing to complain about tbh just wish I wasn’t so busy with work at least during this Xmas season 😭

Sloss

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sparklyblanket

Yeah, I'm glad you came back, but I hope you do it because you want to.
If it's still a problem, then you'll eventually stop again, for realz-
I've forgotten, did you stop because of moral issues? Or others seeing your art and 'cancelling' you?

Sparklyblanket

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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@ Sloss

I guess kinda both among other small issues (less so the moral part since idc if I or others draw cub more so moral in the sense of how others morally view cub art) like being very busy and managing this account was taking away from my other social media stuff at least that's how it felt like once I got a lot of attention; you see when I initially made my account it was simply for interacting with cub art and posting my own with no intention of gaining a following basically a fresh art account where I didn't have expectations and could just have fun like I did when I first started posting online.

Fast forward to now and I feel I have expectations again so I can't be sloppy like when I first started out ;w;

Also imma be real I never thought ppl would like Sparkly and Goldy as much as they did since they're so simple and a bit generic so when I saw ppl get legitimately sad at them being possibly being gone forever well it made me feel bad hence why I came back.

Furgundy

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I think it may be a variety of reasons but like some have mentioned before, there isn’t really a centralized location where artists post their works now. And unfortunately, people still wish to use twitter for stuff like this.

I’ll do my part in 24 however.

Sloss

4 months, 1 week ago

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@ Furgundy

Cool, I'd hope IB could be central for cub, maybe mastodon for loli... I still like cub a lot more though-

timelordmarshal

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I have to admit that I missed Ketzio & GBB’s presence for the majority of the year, and yeah, it does seem that there’s a lot more going against artists atm. We can at least carry on as best we can, wherever we can, show the flag so to say, I suppose. :P

evoyager

4 months, 2 weeks ago

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I admit I never took the time to actually look through the art I like and figure out how much of it is Cub or cub related. Admittedly you and soulCentral are probably the two artists I see with the most cup art that I enjoy there's a couple more but you two are the ones that stand out in my memory. Also for a reason that I probably summed up as I'm getting older I find that I tend to enjoy more cutesy cub art then overly sexual these days

Smolfoks

4 months, 1 week ago

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It's deffo been on the decline in recent years and there are a number of things to blame.

Most notably, social media outrage scaring away a tragic amount of good artists. Besides that, things like the state of the world/economy in western countries have mental health in rapid decline and creative output plummets as a result.

Users are generally a lot less social and interactive as they were prior to Twitter era fandom so you get a lot less out of your uploads in that department as well.

On top of all of that, regardless of your opinion on AI art, its a shot to morale for artists and sites like IB are worse off for it's presence.

I hope things loop back around some day. I hope furs stop caring what other furs think in these regards so we can all just go back to being happy degens instead of hiding our sins under a rug and putting on fake faces for one another.

eeveefan

3 months, 2 weeks ago

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i dont get cub commission art anymore nor did i ever draw it. if i did draw cub it was sfw only. cub is a very taboo subject especially in art and people are quick to point fingers at others for drawing cub. if you want to draw it then go ahead, i wont tell you no.
i think because the ai crap popped up its taken a big toll on the art community as a whole. i wont explain how, ill let you figure it out or else ill suffer the endless comments from ai defenders.
but i been seeing plenty of art, some days are slow though, some have alot of uploads. its a mixed bag i guess -w-

DevilKrin

3 months, 2 weeks ago

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I'm still here producing cub stuff and ain't going anywhere. >w>

Browniebag

2 months, 2 weeks ago

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A combination of many things, although the biggest reason directly causes the second. There's been an upward trend these past few years of less people drawing out of fun/pleasure, merely as a source of income. With the advent of AI a lot of these artists saw the writing on the wall and decided to find alternative means to sustain themselves. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, as I feel like we're returning to a time when people drew what they felt like drawing, not what they felt like generated the most cash. Bring back the passion and soul and utter depravity that true creativity fosters, in all its forms.

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