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NekoStar

FA "Final final final FINAL warning"

So they finally found and removed the pic, and gave me a temporary week-long suspension...

"This has resulted in an IMMEDIATE ESCALATION to a 4th Level Offense: You will be Temporarily Suspended for 1 week. This is a FINAL WARNING to cease violating Upload Policy, Section 2.7 - Content Involving Minors. Future violations may result in a PERMANENT BAN."

This is like... my 3rd 'final warning,' I swear. Probably my... 6-7th 'ban.'

What's a guy gotta do to get permabanned??

Like I COULD draw something cleaaaaarly against their TOS, but that's not the point. The point was to draw something that I think getting banned for is ridiculous, and in that regard, I guess I succeeded by getting banned for that pic, but like... cmon already, just do it you cowards. I feel like Arnold in Predator. "Just do it! What are you waiting for?? KILL ME, DO IT NOW!!"

EDIT: For anyone late to the party or forgot what this is about (It's been 6 months, so I get it,) FA made a stupid TOS change to include characters like Gatomon/Eevee as "Cub" and therefore bannable. I thought that was extremely stupid, so I left. Deleted my gallery on FA, and posted a final 'fuck you' pic of Gatomon and Eevee flashing their privates in hopes of getting banned, and to see how long it'd take to get banned from the site. 6 months and 1 week later, they finally banned me, but only temporarily.
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Added: 1 year, 6 months ago
 
UnwaryRook28
1 year, 6 months ago
🤷‍♂️Now, why exactly would anyone actually want to get permabanned from FA? Or any site, for that matter?🤷‍♂️
I’m not really one to make submissions, but there’s things on the site that are definitely worth seeing.
I’d never want to lose my place.
xephion
1 year, 6 months ago
Sorry man that place sucks besides most use twitter fa is not necessary
RIPInkbunny
1 year, 6 months ago
Actually, most don't use Twitter now, it's been burning down faster than FA is, most have moved to Bluesky, Itaku or something similar.
nrgy
1 year, 6 months ago
bluesky is itself a censorious lot - no wonder seeing who made it. I know of artists still on FA that got banned there. that it got ever any traction with furries shows how tech-stupid or naive most are.
That being said, microblogging is awful for art. If I follow someone I wanna see tehir art, not whatever they fav or reblog or whatever. Most artists on twitter, you can open the profile and scroll for a long time to see something actually from them. I prefer FA a thousand times to that. Or, well, IB
ShanaFenix
1 year, 6 months ago
Bluesky is literally worse twitter. All the drawbacks with none of the positives (the "positive" of twitter being its reach).
That being said, FA isn't exactly the place to be either. Sure, functionality wise it's great but that doesn't make its leadership any better.
RIPInkbunny
1 year, 6 months ago
Well, I hadn't seen that but I can definitely see Bluesky turning into it's predecessor in no time. Itaku does seem a bit better but still bans cub stuff. Really do wish there were more sites that allowed cub =w=
NightWolf714
1 year, 6 months ago
I would want to agree with your comment about FA's functionality, but they still have a broken search that seems to search more by description than tags....
Aogami
1 year, 6 months ago
itaku isn't cub friendly either. I was the canary in the coal mine for that particular experiment.
RIPInkbunny
1 year, 6 months ago
Yeah, as I mentioned in a later comment. x3

It would be nice if sites didn't always ban cub.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Aogami ruining it for everyone. ;3
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
You can see any art that's on FA in so many other places. They made stupid choices and I hate tip-toeing around, afraid to post submissions because they may change their rules someday and I may be retroactively in trouble. Not worth my time.

They think certain pokemon/digimon and similar characters count as underage and I think that's stupid, so fuck em.
You can stay there, not saying anyone else has to leave, but to me it's just poor management and I want no part of it.
UnwaryRook28
1 year, 6 months ago
Well, if there’s one important lesson that I’ve learned the hard way from my experience on FA, it’s that some furries are far too toxic, while others are just plain soulless (😉of course, I don’t mean you or anyone else here in the comments😉), but at the same time, the only good furries in the fandom are those that are willing to listen to reason, such as the site’s admins.

But that’s purely my own experience and this is your own decision to make.
🤷‍♂️Who would I be to judge?🤷‍♂️
NightWolf714
1 year, 6 months ago
I'm barely on there, but I once got in trouble many years ago from an admin because when a user was getting around a block to harass me (they blocked me, then kept replying to my comments to send a notification), *I* got in trouble because when I left the room, the mate on his own accord told them to knock it off. Because I supposedly control him and told him to do this. The user doing harassment got shit-all and I just had to wait it out until they got tired.

So, ahhhh, FA does not have a good reputation. Many of us are just there because that's where everyone is. :/ I can say other stories as well, but that's the main one I got.
MyNameIsOver20charac
1 year, 6 months ago
" NekoStar wrote:
You can see any art that's on FA in so many other places [...]

Really? Where? The only reason I have an FA account is the massive pool of content that I can't find anywhere else. Unless you're talking about twitter/x which I refuse to touch.
missilver
1 year, 6 months ago
I mean theres e621, countless booru sites, the variety of rule34 sites and the few sites deep in piracy i wont name. FA content is almost never FA exclusive.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Yeah what missilver said. Any of those sites are a good start. Give me any pic you think is exclusive to FA and I'll find it somewhere else.

As the artist, you either have to be super unknown to be exclusively on FA, or very vigilant about going around the entire internet and hoping site admins care enough to listen to your requests to remove your art from their sites.
NeoShard
1 year, 6 months ago
What kind of pic was this?
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
https://inkbunny.net/s/3027371

Nothing that bad, but after their TOS change, they think certain pokemon/digimon or similar characters count as underage, and I thought that was silly, so I left.
AmaraMcLeod
1 year, 6 months ago
i was wondering when the hammer would drop lol, took them long enough rofl, this whole policy was dumb to begin with, sorry you have to deal with so many stupid things on there
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Nono, I brought this on myself on purpose after all lol (this time.)

Took them 6 months and 1 week to find and act on what they consider to be 'CP.'
Ainoko
1 year, 6 months ago
What was the image?
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Posted it here on IB. Took them 6 months and 1 week to finally act. https://inkbunny.net/s/3027371
PlaneshifterLair
1 year, 6 months ago
Well, I got perma-banned for a 15+ years actually-cub old pic, cropped, and from before their previous rule change, that I forgot was even there as it was a doodle.
They found it somehow and auto-banned me with no warnings at all~

I begged to be let in to solve the issue... and once they did let me in, I wiped my whole gallery cleand and left 'cause no chance in hell I'd let the fuckers ban me and keep my stuff in their page |3
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Pro-gamer move, hell yeah.

That's why I cleared my gallery first before this stunt. v.v
PlaneshifterLair
1 year, 6 months ago
Yeh, this was even before the whole rule change, so I jumped ship way before the mass migration XD
missilver
1 year, 6 months ago
If you want to have their day any worse you can request an entire data wipe too if you live in certain places or in the EU as they are mandated by law to delete all your data and information with legal proof if you need it.
PlaneshifterLair
1 year, 6 months ago
Yeh, no, I don't live in any place that could demand that XD
NightWolf714
1 year, 6 months ago
Beautiful. -chief's kiss-
PlaneshifterLair
1 year, 6 months ago
Thanks, I -am- pretty proud of that XD
nrgy
1 year, 6 months ago
"Smite Me, O Mighty Smiter"
thejediluke
1 year, 6 months ago
"Now, l'm not much for blaspheming, but that last one made me laugh."
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
They didn't smite me hard enough! >=0
Koufun
1 year, 6 months ago
https://wiki.inkbunny.net/wiki/ACP Where i can read that full version of upload policy?
Koufun
1 year, 6 months ago
Oh, they warn you because you're not adding minor keywords/category?
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
No, FurAffinity, not InkBunny.
Koufun
1 year, 6 months ago
Oh, yeah they're seems really against cub drawings, i was thinking to make account in there too before but i didn't do it because of the same reason.
JuliusRabbito
1 year, 6 months ago
this has been going on since like 15 years when they banned many and this site was created, because a  bank back then,
Koufun
1 year, 6 months ago
a bank? i see, i just joined furry fandom around 2 years ago so that's new to me.
JuliusRabbito
1 year, 6 months ago
yeah i am a member and they had back them the server in Canada, not sure if still the same place, but Canada has rules against that content as i was told. and told them they would stop working with FA if they alllwed this, and to cover it, they faked a Hacking of the site,and posted some personal PMS on a wiki leaks site
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Nono, I'm fine with them wanting to avoid having cub content on their site. Their site, their rules.
However they don't know what 'cub' is, and constantly change their rules to fit their definition, which isn't that strict anyway.

Like InkBunny doesn't allow humans in sexual situations. That's fair. We all understand that. Pretty clear.
I was fine with FA's "no cub" rule until they expanded it to include characters like Gatomon/Eevee. That's retarded.
xephion
1 year, 6 months ago
i was never fine with that rule becuase they lied about the reason they wanted to change it. but is their site so i didnt care i just said fuck them. but thsi new one rule for pokemon and digimon and stitch is the biggest shit ever. fuck them sincerely fuck them
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Right, before the change, I was just very selective about what I posted there since I never knew what’d get me a ban anymore, and I thought I was one more strike from perma-ban since they already gave me a “final warning,” but after the change I wanted to just leave.
(But I want them to kick me out cuz it’s more fun this way. :3)
JuliusRabbito
1 year, 6 months ago
ah that is new and worse than retarded
AaronAmethyst
1 year, 6 months ago
I'd say to get banned from FA, you have to not be popular
Wouldn't you know it, you're pretty popular :3
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Zaush was one of the first people they banned from FA after they rolled out the new TOS changes. He's WAY more popular than I am. v.v

(But I appreciate that confidence boost. ;3)
BusterBunny8
1 year, 6 months ago
Remind me why are you trying to get banned?
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
I've been truly done with FA since they said gatomon, some first-form pokemon, and anything cute that can be misconstrued as 'childlike' would be bannable.
My style IS cute, and I refuse to adhere to their bullshit claim that just because something doesn't have DD breasts means it's a child.

They made stupid choices and I hate tip-toeing around, afraid to post submissions because they may change their rules someday and I may be retroactively in trouble. Not worth my time.
NightWolf714
1 year, 6 months ago
Yep. Honestly, I'm largely against it because any rule that could be innocently and completely accidentally broken by someone not having enough skill yet and result in a perma-ban is bullshit.

They kept relying on "no child-like look" without being specific about it. So someone learning anatomy how to how apply and create their personal style can just, accidentally break that rule. They *claim* chibi doesn't count, but let's be real here, some chibis look like cartoon kids.

Vague rules like that can fuck off. It's because they're being scared because of the newest red scare, basically.
BrithanyBabyfur
1 year, 6 months ago
Furaffinity and its absurd bans have always been like this
ThatFurryDude
1 year, 6 months ago
I am surprised they took like 6 months to ban you. If they were very strict, they would have instantly banned you. The way FA banned certain Pokemon just to crack down on cute art is more of a power trip.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Yeah, this was a Gatomon/Eevee pic (found here on IB.)

I posted it specifically to get banned, and the experiment was seeing how long it'd take them to do their jobs and find it. I guarantee is was just another unpaid mod-wannabe who reported it, and then another unpaid admin gave me a temp ban.
JinxMcKenzie
1 year, 6 months ago
oh no... anyway
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
But it wasn't permanent!! Just pull the trigger, you cowards!!
BrithanyBabyfur
1 year, 6 months ago
Furaffinity has always made some mistakes with decisions that led other artists to migrate to other sites due to the danger in which furaffinity took their artists with certain content in their galleries with their new rules they began to delete content and give bans with absurd reasons that do not They led nowhere other than the loss of many of their artists, in fact Furaffinity lost a large part of the babyfur and abdl community along with the pokemon and digimon community who had to move websites and migrate their contents.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
I just hated when they said earlier this year that characters like Gatomon and Eevee would be considered 'cub' so I bounced.
BrithanyBabyfur
1 year, 6 months ago
Yes and now they can only make them adults because if they look like little babies they could get banned.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
But that's my thing: They don't look like a specific age. THAT'S the problem. They don't look like babies to me in the first place.
BrithanyBabyfur
1 year, 6 months ago
Furaffinity is not satisfied with that, that's why we see how they are banning artists for 7 days for absurd reasons.
GratitudeAdvocate
1 year, 6 months ago
Fuck those Fuckaffinity fucktardssssssssssssssss to fucking fucksville, USA. Population: FUCK.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Word.
GratitudeAdvocate
1 year, 6 months ago
🎶Words, words....
Between the lines of age...🎵
AlexanderValentine
1 year, 6 months ago
I'd just say clear your gallery there. FA hasn't been worth it since the early 2000's, when they started creating rifts between groups of furries over the most basic of crap. And if they want to drive away all the people who keep it running, more power to them.

Personally -wish- I could stop using it, but there are a lot of good artists who unfortunately refuse to move. I vaguely remember someone having a proper euphemism for the site. "It's the shitty beer everyone drinks to be cool and popular, but no one actually likes it."
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Oh it was cleared 6 months ago before I tried this stunt, and before that I rarely posted there anyways for YEARS. I've been truly done with FA since they said gatomon, some first-form pokemon, and anything cute that can be misconstrued as 'childlike' would be bannable.
My style IS cute, and I refuse to adhere to their bullshit claim that just because something doesn't have DD breasts means it's a child.

If an artist posts to FA, they post elsewhere, and if t hey DON'T post elsewhere, their art can be FOUND elsewhere. No such thing as exclusive-FA.
AlexanderValentine
1 year, 6 months ago
yeah... I'm just more "we need to stop normalizing FA as a common platform everyone uses." person, I guess.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Agreed with that. So many better sites.
(This one, for example. Even if cub isn't your thing, you can easily avoid it, and the website is just built better. FA feels like it is forever stuck in the early 2000s.)
AlexanderValentine
1 year, 6 months ago
IB is the best site I've seen yet. (seriously. Community Tagging/Blacklisting has made this site perfect, but you still have so many people refusing to use it due to stigma.)

But people will use anything but IB. There's no such thing as a perfect website, and I have some thoughts I'd appreciate (like floating comment bar or an extended reply so you can read what you're replying to, just in case you get lost.) But this is by far the best one.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Yeah those two suggestions are something I've been wanting too. And yeah, IB isn't perfect, like you said no site is, but it's leagues above FA. v.v
moyomongoose
1 year, 6 months ago
Guess Who This Is by moyomongoose
+4
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Caught in 4k
FumblingFoxpaws
1 year, 6 months ago
They love you. They're having a really, really hard time letting you go. 🤗
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Too clingy!! >=0
SenGrisane
1 year, 6 months ago
You'll get a 1 month ban and then perma ban.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
But like... it's my 6th or 7th ban. I had a month-long ban already at SOME point, and multiple "Final warnings."
SenGrisane
1 year, 6 months ago
Weird. They must have disliked me extra hard then.

Maybe they didn't like my journal saying fa is shit and stopping uploading.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Maybe. I've been hating on them openly for years lol
max201451
1 year, 6 months ago
ok, I won't lie I just find this funny.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
The ineptitude is both hilarious and sad lol
Acehole
1 year, 6 months ago
Given the stuff Neer is into as well as covering for staff that were rapists using FA to stalk women, zoo's and defending MAP's on FA I really wouldn't pay any attention to anything that comes out of FA.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
They got me chasing the high of a perma-ban! I need my perma-ban FIX!! >=0
Acehole
1 year, 6 months ago
I've known people get banned for reporting FA to the authorities. Making fun of Neer for losing his wife to an admin after he sold the site. Not agreeing with admin. People have gotten banned just for being attacked by a friend of a admin. Because they won't draw free art for admin. Neer and his friends have banned people from FA because Neer and his friends got banned from the Furfright con due to bad behaviour and these people told the truth about what happened rather the lies Neer and his friends made up. He's even banned people who worked on the staff at other cons as Neer isn't welcome at any of them anymore. Neer even banned one person who made it public Neer and his then Wife had been embezzling FA funds for a while and bought a brand new car with funds that were only meant to be used on the site. They had done that trick a few times to the tune of 30K.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Man, i'm just tryna get banned for drawing eevee and gatomon porn. v.v
Acehole
1 year, 6 months ago
That might take a while. Funny as both characters are without age.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Took 6 months for them to notice this other pic. Maybe we can set a new record.

And yeah I know, that's why it's silly and I left. :) You can breed eevees and other 'first-form pokemon' in the game. Does that mean the games are full of daycares that force underage cub pokemon to breed and produce offspring? That's way more fucked up imo.
kshrike
1 year, 6 months ago
It took then this long, huh?
Maybe flooding the site with base stage pron could prove an effective way to show how powerless FA staff is
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Nah... one more should do it... maybe.

...probably...
AlexanderValentine
1 year, 6 months ago
NGL, if you're gonna do something like that... build an army of disgruntled furries. X3
kshrike
1 year, 6 months ago
"If the mods can't keep up the site will fall"
"Even if the site is spammed it would take a number beyond reckoning, thousands to spam the site."
"Tens of thousands."
"But my lord, there is no such force"
AlexanderValentine
1 year, 6 months ago
Just sneak into FA's data center with magnets :D
aden10
1 year, 6 months ago
What's a guy gotta do to get permabanned??
Show having common sense.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
...Are you saying having common sense gets people permabanned?

Cuz if so, I would've gotten banned a long time ago. D:
aden10
1 year, 6 months ago
Nobody will ban you for common sense if you don't show it.
" NekoStar wrote:
...Are you saying having common sense gets people permabanned?

Cuz if so, I would've gotten banned a long time ago. D:
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
....Sure, i'll bite.

Please elaborate. How am I not showing common sense, and how can showing more common sense get me banned?

You know i'm TRYING to get banned... right?
aden10
1 year, 6 months ago
Express doubt Ukraine are good guys. You'll be deleted immediately.
NekoStar
1 year, 6 months ago
Lol oh there’s plenty of ways to get banned, i’n just trying to do it by drawing characters that shouldn’t be considered “cub.”
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