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ChocolateKitsune

Patreon's "Thing" Was a Long Time Coming

I know this post sounds like "I Told You So," and frankly, yeah. I did. But that's not the point I want to make here. That won't help those of us suffering right now.

[Context: Patreon spent their day today banning many kink creators, primarily ABDL focused ones, and don't show any signs of stopping.]

The fact of the matter is that normies see anything ABDL adjacent as being tantamount to grooming, courting minors, or anything else around that core concept and they would sooner see it all gone than even bother spending the time effort to understand any kind of nuance about it.

"Das icky ew so bad" is literally as far as these people will engage with what frankly makes us tick, deep down. While we can coexist with them as people Within a Society, there is something fundamental about most of us in this very community that many outside of it would sooner actively see to it that it gets eradicated, than they would let us do our own thing - no matter where that may be.

The sooner we fucking realize that this is also something every one of us who dislikes someone else's fetish is participating in - and stop that fucking shit pronto - then the sooner we can waste less of our time fighting each other over stupid shit, and get back to working on having nicer things for ourselves again.

There's a lot to be discussed about fetish art and what could or might not be permissible, but that's neither here nor there right now, and I'm not going to delve into it. Seriously just miss me with the whataboutisms; the people who got summarily booted off a platform that was paying their bills

Weren't. Fucking. Hurting. Anybody.

And hey. If you're reading this thinking to yourself "well ABDL is different" then firstly, fuck you. Secondly, replace every mention of ABDL with your favourite fetish and I can promise you that it can and would apply just the same once those managing these platforms cotton on to what it does for you too. As it just so happens, they've also been banning vore artists, and I got targeted fucking years ago for being into hypnosis.

Please get the fuck over yourselves - all of you, and especially those currently engaging in discourse about the content of those artists currently looking at a few months of being effectively DESTITUTE - and gather some fucking compassion and selflessness for those stuck in the same fight as you, and are just trying to make others like you a little happier.

Also, please start learning some basic web management skills for christ's sake, cause our safe spaces are getting further and further eroded every goddamn day, and I can put money on it quickly becoming an essential tool for all of us real fucking soon.

Ask me how I know.
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Added: 11 months, 2 weeks ago
 
Smolfoks
11 months, 2 weeks ago
Patreon sucks and I hear subscribestar is better
ChocolateKitsune
11 months, 2 weeks ago
It has been for a while now. Hopefully folks can pick up where they left off before very long.
Starshell
11 months, 2 weeks ago
I've also been telling people this was coming for years, and I must admit to the tiniest spark of frustrated schadenfreude at many of the people now suddenly upset that their thing was finally targeted. After years of seeing furry solidarity erode into a shooting circle of witch hunts and AUP changes, I can only hope that this wakes a few more people up to the real fragility of our communities in this increasingly authoritarian age.

We can still build safe, inclusive community spaces, but we need to build them, and we need to make them safe and inclusive. The fandom has spent years now running away from community-hosted platforms and towards corporate-run social media and trying to punish other furries over art or stories or hot takes that they see as 'problematic'. Too many furries, old and new, have learned to be judgemental rather than accepting, sanctimonious rather than supportive, and passive consumers rather then active supporters of the fandom. The oldschool fandom, the one where all those weird kinks and sexualities and attitudes coexisted in relative harmony for literally decades is still there, but I fear for its future if furries continue to turn away from solidarity and community-run spaces for the sake of convenience and whatever twisted notion of propriety they've discovered. Either we make a change, now, or we will end up with a bowdlerized fandom that offers little value to anyone except advertisers.

I appreciate the guidance you provided to artists in both this and your other journal post. I believe it's our collective responsibility to support each other, accept our diversity, and Keep Furry Weird.
ChocolateKitsune
11 months, 2 weeks ago
In a weird sort of poetic foreshadowing, the first thing I wrote that same morning was a comment on a post related to - of all things - archiving furry banner ads.

https://cohost.org/lavenderskies/post/3672952-on-furry-...

I'd like you to take a guess as to what it was about before going there to see, cause I can bet money that you won't know where it went to in 3 short comments.

We've got so much going for ourselves nowadays and yet it all goes to fucking pot because everyone's too busy being squicked by other people's vices just existing on the same fucking platform. I wish we'd get the fuck over ourselves already and get with banding together to do better for all of us, cause we're all suffering for it, and the hurting ain't gonna stop any time soon.
Starshell
11 months, 1 week ago
Ahhhh I can say I sure wasn't expecting the drop there. The 'evil version of furry ad culture' quip did amuse me, although I wonder if furry ads are a little less perfectly unique in their awkward quirkiness and more one of the sole remaining expressions of traditional internet ad culture, back from the age of forums. I'd comment on the Cohost post but I disabled my account after they decided to make their very own shitty AUP drama.

Anyway, thinking about it the day after I realized that I wrote a lot of invective but didn't offer any calls to concrete action. I'm sure that you (Choco) are familiar, but for others who might scroll through this post and are looking for good alternative platforms I'd like to promote https://Itaku.ee (not cub-friendly, but moderation standards similar to FA pre-2015, and postybirb support) and https://furtastic.art/ (cub friendly, still in early alpha, supports writing as a first-class citizen) as independent furry-run platforms you might want to join in addition to Inkbunny. Redundancy is important!
ChocolateKitsune
11 months, 1 week ago
I've got my fair share: https://the.choco.one

But I'll keep them in mind if I decide to move from one of them elsewhere.
Smolfoks
11 months, 2 weeks ago
Very well said. This is the kind of thinking we need to get things back on track uwu
Goldy
11 months, 2 weeks ago
Thank you for writing this.
ChocolateKitsune
11 months, 2 weeks ago
You're welcome. It had been on my mind for a while now, but this was the last straw.
ashtarat
11 months, 1 week ago
It hurts when I see infighting among furries over fetishes. As an ageing furry, it feels like there was less "judginess" among furries back when simply "Being Furry" was publicly scandalous in and of itself. And now the fandom has gentrified enough that corporate bodies like Patreon feel comfortable taking "Furry dollars", but only as long as you're the 'right' kind of Furry.

It's scandalous. It's absurd. And like you (and others), I knew it was coming. For "First they came for the hypno stuff, and I did not speak out because it wasn't really my kink." Ferals and more zoophilic animal shapes were another easy target now targeted in some platforms more than others.

It's a slippery slope. The next obvious argument is to claim that ageplay of all kinds is bad, even if there are no 'cubs' involved, because the mere insinuation of "acting an inappropriate age" will be seen as 'problematic'. And then after that -- the purists will want other things purged. Diapers, bottles, childish colors or clothing -- anything other than the most normal, boring, heteronormative shit. Because anything else would be seen as 'degenerate'.

You can blame a lot of things. Social media, late-stage capitalism, social influencers, etc. -- but I think if you get to the earliest roots of where it all started to go wrong, you have to point a finger at the Con chairpeople of the big cons of the early 2000s. Anthrocon, Confurence, Rainfurrest, and so on. They were the first to start the "gentrification-ball" rolling, pushing this idea that Furry needed a squeakier-clean, family-friendly image. Not for the sake of the community, but because they wanted to sell more convention tickets. Thus, the root of all evil finds purchase.
JackDesert
7 months, 1 week ago
First they came for the cub artists... I spoke not because that was a bother to me
Then they came for the pseudorape art and I didn't speak up because rape is bad.
Then they came for the Diaper lovers and I didn't say a word because I found it icky
.... then they came for my cuck art.... and there was nobody left to speak for me.
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