WHAT - THE - F***ING - F*** - TWITTER???? by asthexiancal < Journal

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Netreek

1 year, 6 months ago

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That is Twitter.

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ Netreek

This is extremely concerning. As I just replied them:

The way you told me things, I don't see if the problem lies within your system or my account, as told in those two following sentences:

First sentence
"We have systems that find and remove automated spam Twitter accounts, and it looks like yours was flagged as spam by mistake"
--> how can an inactive account get flagged as spam account, when it's exactly the opposite behavior???????????

Second sentence
"This can happen if an account exhibits automated behavior in violation of our rules."
--> This is a LOT more concerning, this would mean there is something or someone who was actively doing actions with my account without my knowledge/consent. This is where I would require further explanation and maybe logs from you if that did occur. If it's somebody, I'd like to know what did he do, when, and if possible, how he got hold of my account. But if it's something, the problem is extremely serious, and in complete violation of the RGPD principles...........................

Killereye

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

"We have systems that find and remove automated spam Twitter accounts, and it looks like yours was flagged as spam by mistake"

Maybe this is a reference on your inactive account seemingly appearing as created by a bot. Created but not used, and may be used for whenever the time is right. Twatter might have pre-judge such created-but-not-used accounts as possible hacker accounts, created by bot...thus spam account.

"This can happen if an account exhibits automated behavior in violation of our rules."

Same as the first reason. The account was created by a bot (and not by you...lol) but not used yet. Hacker/Spam Account confirmed. No activity on it needed, because the simple act of existing-without-activity/reason IS suspicions activity!

If this is as I wrote above...Twatter is a silly place. Glad to have it avoided for my entire life...just as Tik Tok, and the rest of the major social sites. Tumblr was great before the Great Porn Purge, then it went dead/boring too.

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ Killereye

Yes, I was indeed wondering such a thing myself, nice thinking!

Killereye

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

Wording/Phrasing/wordplay is confusing. One of my own weapons as an Evil Black Dragoness.

But irl...things do get sometimes very confusing, and as an office worker, I tend to do second and third readings of new orders and papers and even consult others to make sure we are thinking the same about it, and that we all understood it. I am trained to analyze corporation stuff like this. Not an expert, just above normal human level really...

And with that said, I am just too speculating here. It may be smarter or dumber...Results what counts here, so get back your account! ~☺

Netreek

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

There is a company called Massengeschmack. They got banned, because being minor. So the owner of the COMPANY did sent them a copy and letter and everything they wanted to show "No, I am not a minor." and Twitter then said something like "Don't use the information of your parents, that is a violation." Like I said, the owner himself did write to Twitter to open the account again, since he definatly is not a minor. He is like my age. And I saw his company grow from the start, like his first Videos on youtube and how he got his own website and his own production company. This guy is definatly not a minor. But on Twitter, he is in a loop. I think he allready called a lawyer because of Twitters stupidity.

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ Netreek

Ha ha ha, that's...... I'm just speechless.

Netreek

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

Told you. That is Twitter.

Gilbhart

1 year, 6 months ago

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That is pretty messed up... O.o'

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ Gilbhart

Totally!!

Killereye

1 year, 6 months ago

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I had the same-ish (and very BAD) experience with my copy of Diablo III.

I left my account on hiatus, because doing the same thing over and over was very repetitive, and I took a half-year long vacation from the game. Half year latter, I try to log in, and my Battle.net account was closed. I asked Blizzard-Activision Support why was it locked, and they answered, that I was inactive for too long, and they have closed my account to protect it. I asked them to open it. Not so simple! They told me to give them ALL my IRL info with phone number and all. I wasn't okay with that, since Blizzard-Activision had trouble keeping personal info secret, and had leaks before. They offered another solution:

I should buy an Authenticatior from them...for even more money and postal address so it can be posted. Yeah, I bought the game, and they close it off from me, so I should give them more money again?

After 2 days of trying to find a solution, one UNORTHODOX solution was found: I had to delete the Blizzard Launcher.exe and then run Diablo III. This forced the game to download the Launcher.exe again, and ask for my pre-set data, and low and behold, I set my security question to my first dog's name. Answered correctly, and my Battle.net account was open FOR FREE.

So yeah, this is why I don't support DRM/Always Online games, as well as games, which are in need of a server, and doesn't have offline mode for me to enjoy forever-on, if I paid for it. One day, the server will be gone, and the game will die/be useless. Diablo II is far superior in this regard. You can mod it, you can cheat, you can play it whenever, even if Blizzard-Activision blows up and most importantly, the full game can be enjoyed OFFLINE, and no automated AI or moderators will close the game off from your usage. Bought it and can enjoy however, whenever I want it.

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ Killereye

You really had some great thinking process here - that's what my aunts say when they are calling me for help, for people like them who are litteraly forced to use the net even for basic administrative tasks, imagine the wall of complexity they are faced with when something goes wrong, the tiniest problem that's nothing to us completely block them!

Killereye

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

Yeah, my parents are like that too. They are living hours on Farcebook, but if they encounter the ugly side of it, they are messaging me what to do. Advert/popup says "Your phone is infected by 127 potentially malicious threats. Get these security risks fixed!" Of course it's a false advert to download unneeded antivirus/spyware. Told them to ignore it. Every week, something new. I hate FB! One idiot gets hacked or a virus/whatever and infects practically everyone else on their buddy list. T_T

And my father encountered his first griefer. Father answered a blog about potentially dangerous migrants and got the not so pretty "Shut your mouth you ***************!" He asked me why did somebody wrote this. I told them "No clue! Just pretend it didn't happen. Block/Bann and move along!" *sigh* Such fun!

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ Killereye

The more I think about it, the less I understand how we manage to avoid most of those problems. I mean, yes, many of us just grew with it, we have a lot of experience, but it's such a JUNGLE!! With new, unforeseen dangers every week...
The brain is such an amazing thing when it works right~

Killereye

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

I am just feeling all too warm, when I discover any threat easily and early, and avoid it. Makes me think, that I am smart and not so easy to fool... ~☺

Zippo

1 year, 6 months ago

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yeah I block twatter and its sub domains at the router level, no way im letting that tracking trash into my networks. Same for ticktak, fuckbook, instacrap. no "social media" plz, thx. :]

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ Zippo

My personal friends don't understand why I'm not on these either - I am positively surprised to hear you've done this yourself!! :-D

ScottySkunk

1 year, 6 months ago

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Twitter is filth

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ ScottySkunk

No hesitation on that question.

MildlyBushy

1 year, 6 months ago

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Everyone: Thats Twitter.
Me: Thats Musk. May he drop dead.

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ MildlyBushy

Musk only added his own little layer on what he bought, Twitter was obviously already a waste far before his move

MildlyBushy

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

Sure but I get good content there daily while on sites like Paheal there's mostly trash drawn by toddlers or repetative AI content created by idiots who can't tag properly.

LordFoxhole

1 year, 6 months ago

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Tu as un compte Twitter ouvert à l'insu de ton plein gré ?

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ LordFoxhole

Je crois me souvenir d'un jour où je me suis trompé de navigateur et n'arrivait pas à ouvrir le compte Twitter que je possède réellement, et qui me sert juste à suivre des personnalités japonaises de l'animation : j'ai alors tenté en vain de l'ouvrir avant de réaliser mon erreur. Mais je ne me souviens en AUCUNE manière en avoir créé un nouveau - je veux dire, quand tu crée un compte quelque part pour quoi que ce soit, normalement tu as des questions à répondre, des informations à donner, non ? Ça m'aurait fait bouger un neurone quand même !!

LordFoxhole

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

Bah, depuis quelques années, j'ai l'impression que les choses vont de mal en pis sur Internet... Des trucs qui marchaient très bien et simplement deviennent compliqués à utiliser. Et, d'un autre côté, dans les sites, il y a des trucs qui apparaissent, disparaissent, se modifient sans que tu comprennes pourquoi... C'est le cas avec Twitter, et j'essaie même plus de comprendre comment ça fonctionne.
Les administrateurs laissent les robots faire le ménage et la police, et puis tu t'étonnes qu'on en arrive à des résultats aberrants.

TaiWolfCreations

1 year, 6 months ago

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Unfortunately that is just twitter, sorry that happened to yew

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ TaiWolfCreations

The worse in that story is that I am now worrying about the behavior of a system I completely don't care about... o.0

ThaPig

1 year, 6 months ago

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Yeah, that's probably an automated thing because people create fake accounts just to spam, so if you create an account and don't post, the system could interpret it's one of those. Curiously it has not happened to me, who created a Twitter account years ago, and stopped using it after seeing how much crap I kept getting.
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asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ ThaPig

Perhaps because you did use it at some point in the beginning, contrary to what happened to me here? All this is WEIRD anyway, and the problem is, their communication is even weirder!

ThaPig

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

Most probably both the cause of the problem and their message apologizing for it were entirely automated things that involved no human intervention.
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asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ ThaPig

I believe indeed they won't make a personalized answer to every of their probably 1.000+ (10.000+?) emails they receive each day...........

Rana

1 year, 6 months ago

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Another "Twitter is randomly banning accounts" bug? Or not a bug and its just Twitter being a bitch once again?

Well, these days you cant expect less from Twitter...

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ Rana

Yes and yes and yes I'd say.............

Rana

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

Classic...

Alondro77

1 year, 6 months ago

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In 2032, after the nuclear war, the 12 survivors will all gather around their feeble flickering fire in the frigid cold and unanimously agree that social media was a terrible mistake.

;D

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ Alondro77

Unleashing both human stupidity and AI control at the same time, when just one of these is enough to bring down entire civilizations, is certainly an.... "Interesting experience".

Alondro77

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

"May you live in interesting times".... the most dreaded curse ever uttered. ;D

ArionEquus

1 year, 6 months ago

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Honestly... this is sorta normal. Youtube/google, pretty much anyone who has ever attempted to introduce automated moderation will have a LOT of false flags until they turn down the system to a reasonable level.

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ ArionEquus

I agree with that, no system is perfect from the beginning. However, Twitter is certainly not a new system, so normally with years and years of experience the programs are upgraded to be better with each problem encountered, right? Don't tell me I am the VERY FIRST, or even just the tenth user to whom such a thing happened..................

PandaMouse

1 year, 6 months ago

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This is a really Jank year! ^v^ What's next? Heeehe! Thank goodness things got fix fast! ^v^

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ PandaMouse

I was indeed extremely surprised by their almost immediate answer. Surprised to the point of being suspicious if my case has really been reviewed by an actual human.......
LOL when an answer takes days to come the customers are unhappy, and when it comes immediatly they are too!!! X-D

Waccoon

1 year, 6 months ago

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Everything is fully automated and uses "machine learning" to make up the rules as it goes. Most of these companies have no idea how their own systems work. Even the appeals process is fully automated, so no person was involved in unlocking your account.

People think I'm crazy for not using Twitter, Discord, owning a smartphone, never using 2FA...

I spent almost 30 years of my life programming, and now I don't even want to touch a computer anymore. I hate what this industry has becomes, and it's why I only hang out on sites like Inkbunny.

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ Waccoon

HA!! You just confirmed what I told Pandafox above........

So, you are the second person telling me on this journal he's not using any social media (and it goes even further in your case I see - I too don't have any of those modern phones), I'm impressed... And feel less alone LOL

evoyager

1 year, 6 months ago

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I avoid Twitter like it's a plague. Ignore Instagram despite the fact that I hear is not so bad I simply have no reason to create or use Instagram accounts. For Facebook I have no interest. Honestly sites like ink bunny and F A are probably the closest I get to dealing with social media. Oh and you too I'm on YouTube at least 30 hours a week mostly listening to audiobooks and podcast

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ evoyager

Youtube is indeed one of the sites I check the most for scientific shows~

1 year, 6 months ago

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Not knowing anything about twitter I guess new accounts not used at all for months may be locked for possibility of being part of spammer throwaway account stock just by simple rule. And it's likely easier to automatically unlock 100 accounts as owners complain than clean up the fallout from one actual spam account.

asthexiancal

1 year, 6 months ago

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@ rp

Quite logical when put that way~

fripck

1 year, 3 months ago

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That’s elongated frick musk for you and us…

asthexiancal

1 year, 3 months ago

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@ fripck

Yes...

fripck

1 year, 3 months ago

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@ asthexiancal

He ruins everything and wants more money, even though he’s already fricking rich!!!!

asthexiancal

1 year, 3 months ago

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@ fripck

Well you know, I'm not sure here, it's vbecause he is so rich that I have that idea Twitter is his little toy, his experiment corner and he is going to test some of his ideas without any concern about profit or rentability or any economic view whatsoever, which I think is even more concerning, not just about the future of twitter, but about his own real goals............

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