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PeachClover

Please Stop Asking for Money

I've been away from IB for a while, and letting myself fret over the submissions that are building up and inevitably being deleted from my new submissions page as they pass, so I came on today by accidentally clicking a link, and thought to myself, well ok, maybe I'll deal with some of these notices first.  That's when I realized what has been keeping me away.

Every notice from the top as I scroll down, save one, was begging for money.  Normally, I would feel stressed, helpless, and upset at how broke I am, but in the past few weeks I've discovered there is a group of young (18-20) Furries in the area, and they are doing the same thing.  I'm tired of this.  Most of the people I follow, I follow because they are artists who are using their art as a form of income, so why is it that too often I see crowdfunding for things that theses artists could do if they had basic money management skills?

Somebody's car broke down.  Well, yes, that happens to everyone eventually, but where is the car owner's emergency fund?  Why are artists begging their customers for money instead of their relatives?  Or better yet, why aren't artists working to sell more art at discounted prices (not inflated prices) to attract more buyers to cover that cost and/or build an emergency fund?  Why is it that I could swear I have seen some artists only open commissions at all when they were desperate for money?  Did you know that in all of the years that I have been on IB, only one time ever have I encountered a journal post where an artist stated that he could not make money by doing art because his wrist was injured?  That guy, didn't ask for money; he just wanted everyone to know why he was on hiatus.

One time a mentally handicapped person admitted to asking for money then buying the equivalent of toys for himself and when the backlash came in for that, he said he "that was different" because the money he used to buy the thing was from a different fund... Sometimes I think that people who are asking for money are doing the same, but keep enough mental distance to not think about the fact that they do actually have access to other forms of money.  For instance, I don't remember ever seeing a journal about artists having to upload from a Wendy's Wi-Fi because they had to cut the internet bill to make rent after needing to spend their savings on a replacement tire because they need the car for their day job.

World, I am poor, and I am tired of these guilt trippy cash grabs that harp through my notices like squawking baby birds.  And I am actually angry, because these artists who beg for money have lots of things I don't.  With their ability to make art, they can easily and quickly convey their interests to the world, attracting lots of friends with shared interests.  On top of that, their art is a way to earn money and even receive special favors in the community.  It is very difficult for me to have sympathy for someone who seems to not only have more than me in their "time of need" but who has had more than me in their entire lifetime even accounting for whatever loss has driven them to beg for money.
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Added: 4 years, 7 months ago
 
TwoTails
4 years, 7 months ago
Ehh.. the comfort of not being screwed.
Yes I'm sure some don't really need the help, but a bit of investigating might point out whom (like those playing tons of brand new games while supposed emergencies).
However, right now, the world sucks. Prices on stuff have been going up, pay not so much.
People have been putting off replacing things because budgets get tighter, that inevitably blows up in everybodies face.
You don't have to help people much (aside from a bit of social responsibility, yanno like not ignoring someone screaming for help on a street,etc), and anybody whom does should assume it's like a business investment - might work, might fail.
PeachClover
4 years, 7 months ago
Are you taking commissions?  Your page doesn't say either way.
TwoTails
4 years, 7 months ago
Not right now because a bit overloaded on that & new PC isn't quite working right yet.
I wasn't hinting/asking, I mean I'm not doing so well but a good chunk of my probs cant be solved with money, increasing lack of available quality foods & services around here (like US docs just throw questionable pills at everything rather than effective treatments) are examples of why things are not so good.
I was just saying try not to give in to cynicism too much, civilization depends on people helping each other but not to the point of burning out.
PeachClover
4 years, 7 months ago
Please post your prices so that I can start saving for when you do open your commissions.  It's is my belief that many artists lose customers because of inconsistent commission schedules and lack of posted prices.  People like me, being poor and probably many, want to have a solid idea of how long we need to save in order to buy a commission so that we don't contact an artist only to discover we don't have enough to pay.  This isn't merely a matter of personal embarrassment, but some artists will basically block people who don't have enough at the time they are commissioned because said artists are impatient.  This troublesome happenstance robs artists of business that they often deserve.
TwoTails
4 years, 7 months ago
I don't know how to go about that, things dont let me schedule much.
Besides it's always varied, from free to about 150 max, aside from some HD YCH's I was trying to do.
And I preferred the days when I could do these for free, having to prioritize bigger payoffs kills the fun -_-
Sorta why I wish people would actually use stuff like patreon for it's original purpose - a tipjar to buy artists spare time to do their thing.
PeachClover
4 years, 7 months ago
This comment sounds so wishywashy in comparison to your first comment, and I don't think you realize it.  If you don't set your prices, people can't buy your art, but you also talk about drawing for free.  If you want to make art for free, why do you voice a complaint when my journal was about professional artists (who art for a living) asking for money when they could be selling art to earn the money they need?

I sometimes think Patreon has lead some people to believe that they can do only what they want to do and other people will just rain down money upon them for it, but I want to clarify that I have never paid an artist to do what they want to do.  In fact, almost every time, I draw out a sketch of what I want to see in the final picture, so really I am paying artists to render my visions in their styles.
squeakybunny
4 years, 7 months ago
I don't give money very often.  Instead I find places where they can get the help they need or show them how to navigate through the paperwork and dealing with bureaucracies.
eeveefan
4 years, 7 months ago
i had those before but i just ignore them unless their a person i know. then i ask them about it but thats very rare.
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