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I think everyone's in the same boat though most joined at Skyrim.

I personally think ESO was good but it wasn't like Skyrim and it wasn't meant to be.

SammuWamm

5 years, 8 months ago

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that's exact what i say.

TESO was designed very much to be a classic Elder Scrolls style game but in the form of online gaming.

Everybody just wants Skyrim Online. That's not the same thing.

Breddeer

5 years, 8 months ago

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Well I hope Elsweyr is going to be more along those lines but they've already said they want graphic over content so I hope they changed their mind on that.

SammuWamm

5 years, 8 months ago

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probably not. i expect it to be a completely different kind of game where you're funneled into a story.

might still be good though.

Breddeer

5 years, 8 months ago

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no no NO!

it's gotta have the freedom to roam and do what I like when I like or it's just not Elder Scrolls anymore and I don't want to play medieval Gears of War.

SammuWamm

5 years, 8 months ago

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personally i think the later does sound appealing.

still there are other games that can supply the former.

Breddeer

5 years, 8 months ago

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Edited 5 years, 8 months ago by Owner

well I guess we always have custom.

speaking off how's the Turn-based Albion progress.

SammuWamm

5 years, 8 months ago

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not good.

i've pretty much got to start over.

Breddeer

5 years, 8 months ago

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holy crap man that sucks.

let's hope you don't abandon it like every other project you have that hits a sppedbump o_0

SammuWamm

5 years, 8 months ago

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not abandon completely but maybe a redesign.

Breddeer

5 years, 8 months ago

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Edited 5 years, 8 months ago by Owner

so where's the new one set?

what are the characters like?

what items did you add/remove?

SammuWamm

5 years, 8 months ago

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well i really want to set the game in Grenwuld and that kinda means like we wont have half the same characters you know.

However ironically Shinohashi may appear as a completely different but identical character.

I thought maybe set it out in the mid country of Grenwuld in some town that doesn't yet exist at least as tutorial.

As for items armors follow the basic set and as of the game's creation so do weapon types and materials but i plan to add some new weaponry to spice things up.

also the new stat system is in play which has 4 stats Agility, Strength, Stealth and Awareness.

social aspects are split between Stealth and Awareness, Stealth being deception and Awareness being perception.

for that reason the personality types go as follows Agility is impatient and impulsive, Strength is proud and loud, Stealth is manipulative and charismatic and Awareness is nerdy and nosey.

Learning wont just be through booksmarts so skills will need different stats each time to enhance them, in particular fitness based things are divided into Agilty and/or Strength depending on which makes more sense, factual knowledge will in general fall under Awareness and social skills under Stealth.

None of these are absolute rules so within each category you can make different builds for different stat balances.

Breddeer

5 years, 8 months ago

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1- that stat system makes a lot more sense.
2- shame about the armors. do you intend to add more later or is that just it?
3- ooh. what kind of new weaponry?
4- any ideas for the new town and NPC's? would you like some advice / fans make their own?
5- did you fuck with the combat and survival systems?

SammuWamm

5 years, 8 months ago

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"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	1- that stat system makes a lot more sense.

yeah i think that's as simple as i can make it.
better to start with the engine build before trying to custom personalities and gear.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	2- shame about the armors. do you intend to add more later or is that just it?

unfortunately no. the armors for every race in the game would add a huge amount of relatively pointless extra data. the armor would have to something so different and spectacular to warrant being replicated hunderds of times over.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	3- ooh. what kind of new weaponry?

Don't quite know just yet but so far since it's the flavor of the year I thought maybe something along the lines of feed powers, traction, stasis, that kind of thing or straight up saf control, void, godkilling and eraser powers.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	4- any ideas for the new town and NPC's? would you like some advice / fans make their own?

i'm still thinking on that at the moment. i need to work out some stuff about the races, plotline, politics, history, etc before i settle on what characters to include. Similar-wise the purpose for the town needs to be thought in.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	5- did you fuck with the combat and survival systems?

good question. short answer is yes but luckily it's in a way that fans will actually like this time. the effects system is going to be a lot more simplistic as well as the swing/stroke/thrust system. this means that weapon designing is going to be much more basic too. i simply can't do the same level of customization in the new software.

counter to that certain other easy to implement modes will be introduced which will make the survival system much easier to use and less stressful. It'll be very similar to old RPM. Ask

MaxwellGalloway

about that. other weird mechanics are available as long as it doesn't require any visual editing. This includes things like craft farms, scheduled entertainment distribution, lock/free systems and adventure elements, possibly even a dream mode and the death system has had some awesome new revisions. Check out my blog on that.

In fact the lock/free system is going to be more significant as well as multi-layer crafting similar to DSEG400's system. However the socializing system is gonna be more basic. I think you'll like the way the crafting system turned out and I know you're already groaning at the lock/free system coming back but this time it's like the early fan customs rather than the retarchonplex system i used before.

so yeah basically i've been listening to my fans for once. any new ideas i have i'll put through the fanwork wringer before giving them the okay.

Breddeer

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"	SammuWamm wrote:
	yeah i think that's as simple as i can make it. better to start with the engine build before trying to custom personalities and gear.

should have really started off that way to begin with.
glad we get tailored gear for stat biases and it even tells us the personality of the user.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	unfortunately no. the armors for every race in the game would add a huge amount of relatively pointless extra data. the armor would have to something so different and spectacular to warrant being replicated hunderds of times over.

armor visuals aren't that important anyway. we'll get used to it.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	Don't quite know just yet but so far since it's the flavor of the year I thought maybe something along the lines of feed powers, traction, stasis, that kind of thing or straight up saf control, void, godkilling and eraser powers..

holy crap next level monster power weaponry! do that!

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	i'm still thinking on that at the moment. i need to work out some stuff about the races, plotline, politics, history, etc before i settle on what characters to include. Similar-wise the purpose for the town needs to be thought in.

see you next year.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	the effects system is going to be a lot more simplistic as well as the swing/stroke/thrust system. this means that weapon designing is going to be much more basic too. i simply can't do the same level of customization in the new software.

it's not going to be like Ebenhand is it? oh no.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	other weird mechanics are available as long as it doesn't require any visual editing. This includes things like craft farms, scheduled entertainment distribution and adventure elements, possibly even a dream mode and the death system has had some awesome new revisions. Check out my blog on that.

The new saf heavy system for respawn sounds intriguing. Don't think anyone will like their characters getting deleted though. Still that makes those special weapons gold dust.

Farming introduced into this game is weird but makes complete sense. This is something I'll enjoy.

Adventure elements will really make this game have its own identity. This will be a very different Albion.

Scheduled entertainment sounds amazing. Everybody raves about how awesome it was. A game with its own built in Netflix is just wow.

Dream mode and madness mode stuff is the shit. To have that in Albion would be wild.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	the lock/free system is going to be more significant as well as multi-layer crafting similar to DSEG400's system. However the socializing system is gonna be more basic. I think you'll like the way the crafting system turned out and I know you're already groaning at the lock/free system coming back but this time it's like the early fan customs rather than the retarchonplex system i used before.

I still don't think you can make the lock/free system intuitive. it's gonna be a pain in the neck.

Crafting thing sounds good though. I want to see that.

I'm all for interaction and all but in a single player game what's the point? if you intend to use this system as a required mechanic I might just throw my pc at the wall.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	so yeah basically i've been listening to my fans for once.

still sounds like you didn't.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	any new ideas i have i'll put through the fanwork wringer before giving them the okay.

I think your old ideas might be too whether you like it or not. especially with a new website specifically for you stuff alone.

SammuWamm

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"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	glad we get tailored gear for stat biases and it even tells us the personality of the user.

yep and that's even a mechanic and everything.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	holy crap next level monster power weaponry! do that!

limited visual components so that's a massive maybe no. it's still possible but it would be a mammoth task. leave that up to fan edits. i'm not doing that. it's a waste of resources. But death-play will seriously be a thing.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	see you next year.

seems like it. there's a lot to do and after this set back i just don't have the heart for it right now. things should by all rights pick up in June though.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	it's not going to be like Ebenhand is it? oh no.

not quite that bad but maybe similar to my early combat system for Monster Way.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	The new saf heavy system for respawn sounds intriguing. Don't think anyone will like their characters getting deleted though. Still that makes those special weapons gold dust.

The point is though that your character doesn't get deleted. Just loses high-end rare abilities and has a history refresh.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	Farming introduced into this game is weird but makes complete sense. This is something I'll enjoy.

I've been meaning to do it for years but the sprite count won't let me. No problem with that now. That was the first thing I thought "I have to do this.".

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	Adventure elements will really make this game have its own identity. This will be a very different Albion.

Code-wise it's probably the easiest of all to implement but it relies on item quantity rather than hundreds of different items. Sorry to bust your bubble.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	Scheduled entertainment sounds amazing. Everybody raves about how awesome it was. A game with its own built in Netflix is just wow.

Well I thought of making a randomly generated show using code. The indexes will be based on the date and a thematic system about the individual shows via criterion. Should be a lot of fun. Don't worry, every user should see the same show play out as each other. Eventually it will run out of phrases and repeat itself but pointless text content is my forte so it's hardly going to turn out like a Tomodachi Life rap battle.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	Dream mode and madness mode stuff is the shit. To have that in Albion would be wild.

It's completely possible but don't expect hundreds of different outcomes. Also there'll be some very very limited 72nd hour gimmicks you can exploit. Yeah and that's gonna be running whilst canon and story characters are walking around and everything.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	I still don't think you can make the lock/free system intuitive. it's gonna be a pain in the neck.

it's gonna be like 3 buttons.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	Crafting thing sounds good. I want to see that.

I now realize that towns are best for pointlessly lengthy menu systems.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	I'm all for interaction and all but in a single player game what's the point? if you intend to use this system as a required mechanic I might just throw my pc at the wall.

kinda but it's not going to have the 3 pages full of expressions. simple shit like the topic of the conversation will do just fine.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	I think your old ideas might be put through the wringer whether you like it or not. especially with a new website specifically for you stuff alone.

i am totally intending that to happen. i fucking invite it wholeheartedly. new pc is new me. if i have to start from scratch i might as well change everything.

Breddeer

5 years, 8 months ago

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"	SammuWamm wrote:
	death-play will seriously be a thing.

Not surprised with the saf mechanic in this game.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	there's a lot to do and after this set back i just don't have the heart for it right now. things should by all rights pick up in June though.

you'll bounce back. you always come back fighting stronger.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	similar to my early combat system for Monster Way.

oh hey that sounds pretty good actually.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	The new saf heavy system for respawn sounds intriguing. Don't think anyone will like their characters getting deleted though. Still that makes those special weapons gold dust.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	The point is though that your character doesn't get deleted. Just loses high-end rare abilities and has a history refresh.

yeah that shit. that's the exact shit I'm talking about.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	Adventure elements will really make this game have its own identity. This will be a very different Albion.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	Code-wise it's probably the easiest of all to implement but it relies on item quantity rather than hundreds of different items. Sorry to bust your bubble.

With the farming mechanic as well that actually sounds pretty awesome.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	Scheduled entertainment sounds amazing. Everybody raves about how awesome it was. A game with its own built in Netflix is just wow.

SammuWamm wrote:

That's even better than what I imagined it was going to be. Spoon that shit straight into my mouth.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	there'll be some very very limited 72nd hour gimmicks you can exploit. Yeah and that's gonna be running whilst canon and story characters are walking around and everything.

You just suicided series 2 and it's going to be absolutely glorious.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	I still don't think you can make the lock/free system intuitive. it's gonna be a pain in the neck.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	it's gonna be like 3 buttons.

nah you'll fuck us over somehow. you always do.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	I now realize that towns are best for pointlessly lengthy menu systems.

wait. what about combat crafting? don't tell me you REMOVED IT!!!

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	I'm all for interaction and all but in a single player game what's the point? if you intend to use this system as a required mechanic I might just throw my pc at the wall.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	kinda but it's not going to have the 3 pages full of expressions. simple shit like the topic of the conversation will do just fine.

if you simply copy the front page over and nothing else I will be a happy boy.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	I think your old ideas might be put through the wringer whether you like it or not. especially with a new website specifically for you stuff alone.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	i am totally intending that to happen. i fucking invite it wholeheartedly. new pc is new me. if i have to start from scratch i might as well change everything.

what happened to the Jay we knew who took series 2 as gospel?

SammuWamm

5 years, 8 months ago

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"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	you'll bounce back. you always come back fighting stronger.

aw that's nice. CX

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	The new saf heavy system for respawn sounds intriguing. Don't think anyone will like their characters getting deleted though. Still that makes those special weapons gold dust.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	The point is though that your character doesn't get deleted. Just loses high-end rare abilities and has a history refresh.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	that's the exact shit I'm talking about.

Get used to it. I'm not changing it until people have at least had chance to see it in action.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	there'll be some very very limited 72nd hour gimmicks you can exploit. Yeah and that's gonna be running whilst canon and story characters are walking around and everything.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	You just suicided series 2 and it's going to be absolutely glorious.

I am equally looking forward to it. >)

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	I now realize that towns are best for pointlessly lengthy menu systems.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	wait. what about combat crafting? don't tell me you REMOVED IT!!!

No it's still there but it works like the regular combat crafting system and not DSEG400. leave that shit for safe spaces where time isn't an issue.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	if you simply copy the communication front page over and nothing else I will be a happy boy.

prepare to be a happy boy. it's pretty much just that.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	I think your old ideas might be put through the wringer whether you like it or not. especially with a new website specifically for you stuff alone.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	i am totally intending that to happen. i fucking invite it wholeheartedly. new pc is new me. if i have to start from scratch i might as well change everything.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	whatever happened to the Jay we knew who took series 2 as gospel?

welcome to the new wave. swimming lessons start right now. throw you in the pool.

Breddeer

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"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	you'll bounce back. you always come back fighting stronger.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	aw that's nice. CX

whether we want you to or not.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	I now realize that towns are best for pointlessly lengthy menu systems.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	wait. what about combat crafting? don't tell me you REMOVED IT!!!

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	No it's still there but it works like the regular combat crafting system and not DSEG400. leave that shit for safe spaces where time isn't an issue.

this was the best possible outcome.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	if you simply copy the communication front page over and nothing else I will be a happy boy.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	prepare to be a happy boy. it's pretty much just that.

it's the "pretty much" part that scares me.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	whatever happened to the Jay we knew who took series 2 as gospel?

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	welcome to the new wave. swimming lessons start right now. throw you in the pool.

you're gonna regret this later I swear.

SammuWamm

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"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	you'll bounce back. you always come back fighting stronger.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	aw that's nice. CX

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	whether we want you to or not.

way to kill the mood (T_T)

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	the combat crafting works like the regular combat crafting system and not DSEG400. leave that shit for safe spaces where time isn't an issue.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	this was the best possible outcome.

the lock/free system is similar but you don't care and you'll chew my head off for mentioning it.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	whatever happened to the Jay we knew who took series 2 as gospel?

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	welcome to the new wave. swimming lessons start right now. throw you in the pool.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	you're gonna regret this later I swear.

i can fix anything.
if i do i swear i can make something good out of the fresh blood.

Breddeer

5 years, 8 months ago

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"	SammuWamm wrote:
	the combat crafting works like the regular combat crafting system and not DSEG400. leave that shit for safe spaces where time isn't an issue.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	this was the best possible outcome.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	the lock/free system is similar but you don't care and you'll chew my head off for mentioning it.

nobody cares john.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	whatever happened to the Jay we knew who took series 2 as gospel?

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	welcome to the new wave. swimming lessons start right now. throw you in the pool.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	you're gonna regret this later I swear.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	i can fix anything. if i do i swear i can make something good out of the fresh blood.

this is gonna be Albion's Teen Titans Go isn't it?

SammuWamm

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"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	whatever happened to the Jay we knew who took series 2 as gospel?

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	welcome to the new wave. swimming lessons start right now. throw you in the pool.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	you're gonna regret this later I swear.

"	SammuWamm wrote:
	i can fix anything. if i do i swear i can make something good out of the fresh blood.

"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	this is gonna be Albion's Teen Titans Go isn't it?

casually breaths new death into the Albion fandom

Breddeer

5 years, 8 months ago

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be careful you don't wind up chowing down on those words

Xman21yo

5 years, 8 months ago

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i thought this was a topic about Elder Scrolls.

the hell are you doing Dom?

SammuWamm

5 years, 8 months ago

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if he wants to talk about different game in his own damn topic he can

Yolanda

5 years, 7 months ago

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exactly, my friend

Xman21yo

5 years, 8 months ago

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"	DomTheGoat wrote:
	no no NO! it's gotta have the freedom to roam and do what I like when I like or it's just not Elder Scrolls anymore and I don't want to play medieval Gears of War.

to be fair i would totally play a medieval version of gears.

OrangeOlive

5 years, 8 months ago

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same but Bethesda are the only people really making free roaming now so do you really want to sacrifice that for irt?

Xman21yo

5 years, 8 months ago

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@ OrangeOlive

it will inspire 3rd party businesses

SammuWamm

5 years, 8 months ago

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that's already happening but corpos are trying to keep them down.

wait til they get a load of me.

Yolanda

5 years, 7 months ago

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we've been waiting a while for that already

Xman21yo

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"	SammuWamm wrote:
	i've played all the games to some degree and i love the series but i think the company is falling apart and we've basically lost all chance of successive sequels. another good thing ruined by the money monsters. i'm still getting Elsweyr though.

i reckon they have 1 good game left in them.

they i hope they sell the idea to a company that can do it better.

could you imagine if it was bought by nintendo.

that sweet shit.

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