Inkbunny

Its not inkbunny , sorry if you thought that.

WolfScout09911221

6 years, 4 months ago

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Cheetah? Thank you for telling me that. May I ask you to note me please? I want to talk about something with you, if you're ok with it. No, it's not RP. Simple ?'s, that's all.

cheetahjab

6 years, 4 months ago

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You're welcome to ask me what ever you'd like in PM if you want. No biggy.. I mean I can't promise to be able to answer everything, but I'll do my best.

ChakatStripedfur

6 years, 4 months ago

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Jim isn't the owner of InkBunny, he's the owner of The J.A.B Archives and of the webcomic Cats n' Cameras.

WolfScout09911221

6 years, 4 months ago

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@ ChakatStripedfur

Cha? If you like, may I see a example of this comic please?

cheetahjab

6 years, 4 months ago

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It's posted here, though not the most recent pages and you can see it at catsncameras.com it's been going since 2008, had about 10 different artists, just a very small portion of what I've done since 1995 :P

ChakatStripedfur

6 years, 4 months ago

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What Jim said. Also, could you not call me Cha? Chakat is fine, but not Cha please.

WolfScout09911221

6 years, 4 months ago

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@ ChakatStripedfur

Sorry Mr. Chakat. I didn't mean to... I have Autism and it effects me in weird ways. Again, I apologize.

ChakatStripedfur

6 years, 4 months ago

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No problem, man, no harm done.

FoxyFemme

6 years, 4 months ago

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Cheetah, if I still had a job, I would happily throw money at your projects. I did for years, as Porter, chipping in regularly on the “tip her to strip her” offers and once or twice paying for cameo roles in the comic. But I got forced into an early retirement, and now I’m living off my savings and investments. So I fear the only thing I can give you is my heartfelt thanks, for all the comics, stories and characters you gave to us. It sucks that you racked up so much debt trying to keep it all alive, and that fan-driven funding fell so short of your costs. I really hope you can find a white knight to pay those bills, even if you can’t keep it all going for us. Good luck, my friend. And thank you.

cheetahjab

6 years, 4 months ago

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@ FoxyFemme

Thanks for the well wishes my friend

krazylegz624

6 years, 4 months ago

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i loved reading the comic but if you're that deep in the red and getting nothing to even try to balance it, i'd say either abandon ship or close the doors until you can get things back in a semi-reasonable working order. short of "get a Patreon" option or sell black market organs, you might have to consider defeat as an option and try to avoid things getting worse. i'd love to say "i'd chip in" but i'm among the many who can't for our own various reasons for lacking funds to spare. i really hope you get out of your debt and hate to see it go like this.

Panda71

6 years, 4 months ago

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I'm sorry for the hard times you and the site are falling on Cheetah. I wish I could help...I truly do...I will be sending good vibes your way. I hope you can at least try to enjoy your Thanksgiving Day.

TheViktor

6 years, 4 months ago

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Shared your journal at my profile https://inkbunny.net/j/337749-TheViktor-this-is-the-end-

SerathDuo

6 years, 4 months ago

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This is literally the only thing I can do, but I hope to God it helps, even if it's just in some small way.
https://inkbunny.net/j/337776-SerathDuo-cats-n-cameras-...

0RamenNoodles0

6 years, 4 months ago

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@ SerathDuo

You must be misunderstanding the situation here.
It isn't just one comic at risk here. The entirety of palcomix all together is about to shut down for good.
A dark day for all of hentai kind.

SerathDuo

6 years, 4 months ago

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@ 0RamenNoodles0

You're right I did, and

cheetahjab

was nice enough to straighten me out. I'll fix both of my journals to better explain the situation.

EtherSaga

6 years, 4 months ago

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Damn... sorry to hear this news.

GreenReaper

6 years, 4 months ago

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Edited 6 years, 4 months ago by Owner

So, first rules of holes - you need to stop digging:

"	We're in a half cabinet in a secure data center, we're on 4 separate servers to make sure we never lose content. We're on a 10MB unmetered backbone with octuple redundancy

This is going to be costing you a bunch and won't give you reasonable bandwidth. Even if it's 100Mbit/sec it's probably a bad deal because you probably won't be using it at that consistently.

You'd probably do far better consolidating onto a leased server (maybe two, if you really need it - remember leases include replacements!) from a large hosting provider like LeaseWeb, either in the USA or - more cost-effectively - in Europe or Canada, if the jurisdictions are to your liking. If they don't meet your storage needs, use the configuration option. Or find someone else, like OVH's SoYouStart or Kimsufi brands.

Inkbunny runs on ~$300/month, including ancillaries, and we push over 25TB/month not including cache-to-cache transfers, so I find it hard to believe that you can't manage on less.

Keep the old servers at home if you want a backup, or sell them if they're still worth something; unfortunately Meltdown and Spectre will have decreased market value even if they're new.

cheetahjab

6 years, 4 months ago

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@ GreenReaper

Actually have a very secure set up with GoRack here in Jacksonville, in a federal reserve bank, and the fact it's a tier 1 data center means I answer to noone for content so long as it's not illegal . I've done the leased machine routes before.. Some of the stuff we also host on the servers there help keep us at least a little afloat.. Bandwidth wise, we're pushing about 45tb/month on slow months.. Only reason I moved to the cabinets was because it was the same cost as the colo plus/minus $25.. (they really wanted to fill the cabinets) So going back to an open colo wouldn't really benefit us.. We're really just running a ridiculously slow period.. It's just compounded over time and the fact that I very VERY much need to change our payment provider from the one I had to switch to out of emergency.. I could really use some possible talk time with you to see if there's any chance some of the coders that worked on inkbunny could possible tweak the gallery code we had written since that developer left.. And left it unfinished... I've been at this for soo soooo long, I really don't want to lose it.

Thanks for your advice my friend!

Novilon

6 years, 4 months ago

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Edited 6 years, 4 months ago by Owner

Not to belabor the obvious, but... have you checked your server logs to see if someone is hotlinking a lot of images from your servers onto their sites, or repeatedly mass-downloading the entire site, or anything like that? I find it almost inconceivable that even Palcomix, Jab Archives, and Cats 'n' Cameras combined -- which, between them, carry a handful of weekly-updated webcomics and the galleries of maybe a couple dozen active artists at most (last I looked, anyway) -- can possbly be consuming almost twice the monthly bandwidth of a site like Inkbunny, which has thousands of active users posting and viewing hundreds of new postings every day...

cheetahjab

6 years, 4 months ago

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@ Novilon

Yes, and again.. As much as everyone thinks they know what's going on behind the scenes.. yes that amount of traffic flows out of the sites which span significantly MORE than the furry fandom. Even Pal has more traffic from the Anime side of things . Which is why the same message is out there on their site, asking the same of that side of our audience. TJA is also outside of the Furry only audience. Hell the only reason FA uses so much bandwidth is poorly written code... but yes. I have a very strong grip on where our bandwidth and server capacity go.

0RamenNoodles0

6 years, 4 months ago

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For those confused about the situation, it isn't just cats n cameras at stake here.
Although that is a shame in of itself.

The entirety of palcomix and everything attributed to it is about to shut down for good, unless sales get better very soon.

A dark day for all of hentai kind.

Everyone please do what you can.
Palcomix is just too awesome to let collapse.

lordzolo

6 years, 4 months ago

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i would feel sadder for lost of such good comics if i had not warned them of this years ago. splitting resources so many diff ways, using adds, hentaikey, mobius unleashed and peitro club all to get funds and charging more or less same? people's funds don't stretch as far as used to.

lordzolo

6 years, 4 months ago

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add to that we get 1 premium comic page and 4 sometimes 5 pics a week on these memberships? some often really half assed? god no wonder it was failing. i jumped ship to JAB a while back and most people i know do also. PAL just got too greedy to follow seriously.

cheetahjab

6 years, 4 months ago

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Edited 6 years, 4 months ago by Owner

Jumped ship to jab? Little confusing.. Point blank Mobiusunleashed pays the majority of the bills that occur at tja.. so when it's membership declines as it has, the site has a hard time paying for everything. ALL... ALLLL of the other stuff Pays the 14 or so artists that BRING the PalComix content to all of you.. And 75% of Mobius's income also PAYS those artists.. Speaking of content.. Each and EVERY Tuesday (since I'm the one updating the site) It's 5 Comic pages or more. and 12 Pictures... So round about 50 to 60 pictures a month and 20-24 comic pages a month on mobius... You're theoretically paying 31.5 cents per picture. And that's if you're doing the non discounted memberships.. which if then drops to 25 cents. On the 6 month membership you pay 20 cents per picture...

cheetahjab

6 years, 4 months ago

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hell I did all that math wrong cause it's 15 pictures each week for the 4 areas that update pictures and the 5 areas that update comics each week adds at least 5 pages per week... but you get my drift..

lordzolo

6 years, 4 months ago

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love to know where you got 70 pics from? hentai key last 7 months straight 4 pics and 1 comic strip. the 4 pics are phones in quality from 3 years backs.

mobius has SLIGHTLY more pics across the 4 sites but only 2 or 3 update semi often. it averages 9 pics A MONTH.

now if we factor peitro AND slavetoon AND yuri heaven on top of mobius and hentai key MAYBE we get near 60...however the combined triple cost makes that nearly $100. be a grade A assclown to pay that for porn.

long story the pal guys are just bad at marketing their product. they been in and out of financial issues last 5 years and had issues when i first found them nearly a decade ago. they should have never tried to make it solo and signed on with a bigger company as free lance artists.
they did a few good stories and will miss them but too much; especially of late, shows how rushed they are and how phoned in the art has become. hell so many comics mess up the text or repeat a previous pages text in every bubble. no quality control or love for art anymore it's all capitalism bottom line these days.

lordzolo

6 years, 4 months ago

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TBH these days i am prob just spoiled for choice so much more. i mean i follow shadman and akubar who are both known as being slowest and most inconsistent uploaders ever; yet their quality is always top noche so when i see regular artwork that lacks same consistency it eerks me.

cheetahjab

6 years, 4 months ago

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