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ThaPig

The Walking Dead went full retard...

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(SPOILERS AHEAD!)

I know you need some suspension of disbelief to watch a show about cannibal corpses, but this last episode had such an idiotic plot that you could feel your brain shrink.

So far we saw the characters struggle for survival and fight enemy factions, but now they want to rebuild the world. Fine to me, but it seems that in order to restore civilization, they need to go to a museum and retrieve some obsolete relics.

These objects are an 18-century plow, a western style wagon, and a stone-age canoe.

Can anyone tell me why they need these antiques when there have to be modern versions of those items laying around?

It looks like they travel several miles across zombie infected land to find this museum. Then they pull those things across a glass floor over a pit full of hungry walkers, because it was not dangerous enough already. Obviously, the glass cracks for dramatic effect and they barely survive, but that's only the beginning of their journey home with their cargo of junk.

Long story short one of them dies in the trip, which triggers more conflict in the second half of the episode.

I see they needed that death to advance the plot, but there are no logical reasons they needed these things, let alone risk their lives for them.

They mention they needed the plow "to use as a template to build more". Well, if all you need is a "template" you could have gone to the library and look for books on farming equipment. If I needed a plow the last place I would go looking would be a museum, I'd go to the closest abandoned farm and look for something that's not crumbling to pieces (as the ancient one actually does during transport)

The boat was even dumber because it was not even the kind of advanced canoes the native Americans built, this was a crude wood boat that looked like something a beaver had carved out of a log with his teeth. Unless now it's canon that walkers eat fiberglass, all they needed to do was break into a sports store and pick up a modern lightweight canoe complete with oars... even an electric motor (they are shown charging batteries with solar panels in that same episode)

Finally, the wagon was the most ridiculous item of all, because just minutes before these same people are shown traveling in a modern wagon made of metal with modern suspension and tires. Why did they need one with primitive wooden wheels that would get stuck in the first poodle of mud? (and indeed it does!) We have seen them using welding equipment in previous episodes and there are millions of abandoned cars with wheels all over this universe. Why they needed a "You Have Died of Dysentery" style wagon is a mystery.

I know the quality of the writing has been going down for some seasons now, however, the show used to be relatively realistic within the confines of the unplausible premise of a zombie apocalypse. This last episode felt to me like the plot of a fantasy video game where the characters need to go on a side quest for a three pointless McGuffins.

Anyone feels the same?
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Added: 5 years, 7 months ago
 
8Horns
5 years, 7 months ago
I stopped watching 2 seasons ago . That show gives me too much anxiety , which I really don't need anymore . XD
ThaPig
5 years, 7 months ago
I got bored some time ago, but my wife is a big fan so I watch with her.

Right now the only thing that could make me regain interest would be Michonne nude.
Bahlam
5 years, 7 months ago
I did the same. It was getting so dumb and pointlessly cruel. I guess they're moving on from Negan into some different conflicts so...

Knowing something about the history of technology makes that whole pitfall plot seem even dumberer. There are reasons to prefer a mooxool (dugout canoe) over a modern boat or birchbark canoe but it's hardly worth retrieving an old one. They're not complicated to make with fire and hand tools. It shouldn't take more than a month or so and there are plenty of tulip trees. Cut one down, hollow it out a bit, and you have a very stable boat that can last for a century or so even in seawater. I've been reading a review copy of a not-yet-published book on the Tappan (a native tribe whose name has recently been erased) so I'm inclined to think of such a thing. The plow doesn't make any sense either. Horsedrawn plows aren't that complex. Neither are wagons, but they might have some point in copying wheels. Shaving spokes and smithing spoked wheels is a bit complicated but nothing a good woodworker couldn't figure out after a couple of tries. Three-piece wheels are heavy but super simple to build and work fine for a cart and can be made from pieces from a house or other wood structure. There are also plenty of lightweight modern wheels that can be used in their place. A horse can certainly pull a cart with some tractor wheels after all.

So, overall from what I've read about it this premier episode is just plain stupid but less pointlessly violent than the last two seasons.
ThaPig
5 years, 6 months ago
Yeah a couple of seasons ago, when Negan appeared the show turned into torture porn. For a while, it was all about who evil and cruel Negan is.

And I have to admit I personally love Negan, he is one of the best villains ever and the actor is excellent at being a psychopath. But the best character can't save a show if the rest of the story is not interesting to match.

Then the show went thought some kind of "inspirational speech" phase where every character had to give a speech to his faction or followers. It was one speech after another about "we are going to win this war NOW!" but they didn't get to the fighting. The King gave a speech, Rick gave a speech, Negan gave a speech...

Right now it's in the "Saint Coral" phase.
Bahlam
5 years, 6 months ago
Ugh! Too many speeches? That's no way to run a show. Yeah, I heard the whole point of the show now is to live up to 'Coral's legacy somehow. How the hell did it come to that? Anyway, I see the ratings for the latest premiere are way down from what TWD was getting in previous seasons and Rick is leaving and none of that that bodes well for its future.
sedkitty
5 years, 7 months ago
The comics are much better.
ThaPig
5 years, 7 months ago
Yeah. I haven't read them, but I have heard the series have distanced a lot from the comic, especially in the latest seasons.
sedkitty
5 years, 7 months ago
The show's basically the same thing over and over: they find a safe place; through violence or stupidity the place becomes unsafe; zombies walkers show up and chow down on some of the cast; the rest go looking for another safe place.  Basically, the humans are the brainless ones.
Furlips
5 years, 7 months ago
I quit watching TV 20 years ago.

Bunners
ThaPig
5 years, 7 months ago
I don't watch much TV, but my wife does. Mostly Star Trek reruns.
Mattspew
5 years, 7 months ago
The only good season was the first season imo >.> I'm not surprised the writers keep on making the characters do dumb things within the show; it's been a common trait for season 2 and upwards because the producers cut the budget to ribbons, so they had to settle for people that didn't work on the first season (some had absolutely no familiarity with the show or the comic). I'm not saying that it's a bad tv series, but it's definitely not a good adaptation, mostly due to lack of effort and want of cash.

Now, Telltale did a good adaptation, but they're pretty much dead due to shady business practices, so I don't think that walker's gonna come back lol Read the comics; they're so much better than the show, and are definitely worth the attention anyway.
ThaPig
5 years, 6 months ago
I haven't read the comics and I have lost interest because I think the zombie genre is dead (but not walking much) it was fun for a while but now is boring. How many variations of the zombie can they make?
Just in this show, it has become the "new walker of the week" thing where every episode they have to design a new kind of corpse we haven't seen before.

We had the fat walker, the water-drenched walker, the oil tank walker, the mushroom-covered walker... this last episode it was the spider-puking walker.
Mattspew
5 years, 6 months ago
Yeah that sounds really weird xD It's too bad that they can't do something creative with it like in the Resident Evil franchise (game or movie). But then, you're right about the zombie craze being dead. The entertainment industry is so saturated with them, and usually unoriginal in their appearances. Zombies need a double-tap.

On the other hand, do ya remember how the group was worried about the water in the well on Hershel's farm being infected and they think they make matters worse by splitting the bloated zombie in the well but in actuality it was always infected because there was a freakin zombie in the well and they almost killed one of their party members needlessly? Bad writing can be good for a chuckle sometimes. :)
SenGrisane
5 years, 7 months ago
I have only watched snippets from the show. Most stuff I know is from the Telltale games.
I can understand that the walking dead can be frustrating ^^
Issarlk
5 years, 7 months ago
Plot twist: the zombies already ate their brains and they didn't notice.
ThaPig
5 years, 7 months ago
I think they ate the writer's brains.
GreenPika
5 years, 7 months ago
the people writing this show are retards with no connection to real life.
ThaPig
5 years, 6 months ago
You mean the show is written by politicians?
GreenPika
5 years, 6 months ago
yeah XD
GunslingerDragon
5 years, 7 months ago
Everything I've seen or heard of TWD is that it runs 10000% on Rule Of Drama; whatever is the most DRAMATIC is what will happen/be done/etc, no matter how stupid or impossible. One of the games has a whole bunch of people who can't tell a dog bite from a human bite and deal with it in the dumbest way available, so even that wasn't immune to it.
ThaPig
5 years, 6 months ago
I think you nailed it there. Instead of action or horror or survival, the show has become all about drama. It's an hour of drama and sometimes a dead dude walk across the screen...
FurCollector
5 years, 6 months ago
I stopped watching this show after the episode the kid gets shot through a deer by a hunter. I like to think that I retired myself on time, heh
ThaPig
5 years, 6 months ago
That was long time ago. It went downhill from there.

Coral is in danger (drama!)
Coral is wounded (drama!)
Coral lost his mother (drama!)
Coral is traumatized (drama!)
Coral lost an eye! (drama!)
Coral tries to singlehandedly take over enemy camp (drama!)
Coral captured by the enemy (drama!)
Coral was bitten! (drama!)
Coral blew his own brains! (drama!)

and right now we are in the season of

Cast members find Coral left them heartbreaking letters before dying (drama!)
Makroth
4 years, 10 months ago
I quit watching at the beginning of the second Negan season. Is it worth watching any further?
ThaPig
4 years, 10 months ago
My wife is the one who watches it.
I also lost interest, but she likes it.
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