who do you think is in the wrong here? I'd like to know what your opinion is on this.
Now for me personally I know the risks of offering up content to be used freely. I have many fans and I realize that stifling their ability to use my characters in works just leads to people calling me a nazi for banning fanart and anyone who goes around condemning those who make fanworks for using their character also runs this risk.
I have on many occasions chosen for my characters to be used freely and know the risks of what type of content might be made with them in. I know full well that it opens up the floodgates to terrible artworks and hateful parodies that are derogatory to me and the characters they are free to use. I take that risk because I'd rather have fans be given the freedom to create even if it means hateful works are made.
However, I know that I am (as far as I know) alone in this. A lot of creators choose to cling to their creations like it's their little baby and they don't want the scary big kids to hurt them. My characters I suppose are used to getting hurt and know how to take it on the chin and get revenge through me generation content that addresses it and not challenges it but plays along and involves the haters often congratulating them for it like "oh yeah. you got me. nice one dude.".
However what I do find a lot of the time on the internet is people who foolishly open up their creations to be used by others and put the brakes on when it doesn't go their way. You can hardly say it's not their fault when they openly ask for it to be used since they really should have seen what was coming but on the other hand people do make mistakes and have to if they are going to learn.
A lot of people don't realize the full implications of what they are saying and think they sharing it around like a batch of brownies for people to enjoy. If you give them an inch they'll take a yard. If you truly didn't want your content used that way then maybe you shouldn't have offered it up. In the end you have no-one to blame but yourself.
But having made said mistake how are you going to rectify it? Some people might have made you some very nice works from where you began but there will always be the not so nice ones. Can you really pick and choose? You might totally detest some of them but now if you pull the plug it risks coming into conflict with the people you like who made the things you like from your work.
In the end the only option is you can't take your cake and eat it. You're either going to have to accept that bad artworks are going to be made or have to tell the people you like to remove their fanworks. There are these laws for a reason, to prevent this kind of confusion. You can't blame people for being naive and they shouldn't suffer for it but all good conduct aside it should be clear that it doesn't again, not just from the people who used the free content but from its supplier as well.
Interesting perspective indeed. And yes, unfortunately when free work is offered for anyone to use, some folks will indeed use it inappropriately, or some folks that you detest might use it as well.
And yes, it seems like a lot of folk who offer such a thing might not realise what they are offering, the good and the bad, the friendly and the unfriendly folks. It comes with the territory of being on the internet.
Thank you for your perspective on this. : 3
Interesting perspective indeed. And yes, unfortunately when free work is offered for anyone to use,
i know shit happens sometimes and everybody blames each other. we need rules to say how we can progress from that. However if i might say, all legality aside, it's a bit of a dick move to make so much fuss about it when the original artist has requested it to be taken down. Not that you're in the wrong but it's just kinda petty. Just like trolls trolling trolls. It's not really worth it. Don't let this stuff get to you. Just shrug and move on. There's not much you can do.
i'm often known for being the voice of reason. i know shit happens sometimes and everybody blames e
I get... very stubborn and frustrated if people are acting like the victim and on a high horse, when they are actually taking the rights away from others.
And acting against the law.
That is the only reason why I pushed it. Because... yeah... this kind of thing frustrates me.
But yeah, I get what you are saying. Of, essentially, don't let it get to me.
The thing is I used that artwork with every legal right behind me to do so. Then the artist turns around and says "Oops no. I don't like you. You can't have that thing that you legally have every right to have."
You know what I am saying?
I get... very stubborn and frustrated if people are acting like the victim and on a high horse, when
the best thing you can do in this situation is tell the admins and if they pick the other person's side well you've got 2 options 1, stop using that site or 2, live with it.
you're free to make a journal about it i think because the point of journals is to make updates on your life and that's kinda an event. But just remember, if the admins try to stop you talking about it don't be a fool and keep doing it because you might be in the right but you can still get banned.
everyone has a trigger. sometimes something just pushes your button and you blerb before you think it through. i know recently i posted a message about how i hated a certain video and not even sure why i got so upset about it but when i sat back and looked at what i did i realized what i did was silly and pointless. sometimes you need to just take a deep breath and go to the next.
yeah, i hear ya. don't let it get you down. the best thing you can do in this situation is tell the
The mods will make their decision, and that will be that.
I don't mind them having particular rules for the website, they have every right to run it however they see fit. Even if it does frustrate me slightly.
And yeah, it was a relatively major event, hence the journal. But, if they do stop me from talking about it, due to terms of service or whatever, it is their site, and I will comply.
Completely agree and completely understand. The mods will make their decision, and that will be tha
once someone provides something free with the intent for the public to use it, they can't retract it. they can bitch about the people using it and rant about it. but trying to claim copyright against only the people they don't like is a bit extreme.
in the future they should write in their descriptions "Free to use with permission, as long as you don't disagree with me or you're someone I don't like" so people know what to expect.
once someone provides something free with the intent for the public to use it, they can't retract it
i think there's been enough evidence put forward to say that it's not an accident and that it's not a case of hate crime so legally as it stands they've got no real leg to stand on if they complain about people doing exactly what they told them to.
i think maybe they intended for only the group they expected to make content such as those that they expected to read it on the site they posted it and they did say to "color" as they choose so i suppose they were expecting something dramatically different in hue. However the editing artist made no claim to the artwork and even provided evidence of its origin and what was stated. That's because in truth they had nothing to hide. Technically you could take someone's character and put a top hat on it and claim it as an original character if the original artist did say you're allowed to use it. i think the original artist's main argument they have is that the characters look too similar so it doesn't look like any attempt was made to call it their own. However there are 2 counter arguments to that 1, the art style is similar because it is literally the same artist so there's no claim of originality there and 2, from the headshot only considering the fact the two characters are already similar in coloring it doesn't mean it's an exact copy but more of a coincidental event where little editing was needed. You could claim that one guy's sheep looks like your sheep but you can't just copyright sheep in general because of it. There's reasons the two look similar but only should come down to copyright infringement when the intellectual properties have been infringed. The original artist isn't claiming that the editor's character looks like their character, they're claiming that the art is the same. If I put a beard on and i'm kinda old and skinny that doesn't make me bin laden. the old and skinny part is nothing i did to look a certain way, it was already there and i'm free to wear a beard if i like. it might just be an honest mistake by everyone involved but the admins acted before getting all the facts or worse chose a certain person's side because they shouted louder. you can claim a design but you can't claim a color and since they offered the design they can't claim against the same coloring. if you want to go down that route i might as well say the original poster is copying Zabivaka and open up that can of worms.
i think there's been enough evidence put forward to say that it's not an accident and that it's not
