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Interesting situation - Legal use and rules of Inkbunnyby
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| Added: | 6 years, 1 month ago |
| " | While I'm no ally to the Alt Right, I'm not to the opposition either especially since that side has given me continuous hate and threats for years because I criticized aspects of their movements and have been put on plenty of "bad people" lists for it. |
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That's actually not true! My issue was with VevoChroma2 and Foxler. I asked Chroma, quite politely, I might add, to not use my work because I didn't want the association to the Furry raiders. Foxler stepped in looking to reignite a war from the past and did the same. I asked him to remove it and then Alt Furry jumped in to heckle me and began editing/redistributing my work under the assumption that my issue with Foxler extended to them. I did not say a word to Alt Furry, they came tk me and when they began trying to troll me (poorly), that was when I began asking for takedowns. I always always asked them first before I filed any DMCAs because I wanted to give them a chance to honor my wishes as the IP holder and I felt that was a fair thing to do. Why file take downs when I could just ask first? However them coming at me with edited versions of my art and calling me names could be considered unprovoked harassment since it's been drove of them nonstop for hours sending me spam messages to clog my mentions, reporting things I took down myself and them making a call to arms against me. They came at me, not vise versa. |
| " | However them coming at me with edited versions of my art and calling me names could be considered unprovoked harassment since it's been drove of them nonstop for hours sending me spam messages to clog my mentions, reporting things I took down myself and them making a call to arms against me. They came at me, not vise versa. |
| " | them making a call to arms against me |
| " | They came at me, not vice versa. |
| " | ... this was removed from the website due to the terms of service of this website (always siding with the artist even if an illegal request). |
| " | The artist didn't like it when someone they didn't like used the base that they had given everyone permission to use for free. When I saw their dislike, I got the archive link and got a copy of the base, while it was still being provided for free with no conditions. |
| " | Now, after Foxler used the base, they decided to try and 'revoke the right to use it'. If you understand law, however, you would know that this concept is actually illegal. |
| " | The base was provided for free, with no qualifiers. No conditions. Nothing attached. . . . Specifically the "everyone who wants and icon can have one". Right there, no conditions, no requirements, nothing. |
| " | Depending on which section of law you believe that this falls into, if it is an offer to use their copyrighted artwork for your own use, or if it is a gift. Once the offer, or the gift, has been accepted, you cannot turn around and then try to take it away if you don't like the person that you gave it to. |
| " | [O]nce you have offered/gifted an artwork for others to use unconditionally, you do not retain legal rights to it. |
| " | So, if it was an offer, legally speaking, then the artist who offered it would be the offerer, and the one who accepted it the offeree. And, they did describe the interaction as an offer, so let us have a quick look at offer law. |
| " | Now, if it was a gift, and not an offer. Once the gift has been accepted, and it was with no conditions attached, the gift becomes the property of the one who receives it, which in this instance was me. And a gift cannot be given, and then taken away, again, that is illegal. |
| " | Due to the high volume of editing I had to do to make it match my character rather than what was provided . . . it is also heavily modified and would be legal under Fair Use as well! |
| " | Boy. That removal of consent after the act sure reminds me of an issue that some people face... |
| " | EDIT/UPDATE: Just to let everyone know. I am not a lawyer. I am trying my best to understand a legal situation, and this is my interpretation of the law. |
| " | On the contrary, a DMCA takedown request which meets all the elements is indeed a legal request. If IB doesn't want to lose their safe harbor status, they have no choice but to comply. They are not arbiters. |
| " | The phrase "no conditions" is misleading because it implies that there are no gap-fillers in IP law that impose conditions on a license. Unless the license explicitly disclaims any and all protections (in which case it is not really a license), there are always conditions. |
| " | I do "understand law" but I didn't know that this concept is illegal. You can actually revoke a license unilaterally. |
| " | Absolutely, positively, 100% wrong. The copyright does not just vanish into thin air. |
| " | I'm assuming you mean contract law, not "offer law", which doesn't exist. For a contract to exist, you must first satisfy the threshold elements of offer, acceptance, and consideration. There is no consideration here, so there is no contract. |
| " | A gift cannot, a license can. |
| " | Fair use is an extremely fact-dependent analysis with a variety of factors. "I edited it a lot" is not necessarily sufficient to reach that bar. |
| " | That should just about sum it up, frankly. IP law is something that takes years to learn and decades to master. Please don't try to "educate" people (even altfurries) with legally inaccurate and misleading advice. |
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"Sad part is that Zelox does this all the time, plagiarize people's art & characters then use "soft" words to hide the intention. But when he's caught he drops the demeanor via journal & tries hard to not insult the administration in the process then does it again once it's quiet." "On both Inkbunny and Furaffinity he does this for over a year wether he gets caught or not. So far he's been suspended twice on FA for going further than the passive aggressive excuses for some reason." |
| " | "That moment when a creepy stalker who tends to show off plagiarized artwork stalks you in some crappy furry site just to inform you that he doesn't plagiarize anyone's art while showing off new plagiarized artwork on Twitter." |
