First off I would like to say that I have had the worst day when it comes to this of all time in my career as an artist. I've heard the arguments and I've heard how it sucks that most good or great artists are expensive and I've had a bunch of people whine when I ask for anything around being fair to myself......
Art is fun but it doesn't come easy. Commission up the wazoo, that's easy. I really don't think most of the people that do have ever picked up a pencil and paper or actually tried to sit down with a tablet and draw something! Quality counts too and I'll be the first to say that quality wise maybe I fail and fall short...I've never had a complaint but then maybe that's just because of sugar coated stupid retarded lets not hurt feelings rather then letting me know. I want to know....if I suck artwise I want to know how so that I can improve.....3 years back I was just barely getting to a point where what I drew actually looked like what I was trying to draw. I feel I've made strides, if I haven't then that sucks but I'm so sick of this middle man standpoint......
Art is many things and that's a whole different conversation for another time.
But I have this person, comes to me knowing that right now I'm sort of going through a rough time financially. Made it clear that I could do a commission and we agreed originally on 25 bucks for a pic with an internal shot.....completely do able and I was happy, started drawing. Show this person updates, and then all of a sudden this person goes " Oh I just barely changed my fursona colors so if you could go back and fix that, that would be awesome. So I do.....couple more hours already then I wanted to spend but I figure I'll just work at this because I love drawing anyway and appreciate getting commissioned. So I'm almost done.....and this person comes back and goes...."Y'know what I've decided it would be really really awesome if it was a one page comic! Would that be okay? Thanks so much!"
Internally 'Fuck no!" externally I took some time thought about it and yeah I guess I could if I can up the price just a bit.
Then all of a sudden, "Let's make this comic pages!" "Oh by the way Holiday here's a story!" "You come up with a title and I'd like a title page as well!" "By the way I can't pay you for another week so will you just trust me to pay you after you post?" Then the kicker.......I agree to a one page deal hating myself for it and this person is excited. I show them the first panel drawn according to what they said they wanted and then they go through my gallery and tell me that they would like quality for each panel and that what I've done isn't good enough....when I clearly marked in the title 'First Cut' . Then I start drawing again and show this person progress and they have a whole description of how they want the sex to be and how they want me to drag it out.
The whole time I'm telling her that I have to raise the price and they become all flirty and drop....25$ for two pages, all of which they want to be my best quality and done in a weeks time and specifically drawn after what they want, with the details they want. "By the way holiday I'm picky about sex scenes." "Send me an invoice over paypal.........FUCK ME.
Most people that don't draw themselves I guess think that it's just some fun thing sometimes that we artists just whip out of thin air, that it doesn't take time and effort and that minimum payment is fair. Working 8 hours for 15$ in one day isn't fair, being demanding and changing up what you want in a commission and then changing it up again all the while trying to get me to lower what I'm asking isn't fair. And, asking for a comic even if it's a page and being picky about it, wanting quality in an insane amount of time is ridiculous.
I understand that I've done a bunch of comics lately but they have been my ideas.....fun things that I've done for myself when I've had the time, and the comics that haven't been or the pictures that haven't been for the most part I expect to be able to ask what is fair to me. I'm not someone that want's top dollar but think of it this way.
This commissioner wanted 2-3 pages of detailed comic work, completed in 4-7 days for 25$. (a page usually takes me at least a day usually if I'm on a roll.....8-19 hours roughly, do the math...what is that per hour?) Didn't bat an eyelid......
Maybe I'm weird or maybe things have changed......I'm new to commissioning in a lot of regards, I ask for money first and sometimes I've been dumb enough to trust but it's been far and few between. That said though....really?...........
Anyways sorry for posting this rant but I'm pissed, really pissed off and floored. I've wasted a good amount of my day because of this issue. Maybe I'm an asshole but if I'm going to get fucked up the butt it'll be a pleasurable way that I choose, not with my livelihood in the balance. Since when did it become a crime to get paid as an artist?
2 years, 4 months ago
28 Jan 2017 11:06 CET