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dmfalk

I'll leave you with this thought....

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Would anthro birds eat omelettes?

d.m.f.
(And no, I'm not leaving you, just leaving a thought with you... ;)
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Added: 8 years, 11 months ago
 
moyomongoose
8 years, 11 months ago
If they were egg substitutes.
dmfalk
8 years, 11 months ago
....You might be surprised.... ;)

d.m.f.
Andybanez
8 years, 11 months ago
why not? unfertilized eggs are not.."alive"..

right?
dmfalk
8 years, 11 months ago
*nod* I'll be letting Harmony explain it all tomorrow.... ;) (And it's part of why it was taking so long to develop her...)

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CyberCornEntropic
8 years, 11 months ago
Their own species' eggs or any eggs?  Because you leave open a lot of possibilities.

Lots of non-birds produce eggs, although most are probably not suitable for consumption as we think of the term.  Fish, amphibians, reptiles, and monotremes spring to mind, and some of those are eaten by real life birds (and humans).

As of birds, there's still a wide range of possibilities.  If it's a world where sapients and non-sapients coexist, then an anthro chicken (for example) might have little problem with eating a feral chicken's eggs.  Or they might find that disgusting.  It would be the similar to a human eating the meat of a monkey.  Some would be okay with it, but others would be horrified.  However, an anthro chicken horrified at eating a feral chicken's eggs would most likely have little problem with making an omelet out of a feral duck's or feral ostrich's eggs.  (In this case, the ferals are assumed to be non-sapient.)

If you're thinking of an anthro bird eating another anthro bird's eggs, be it that of another species or their own, that would depend on culture and individual.  Some might consider it heinous and barbaric, even if the eggs are all unfertilized.  Others would consider another species' eggs okay, but forbid the consumption of their own.  Some probably wouldn't care if one ate their own species' unfertilized eggs and the layer was okay with the consumption.  It's kind of like a human drinking human milk.  Most in our society would be disgusted by it, but a few have been okay with it.

In a culture such as ours here in the US, I'd think it would be frowned on as most people would argue there's too strong of the possibility of cracking open the egg of an underdeveloped chick.  Accidental abortion, anyone?  Of course, others would argue that the differences between a fertilized and an unfertilized egg are too obvious, even for an idiot.  (And who knows?  The chick of an anthro bird would develop differently from that of a feral bird, so maybe it's not an abortion but a preemie instead.)

In any case, a bird eating her own unfertilized eggs would be an acquired taste and even a bit of a kink, much like a mouse slugging down her own milk in tea.  She'd probably more open to swapping her eggs with another bird's (even one of her own kind's) just to have a degree of psychological distance from her meals.
dmfalk
8 years, 11 months ago
" CyberCornEntropic wrote:
Their own species' eggs or any eggs?  Because you leave open a lot of possibilities.

Both, most likely...
" Lots of non-birds produce eggs, although most are probably not suitable for consumption as we think of the term.  Fish, amphibians, reptiles, and monotremes spring to mind, and some of those are eaten by real life birds (and humans).

Pretty much covers the majority of species, since only mammals are live-birth.
(Caviar, comes to mind, as an egg product consumed by humans, not coming from birds...)

" As of birds, there's still a wide range of possibilities.  If it's a world where sapients and non-sapients coexist, then an anthro chicken (for example) might have little problem with eating a feral chicken's eggs.  

Quite true- They would be regarded as separate species...

" Or they might find that disgusting.  It would be the similar to a human eating the meat of a monkey.

Or just regarded as a byproduct...
 
" Some would be okay with it, but others would be horrified.  However, an anthro chicken horrified at eating a feral chicken's eggs would most likely have little problem with making an omelet out of a feral duck's or feral ostrich's eggs.  (In this case, the ferals are assumed to be non-sapient.)

In my worldverse, that would be true... (The non-sapient part...)

" If you're thinking of an anthro bird eating another anthro bird's eggs, be it that of another species or their own, that would depend on culture and individual.  Some might consider it heinous and barbaric, even if the eggs are all unfertilized.  Others would consider another species' eggs okay, but forbid the consumption of their own.  Some probably wouldn't care if one ate their own species' unfertilized eggs and the layer was okay with the consumption.  It's kind of like a human drinking human milk.  Most in our society would be disgusted by it, but a few have been okay with it.

I'm leaning to the latter in this case, although in the context of anthro birds being a distinct minority, rather than a majority that RL birds are in our world, and are quite aware that the majority anthro mammals are either bewildered or disgusted with the notion that birds do eat eggs.

(A friendship between Amy and Harmony follows this awkwardness, mostly because Harmony wants to offer Amy her eggs, and is afraid Amy wouldn't understand.)

" In a culture such as ours here in the US, I'd think it would be frowned on as most people would argue there's too strong of the possibility of cracking open the egg of an underdeveloped chick.  Accidental abortion, anyone?  Of course, others would argue that the differences between a fertilized and an unfertilized egg are too obvious, even for an idiot.  (And who knows?  The chick of an anthro bird would develop differently from that of a feral bird, so maybe it's not an abortion but a preemie instead.)

Or a society that might restrict distribution of unfertilized eggs of anthro birds because of ignorance.
" In any case, a bird eating her own unfertilized eggs would be an acquired taste and even a bit of a kink,

*looks at Harmony*
" much like a mouse slugging down her own milk in tea.

20 years ago, I was working with a fellow furry writer on a story, never completed, with just that premise...
 
" She'd probably more open to swapping her eggs with another bird's (even one of her own kind's) just to have a degree of psychological distance from her meals.

A more acceptable route, to be sure... Only that Harmony isn't average..... :O

A few years ago, i was conceiving a story idea where someone went to a planet of egg-laying creatures, with both bird and mammal attributes (though not as distinct as a griffon), and that it was a tradition of offering a freshly-layed egg of their own to a visitor, and that it was an insult to refuse....

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CyberCornEntropic
8 years, 11 months ago
" dmfalk wrote:
Pretty much covers the majority of species, since only mammals are live-birth.
(Caviar, comes to mind, as an egg product consumed by humans, not coming from birds...)

A few sharks also do live births.  I'm not sure about other families of animals.  In any case, caviar was the primary non-bird egg food I was thinking about.  (Doggone it, Chip 'n' Dale!)

" Or just regarded as a byproduct...

I don't see many humans as wanting to drink the milk of a monkey, either. :o

" In my worldverse, that would be true... (The non-sapient part...)

Mine, too, actually.

" Or a society that might restrict distribution of unfertilized eggs of anthro birds because of ignorance.

Wouldn't be the first time or the last. :\

" 20 years ago, I was working with a fellow furry writer on a story, never completed, with just that premise...

I know.  I wrote a vignette based on your concept. :p
 
" A more acceptable route, to be sure... Only that Harmony isn't average..... :O

"I love eating my babies!  A-hah-hah-hah-hah!  ...Kidding." :p

" A few years ago, i was conceiving a story idea where someone went to a planet of egg-laying creatures, with both bird and mammal attributes (though not as distinct as a griffon), and that it was a tradition of offering a freshly-layed egg of their own to a visitor, and that it was an insult to refuse....

Which would guarantee a story-generating conflict if the visitor considered the offer of the egg to be an insult. :p
dmfalk
8 years, 11 months ago
"
" Or just regarded as a byproduct...

I don't see many humans as wanting to drink the milk of a monkey, either. :o

And yet they will with cow, sheep, goat, horse, buffalo, ox, yak, camel, llama and alpaca....

"
" Or a society that might restrict distribution of unfertilized eggs of anthro birds because of ignorance.

Wouldn't be the first time or the last. :\

Given that most people are unaware that many (most?) birds do lay unfertilised eggs on a routine basis (though not as prolific as chickens) and that birds do eat eggs (their own and others'), I wouldn't be surprised. (Part of my delay in creating Harmony had to do with the research on these two facts.)
"
" 20 years ago, I was working with a fellow furry writer on a story, never completed, with just that premise...

I know.  I wrote a vignette based on your concept. :p

;)
 
"
" A more acceptable route, to be sure... Only that Harmony isn't average..... :O

"I love eating my babies!  A-hah-hah-hah-hah!  ...Kidding." :p

Moreso that she's already grown up with accepting what happens, doesn't like to waste, needs the protein (1-3 pounds a shot does take some replenishing!), and that there are tasty ways to prepare eggs... ;)

"
" A few years ago, i was conceiving a story idea where someone went to a planet of egg-laying creatures, with both bird and mammal attributes (though not as distinct as a griffon), and that it was a tradition of offering a freshly-layed egg of their own to a visitor, and that it was an insult to refuse....

Which would guarantee a story-generating conflict if the visitor considered the offer of the egg to be an insult. :p

War breaks out, eggs are tossed, shell shock everywhere! ;)

d.m.f.
CyberCornEntropic
8 years, 11 months ago
" dmfalk wrote:
And yet they will with cow, sheep, goat, horse, buffalo, ox, yak, camel, llama and alpaca....

There is a degree of psychological separation there though.  Beyond being nonstandard for milking (and most likely too hard to milk anyway), monkey are generally a bit too human-like for many people to take.  Related would be my analogy of an anthro chicken not being okay with a feral chicken's eggs but fine with a feral duck's eggs.  But humans have wacky cuisines anyway, so, eh.

" Given that most people are unaware that many (most?) birds do lay unfertilised eggs on a routine basis (though not as prolific as chickens) and that birds do eat eggs (their own and others'), I wouldn't be surprised. (Part of my delay in creating Harmony had to do with the research on these two facts.)

So, basically, mammals would have more trouble with the concept than birds do.  Even if the mammals ate feral eggs, anthro's egg could disgust them.  There wouldn't be enough of a degree of separation due to the sapience issue.

" War breaks out, eggs are tossed, shell shock everywhere! ;)

Eggs-actly. :o
" "Alas, understanding can come at a steep price.  Two hundred of your years ago, my people attempted an alliance with Qual'sais, another powerful nation of our world.  As was sometimes customary, our emirate at the time offered the freshly cooked eggs of his wife to the visiting Qual'sai archon.  To us, this was a great honor.  In some respects, it is like a female sharing herself without the improprieties of out-and-out adultery.

Unfortunately, the Qual'sai took this to be a grievous insult.  To them, the archon had been offered the worst of offal.  Naturally, the archon refused, thereby insulting us as well.  The alliance promptly collapsed and war broke out, lasting for, I think, nearly eight of your years.  Even today, our cultures have little to do with each other.  To many of us, they're stomachless plucks.  To them, we're– well, considering the company, I shan't repeat it.  It's quite vulgar.

It has been long debated whether the offer was an error in judgement or a deliberate insult.  I lean towards the former myself.  Emirate Nihaan was more plumage than brains."
dmfalk
8 years, 11 months ago
" CyberCornEntropic wrote:
" dmfalk wrote:
And yet they will with cow, sheep, goat, horse, buffalo, ox, yak, camel, llama and alpaca....

There is a degree of psychological separation there though.  Beyond being nonstandard for milking (and most likely too hard to milk anyway), monkey are generally a bit too human-like for many people to take.  Related would be my analogy of an anthro chicken not being okay with a feral chicken's eggs but fine with a feral duck's eggs.  But humans have wacky cuisines anyway, so, eh.

Even within the primarily European culture of our own country... :O
"
" Given that most people are unaware that many (most?) birds do lay unfertilised eggs on a routine basis (though not as prolific as chickens) and that birds do eat eggs (their own and others'), I wouldn't be surprised. (Part of my delay in creating Harmony had to do with the research on these two facts.)

So, basically, mammals would have more trouble with the concept than birds do.  Even if the mammals ate feral eggs, anthro's egg could disgust them.  There wouldn't be enough of a degree of separation due to the sapience issue.

A premise I have for how Harmony deals with life amongst mammals, in fact, and how it affects her friendships and relationships....
"
" War breaks out, eggs are tossed, shell shock everywhere! ;)

Eggs-actly. :o
<Snerp!>

And I got you to write something! Egg-cellent! :)

d.m.f.
CyberCornEntropic
8 years, 10 months ago
" dmfalk wrote:
And I got you to write something! Egg-cellent! :)

Eh, egg-sistential egg-nst has been depressing.
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