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Chapter 16 : Another Sister

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Loi Krathong
[Pony OC] Loveless Nova
Chapter 15 : Promoted
Chapter 17 : Past Sins
To beloved older sister: I am your sisters too.

I may someday be evil
I may someday be bad
I may someday make a mistake
I may someday make you hurt.
I understand that you might not forgive me.

I can not fix what I've done.
I can not change what I've been before.
But I can choose what I will be from now on.
And I will do everything to make up for my sins.

So please ... someday.....Sometime.... Please look at me as your sister too.....

English Editor : https://dracoblair.deviantart.com/

Keywords
mlp 44,746, love 16,010, magic 11,115, filly 3,982, moon 3,831, luna 1,916, celestia 1,238, paper 1,205, nightmare 990, guard 716, royal 692, immortal 203, mortal 86, origami 57, nmm 39, reincarnated 37
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Type: Picture/Pinup
Published: 4 years, 8 months ago
Rating: General

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FrostbiteTiger
4 years, 8 months ago
^_- i never did like that Celestia....
SophieWolf
4 years, 8 months ago
Awe Poor NM *Wraps wings around her giving her a hig* I will b your sister if u want Nightmare Moon :3
Windmutt
4 years, 8 months ago
Wow, what a hypocritical bitch
AstralFrankie
4 years, 8 months ago
Why is she hypocritical?  
Windmutt
4 years, 8 months ago
Got dissed all the time by her lover, now she pulls the same stunt on her own sister
Skellitor301
4 years, 8 months ago
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Ryusett
4 years, 8 months ago
Poor nightmare moon maybe she needs a friendly pony to go shopping with
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
the only thing that lets this comic down is the engrish, we really need a better translator than google so the foreign artists do not have this trouble
vavacung
4 years, 8 months ago
But I already use Proofreader! Why? What wrong with it again?.

............I'm so tire to hear comment like this.....to hurt......I will never be good....

.......
codenamespero
4 years, 8 months ago
=_=" Ignore it man...I assured you nothing wrong with it.....Thou/we humour is well done if you ask me.
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
is English your second language? how could you miss it?...
codenamespero
4 years, 8 months ago
That's correct. XP And blast...*facepaw* How did I miss shall....

What I meant is...if you want artist to correct it, you might want to specify what to correct.
Because the first comment you can sound 'hating' even though you didn't meant it that way. >_>
shadowfox79
4 years, 8 months ago
Yeah like codenamespero said.. just ignore the bad comments ..
I'm sure we all understand that using a language that someone isn't native too can be a bit challenging when writing a story..

I'm sure that a lot of us simply really enjoy your story as is ..
If there are rough patches with sentence structure I'm sure the more experienced writers will simply help out with a kind helping hand..

Besides the English language is hard as is even with correct spelling :)
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
bad comments? i was on the side of the artists saying we need better translators to HELP them... i have nothing against the artists i just wish we had better ways of translating
shadowfox79
4 years, 8 months ago
Dear Derpy,
If you felt that i was attacking you i apologize ..  it clearly wasn't my intent to do so..
Although I do think that we as a community could be a bit more supportive of writers who are struggling with a language that they are not accustomed to.. even if it's a persons second language..


and to vava
As for a proof reader (the software not the person) as some people might know a lot of grammar programs
especially the online ones are not up to the task when it comes to checking creative sentence structures
and more often then not they check a sentence word for word and it only checks if that word is spelled correctly making them mess up if the program has to choose between two positives..

If the proof reader for the script is yourself then it might be useful for you to have another person who has a good understanding of the English language read the script with you and have them ask you questions on what you want to convey to the reader or give you tips on what would fit better in the flow of the dialog.

And the last thing i can give as a tip is just to never give up.. you will get better at the written English language the more you do it.. it's a learning experience just like drawing.
vavacung
4 years, 8 months ago
My proof reader is person. I send my script  to him and he help me correct it.

I'm not good with  English language. It's hard for me to explain to my proof reader or watcher. what I really want to say. Because I don't know what word I should to use. since 1 English word have many meaning. Use in different situation...different  time...different place....different  person...Hard to understand...

And since I'm not good with English....When my proof reader already fix English for me....I can't know it already correct or it still have incorrect....It's best or worse....Because I don't know how it right. How it wrong...

So I have to trust in my proof reader. That he already complete English...Trust he already fix it best....I don't know how the script look like when it complete correct....I just don't know...Bad grammar...Worse Grammar...I don't know

I will never understand in English. No matter how hard I try....
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
you will never be... the hell? all i said was we need better translators, i didn't say you were bad in any way shape or form. as for your proofreader, i recommend you ask them to check it more than once or have someone else do it as they missed something pretty obvious.

"We hit midnight plaza Sister Luna" is the sentence in question, it should actually be "We will/Shall (depending on how you want her to sound) hit the midnight plaza"

or if you want it to be in even better English then the whole sentence should be changed to "Would you like to join me for some shopping at the midnight plaza?" putting "sister Luna" at either the beginning or the end.
vavacung
4 years, 8 months ago
Edit follow your advice now. Thank you.
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
you're welcome! glad to see i was able to help.
ChveRothe
4 years, 8 months ago
Actually if you think about about someone can say "We hit midnight plaza Sister Luna." and still be correct because it's not always going to be a sentence, they could be saying that they are going there, as in they have already planned it ahead of time. So you might want to think of all the different ways something could be said or taken before trying to correct someone as no one is perfect, hell my 1st language is english and I have typos from hell and back again.
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
if they were already going then they would not say "we" because after stating that she then decides to ask luna to go with her so it would still not make sense. try again.
NeonPinkFeline
4 years, 8 months ago
Your English is perfectly fine. I've never had a problem understanding it, and nor should anyone else when an IQ over 12.   If people are complaining about your English, they are doing it just to be mean. Pay no attention to them dear.
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
yeeeaaahhhhh so when someone makes a mistake they should not be corrected? how would anyone learn? and besides the artists took my advice and updated the picture without any problems, i would recommend reading the rest of the comments before jumping to conclusions.
NeonPinkFeline
4 years, 8 months ago
I did read. Your advice may have been sound but your presentation was that of a sixth grade bully.  You make your words sound condescending, and the tone in which your words are read when typed is very negative. When persons view the comment, they make the only sense they can of them, being that of a negative remark about their efforts.

Second point, you failed to point out the grammatical mistakes at the start of your comment. First and foremost, this is the most important thing when any English professor corrects and grades any paper submitted by a student. Simply telling the student they have something wrong and not pointing it out until after the student becomes upset is about as useful as a band-aid is for cancer. Which is exactly what you did here. You failed to make specific notations at the start, displaying what was wrong and making possible suggestions.

Third point, I don't believe you have an English Major. As noted by punctuation errors, grammatical taboos, and an abundance of taking offense when people not that your comments were "bad". Offended is merely a way for people to say they can not control their own emotions and require others to cease any and all emotional and logical operation while they are present to avoid upsetting their own imbalanced mental state. Before correcting anyone else's grammar, please learn how to use it yourself.


Your original comment made almost no sense unless taken as a remark against his or her ability to use the English language.



Before you start screaming this is me hating on you, I would like to point out that I have said nothing derogatory toward you, your work, or your person. I have merely pointed out the flaws in your argument, made suggested corrections, and noted how your argument will fail to counter anything I have stated. To answer your question before it is asked, yes I do have an Associates of English Literature. I am a certified editor, and I am going to further counter your arguments on this particular subject. I believe that when people write, they can make things to the best of their abilities. Yes there should be programs out there with better translating capability, however I honestly think we lose part of the value and power of the writing by translating like that. I saw the original and this version of this page. It was readable, easily translated by anyone that has studied English and most of us were not bothered by it.

Now on to this little Gem:

White knights... oh how i Loathe them
So... i commented on a comic, i said that the English isn't perfect and how we need a better translator than the ones we have now, google translator is HORRID so we need a fixed version or an entirely new one.

The artists responded with "oh i hate these comments! i will never be any good" cry cry blah blah...
so then the white knights arrived, telling the artist to ignore me and then spam my PM's with hate messages.

yup... free speech and constructive criticism is going down the toilet. we cannot say anything these days without someone jumping down our throats...

also this is the first day back that i can post images! so i will be posting a few soon. nothing amazing as i have been having problems so i couldn't get on.

ok rant mode disengage.
back to being happy and blocking more and more morons.


First and foremost, you did NOT state that the translator was horrid. You just said there needs to be a better one, and you said it in a very poorly posted manner.

Second: The artists responded with "oh i hate these comments! i will never be any good" cry cry blah blah...
so then the white knights arrived, telling the artist to ignore me and then spam my PM's with hate messages.
If you cant have the decency to say it where they can read it, don't say it at all.

Poor grammar all over that Journal. Try Spell and Grammar check. Its free on Google.
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
Tone? it's the internet there is no tone. when you read a message and try to add tone or emotion to that message then you are simply deluding yourself. when i typed that, i had no "tone" in mind. i was simply stating my opinion in an orderly fashion.

as for the second point, nobody can tell if an artist is aiming for that type of speech, such as with Luna, someone could say "thou? why not 'you' ?" but because the artists wanted the character to speak in such a manner then there would be no point in correcting them. i awaited a reply that would state either how the characters we supposed to sound like that or to question which part of it is incorrect.

a teacher would edge a student to figure out their own mistakes and when they cannot then the teacher would correct them. unless your teacher was lazy or simply failed his/her students.

Third point: hehehehe wow you already resorted to calling me names? well as i have already stated, i am all for free speech and opinions but when an opinion is based solely on emotion then the whole system breaks down. while it is true that i am no English major but that is because in my country there is no such thing as an English major, it is American.
as for me taking offense? hardly, i have corrected people who believe i meant offense but aside from that no i do not involve my emotions over the internet, too pathetic.

when i said that internet translators are failing to help the foreign artist, how is that saying that the artists is bad at English? i am saying that the translators like Google translate, cannot translate well enough.

and as for me screaming that it's a hate speech? i cannot see evidence that i have done so already but besides that point, you feel you have to defend yourself before i even reply? It seems more likely that you fear anyone will disagree with you, to which i feel sorry for you, If nobody disagreed then the world would be a bland place indeed, criticism helps us learn.

As for your little intrusion into my journals, i find it funny how you believe yourself to be so high and mighty and yet stoop to such a level, truly pathetic.
as for the spelling? I am British. we spell words differently to you Americans, I am sorry that our culture must get in the way of such an important person such as yourself but i assure you there are many ways to spell certain words.

Now if you'll excuse me, paying anymore attention to a person such as yourself will only dull my day further.
vavacung
4 years, 8 months ago
Yes....Learning from mistake. Everyone learning from mistake. It's right thing.
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
exactly! it's nice to see someone actually understand what i am saying.
NeonPinkFeline
4 years, 8 months ago
And you are indeed correct. I was wrong. And I am sorry. I took out on you my own stress.  My attack was vicious in nature and malicious in intent. I am sorry.
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
thank you. all is forgiven! nobody should hold grudges anyway!

everyone's now happy!
MrDrake
4 years, 8 months ago
"Engrish"
You can't say a thing
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
actually i can, for you see i have vocal cords, a tongue and a mouth and as such i can speak perfect English.
MrDrake
4 years, 8 months ago
" DerpyDooReviews wrote:
actually i can, for you see i have vocal cords, a tongue and a mouth and as such i can speak perfect English.

It's a figure of speech idiot
Also, you probably can't speak perfect English
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
Oh deary me! Such anger! Why oh why would you insult me? Was your brain unable to comprehend that perhaps i knew what you meant but i simply mocked you? Well obviously you could not. Oh and i am British, i grew up around the English language and my heritage is solely based in Britain so i'm pretty sure i can speak perfect English.

Now begone peasant! i have much better things to do then return banter with someone the likes of you
MrDrake
4 years, 8 months ago
If I was raised in Japan, I would be able to write perfect Japanese? No.
Also, what is 'perfect English'? That all depends on your dialect.
The very fact I can argue with your about your stupidity, is a testament to me NOT being a 'peasant', why do I call you an idiot? You misspelled the name of the language you claim to speak perfectly.
Try again.
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
*Ehem* well to retort in order:

I said i could speak perfect English, i didn't say i could write perfect English.

A peasant is not someone who cannot argue so your logic there is flawed.

"Engrish" is a term used to describe the English language that is spoken through a foreign accent, it's based on how some Japanese who have a thick accent cannot pronounce "l"'s correctly and so they sound like "R"'s

Once again, i am ever so sorry that your feeble mind cannot comprehend what i have been saying to you, should i "dumb it down" for you?
MrDrake
4 years, 8 months ago
"peasant
ˈpɛz(ə)nt/
noun
noun: peasant; plural noun: peasants

    1.
    a poor smallholder or agricultural labourer of low social status (chiefly in historical use or with reference to subsistence farming in poorer countries)."
-Google
And if you actually read what I said (which you obviously have not), you wold know there is no such thing as perfect English. Period. No arguing. Maybe I need to dumb down to your level
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
*ehem* "The very fact I can argue with your about your stupidity, is a testament to me NOT being a 'peasant'" - a quote of you.
you stated that because you could argue with me that it meant you were not a peasant.

and actually perfect english is obtainable, it simply means that you speak english as it is supposed to be spoken, no slurs, no text speak, just perfect english.

how could you not even know that? hehehehe someone obviously doesn't even understand what they are saying
MrDrake
4 years, 8 months ago
"it simply means that you speak english as it is supposed to be spoken" how is that? The way Americans do? The way people from Gloucester do? That's what I mean, because of all the different dialects there is no 'right' way to speak English, and this applies to nearly every language
Also,it wasn't about my arguing with you, it the fact it's being done over the internet, something a 'peasant' would not be able to do
Now, I'm going to do the mature thing and ignore idiots like you who don't bother listening to the other persons arguments and stop here, so the comment section isn't filled you us being idiots
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
To be honest the only right way of speaking any language is the way the country it originates from speaks it, if you want to speak perfect french then learn it in France, perfect German? spoken in Germany, perfect English? spoken in England.

The Americans speak a different type of English, they also write words differently, for instance; say "Aluminium" if you think this is spelled incorrectly and pronounce it "aluminum" (Aloo-min-um) then you are either American or speak American-English.

I hope you understand this or i have just been wasting my breath talking to pure incompetence.

Oh! and "isn't filled you us being idiots" - quote of you.
I'm glad you realised you are an idiot, it saves me the trouble of insulting you.
MrDrake
4 years, 8 months ago
A. Dialects
B. You failed to notice I also insulted you
DerpyDooReviews
4 years, 8 months ago
Oh dear i thought you said you were bigger than me? that you would never reply to me again? well i guess the average peasant cannot keep their word for any longer than a day...
Oh and i must say your intelligence has to be rather low if you did not understand what i was doing, as i was obviously twisting your words to make you sound like you were insulting yourself.

And by the way, do not bother replying as i am done with imbeciles.
Zanerus
4 years, 8 months ago
And my heart strings once more
jonhskitsune
4 years, 8 months ago
Wow, way to go trollestia! =xx
Can't you even give people a chance?

Amazing comic by the way! =3
AstralFrankie
4 years, 8 months ago
To be fair, NMN did take over Luna, try to bring eternal night (twice), and banish Celestia to the Sun.
rayhiros
4 years, 8 months ago
Heartbreaking
jorun1981
4 years, 8 months ago
Awwwwww poor Nightmare Moon. *hugs her*
SleepyVaporeon
4 years, 8 months ago
I know that feeling, it hurts... a lot. It's unfortunate Nightmare Moon is still hated by Celestia :c

"Pain to the World"
Rakaziel
4 years, 8 months ago
Seems like Celestia needs to learn a friendship lesson. Or Nightmare goes shopping on her own.

I see what you did with the plant :D Great Idea!
zenoshikage
4 years, 8 months ago
One thing I dislike about Luna is her use of Archaic English.  I never sure when to use thou, thee, thy or thine.
shadowfox79
4 years, 8 months ago
Awww poor Moony .. you know what ..

She needs is a close friend of her own to pull her out of that depression ..
Like uhmm maybe someone from the night guard.
Or maybe Twilight will help her out and we will get a MLP style life lesson story arc about family and blood being thicker then water where Celestia will learn to accept and forgive Nightmare moon..

Just throwing my 2 cents in the idea jar..
dragonmasterpony
4 years, 8 months ago
wow what a bitch
KirbyChan
4 years, 8 months ago
Yeesh, you know it's Celestia's fault Nightmare Moon's there in the first place. The least she could do is thank her for helping out while she selfishly abandoned her duties.
SleepyVaporeon
4 years, 8 months ago
I agree with you on this~
MrDrake
4 years, 8 months ago
Poor NightMare Moon
Celestia is such a bitch
She seems to forget that she made Luna run equestria on her own because she wanted to go after her love
For, like 18 years
clsaa651
4 years, 8 months ago
One would think Celestia would remember it was her neglect combined with other ponies fearing her night that caused Nightmare Moon to come into existence in the first place and that being cruel to the one who gave up being evil to aid Luna while she abandoned her sister and equestria to go after someone she loved.
LatinoOso1965
4 years, 8 months ago
I think is time That Nightmare Moon should have someone to take her to places and have a great time with him or her I think Blueblood, Fancypants or maybe Big Mac,or maybe Twilight, Pinkie, or Rarity ia is being so unfair to NMM to this point.
DarkAngel1986
4 years, 8 months ago
Is it any wonder why Nightmare Moon hates Celestia so much?
NeonPinkFeline
4 years, 8 months ago
You know I have always loved moon as a sort of misunderstood pony. I think we all have our own alternate universe, where Moon is a good person.

Even in my own side stories moon is a good one. I cant wait for the next page,
LupinFrost
4 years, 8 months ago
Lol. love that luna is playing a Pony Gelding DS. kind of a sad pic, and I can relate to it a little (being the outcast in a family of 4 and the foster son who couldn't quite fit in with the rest of the siblings) Great work.
marinus18
4 years, 2 months ago
why is Celestia constantly 'sister luna'
kitsuneismything
4 years, 1 month ago
I didn't read all of the comments about the use of English but I just wanted to commend you for using the correct 'YOUR' as many people who speak English don't understand that "YOUR" and "YOU'RE" are different words so, I salute you!
kitsuneismything
4 years, 1 month ago
P.S. loving the comic :D

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