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Most but not all. Some are the same. Other has details changed to fit the AU. Some just didn’t happened.

From what I remember, in OG Cannon, Angel Island and Time Travel tends to only effect Knuckles and Silver respectively. Angel Island was basically grounded Sonic and Adventure (the 2 games that featured Angel Island the most.) And Time Travel is just their to explain Silver’s involvement. Even then, he is likes Waluigi in Mario side games.

Here are some of the plots that aren’t canon to the AU: that slap from Archie, Generation, Unleashed (due to what I said about the Werehog.) Zombot saga, and 06 of course.

Those are some on the top of my head. You can ask about pacific plot in the AU.

Chaosprog2

2 months ago

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How did the events from Adventure 1 play out?
Or any of the advance games?
Do the aliens from the Archie comics that caused earth to become Mobius still exist?
Does maginary world still exists?
Will some form of the sweepstakes happen?
Is clutch even a character in this?

Does Eggman still create Sage? (She's my 3rd fav character so I really need to know)

galestar01

2 months ago

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1. I will hold on answer due to Tikal. (I might spoil Tikal's VN story if I talked)
2. Yes. 2 the have have Cream, and she is a major character in the AU.
3. No. (Thought the idea would be used in some fashion)
4. All locations from the Sonic games, Archie, IDW, and Freedom Planet exist in the AU.
5. Maybe.
6 Yes, just never been the focus of any story yet.
7. Yes. Like Clutch, Sage has yet to be a focus in any of the stories.

galestar01

1 month, 4 weeks ago

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I could tell you this, since Knuckles' father is in the AU, he was the guardian before Knuckles. He passed away shortly before the events of Knuckles' VN.

galestar01

2 months ago

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Also, I’m not focusing on just the Main canon. I’m also using both Archie canon, Underground, X, Fleetway, and Freedom Planet canon.

ItalienischerHansMaier

2 months ago

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Suggestion: Angel Island doesn't float anymore, because the phantom ruby was stolen by Eggman way earlier and secretly, it was the source of Angel Island floating. If I remember correctly, in sonic Mania, Angel Island sunk after removing the phantom ruby, but in Knuckles Lava Reef Zone,we can see that the Master Emerald was not stolen. In the intro you can see Angel Island in the ocean.

galestar01

2 months ago

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It is actually the opposite. In Mania, the Phantom Ruby being on Angel Island was the reason it stopped floating. The P.Ruby was never on Angel Island before Mania. It just shows up there. This kick-starts the events of Mania.

Nice idea, but for this AU.

ItalienischerHansMaier

2 months ago

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I thought the egg robos in the beginning were digging out the Phantom Ruby. But considering the Canon Sonic Forces prequel comic reveals that the Phantom Ruby just was on the ground, ready to get picked up by Eggman so he can start his plan ... they didn't really think the Phantom Ruby through. Also Infinite's a normal mobian in the comic and episode shadow,but a robot in the base game??? I think,at this point, the story writers just gave up. I unironically actually want an official IDW adaption of mania and Forces now that fixes all translation errors and stuff and explains everything better. But it seems that full game adaptations are dead. It's a shame, because I think the archie sonic unleashed adaptation and even the adventure 1 adaptation were really fun. It felt more like an proper AU in which Antoine is in Sonic Adventure. But IDW tries to be Canon, and that's somewhat negative in my opinion, because the games will alway have priority and I don't think they would be allowed to contradict the games in any thing,while the old adaptations of course added so much characters and lore to their own. And Antoine.

galestar01

2 months ago

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They never said Infinite was a robot. Nor that imply it. It's been a while since I last played the game, but I remember that much.

The Egg Robo is digging the Phantom Ruby because it randomly shows up. Also, it was the Phantom Ruby in the prequel comic; Eggman named it so.

I don't want to ever touch the Forces story again. I hated Forces for so many reasons. For the record, they changes writes after Forces. Out of all the 2010 Sonic games, it is my 2nd least favorite. The only good thing it did was being the jump-off point for IDW comics.

IDW has an easier time being canon over Archie because, in IDW, every game up to Forces already happened. Verus Archie, the game events happen during the comic. For example, Knuckles' first comic contradicts the games. Plus, an event that only happened in the IDW comic was already mentioned in the games.

ItalienischerHansMaier

1 month, 4 weeks ago

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In the last level of the base game, the crew said: so that's where infinite was created?,and Amy replied: what a horrible place to be born!

Yeah, I also hate Forces. In fact,so much, that it took years for me to finally read IDW, because I knew it would be a continuation of the Forces storyline, which I didn't wanna revisit. Fortunately, IDW didn't repeat the mistakes of the story and it's way better than expected.

galestar01

1 month, 4 weeks ago

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That corrected. However, being created doesn't mean robot. Being born could be metaphorical. Plus, from their point of view, those are assumptions.

ItalienischerHansMaier

1 month, 4 weeks ago

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Yeah, they could refer to this being the room where infinite got his mask and Name,but how should they know this? It's also an factory and due to the way it's written, it sounds as if Infinite is a robot or an artificial lifeform like Shadow. And after the first boss fight against infinite, Sonic taunts him by saying he's better than robots.

It's probably an translation error. Fun fact : the German voice actor for Dr Eggman,who voiced him in sonic x and generations onward,died in early 2016,but still voiced Eggman in Forces. He really sounds sick. But if they had all voice lines ready in 2016,what did they do in 2017? Only marketing? Fancy cgi cutscenes for trailers instead in game? Everything about forces feels so rushed, which it probably was in many aspects.

galestar01

1 month, 4 weeks ago

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It makes sense why someone would think that Infinite was a robot. Might need to check the Japanese script.

My biggest problem with Forces is Classic Sonic. This is coming from someone who likes Mania.

ItalienischerHansMaier

1 month, 4 weeks ago

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The biggest problem about mania was that the game play was fantastic, but a lot of the game is derivative of classic sonic. But it has at least a bit original content.
Then classic sonic enters forces for more shoehorned references and no interesting original content.
I don't need to explain why this sucks,do I? Both games being connected only hurts mania and doesn't help forces's at all. It just gets more forgettable.

galestar01

1 month, 4 weeks ago

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I go on a rant about Classic Sonic in Forces, but I don't want to. Too much energy.

ItalienischerHansMaier

1 month, 4 weeks ago

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Let's agree to not talk about Forces anymore, please. What else is to say more than "wasted potential", and "it's bad" at this point?
Better subject: do you have an infinite 3d model? Would you include infinite in your AU?

galestar01

1 month, 4 weeks ago

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