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A while back I watched through the entirety of Squirrel And Hedgehog, the North Korean cartoon whose more recent episodes did the rounds in memes and fan art. Turns out NK used to have a goodly animation industry, and stuff for domestic audiences was partly used to train animators for profitable outsourced work.

The early episodes are charmingly crude, but I noticed a tendency to be more willing to draw characters' bare feet as the art and animation quality progressed over time, rather than it being nothing but boots. After all, a brave squirrel can't nimbly climb trees to defend his homeland against weasels, foxes and field mice* without the aid of his toes ;3

By https://www.furaffinity.net/user/orinthia

*who are honestly a lot more characterful and charming than the good guys!

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Published: 6 months, 1 week ago
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nelson88
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Very cute!^^
grencapra
5 months, 3 weeks ago
Thanks 💖
nelson88
5 months, 3 weeks ago
My pleasure!^^
ShySketch
3 months, 3 weeks ago
"Godly" is a bit of a stretch xD

It's kinda cute... but the animation isn't very good.  They still watch the WW2 era classic Disney movies over there, "none of the new stuff" lol~
grencapra
3 months, 3 weeks ago
Goodly, rather than godly x3 They were able to put out some surprisingly high quality stuff for other countries (like a French animated movie called Gandahar), but the stuff for their own audience seems like it was pretty crude and used to train animators for stuff that would earn money.

You can gauge the slow increase in art/animation quality in Squirrel & Hedgehog by their willingness to draw bare feet more often instead of everyone wearing boots all the time.
ShySketch
3 months ago
" grencapra wrote:
Gandahar.


I think I got fave bombed or something because I missed ur comment.  I need to check this out.  Thanks for the recommendation.

"An English language version was directed by Harvey Weinstein and produced by Bob Weinstein through Miramax Films, with the translation revision done by noted science-fiction author Isaac Asimov."

Yup, definitely checkin' this one out~! xD

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I didn't know squirrel and hedgehog was being made until 2012.  You're right that it got a lot better.  Weird style on the newer ones, looks like they used Caillou and Invader Zim as their style inspiration.  Quite the mashup.  It's a shame they can't draw their own guns or the guns of any other country.  I think the last decent western toon with gunz is Darkwing Duck. :B
grencapra
3 months ago
I was struck watching through them by both how the baddies are so much more characterful than the good guys, who often look identical within the same species. That and the strange tonal disconnect at times between "gritty" military stuff made by a culture that wants to train kids up to be effective soldiers, while also having them think that hopping up in the air and kicking two people in the head simultaneously is a thing that works XD

Reminded me of how US agents sent to train anti-Soviet fighters in Afghanistan had to try and teach people that they need to actually freakin; aim their weapons, not just spray wildly and watch the enemy fall over dead like in the movies.
ShySketch
3 months ago
The bad guyz in the later episodes seem like furry style Invader Zim.  I think the Caillou designs of the main characters are because they didn't want to change the style from the original 1977 version?  I don't like the rounded heads and tweening in anything related to the characters is a sin.

I just meant that they literally can't even draw their own guns, the AR platform of the "bad guys" is hardly recognizable by its carrying handle.

Poorly drawn guns in cartoons is almost worse than no guns at all.  Some of them are akin to drawing a car with square wheels and the steering wheel in the trunk.  These are simple pieces of machinery hundreds of years old
grencapra
3 months ago
As a Britbong raised on Warhammer and goofy sci-fi I'm less aware of bad gun design, though I did just watch a show from the 60's where a WW1 machine gun was imitated by an open tube wide enough to put your fist in with a disk magazine stuck on, which is a bit too much of a stretch!

I'll go for a cuddle and foot rub session with the two main mice baddies over any of the good guys any time uwu
ShySketch
3 months ago
I mean you can learn all the visible gun parts just by playing Escape From Tarkov for a year xD  Take a look at any youtube vids of "builds" for the guns in that game.  Example : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AcQWbw56YQ

However, guns are very, very old technology.  It's a pipe with a nail to strike the primer or the rim of the casing.  The gas or blowback is used to move the parts so that the empty casing can be extracted and replaced with a new one.

https://youtu.be/6W8vABhmcF4?t=1023
In this ^ video, at 17:05 you see that the entire stock and buffer tube from the "AR" is missing.  The carrying handle is also the rear sight for ARs, but the front sight post is above the handle making it useless.  At 17:07 when the camera angle changes but before the character leans, you see the same gun drawn completely differently, somehow worse.  After it becomes visible when the character leans back, you'll notice they drew it in the exact angle where it the entire gun is just a bar/rod in his paw.  oof
grencapra
3 months ago
I was disappointed when I found that a needle gun didn't actually shoot needles X3 Ten shots a minute from a Martini-Henry will be sure to put the wind up a gaggle of barefoot hunky Zulus ;3
ShySketch
2 months, 2 weeks ago
I am now about 2/3rds the way through watching Squirrel & Hedgehog in full for the first time with subtitles.  I previously tried to watch this show about ~10 years ago without subtitles and only watched a few of the early episodes.

I am now convinced that this show is my all-time top 5 favorite furry animated shows.   At worst, top 10.  The animation itself varies a lot in quality, but how the whole thing "comes together" is very impressive.  I also love the willingness to draw violence and death.

What the show may sometimes lack in quality or logic, it makes up for in its charm and varied style.  It is extremely unique, while somehow being familiar.

I am also now convinced that Sonic the Hedgehog is a ripoff of this series, Squirrel & Hedgehog.  Explains a lot~!
grencapra
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Gotta go fast if we want to fortify our hill!

(Also a timely reminder that when I get art of a marten he should totally be wearing spats uwu)
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