If i was giving up i would be staying or stopping art all together. I'm not giving up, so i'll support galleries who don't support AI by psoting there.
This site can be turned into AI garbage for all i care.
If i was giving up i would be staying or stopping art all together. I'm not giving up, so i'll suppo
Fuck yes! I hope more artists follow your example! If the admins want a website full of soulless data pollution then that’s what they should get. You’ll be better appreciated elsewhere. Good luck!
Fuck yes! I hope more artists follow your example! If the admins want a website full of soulless dat
yeeeaaa, I don't feel much excitement posting here these days x^x The constant admin "fuck you" stance is a little soul-destroying. They seem pretty happy that all of our content has made a perpetual Theodor Seuss-like machine that spits out modified clones of our work and then call me "entitled". To put it lightly, the whole thing is disgusting.
yeeeaaa, I don't feel much excitement posting here these days x^x The constant admin "fuck you" stan
so people who can't draw any art becuse of a art block or have a big problem holding a pen or brush or any thing like that, should never use there brain and computer to make any kind of art ,
its like telling people who use a weelchair , ohyou cant shop any stores , and yeah it is the same thing ,,,
better grow up you and any one els is serounded by AI , its in you phones and more , i feel bad for people like you realy i do , just becouse some one uses something diffrint and you dont like it ,, to bad for you . ttfn
so people who can't draw any art becuse of a art block or have a big problem holding a pen or brush
Stop using people with disabilities as an excuse for you grift. There is artists who use their mouth to make art, and they are better than me (Like Henry Fraser and Jessica Jewett)
Now have a talk with them, and see how it go.
Edit: And don't bother replying, because i know you are not being honest, and i will immediately delete your message.
Stop using people with disabilities as an excuse for you grift. There is artists who use their mouth
Literally!! I have a lovely irl quad amputee friend who loves to draw and is not a fan of ai - she feels using it would take her individual touch away. Disabled folk aren't silly, they will absolutely find other ways to accommodate and make unique new methods if it means they themselves can have some input. (We were researching together custom made prosthetics that were specifically designed to hold pencils and other tools, even to work with musical instruments - it's absolutely going to get much better. Even for those who only communicate via eye movements - we can expect VR and eye tracking systems to give them more creative ability) a lot of these people just care about quick results but not the process. Creating art, even when it's not 'good' to some is incredibly therapeutic and the finished product is a sense of accomplishment.
Literally!! I have a lovely irl quad amputee friend who loves to draw and is not a fan of ai - she f
lmao generative AI is not art, it's a bruteforce search of denoised details using diffuser models. It doesn't take years of practice to become good at using search (like, prompt engineering). The only reason you call it art is because it literally looks like art made from an actual artist, just like the bullshit ChatGPT generates literally looks like something that an expert could have written.
The people you cite don't really generate "art" with generative AI anyway.
lmao generative AI is not art, it's a bruteforce search of denoised details using diffuser models. I
I just want to say I absolutely cannot stand you as a person. Every time I see you comment on anything it’s the most braindead, single-digit IQ shit I’ve ever heard in my life. Comparing infrastructure for the disabled to a computer program that rips off the hard work of thousands of artists while giving them nothing in return is beyond idiotic. I hope some day you mature enough to feel shame.
I just want to say I absolutely cannot stand you as a person. Every time I see you comment on anythi
Yeah I wouldn't blame you. Just sucks that IB's disgusting support of AI aside, it's like the only real art site with a blacklist system. I can't really follow people anywhere else without being exposed to things I don't want to see while here I can follow someone and know im just gonna see guys and not gals so long as uploads are tagged correctly.
Yeah I wouldn't blame you. Just sucks that IB's disgusting support of AI aside, it's like the only r
E6 has it's own tons of problems that keep me from using it. A heavily censored and highly inaccurate tagging system by design cause of bad rules makes any blacklist it would have irrelevant. If my stuff was on there I couldn't label my own character as a cboy for instance, gets auto converted into a different inaccurate tag since they don't like them. Or like how they make feral have to get attached to zoophilia tags.
And I could be totally wrong since I'm assuming but I figure E6 would be another AI spamfest
E6 has it's own tons of problems that keep me from using it. A heavily censored and highly inaccurat
Doesn't IB require certain keywords be attached to a submission so you can blacklist them and filter them out if you don't want to see the content? Seemed like a fairly even-handed policy tbh.
It's all a pretty cut-and-dry policy, the people who want to engage with it can, and pretty easy to ignore it otherwise. I'm sure there are people who aren't following the tag rules, but that's to be expected of any policy.
The people who support AI art are not the people who are looking support the arts, and by extension, the artists, in the first place, and likely as not were never going to be queuing up to get commissions and whatnot from non-AI artists. It's the same idea as pirating a movie; if someone is willing to pirate it, they were probably never going to fork over money for a legit copy in the first place.
Also BlueSky, Twitter, and as far as I can tell, Weasyl, have no regulations on AI arts content, so why are you also not packing up there as well?
Doesn't IB require certain keywords be attached to a submission so you can blacklist them and filter
If i'm in the same room as a group of people who like to shit on the floor, it doesn't matter if someone clean it up before i can smell it. I'm leaving the room.
Bluesky and Twitter are not galleries, they are not specifically made to support artists, and i need them to reach people outside my gallery circle. They are the "evil" i need to deal with. But i don't specifically need Inkbunny when there is other galleries available where people can follow me to. They are the "evil" that oversell it's use.
Weasyl have no regulation, but no rules that say they accept it either (correct me if i'm wrong). The day they officially accept it, i'm gone (Or more likely one year later when i'll find out randomly)
If i'm in the same room as a group of people who like to shit on the floor, it doesn't matter if som
People for sure post AI art on Weasyl. If there's nothing that stops users from doing so, then by default it's acceptance on the part of the site runners, isn't it?
Using Twitter and BlueSky as a "necessary evil" as a means to an end is interesting with the morality you're applying to IB. Social media platforms get more exposure, but allow AI, so it's acceptable to, ideally, get you more exposure, but still call Twitter and BlueSky "evil". It's kinda cherry-picking the ethicality of one over the other, and undermines your objections a bit.
People for sure post AI art on Weasyl. If there's nothing that stops users from doing so, then by de
As i said, Twitter and Bluesky are not galleries, they are not made for artists specifically. And if it wasn't for work, i would probably not use them (Twitter for sure, nowadays), but i don't have other options.
But InkBunny is a gallery website, it was made for Artists, and now they flip off artists. But what they seems to miss is that they are not essential, there is other options who respect artists. So i'm gone.
As i said, Twitter and Bluesky are not galleries, they are not made for artists specifically. And if
AI spam is not made in good faith ever. The people that upload that trash do not respect the rules and I have to CONSTANTLY block/ban-submissions/report accounts for not following any. IB having rules about how to tag and label AI spam means absolutely nothing especially when they are incapable of enforcing any of the rules. They need to accept that it cannot coexist with real art here and just ban AI.
AI spam is not made in good faith ever. The people that upload that trash do not respect the rules a
u think ur little 1-person boycott will make a difference? AI is everywhere ur running away from it, but where you go, it will come there eventually sites that dont adopt to it will be left behind so what will u do? keep runnin till there's no where without AI left? and then? at least on Inkbunny peeps can block ai_generated tag like me AI is getting better very quick, but i still prefer living person to do art. AI is supposed to take over bad jobs, like garbage and mining, not art in my opinion- this pretend-outrage, self-rightous grandstanding act achieves nothing keep making good art, and post it. ask ur followers to block ai_generated, and keep posting we need more real art not less good luck whatever choice u make
u think ur little 1-person boycott will make a difference? AI is everywhere ur running away from it,
Weird to oscillate between a mildly insulting tone and naive encouragement, but okay.
If you expect me to bend over just because something shitty seems inevitable and i'm alone on it, you don't know me.
And thanks, i will indeed keep making good arts and post it. But not here. Don't worry i'm sure the AI prompters are totally gonna make this website great and amazing.
Weird to oscillate between a mildly insulting tone and naive encouragement, but okay. If you expect
Honestly they just need to quarantine AI images to a section that you can choose to make invisible. It's so annoying that AI takes up so many slots in the Popular section. People who use AI as a substitute for artistic skill should not be rewarded with front-page visibility.
Honestly they just need to quarantine AI images to a section that you can choose to make invisible.
AI generated images should just not be accepted on a Gallery websites. This is a website supposedly for artists (and their fans), it's not Instagram or alikes.
AI generated images should just not be accepted on a Gallery websites. This is a website supposedly
Interesting to see how divisive Gen AI issue is. While I still find myself opposing Gen AI, I do appreciate the approach InkBunny took in regards to it, I think it's a rational and balanced approach (which was their initial response and may change with time) to a technology blowing up. Though I certainly understand why you'd disagree to the point of leaving.
Disagree that IB is supporting and disrespecting artists by simply allowing it to exist under some more restrictive rules, but I assume for you simply allowing such images to exist is already an act of support and malice towards artists. I personally don't see it this way, bur hey, views differ. I still believe Gen AI is net-negative due to environmental impact as well as some ethical concerns.
Interesting to see how divisive Gen AI issue is. While I still find myself opposing Gen AI, I do app
LMAO, Ink Bunny's rules on uploading AI generated images is terrible. The rules encourage prompt-spam because anything that takes actual effort (cough, in-painting) can't be reduced to a prompt text file.
Use one image generator to gen a pose, then img2img that to turn the modeled poses into furies, then in-paint to get rid of bad anatomy? Can't upload it to IB because there's no way to share the prompt details: the Acceptable Content Policy says to "attach the workflow JSON" but not every AI generator UI offers this (looks like it's ComfyUI and only ComfyUI).
Used Bing to generate that base image? Can't upload to IB because it's a closed source model.
And oh yeah, because artists who are still alive are the majority of furry art, can't use any LoRAs that were built using any furry data. That's right, can't use the Sergal LoRA to generate birds.No,we don't care that it looks good, it uses a LoRA that was trained on a species that hasn't existed for 25 years.
Find me the best AI generated image on the site and I can find one that's better just by hitting up the starboard on Furry Diffusion.
I totally understand the reasoning behind InkBunny's rules, it is just one of those things where the only way to comply is to generate the garbage that everyone thinks AI generated images are. It's like offering people money for rat tails: rather than exterminating rats, they breed them.
LMAO, Ink Bunny's rules on uploading AI generated images is terrible. The rules encourage prompt-sp
I deleted about 7 years of past art in protest. I made a big stink about it earlier this year and the staff told me to get bent 👍
With the "cub site" being the only furry art gallery to support AI, and this site's users just gobbling it up, it really paints a shitty picture of this corner of the fandom. There's no future in it.
I deleted about 7 years of past art in protest. I made a big stink about it earlier this year and th
I can't even be bothered to deleted my gallery. Also i think people might see my stuff, like it, see i left and go there instead to see what the new stuff is.
So that might make people leave InkBunny. (I already got quite an increase in Watches elsewhere)
I can't even be bothered to deleted my gallery. Also i think people might see my stuff, like it, see
It's pretty depressing seeing how far AI art has been taken now, especially in that there's so, so many scammers selling it without disclosing it as AI and peoples art being run through it without their permission. It feels disrespectful. I think a lot of it boils down to people wanting quick results but not caring for the actual process behind it all, and struggling to see why artists feel hurt by it. I am not surprised by the mass exodus from certain sites, and I hope you find a happier place elsewhere. It sucks - there's a few other communities out there who are very adamant to not allow AI which is nice. I worry about all the potential commissioners who scour sites for artists and end up spending money in that stuff not realizing what it is. On the plus side, at least they seem to push people to tag their work as AI so it can be at least filtered out by other users.... But that in itself is a trust exercise for the people posting 🫥
It's pretty depressing seeing how far AI art has been taken now, especially in that there's so, so m
At least you're on the right track here: Blame the people that are being scumbags for being scumbags. Yes, AI image generation has (in some ways) made it easier, but it's not the AI image generator that made them a scumbag. They were a scumbag first and just found a new way to grift money out of the easily duped.
What's hilarious is that most of these folks making money off AI generated images aren't even generating the images themselves but stealing them from other places. It's no different than any other art thief, except that they're justifying it because AI generated images don't have copyright, forgetting that that means they can't sell it either!
At least you're on the right track here: Blame the people that are being scumbags for being scumbags
It's never a good idea to allow AI generated images, anywhere. Even if you can "filter it out". It will devolve into just mass post of shit, and bad people coming in to join the party. In my experience, all Pro-AI are the Elon-NFT-Crypto fans kind of people. Massive liars, aggressive, disrespectful, and get really hurt when you call their shenanigans/grifts.
And you don't want that kind of people around. Gallery website or not.
It's never a good idea to allow AI generated images, anywhere. Even if you can "filter it out". It w
That's exactly my experience too - I honestly just wish it was all not allowed, but it seems to many sites struggle with that even when they try. FA is constantly overwhelmed with AI uploads despite it being banned, both by grifters who don't disclose it trying to scam folk and just people who don't care about the rules :( I hope there's an easier way to moderate in the future, ideally force-tagging or blocking the upload altogether through a detection system would be great, but I hear many detection sites are also unreliable. The tech in general imo should never have been released to the public before the legalities for it were prepared. ( I'm also surprised they don't seem to have their own communities other than Twitter and image boards when it's not other art sites - I don't know about you, but I don't even relate to AI artists in any way like when talking to another artist. It's like a completely alien language.)
That's exactly my experience too - I honestly just wish it was all not allowed, but it seems to many
I applaud this decision. Every day I block and ban another user with disturbing, dead generated pictures who calls themselves an "artist". As if typing a bunch of keywords into a text box is artwork. Witness this amazing artwork I'm drawing right now!
The sooner IB bans AI garbage, the better. If every actual artist leaves and there's nothing left but automated copyright infringement, it'll suck for us, but IB will die a well-deserved death, so it's a lose-win.
I applaud this decision. Every day I block and ban another user with disturbing, dead generated pict
Your call, but AI artwork is just that, it's AI artwork. We know it's AI artwork, and AI artwork doesn't get the same respect as what actual artists can do. Throwing a tantrum and leaving the site just because a form of artwork on here exists is really petty. I get that it's frustrating, but at the end of the day, genuine artists have, and will always maintain more respect from their fans than those who strictly use AI. Doing this just means you concede defeat in a fight you didn't have to be in. You're an artist, do your thing, let your fans enjoy, and vent a little when you need to. But this, is an overreaction, one you'll probably personally regret as AI artwork starts appearing on other sites too. =/
Your call, but AI artwork is just that, it's AI artwork. We know it's AI artwork, and AI artwork doe
Considering this is the only site I know of that has a good infrastructure AND allows cub art in both traditional and ai forms, I think inkbunny is at least trying to accommodate everyone. At least I don't have to worry about c p shit posting here or excessive spam.
Considering this is the only site I know of that has a good infrastructure AND allows cub art in bot
Frankly inkbunny goes above and beyond to segregate AI art. It is required to be tagged and the source prompt published.
It sounds like you want AI art to be literally illegal everywhere. Which it isn't. That's just not the world today. Barring that you are entitled to full use of the soapbox. It has not historically done much.
Frankly inkbunny goes above and beyond to segregate AI art. It is required to be tagged and the sour
