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Zoe's Initiation
Noelle and Her Daddy
Recently I redesigned Gwen to make her look a little less like Angie. While giving her a makeover I decided to design her brother and father too.

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Type: Picture/Pinup
Published: 2 years, 8 months ago
Rating: General

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v3e5
2 years, 8 months ago
Nooo, I liked her initial design which matched her attitude well.
monkeycheese
2 years, 8 months ago
I kinda can't believe anyone cared.
v3e5
2 years, 8 months ago
Well, just saying that for years me (or we all) got used to your Gwen with how she initially visually was matched with her attitude & all was fine. Now looks like we have to scrap all what was before & take Gwen as if she initially was like how you have her now.  Unless you can say it's still the same Gwen but she changed herself regarding hairstyle, make up, clothes...
monkeycheese
2 years, 8 months ago
So some fair points there. I didn't exactly explain what changes she went through and why I did them.

Biggest reason was that she really had the same body/face as Angie which was really bothering the hell out of me. I really try to avoid slapping a different hair helmet on the same body/face and calling it a new character.

Gwen is essentially the same character as she was before. I did end up drawing her a little older looking because that's how she likes to present herself and can be explained with a sudden growth spurt. Now she's trying makeup and clothes to make herself actually look a little older than she actually is so that core part of her character is still there. She's still naive as well, putting make up on doesn't make you any more worldly.

Another reason I made the change was her mother. I wanted Gwen to share a few more traits with her mother, who was designed way after Gwen was created.

The only big personality change I want to implement is make her curse a little more but that's a natural evolution of her character. I already had her do this from time to time but didn't make it part of her regular speech to make it stand out. She'll think that it makes her sound more mature when it actually doesn't. :D

Sorry you don't like the new changes, sometimes I have to make changes to characters to keep them interesting to me or to take them in the direction I want them to go. I don't get a ton of feedback so it's hard to gauge what exactly people like or dislike about what I do. This is the first time in awhile that I've gotten any significant negative feedback outside of the occasional anatomy things I screw up from time to time.

Please do continue to make constructive negative comments, I appreciate them and they help more than the positive ones these days.
v3e5
2 years, 8 months ago
Nothing negative, just kinda uncomfortable when for years it looked like you have a solid design & was making pics with it, yet suddenly all of that was wrong & doesn't matter now because this new design is how she meant to be.
Honestly, I like Angie but didn't like Gwen when you started making pics of her - grey hair (granny?) & more like Angie's sister indeed. But we got used to it & some were very nice works like those pics of her in the shower I remember.
However this new design actually is quite good as it does match her "mature", rude, disrespectful attitude & her "Gwen" name (never liked it as it sounds harsh & unpleasant).
Guess we'll just have to get used to it.
Btw, regarding anatomy - I keep noticing that if it's lolis then you make their bodies seem like "flat pillows" than how it could have been drawn if correctly.
monkeycheese
2 years, 8 months ago
Right I gotcha. I can see how that can be disconcerting when I change things suddenly like this. It was really all that sudden for me because I've been thinking/toying with the idea for a long time.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying about the anatomy. Are their bodies too flat in general? I mean I do simplify things alot and in the past I've been accused of drawing the butts too big on my lolis.
mousecenary
2 years, 8 months ago
Gotta say I preferred the original design but I understand wanting to change it.
monkeycheese
2 years, 8 months ago
Again... really surprised anyone cares. :D
mousecenary
2 years, 8 months ago
I loved Gwen! She was always really cute to me
monkeycheese
2 years, 8 months ago
See the long ass post I made to v3e5 above as to why I made the changes I did.

And sorry you'll miss old Gwen but I hope you'll like and appreciate this new one.
PandaMouse
2 years, 8 months ago
Hummmm ^v^ looks like she got a little bit older and her dad and brother move in I was wondering who doing her mother! ^v^ Heeehe! Wonderful workand pic! XD
DarthRandall
2 years, 8 months ago
Boy, you can just feel the wage slavery weighing down her poor dad.  Hang in there, buddy.  I am sure you will be banging lolis in no time.
monkeycheese
2 years, 8 months ago
I'm sure that's what he's hoping for! :D
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