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PMD: Sands of IRON

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Type: Comic

Published: 3 years, 1 month ago

Rating: Mature

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Zeromegas

3 years, 1 month ago

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She is a True Fighter!

arigatofox

3 years, 1 month ago

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*boop

Amateur ;)

DocHollidayftb

3 years, 1 month ago

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can we kill it now >_>

Jewelwriter

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ DocHollidayftb

Yes SO much YES!

ratsrepuososim

3 years, 1 month ago

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yessss finally

Snowfirechakat

3 years, 1 month ago

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boom right in the noes

Shippo

3 years, 1 month ago

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I’m thinking he’s not out for the count just yet! But time will tell! Plus we don’t know if Shia and Loona are still in the cabin.

Clockiel

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Shippo

Raichu's ability is Static. Making contact with a Raichu is an extremely bad idea.

InfinityDoom

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Clockiel

One of Raichu's abilities is static, which means making contact might have a 30% chance to put a status ailment that has a 25% chance of doing something bad.

Clockiel

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ InfinityDoom

But it's more than zero, so he has a chance! :D

Sorry, I'm a big Raichu fan XD End up rooting for him, even when I probably shouldn't :3

Smuggred

3 years, 1 month ago

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horny bonk

Impkin

3 years, 1 month ago

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Makes me sad, all the people hoping for Rai's death. He's scummy, but also a victim, and he needs to atone for the things he's done. Death won't do anything for the people he's harmed, but hopefully being made vulnerable will help him realize that he needs to start down a different path.

That being said, I don't see the three of them remaining friends. Veera will probably be very uncomfortable with Loona's desire to kill her assailants and all others. Shia will have lost the trust his friends had in him. Loona wants to kill Shia, and will probably not care for Veera's softness. After all, she didn't even reach out to Veera or even think about her once.

Rylasasin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Impkin

"	Justl00kingaround wrote:
	Makes me sad, all the people hoping for Rai's death. He's scummy, but also a victim.

What.... planet did you come from?!

Impkin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Rylasasin

Victim of rape before going down this path. He said it himself when they were talking about spinning the wheel.

Rylasasin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Impkin

He never said that he was. You're just making shit up.

... And even if you weren't, there's little reason to believe him anyway. He's a known liar and manipulator.

... And even if it was true, well....

"Oh, I'm sorry you were raped as a kid. I'll go lighter on you when I sentence you for raping that person"
- t. No judge in the history of ever anywhere.

Impkin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Rylasasin

I never said he should be forgiven. I said I don't want him to die. No one deserves death. He should need to atone somehow for his actions, and it may never be enough. I agree with Shrewn's position about wanting the cycle of violence to end.

Rylasasin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Impkin

Shrewn means well, but he's an idealist. A utopian that ultimately accomplishes nothing. The only way he'd ever get what he wants is if everyone lives in a dystopian hive mind, which I'm sure even you will agree, is not desirable in the slightest.

Some people do deserve death, I am sorry to say. Because there is simply no other alternative. Rai cannot be redeemed. He cannot feel remorse for his actions, atonement is not possible, nor even desirable in his case. And as long as he exists, he is a threat to the innocent.

Impkin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Rylasasin

I... don't agree with your conclusion that what you suggest is the natural conclusion of Shrewn's ideals. Holding people accountable doesn't mean putting them to death, and electing not to doesn't mean that you would have to live in a hive mind for that to be possible. It doesn't mean letting them go without punishment, either, but a society that treats violence with violence will never become peaceful until essentially everyone is dead or one person or group amasses so much power than all others fear them. That's how the world of IRON currently works, as the nobles hold that power that the rest fear.

Rylasasin

3 years ago

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@ Impkin

"	Justl00kingaround wrote:
	I... don't agree with your conclusion that what you suggest is the natural conclusion of Shrewn's ideals.

Allow me to clarify: The problem with Shrewn's ideals is that it runs on a flawed premise. The premise that it is thoughts and ideologies that shape the world. This is the definition of 'idealism'.

This however, is materialistically and historically ass-backwards. It is not ideas that give shape to the state of the world, it is the state of the world that gives shape to ideas. The concept of 'human rights' did not come about because a bunch of people suddenly decided 'hey we're going to stop being shitbags now.' It came about because the material conditions arose that allowed these ideas to come about, and to make possible the struggle for such ideas to succeed.
Do you think it is coincidence that 'human rights', a concept almost unknown before the enlightenment, came about on the heels of the industrial revolution and the aftermath of World War I? Do you think it unrelated that the concept of anti-slavery, a concept that had only been tried (and failed) in parts of the world finally started to succeed on the heels of the steam engine? Why do you think that the most 'humane' countries are also the richest ones, while the poorer countries are either lawless hellholes or have to resort to 'authoritarianism' in order to crawl out of the dark pit of poverty? It's not because human rights creates abundance, it's the other way around.

This is why Shrewn is an idealist. And is useless. Because the world he wants is simply not possible at the present time, and will not be possible until it is technologically and socially possible. Which, sadly, will not be for centuries, if not millennia. He thinks he can create a peaceful world through the power of ideas. Something that is not possible. Something that will only become possible through struggle. And struggle is a blood-soaked path.

"	Justl00kingaround wrote:
	Holding people accountable doesn't mean putting them to death

It does in a world that has no other options that are laughably stupid or impractical.

(Cut for character length.)

Rylasasin

3 years ago

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@ Rylasasin

"	Justl00kingaround wrote:
	It doesn't mean letting them go without punishment, either,

Well, let me ask you then, what exactly in this world would you actually give them as a punishment? Don't think I haven't noticed that throughout this whole exchange, you haven't actually provided a solution.

Of course I think we both know the actual reason for this. Though, only one of us is really willing to acknowledge it: Because you don't have one. Because no such solution actually exists in the conditions that this world is in. I think the closest you came to a coherent 'solution' (though that's not saying much) is this:

"	but hopefully being made vulnerable will help him realize that he needs to start down a different path.

To which I can only say... This.

You forget, he was made vulnerable. He was vulnerable when Loona got the upper hand on him. And remind me how that turned out? Did he say 'hmm I could have been killed there? I should really rethink my life?'

No, that's not what happened, is it? The split second he was on top of things again, he was right back to his old self. Nothing that Loona or Brene or Verra could do could have a different effect.

"	(One of) The definition(s) of insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

And might I take the time to remind you that they are literally the only people that can and will do anything? The law in this world is corrupt and apathetic to the point of non-existence, so that quite eliminates taking him to the authorities.

So, letting him go unharmed or just beating him up won't do anything. The law is useless. The guild has degenerated into a sex trafficking racket, and is part of the problem. So what else is there?

Hmmm... perhaps we could cripple him so he cannot move while only crawling about on his hands, smashing his penis so he cannot rape ever again, and smash his throat so he can never speak again? ... hey, he'd still be alive and that's what matters, right? Plus, he is no longer a threat to anyone. Good job, mission accomplished!

... But is it really? No, of course not. We've simply replaced "being killed in an instant" with a life of living death. This isn't better than killing him. It's worse. Compared to this, killing him is a mercy. Cruel mercy, but still mercy nonetheless.

Life imprisonment? Well, let's ignore the simple problem of "who would do the imprisoning?" since we already addressed it, and focus on the problem. The problem with life imprisonment is that it is an elongated death sentence. Living your life in a jail cell is, again, a form of living death. And, I would imagine that in this world, such conditions of said cell are neigh-intolerable. It's no Denmark, that's for sure.
In fact, the real reason you give a life sentence instead of a death sentence is because legally speaking there's a chance that the convicted might be an innocent man, that the jury misjudged or that evidence exonerating the perp would come up later. If he's dead, you cannot release him from prison. If you give him a life sentence, you can.

... But we don't have to worry about that here, now do we?

Mind eraseal? Well, first off, good luck with that. That would be impossible enough to do in our own technologically advanced world, let alone theirs. But... fuck it, let's see an insanely powerful psychic type pops right out of nowhere and mind wipes him? Makes him forget every memory he ever had. Perfect solution right?

Is this really any different from killing him, though? Is this really not violent? Allow me to paraphrase the 10th doctor:

"	Everything I am dies. Some new man goes sauntering away.

True, you've spared the meatsack. But you've instead killed his being, killed everything he ever was. And the creature left, is someone else entirely. No different really.

Mind control? ... let's not even go there.

Impkin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Rylasasin

https://inkbunny.net/s/2344270 Also, just wanted to link this as support for Rai having been a victim in the past.

Rylasasin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Impkin

I have one of the tags (male/male) blocked on my end.

At any rate, the only thing I can say to Rai is...

Boo fucking hoo. Time to die.

Impkin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Rylasasin

Then you're passing judgment without even knowing the full story, and I think that's sad.

Rylasasin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ Impkin

Okay so I have removed my tags temporarily and went back and read it. And now I know everything that went on between him and shia.

I don't think he deserves to die.... quickly.

He deserves to die extremely slowly, in as excruciating of pain as possible. Brazen Bull, Iron maiden, or burning comes to mind. But since I'm one for efficiency, quickly would have to do.

The fact that he was raped is lamentable, but that just makes his current actions even more heinous, and said actions in light of his past makes him less, not more, redeemable.

Rai's life is NOT precious. Rai is the very definition of irredeemable, and evil like him cannot be rehabilitated, only destroyed.

phoenix100

3 years, 1 month ago

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Raichu is not a victim. lmao

eat him brene

Impkin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ phoenix100

https://inkbunny.net/s/2344270 A reference to his victimization. This doesn't excuse his actions. I just don't want the punishment to be death. Life is precious.

Rylasasin

3 years, 1 month ago

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@ phoenix100

Exactly. He's nothing but a psychopath that deserves to be put down like a rabid dog.

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