EVERYONE I DON'T LIKE IS A NAZI by ZeloxQuo < Submission

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Reiko

7 years, 3 months ago

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Fanart of me? Oh, Zelox, you shouldn't have.

No seriously, you shouldn't have.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Reiko

Inspired by your actions, yes. But of you, no.

Also, why unblock me just to comment? That seems strange.

Reiko

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ ZeloxQuo

I haven't unblocked you, silly. Inkbunny's banning system is just weird and I can comment here unless *you* block me. And apparently you can comment to anyone on your own submissions. Weird, huh?

Also, uh, you must think we're a bit stupid because this is obviously my character? Come on, be honest. I know it's hard for you, but give it a try.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Reiko

Oh wow. That is a really unique blocking/site system.

So I guess this is my space, and I am blocked from your space, but you aren't blocked in my space. And since you are commenting in my space, I control things in my space. Ohh wow. That is really strange. But very interesting as a site layout.

It was inspired by you and your actions. But it isn't you. That is accurate and factual. Not only do you not have a reference sheet, but the colouring was chosen for a particular reason, and it isn't because your face in your avatar is blue. It actually represents something. But, subtle. Heh. So yeah, there is a lot more going on here than you think.

Also. It would be nice if you stopped harassing, defaming and vilifying me. I have detailed your harassment and your ongoing lies and defamation of me and my character in depth. All you have done is misrepresent me, lie about me, and defame me for the purposes of vilifying me.

I don't know why you chose to target me and lie about me to the extent you have. But it is very strange indeed.

"	Come on, be honest. I know it's hard for you, but give it a try.

It seems that you enjoy defaming people and presuming to know things about them, while making yourself sound and seem superior. I understand that it might be hard for you to understand that it isn't nice to bully and harass people who are different to you, but it would be very good for you to give it a try, as you say.

Reiko

7 years, 3 months ago

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Oh, but Zelox, I *do* have a refsheet. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/18344857/ As you can see, her breasts are totally the wrong size.

Also, as you may know, copyright of intellectual property is automatic and implicit, even if it hasn't been officially registered. I think the person to decide whether this is a reproduction of my character or not would be my lawyer, because I don't appreciate my character being used here without my permission. So you might want to think about how badly you really want to leave this drawing on a public website. I'll be in touch. Toodles.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Reiko

You are very odd. I will state again. Please cease your harassment of me and your ongoing lies and defamation of my character. Now you are threatening legal action for an artwork that the content of which was inspired by your actions, but the artwork itself is not of you. As I have stated numerous times now.

Furthermore, it, as I stated before. Isn't you. I know you might find this a hard concept to grasp. But, IT IS NOT YOU.

Not only, now upon seeing your reference sheet for the first time, looks completely different. Has a different body, has a different colouring, has different... everything actually. You must be rather... flawed in your understanding of law to think that this character here is a copy of your character there.

Not only that. But do you understand copyright law at all? Yes, copyright to the character is instant upon creation. That is the way that it works. But there is a lot more that goes into copyright than that.

This image.

DEFINITELY ISN'T COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT!

There are three fundamental requirements for something to be copyrighted, according to the United States Copyright Office (2008, p. 3):
- Fixation
- Originality
- Minimal Creativity

My piece falls into each of the following categories as outlined according to the United States Copyright Office (2008, p. 3) as follows:
Fixation:
- The item must be fixed in some way. The manner of fixation may be just about anything. My piece has fixation by being posted online, and stored on a computer.

Originality:
- The work must be original. This is an original work that I have created using traditional mediums.
- It is not necessary for the work to be completely original. Works may be combined, adapted, or transformed in new ways that would make them eligible for copyright protection. This piece was created using traditional mediums and then scanned into a computer, it uses no direct copy of any other copyrighted works, it is inspired by the 'Everyone who I don't like is an X' image that is common around the internet, and the actions of you. These were the inspirations that I used and it is, according to the law of copyright, an original work. This in turn is creating an original work.

Minimal Creativity:
- The work must include something that is above and beyond the original. Reference to the original work that is used to discuss a new concept would be considered original, however. There is reference to the original work, in that the original work is the 'Everyone who I don't like is an X' image, however it is referenced in parody of that image, and it is all created new in a new piece of original artwork.
- Creativity need only be extremely slight for the work to be eligible for protection. The law merely states this is "original works of authorship" (United States Copyright Office, 2008, p. 3). My work falls into an "original work of authorship" due to the method of production and how significantly the one referenced piece is in the image itself, it was only referenced by eyes and not copied directly. This again, means that my work completes the requirement for minimal creativity.

My original work completes all three requirements for it to be considered an original copyrighted artwork.

This threat of 'infringement of copyright' is false, due to my work being it's own copyrighted work under US law and it not infringing on any copyright of the original artworks holders.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Reiko

If however you do not accept my original copyrighted work, as being an original copyrighted work (even though under the US law it indeed is), then I can also point to Fair Use.

Fair use is the most significant limitation on the copyright holder's exclusive rights (United States Copyright Office, 2010, para. 1).

The purpose and character of the use:
- Is the new work merely a copy of the original? It is NOT simply a copy, it is a completely new piece and the character in it, as you are claiming it is somehow your character, is completely different to your character in every regard, design, size, colouring, limbs, gender (this one is male, you can see by the bulge).
- Does the new work offer something above and beyond the original? Does it transform the original work in some way? If the work is altered significantly, used for another purpose, appeals to a different audience, it more likely to be considered fair use (NOLO, 2010, para. 6). This piece is new and created by me.
- Is the use of the copyrighted work for nonprofit or educational purposes? The use of copyrighted works for nonprofit or educational purposes is more likely to be considered fair use (NOLO, 2010, para. 6). This is for nonprofit purposes, and is therefore more likely to fall into fair use accordingly.
- Is the work factual or artistic? The more a work tends toward artistic expression, the less likely it will be considered fair use (NOLO, 2010, para. 9). This is an artistic work for artistic expression, therefore is more likely to be considered fair use.
- Does the amount you use exceed a reasonable expectation? There is only reference used, the whole image is created new.
- Does the new work contain anything original? If it does, it is more likely the use of the copyrighted material will be seen as fair use (NOLO, 2010, para. 11). Yes, the entire image is something original to the other image, and to your character.

As is clear by the US Copyright Law, your claim is false that it is 'copyright infringement'.

Furthermore, if you fail to accept all of those conditions. There is also the Fair Use clause of Parody as well. Even though this IS NOT YOUR CHARACTER.

Just to let you know how totally and completely this is my own copyright, that is. And also, your continued harassment and threats of legal action are not appreciated.

Reiko

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ ZeloxQuo

You must not be very up on copyright law, Zelox, because fair use isn't an ironclad defense, it can only be proven in a court of law. Also, obviously your drawing would not be accurate to my character's body, because, by your own admission, you hadn't seen the refsheet, just my IB icon. Also, you already know I am trans. So giving this character a bulge and claiming that it makes them male is unconvincing. My character also has a bulge, something you can easily prove by looking up her nude refsheet.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Reiko

"	My character also has a bulge, something you can easily prove by looking up her nude refsheet.

"	Also, obviously your drawing would not be accurate to my character's body, because, by your own admission, you hadn't seen the refsheet, just my IB icon.

So. Which one is it? I saw the thing that I didn't see that has male genitalia and then decided to do the same. Or I didn't see it so I couldn't get a 'good enough copy' of your character? Your assumptions are getting more intense and bizarre.

"	You must not be very up on copyright law, Zelox, because fair use isn't an ironclad defense, it can only be proven in a court of law.

Uh-huh. You do realise that the FIRST section I was arguing was that it was my own copyright? You ignore that and then state that Fair Use needs to be proven. Well, no it doesn't. It has been. In countless cases.

Usually a matter such as your odd and extreme claims can be resolved well before court. But the FIRST point I was making was that this was my own original work, that in turn has my own copyright accordingly. But, if you didn't accept that I also provided all of the justification that it is Fair Use as well, which, even though it is my own original work and I don't need to use Fair Use at all because it is my own original work, I thought you would reject that, so I also provided evidence to support how you were still wrong even if you ignored my first point.

Your continued attacks against me, with no backing in logic and reason are flawed.

I would have more evidence supporting a case of libel against you for your repeated and ongoing harassment and defamatory remarks about me than you would have falsely claiming that this character (that isn't you) is somehow your character (which it isn't).

MistahToonCatUwU

7 years, 3 months ago

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Lmao he unblocked you? Sad, he only wants yo fight x3

I got my political cartoon ready to upload too

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ MistahToonCatUwU

Apparently not. Inkbunny works a different way to other sites.

Each user's location/page is their own page to control the happenings on/of.

So, they have me blocked on their page, I cannot comment or reply to them etc...

However, I do not have them blocked here, so they can comment, and I can reply.

It is very interesting.

However, again, if this was another page, and they left a comment, I would not be able to reply to the comment.

MistahToonCatUwU

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ ZeloxQuo

Oooooh, useful

Nadhari

7 years, 3 months ago

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Lovin' it. and sadly this is all too true now days.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Nadhari

Unfortunately yes.

When you don't like someone, falsely labelling them in an act of defamation and vilification absolutely makes your point!

Beowuffle

7 years, 3 months ago

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Dang man, This woman needs help. Its been almost a week and shes still going. Just take a few days off and a few breaths Reiko. Go and do something fun with your friends or family.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Beowuffle

Yeah, it is getting to the point of ridiculousness.

No idea why they have continued to defame and target me. But hey, this artwork where the content is inspired by their lies about me, but the artwork itself isn't of them apparently frustrates them a lot.

Not sure why though.

I mean, they do indeed call me, and others, a nazi, falsely.

I truly hope that they do have friends/family. And that they can calm down and realise just how horrible they have been to others.

Beowuffle

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ ZeloxQuo

She prevents me from replying by blocking and then asks for an apology. Thats basically 2017 in a nutshell. Its surreal

Anyway tell me this. why are you blocking people feining harassment and then proceed to continue talking/arguing with them?

I do feel sorry for your state of mind hun. Please seek behavioural therapy if you haven't already. If you have already please bring us up with your therapist and show our posts to them. The ones you haven't bawleted at least. It could be good to get the opinion of someone you turst to tell you your going about things the wront way.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Beowuffle

I feel sorry for them too.

Sure they continue the defamation and harassment of me, which I want to stop.

But... it is just sad. The way that they go about it. How personally they take everything. I truly hope that, if they are seeking help, they can get it.

Reiko

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Beowuffle

I'm so glad you're worried about my feelings, wufflekins. In fact, I had dinner with my family just over this past weekend. Believe it or not, I don't really devote that much attention to Zelox, whereas Zelox seems to be just a bit fixated on me. Perhaps if he could accept that he's not coming off the block list until he comes clean about his misbehavior, we can just put this whole thing behind us. That goes for you too, by the way. It's never too late to apologize, wufflekins.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Reiko

Perhaps if you stop lying about me, we can just put this whole thing behind us.

And frankly. I would like that. I couldn't care less about your block list. I care about lies and libel. Your defamation and continued harassment of me for no apparent reason. The way that you seem to be taking everything to be about you. This piece, the concept of it was inspired by your false accusation of me as a nazi. You then take it to be ABOUT YOU and USING YOUR CHARACTER, both of which is false.

Perhaps if you could accept that you shouldn't devote so much attention and time to me, so many comments, to much hate and harassment. Perhaps you could put the best foot forwards and come clean about your misbehaviour.

I mean just comment to me and apologise, explain how you didn't think it through, or whatever. Explain how your false accusations and defamations/vilification is a horrible thing to do.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ Reiko

It's never too late to apologise draggybabe.

Perhaps you should take your own advise: https://twitter.com/ShadowReiko/status/914159699473215488

"I absolutely will not condone harassment as punishment for misdeeds. That isn't helping anyone."

Yes you do. You did it to me. My misdeeds were that you didn't like me, and then you harassed me for weeks. Thankfully the staff noticed this and removed the 'public service announcement' you had put up filled with defamation and vilification.

It would be nice if you could be honest with yourself, and with others.

But hey: https://twitter.com/ShadowReiko/status/914157865413120000

"I think it's true that we can't force anyone to forgive, but I think *someone* needs to forgive."

You have been trying to force people to forgive for weeks now. Saying that they can get off your little list if they forgive. That is the definition of forcing someone to forgive.

Anyway. Other than that whole threat being a rather funny opposite to what you have been doing in actions. The purpose of this comment was actually something completely different.

The point of this, was that I was going to be the bigger man.

I forgive you for your horrible actions, for the repeated harassment and vilification.

You are, seemingly from what I can gather, an angry and frustrated individual.

I truly hope that you can relax, open up, and be more honest with yourself and with others.

Good luck with your life.

Reiko

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ ZeloxQuo

I have only ever pointed to evidence that's freely available for anyone to see. Your only defense, as far as I can tell is, 'but I'm not a white supremacist.' I don't believe you, and it doesn't rightly matter. If you find that there's nothing wrong with the things you've done, then you have to accept the consequences that some people might think you're a white supremacist, and my pointing that out is not harassment. I'm not trying to force you to do anything. You will have to simply accept that I (and probably quite a few others) will think you probably are a white supremacist, until you decide to change your behavior.

What's more, isn't it a bit creepy to follow my twitter like that? You've accused me of fixating on you, and yet here you are, digging through my twitter for things to throw back in my face, like a week after this whole thing had already been put to rest. Maybe move on with your life, like I have. Don't you have better things to do?

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ Reiko

"	I have only ever pointed to evidence that's freely available for anyone to see.

You haven't pointed to any evidence, because, well, there isn't any.

"	Your only defense, as far as I can tell is, 'but I'm not a white supremacist.' I don't believe you, and it doesn't rightly matter.

Yeah. My defence is reality. I'm not a white supremacist, because I'm not one. Kinda obvious reasoning there.

"	If you find that there's nothing wrong with the things you've done, then you have to accept the consequences that some people might think you're a white supremacist, and my pointing that out is not harassment.

You lying and stating falsehoods against someone, repeatedly, with no evidence to back up the damaging vilifying false claims that you are putting onto them. Yeah, that is pretty much the definition of harassment.

"	I'm not trying to force you to do anything. You will have to simply accept that I (and probably quite a few others) will think you probably are a white supremacist, until you decide to change your behavior.

Interesting concept. I suppose then, that because you post on furry websites, that people will probably think that you are a paedophile then? I mean, there have been paedophile rings found that use fursuits, and are active furries. So, I guess since the argument type is just to slander people with no evidence due to the actions of a limited few in the group that they belong, and to then run with harmful stereotypes.

I'm not going to use such a horribly flawed argument. I am just pointing out the argument type that you are using, and just how disingenuous it it.

"	What's more, isn't it a bit creepy to follow my twitter like that? You've accused me of fixating on you, and yet here you are, digging through my twitter for things to throw back in my face, like a week after this whole thing had already been put to rest.

No, it isn't creepy at all. I was curious, because I am curious about things. And I have been thinking about things quite a bit.

You bullied and harassed me for quite some time. Spreading lies and misinformation. Defaming and vilifying.

I know you might not entirely understand what it is like to be personally attacked for doing nothing wrong. Purely because of a group you are a part of, or something like that. But, there are many different coping mechanisms for stuff.

I have drawn artworks, like this one. To raise and address feelings/emotions. I also view a lot of different folks twitter, journals, all kinds of things. People who I don't agree with as well. Because I find it important to keep an open mind, to consider different views on subjects.

Sometimes I work through concepts, and how groups and folks are being treated purely because of the group that they are in, like this: https://inkbunny.net/s/1450223

Sometimes I also draw just to draw, and with a completely pointless subject like this: https://inkbunny.net/s/1451024

Or a rather small thing for a friend to make them smile like this: https://inkbunny.net/s/1451080

You bullied and harassed me. Lied about me, and kept doing so.

I decided, during the course of thinking about and through things. That I was going to be the bigger man and forgive you, for your, pretty horrible, actions. That was why I responded to you. To put those feelings of being bullied and lied about by you to rest.

"	Maybe move on with your life, like I have. Don't you have better things to do?

Well yeah. That was why I decided to forgive my harasser. Even though they probably wouldn't be able to understand. Because they are blinded by their own hate.

I have a lot of good things to do. With my life, family and friends. And part of that, was deciding to forgive you for the harassment, bulling and abuse you had done to me.

Hope that you have a wonderful life. : 3

Maulkin

7 years, 3 months ago

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*looks at the character it's inspired by*
*looks at the character*

Seems like a fairly generic dragon-girl thing with a different body type and color pattern. If that's all it takes to make Lefties have a 'tism storm, well, I see no reason not to continue XD

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Maulkin

Thing is, it wasn't even inspired by that character.

The inspiration of the content (the reason why I chose to use the rainbow meme, essentially) was that person falsely calling me a nazi.

After that, I just thought, eh'. I'll make a dragon. That sounds good.

Every aspect of the dragon, other than BEING A DRAGON is completely different. Different body type, different gender/sex, different colouring, different fingers/tows/wings/etc... every single aspect is completely different. The only similarity is that it happens to also be a dragon.

And yeah. Being the same species is enough to cause someone to not even all that subtly threaten legal action. Kinda crazy in my view.

Delrar

7 years, 3 months ago

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Nice art!

Could I request a follow up piece of this character in a nazi "antifa" outfit. While he's silencing "censoring hate" speech by assaulting "tearing down capitalism" and rioting "having a peaceful protest"?

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Delrar

I have constantly heard from the actual mouths of antifa, and those that support antifa that I will rephrase slightly here:
"Assaulting someone because they have the wrong views is self defense."

That, hitting and attacking with weapons, people who haven't done anything, is somehow self-defense, because to them they are a nazi/wrongthinker mentally that just seems completely broken.

And no, not going to make a follow up to this at all. Just going to get into other art at this point. But glad that you like it.
: 3

Delrar

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ ZeloxQuo

Was just memeing with the request.

I found it all pretty funny how antifa and communists are more closely related to nazis than the people they harass and label as nazis.
The second someone can justify violence and other obviously wrong behavior on a person/group/etc based on personal opinion is when they've lost their point.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 3 months ago

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@ Delrar

"	Was just memeing with the request.

Heh thought that you were, but I tend to... respond serious like most of the time.

And yes, antifa behave in a very similar manner to early nazis and other fascist parties. Using violence and fear as tactics so that only they/their people can speak etc... But the ones they label as nazis are often free thinkers and libertarian types, pretty much the furthest you can get away from nazis basically.

"	The second someone can justify violence and other obviously wrong behavior on a person/group/etc based on personal opinion is when they've lost their point.

Agreed. Violence should only be for self defense and competition. And that is all.

jerreh

7 years, 3 months ago

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this character has pink hair? I don't see the similarity. Nice art though.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ jerreh

That and every other aspect of the character being completely different as well.

But thank you. : 3

CaptainKenmason

7 years, 3 months ago

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Edited 7 years, 3 months ago by Owner

Alternately, "everyone i don't like is being shitty on this journal, see below"

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ CaptainKenmason

Hah, entertainingly accurate in my view.

NyotaMwuaji

7 years, 2 months ago

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Edited 7 years, 2 months ago by Owner

how very accurate of todays "OH MY FEELS! I NEED PUPPIES AND COLORING BOOKS BECAUSE OF A ELECTION EVEN THOUGH IM A COLLEGE STUDENT" mindset. good show sir. smack down those snowflakes!'

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ NyotaMwuaji

Hah, thank you.

And yeah, it is pretty accurate. Frustratingly so.

NyotaMwuaji

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ ZeloxQuo

in reference to the person trying to make this all about them? my bullshit sense is tingling. stop trying to play the victim card, no one is buying the shit you are selling little snowflake.

don't worry zeloxquo, some just have to make everything about themselves and play the victim. I see no correlation between this and that. legally you are in the clear.

ZeloxQuo

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ NyotaMwuaji

Yeah well. On this site I am in the clear. And legally I am clear. And morally I am clear.

On FurAffinity though the staff sided with my harasser, stating that this completely different character is obviously their character despite being completely different in EVERY regard except for being a dragon.

Lets see. Their character is an overweight dickgirl with huge boobs and dark blue colouring pattern. My character is a thin male with no boobs and a light blue, pink and white colouring pattern.

FurAffinity though, sided with them, and gave me a ONE MONTH suspension.

But hey, it is easier to side with a harasser against someone you don't like, rather than be logical about it.

NyotaMwuaji

7 years, 2 months ago

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@ ZeloxQuo

ah FA is very PC. siding with those on the side of PC even if it means turning on others.

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