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Doodle: Thunderbolt BattleMech
There’s a lot of feelings behind this but I think it's best if I leave it with no context.

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Type: Sketch
Published: 7 years, 5 months ago
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Blackraven2
7 years, 5 months ago
It's been years since I played MechWarrior.  First I thought it was a raven, but it's extremities are arranged too wide, the legs mounted too far front, the reverse knee joint too far down and its nose too narrow. I can't remember the raven having a nose mounted gun either (but armanent is always modular)

Is it some weird type of bastard field mod?


Edit: Never mind, found the reference. A Bushwhacker.   Never saw that one in action. Is that an inner sphere mercenary chassis?
ProjectShadowcat
7 years, 5 months ago
This is actually a Bushwacker. Debuted in MechWarrior 3 and MechCommander Gold Edition.
ProjectShadowcat
7 years, 5 months ago
It is an Inner Sphere design, but it originated out of House Steiner.
Blackraven2
7 years, 5 months ago
Just seeing it, I'd assume it has a similar combat role as the raven. Sneaky scout missions. Maybe a bit more reliant on projectile weapons, louder and more archaic, but also less energy signature. Would be fun to try it in a 1 vs 1 duel against a raven.

I never liked the heavies and super heavies. You're a sitting duck, just tanking all the fire. And your most vulnerable spots are as large as an entire small mech, so you can rain a full broad side unto just the center torso or cockpit. While on a smaller mech, just from the weapons limited accuracy and blast range, it would spread the damage over multiple areas. With a small and agile mech, you could sometimes dance through the rain of impacting artillery and laser fire, jump from cover to cover and run circles around the larger mechs dinosaur feet.
ProjectShadowcat
7 years, 5 months ago
Bushwacker is 55 tons, moves 81kph, the BSW-X1 with 2x LRM 5 (1 ton ammo), AC/10 (1 ton ammo), 2x Machine gun (1/2 ton ammo) and an ER Large Laser. Has strong armor and just enough heat sinks to alpha strike comfortably.
Blackraven2
7 years, 5 months ago
Larger than I thought, that's almost a medium sized mech. The raven would be 20 tons lighter, but also around 10 km/h faster and considering the leg layout definitely more agile.

With that armanent it would become crucial if the wacker's first salvo hits true or not. If it does,  it'd turn the lighter raven into shrapnel, maybe before its pilot realizes what's happening.

But if not, how quick is the Bushwacker to make a 360 torso turn in order to lead a fast moving evasive target?
ProjectShadowcat
7 years, 5 months ago
The Raven has 360deg Torso Twist in only MechWarrior 4, and is not all that much faster or more agile than the Bushwacker. You also have to keep in mind, the Raven in its stock configuration (let's assume the RVN-3L) is an electronics warfare machine, never designed for fighting by itself, but to support the rest of its lance or company. If it was to fight the Bushwacker even within its own effective range (the RVN-3L has only a pair of Medium Lasers, an SRM 6, and a Narc), the much heavier 'Mech would still be able to pound it to pieces even without its LRMs. The BAP and ECM doesn't do a lot to help the Raven in a one-on-one fight.
Blackraven2
7 years, 5 months ago
I played the raven mostly in MechWarrior 2 with the Jade Falcons. Granted that's ages ago ;) I rarely ever used the default configuration, as in that early game you can't really do the missions in a support role, so I reconfigured the configuration for more optimized maneuverability, usually with a set of jump jets to increase it even more. Indeed I think it doesn't have 360 torso movement, but its torso moves pretty fast and far, and its narrow leg configuration allow it to turn around as a whole almost quicker than some heavies can turn their torso.

I again played mechs in that class with MechWarrior 4: Mercenaries, and I used the same techniques. Hide & seek, ambushing and quick movements from cover to cover. I really played that mech almost like you would play an Elemental or armored infantry: Avoid getting hit at all and aim at weak spots of larger mechs in surgical attacks. ("No!!! Not the knee actuator again!!!")


I really sucked when playing the super heavies, though.
ProjectShadowcat
7 years, 5 months ago
If you want to customize your Raven, the enemy has a right to customize his Bushwacker. Keep that one in mind.
And in MechWarrior 4, that was exactly what I did. I didn't mess with the engine speed (I felt 81kph was enough) but seriously upgraded its weapons with Clan components, starting with an LB-X AC/20, a pair of Streak SRM 4s and a pair of Heavy Machine Guns. Extra ammo was added to the LBX20 and the StSRM4s.
Most of those weapons, while plenty effective on larger targets (which I went up against frequently), were also very effective on smaller targets.
Blackraven2
7 years, 5 months ago
yeah, I can see how that'd work :-) I'm sure that was a fun machine to pilot! The raven would stand little chance on open ground without cover, you'd turn it into a sieve, unless I'd equip an ER laser and snipe from a distance where the projectile weapons are ineffective. But that'd hardly be considered a fair duel.
So the more fair and interesting fight would end up close range, high speed and making use of terrain.

I wish I still had the game.
Roza
7 years, 5 months ago
reminds me of robocraft
Eviscerator
7 years, 5 months ago
'Everything the light touches..' "What about that shadowy place?" '.....COOOMSTAAAAARR!!!'
talon2point0
7 years, 5 months ago
Did they come out with the Bushwacker for Mechwarrior online? I know they did an announcement...

This brings back a good old memory of MechCommander 2. there was one mission where the field was landminned for heavy mechs, and only light mechs could cross unharmed. (Though if your mine doesn't blow up with a 30 ton war-machine on it, I think you being to picky) I felt pretty cleaver sending my light mechs over the minefield at a light jog while enemy heavies chased them an promptly exploded. I felt less cleaver capturing the downed mech and having it sit in the middle of a minefield till the battle was done.

but it was a profound moment of my childhood and I'm glad you drew something that reminded me of it.
ProjectShadowcat
7 years, 5 months ago
Bushwacker was announced just last month but it won't be out for a few more months.

I actually remember doing something like that in MechCommander 2 myself. My tactics were so specialized that I also used nothing but a bunch of 30- and 35-ton 'Mechs in many missions, especially when units like the Raven, Anubis and the Hollander were so good together.
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