Do I belong...? by SoubiGlowheart < Journal | Inkbunny, the Furry Art Community

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CodyFox

6 years, 9 months ago

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Well I love seeing you!! You are definitely welcome <3 <3 Very cute and friendly!

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ CodyFox

Thanks c': I am happy ppl do accept me ;u; I just always felt so at home in the cub community I never thought something like this would happen :'c I remember when I first joined the fandom everyone was so open and welcoming it made me feel I had a place to call a home c': But sooooo many furs these days that I see... especially on facebook everyday talking about how disgusting other furs are for liking different things..... I closed myself off a bit more because I felt less welcome in the fandom... The cub community was the one place that kept feeling like that home I felt so long ago :'3 Until today.... Today actually made me feel I should shut down.... I shouldnt feel this way though because one person s; It's just.... It hurts to truly feel unwelcome for the first time in the cub community.... I mean, of course there are some cub furs who Ive dealt with a bit of drama from before but... It was nothing like this s;

baseballdude4578

6 years, 9 months ago

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I'm glad you're here with us :3 Please don't let the elitists discourage you~ *hugs*

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ baseballdude4578

your right I shouldnt :'3 Just shaken up is all ;u; *Hugs* Thanks buddy ;u;

baseballdude4578

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ SoubiGlowheart

*holds you in a warm embrace, purring and rubbing his whiskers against you~*

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ baseballdude4578

*Hugs very tight and nuzzles* ;u; <3

DraggiePoss

6 years, 9 months ago

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It's just one person's thoughts. Can't please everyone. And as far as I'm aware you're SUPER popular with the cub community. I'd say you're pretty welcome here to the majority of people.

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ DraggiePoss

Well, I wouldnt say SUPER popular but thats okay because I am happy for those who are here and love my art and me for who I am ;u;

DraggiePoss

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ SoubiGlowheart

That's all anyone could ask for. And it seems like you're comfortably popular in your own way. Doesn't need to be super popular i guess. But you have a lot more people caring about you than most out there. You're very well off in this community and just in general with friends and such.

PrinceLeon

6 years, 9 months ago

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well i like ya buddy *huggles*

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ PrinceLeon

*Hugs* Im glad ;u; <3 Helps to hear anyone who says that ;u; <3 Makes me feel welcome c':

PrinceLeon

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ SoubiGlowheart

*snuggles and kisses your cheek* you're a mega cutie buddy

PrinceLeon

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ SoubiGlowheart

I'm glad i can help buddy

BlitzWinters

6 years, 9 months ago

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-hugs- As far as I've experienced, anyone is welcome in the cub community, even people like myself, whose fursonas are not cubs (although I have gotten some cubified art). Don't let one bad apple ruin the bunch, sweetheart.

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ BlitzWinters

Yeah you're right :'3 That's how I was thinking it was and should be! You are right though! I shouldnt let one person get to me :'3

theuncalledfor

6 years, 9 months ago

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Well, if you're gonna ask your watchers, of course they'll tell you you're welcome. XD
I would assume the vast majority of them watch you because they like your art.

I don't really see myself as part of any specific community, so I can't really give a proper answer myself, but honestly, I don't really feel like you should care if a few idiots don't accept just because your fursona is too old.

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ theuncalledfor

You have a point lol But I have no idea how to otherwise ask unless its on FA or FB ^^; Buuuuut I can say for sure furs on FB would definitely not be welcoming ^^;

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ theuncalledfor

At least alot of the ones on my friends list ^^; Heck, I got hate just from posting the clean version of a mlp pic on there ^^; Even though its odd they complain about that and not the art I had censored lol

AphroditeDraco

6 years, 9 months ago

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Your situation sounds like so many situations I've been in in the past throughout various communities.  I've finally come to the conclusion that it's not the community, but rather humanity, that is the source of these types of things.  In other words, the same person will be a jerk to you whether you're in the cub community or a spiritual community or any other kind of community out there.

Basically, it all boils down to the person making the accusation.  If they're insecure about their own position in the community they'll find someone else to attack so that their own position is strengthened in their own mind.  So they make up a standard for what constitutes "cub" in their mind and they demand that everybody else adhere to that standard so they can accuse people of being "not cub enough" in order to make themselves feel superior.

Most of the time when I go through this kind of stuff it's in the Dragon Otherkin community.  My scalesona is also my true self, and being an anthro dragon, that offends some "dragons are only reptiles" types in the Otherkin community and they have let me know that they thought I wasn't serious about my draconity and stuff like that because my scalesona has boobs and "dragons can't have mammaries cuz they're not mammals."  Same basic thing as what you're going through, just in a different community.

In short, you'll find people like that in every community, because it's a human thing rather than a community thing.  Only you can decide whether you're "cub enough" or not.  No one else can do that for you, and the people who try to do it are most likely insecure about their own position in the community.

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ AphroditeDraco

I see what you are saying and you do make some really good points! Seems that a lot of ppl latch onto hate in a way that it is almost like a obsession or like they have to hate along with others to be accepted because it seems the majority of society feels it is easier to connect through hate than s; Soooo many ppl I see join sides hating against another person for who they are.... Honestly I feel like it all boils down to how ppl judge one another for their social norms... I dont remember the word for it but its kinda sad....

MystBunny

6 years, 9 months ago

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First, I see no reason you wouldn't be accepted by both communities apart from those few still clinging to old misconceptions. Second, cub, adult, Inkbunny should be shared by characters and fursonas of all ages. It doesn't belong to any one concept, as much as some people want to believe it does.

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ MystBunny

I agree s; I wish ppl could just love and accept each other s'; I really shouldnt let this one thing get to me s; Honestly I would love to be more a part of the cub community but Ive been afraid in a lot of ways because of how judgmental ppl have beem these days... Of course it has always been like that but the fandom felt so much more accepting back in the day...

MystBunny

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ SoubiGlowheart

If they're judgemental about that, chances are they're going to find something to be judgemental about regardless.

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ MystBunny

Yeah you are probably right :c

QTEV

6 years, 9 months ago

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As long as you're on inkbunny there's a place for you. Cause I'll accept anybody the way they are here! Except trolls, but besides them, I love this community! Anybody who likes furry has a place here an anybody who likes cub is okay in my book! Besides, you're you, who would want you to be anyone else? All the other people are taken so be yourself!

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ QTEV

Thanks that means a lot :'3 Honestly I want to be more active in the community but I have grown kinda scared because of how many ppl I see these days in the fandom judging another instead of loving and accepting each other s; I miss that feeling when I first joined....

catprowler

6 years, 9 months ago

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EXCUSE ME?? What makes you think this is JUST a cub communtiy?

I know of more grey muzzles here that don't see themselves as cubs that are quite active.

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ catprowler

........Well..... I'm here..... So I didnt think this was just the cub community.... I was just referring to the cub community because they have been the most accepting compared to ppl who are not involved with the community...... I wasn't trying to upset you...... I guess I just dont know how to word things...... Idk....... Idk how to deal with things anymore..... I feel discouraged so easily these days Im just so burnt out..... anyway..... Sorry......

catprowler

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ SoubiGlowheart

Don't apologize....    Just kinda irked at times cause so many assume that IB is basically a cub site and ONLY a cub site.  CUB CENTRAL.... That was a cub site and I know of a few others.  But honestly I don't think it matters if it's a cub site and your not a cub, I think what matters is more how you fell about it.   I've had my sona drawn as a cub because of this site twice but I don't associate myself as being a cub.  That doesn't stop me from haveing several good friends here and yes they ALL seemed to be older, even older than me which comes as a surprise to me since nearly all the time the people I'm talking to are half my age.

I think a lot of us struggle in a sense to fit in, everyone isn't just the perfect fur to be exactly where they are and think that maybe they could fit better or something like that..er.  ya.  Sorry it's late I'm wandering a little.  *sigh*   Don't apologize but don't think you MUST fit exactly like everyone else.  I think what I was just trying to get to was that I feel out of place quite a lot  especially when someone does something sexual based towards me.  It's not like I tell them to stop but at the same time I have to let them know I'm not like them.   Struggle I think is more the norm for many people.  I think finding a few solid friends is more than enough to work out some struggling.

*shakes head*   I'm tired, work sucks, and I just need some sleep.   I'll hit reply instead of erasing this just because... screw it.

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ catprowler

Well... I didnt exactly mean this website either.... s; I mean, I always felt I could be both s; Like it a literal sense of part of the cub community as a cub but also a part of the adult fur community as an adult s; But heck some things I avoid drawing because Im too nervous or cautious about because Im worried it will get out of inkbunny and to FB or e621 and then someone I know will end up disliking me or starting some kind of drama that might get me put on furries beware or the dramatica site or whatever its called saying something like "Possible Pedophile and inconsistent artist" Which just isnt true.... Which Ive been blackmailed before so I feel paranoid.... I have had been in a situation before where someone who was 13 came on to me and what did I do? have bad anxiety and talk to his mother to make sure he doesnt come in my area because I dont want him to get me in trouble.... I didnt want him to try something and me be blamed for it so I had to talk to his mom directly... Even liking cub stuff its different with art... Youth in rl dont fully grasp what they are getting themselves into... And with the art thing I used to do free art for ppl and commissions which I have ALWAYS done commissions for others and made it a priority but with free art I was very inconsistent because I was always so busy and the free art made me overwhelmed and I dropped them all and someone ended up blackmailing me for art... And long story short I ended up giving up doing both commissions and free art because I realized it honestly isnt even fair for some ppl to get free art and others to not get free art because I was a push over when ppl asked for it for free.... I still think about doing commissions again but because of a lot of things I feel YCH would be better for me to do ^^; But if I did both I feel it would be odd unless I raised Commission prices so YCH could be more for not only extra exposure but also because it would be cheaper ^^; Or maybe Im overthinking things ^^; anyway I went off topic ^^; But yeah.... I probably just shouldnt worry how ppl see me ^^; I think Im just too paranoid s;

catprowler

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ SoubiGlowheart

I don't think your paranoid.  Probably a little over cautious, and I'm guessing for good reason.

The only thing I can tell you about FREE is try to NOT make it free.   Trade art, even if it's horrible art.  Require a laugh, (I.E. tell them they must give you a little funny story.)  Or how about a poem, short story.   Tell them that you will try to put in as much effort as you feel thy put in for their free piece.   Also making art is a learning experience... seriously you learn so much that has  NOTHING to do with art.  And it seems you have learned but you're likely to still come against things you haven't come across before.  My best suggestion is to find some artist either here on IB or on FA that you like.   Leave them a message simply asking if they have a few spare moments to write lines for suggestions for when you need that NON ART learning.  Tell them you're not going to bug them, and don't.  Let them know if they could just respond when you need some help and stressed.    This might work, it might not, but if you find someone willing stick close to them.

Life is not always easy, as for the pedofile.....  *sigh*  I write and I fursuit.  Last Friday while out in CatProwler (my full suit)  I had someone walking by and suddenly stop.   "Hey 50 bucks says your a pedophile."  I was honestly shocked.  Then he's waling away going  "Pedophile right here...  50 bucks says he's a Pedophile."    Honestly I wanted to jump after him and demand that money.

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ catprowler

Well, Im not doing free art for ppl anymore really ^^; I seriously dont have the will to draw like I used to ^^; Heck, I barely do art for my bf and only draw for him when I find it fun enough ^^; Otherwise anxiety will eat at me... For some time I had to take anxiety pills just to sometimes draw. I think I will probably just be strict and stick to payment and at least only start with YCH if I ever do start that kind of thing again ^^; Honestly there was one art piece I did for a friend that they asked for and the reaction to it was just "X3" not even a thank you.... The main reason I did free art for ppl was my love of giving to others but I'm just tired of to some "Friends" thinking of me as a machine.... I just dont have it in me.... It's kinda crappy though.... I am too scared still to even start up YCH because I'm scared of having the heavy anxiety... Despite YCH is the easiest to do.... Gives the artist a bit of creative freedom....

Kasper

6 years, 9 months ago

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I think you belong just fine, Soubi. But if I may, this isn't just a "cub" community. You can be a cub, an adult, somewhere inbetween, it doesn't matter. You belong because you're absolutely lovely and wonderful to talk to. <3

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Kasper

Guess I worded that wrong.... I just meant all the ppl involved in the cub community in some way or something.... Idk anymore.... Im trying to do things right... Its just so hard to not feel so hurt.... not even just for myself but it just hurts so much to see how soooo many others fighting among their own and putting others down.... I just dont know how much more I can take when I feel so much hate from others are dominating everything else! I came to the furry community because of the love and acceptance everyone had for another! And now everyday I see hate.... furs hating other furs, normal ppl hating other normal ppl.... just sooooooooooo much of society fueled by hate! Its hard to keep feeling that positivity and love I had in my heart for everything when so much feels so destructive....

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Kasper

But I am really happy you feel I belong :'3 <3

Kasper

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ SoubiGlowheart

I do indeed think you belong. I'm sad every time you disappear! But glad you're here now. <3

Alaskafox

6 years, 9 months ago

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You belong wherever you feel like you belong as long as you know it in your heart

What I have to ask is; do YOU feel like you are meant to be here?

Be really honest with yourself because it doesn't matter what anyone says about you or what you should do to "fit in" better but if you're constantly thinking about how to fit in you will never find where you belong because you aren't being your true self; you're being who you think other people think you should be.

Just some food for thought :)
Don't be so hard on yourself!

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Alaskafox

Thanks for that :'3 you are right! I really should be more open with myself and not let others make me how they want me c:

Blackymoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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Surround yourself with people who like and love you for who you are, don't pay attention to those who don't like or hate you for whatever reason, drop them like a foul Apple and be happy in a community/fandom that should be about having fun, not about having to endure stress or people that don't like you, that would be time wasted for nothing hun. Be happy! *cuddles close* <3

SoubiGlowheart

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ Blackymoon

Yeah very true! ^w^ Thanks for that <3

Blackymoon

6 years, 9 months ago

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@ SoubiGlowheart

No problem hun, you're most welcome *snugs* :3

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