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Burning and shitting on the American flag for Veterans day.

Yup, great way to support Democracy, and the veterans that have fought and died so these nutjob Leftists and Marxists, waving every flag but the American flag, can riot and murder and throw temper tantrums because they didn't get a trophy for losing... Blaming everyone and everything but themselves!

Protesting PEACEFULLY is something I support wholeheartedly, no matter what side the protestors are on, no matter what their beliefs are, but burning and shitting on the very symbol of the country that gives you that right is absolutely disgusting!

I can't be middle ground on this horrid behavior!

If you are disrespecting veterans and the very freedom and democratic republic that you live in that they fought and died for, YOU ARE WORSE THAN ANYTHING YOU ARE AGAINST!

The eyes of the world are on you right now! A riot, shitting on a flag, beating people up, IS NOT A PROTEST!

If you are in America, but anti-American at the same time, then FUCK YOU!

You are disrespecting countless generations of countless men and women of all colors and creeds and sexual orientations that FOUGHT AND DIED FOR YOU TO LIVE A CUSHY LIFE with your cellphones and twatters and farcebooks and schooling and equal opportunity to become something great, or become something absolute shit like the people that crap on the American flag on Veterans Day.

Again, FUCK YOU!

For the Veterans out there, I want to say I appreciate and LOVE you guys and gals for putting your lives on the line to protect this country and the smart people and even the idiots that occupy it.

I am PROUD to be an American and I am PROUD of the veterans!

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LluLwites

7 years, 5 months ago

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Damn.. Things are really going down hill, aren't they?

moyomongoose

7 years, 5 months ago

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Half the reason it still goes on is because no one can even talk about them without being called a "bigot", or a "racist", or even having them pull the name "terrorist" out of their bag of dirty names to throw at us...much less anyone actually doing anything about it.

During Angola's election of September 1992, the political party, UNITA (formally a rebel guerilla militia), lost the election to MPLA who were presently in power. Shortly after that election, there were accusations of election fraud and accusations of MPLA failing to abide by promises they have made. Before long, UNITA went back to being a rebel militia, and re-declared it's ongoing civil war against the government of Angola.
Sound familiar with what has been going on since November 8th???

Maybe they should have lived in Angola during those civil war years from 1975 to 2002...Some of them would have experienced the joy of being a child soldier. Maybe they can march through the streets of Luanda and shit on and burn THAT flag and see how far they get with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwDAWytUrX8
After they find out how well THAT didn't work out, what's left to them could flee south to the Cunene Province (most poverty stricken province in the country) and start smashing and burning what few old ragged automobiles anyone has to get around in...I don't think THAT would go over very well either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYHPJ9d9oUk
But maybe they should just pull that crap in a place like Angola and see how well THAT works out for them...In most parts of that country, I doubt they'd get out alive...However, after the Colonial War against Portugal of the 1960s, and the civil war of the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, I don't think Angola would even want them in the country.

I wrote a story, staring a Meerkat Family living in Cunene Province, Angola which I posted in 2013, then re-posted it in a longer version in 2015.
While it may not be 100% accurate, I believe it is a fair representation of the way of life there during that day and time;

Delquea

7 years, 5 months ago

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My father is a French-American Veteran. And he openly admitted he'd burn a flag if he's given $1,000,000.00 on the spot. (interestingly all of his Veteran friends weren't bothered since they fought for the people and the country rather than fabric (Sorry but saying it as it is)

Interestingly its not illegal either. mainly cos city/state/national flags are more so signatures than an actual symbol. I'm only saying this cos I had a conversation about this back in 2009. Personally if you burn a Japanese flag *cos I'm from Japan* I wouldn't care.

PS the US aint a Democratic Country but a Representative Republic with Democratic Processes. *Sorry but I get annoyed when people continue to refer to the US as a Democracy*

But no that aint why I'm commenting, that was just nitpicking.

Personally I aint bothered by the protests. what I'm bothered by is the left idiots shitting their pants over this (including assaulting Trump supporters) and the alt right who are already assaulting others since they believe since someone like Trump will be in office they have the freedom to do so. It why I remained silent and neutral on this whole ordeal but I really can't anymore. People are too divided and just cant come to terms, accept reality and come together, instead both sides are fighting and neither side is showing they are the better person.

AxleFurret

7 years, 5 months ago

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@ Delquea

Yes you are nitpicking because I agree with all that save for the last bit.

It used to be illegal to burn or deface the American flag in AMERICA, but the leftists pushed to make it legal.

It still doesn't mean I have to be okay with it.

Yes it would be nice if people came together but that is not how a communistic/marxist takeover works. I have seen more and more "hammer and sickle", "red and white", "red and yellow" communist bullshit on the left than ever before. And the VAST majority of violence and hate is coming from the LEFT. The right or alt-right or whatever buzzwords are popular right now are not the ones killing people and burning down cities right now. For every 1 CONFIRMED right sided assault or vandalism I could list over 100 confirmed assaults and damage related to those on the left, some 200 people were arrested last night for assaulting police officers and rioting in Los Angeles, and not a single one of them was a Trump supporter... Hell even a lot of the so called racism reports and such showing up on social media to scare people are entirely fabricated or hearsay.

Delquea

7 years, 5 months ago

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@ AxleFurret

Never bothered me for some reason. but I just think I'm indifferent to objects than I am to people. That is to say I do find it very tactless and distasteful.

And regardless if the left did more and the right did less, I'm still keeping my eye on both sides and remaining neutral til I see improvement from both sides. I have so many reasons to distrust the left but just as many reasons for distrusting the right.

And the interesting part is both sides have conflicting views on the other *and yes I'm referring to the ones who aren't psychos* and as long as these conflict ideologies cloud people judgement, there will always be a divide and it why I just can't pick sides. Personally I would have voted for Trump, but I don't like Pence period so I voted 3rd party.

AxleFurret

7 years, 5 months ago

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@ Delquea

Trump is a populist nationalist, much like Teddy Roosevelt, and that would be a good thing for America if he can even make do on just a few of his promises.

Hell Russia wants to be friends for the first time in a century, and Mexico and Canada are already wanting to re-negotiate the terrible NAFTA and TPP deals that have been ruining America, and wants to end conflicts and troop deployments that dems and repubs have been pushing for decades (and he isn't even in office yet), and Trump has even said he will take NO SALARY for being president (though I think for legal reasons he has to be paid $1 a year). The only other presidents in American history that took no pay were Herbert Hoover and JFK.

But I agree, I'm watching Pence like a hawk. I'm getting a real Dick Cheneyish evil emperor vibe from that guy... I think it's the haircut.

Though in all honesty I have to say in a Trump vs Hillary election, I'm actually glad Trump won... At least for now as time will tell.

As for improvement... The left is most likely going to continue to devolve towards outright communism or Marxist ideals while the new alt-right is going to move more towards center or "classical liberal" and "constitutional conservative" values likely taking up a lot of disenfranchised and moderate dems and repubs. I'm also seeing the possibility of a right and left "establishment" party. So things should be interesting to say the least.

Delquea

7 years, 5 months ago

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@ AxleFurret

Personally I have no issue with populists (as I was a Bernie Supporter) nor Nationalists so long they arent radical nationalists. We ALL seen what radical nationalism leads to *cough*Nazism*cough*

Between you and me (sorta since anyone can read this comment) I don't trust Russia but that simply cos its leader is a fanboy of Uncle Joe.
On top of that I don't mind a Trump presidency, as long as he dont stick to the retarded notion that the US should be like a classical mafia *IE the protection racket-like nonsense* And no Salary eh? I thought it cos he was already a billionaire LOL

The reason I don't trust Pence period is due to him being a religious conservative. IE the people who wanna make America a Theocracy that only benefit those who believe in the Christian God, ignorant to the fact the US ISN'T a religious country but people like Pence want to establish what pretty much equates to a Christian Sharia's Law. We all witnessed the shit he caused in Indiana, heck he was forced to rewrite the law (He didn't do it on his own will)

Personally I wouldn't mind who won, but I'd be more happier if Trump chosen a different VP but oh well.

Its funny cos I'm a communist (I'm actually a Center-Left Wing). The only interesting bit is that I'm not a modern communist (IE people who pretty much believe in dictatorship which is what communism became in the modern world). Its really difficult to explain since it took me 2 years to explain it to one of my friends.

What I think is that the left specifically the "Regressive" Left may calm the fuck down and learn to accept that they cannot have everything and to simply wait, listen and take action when it comes to helping the country evolve more (though I doubt it). Keep in mind that the Right today are generally classical liberal and constitutional conservative. The Alt-Right are actually very very very radical. This is why Moderate Left-Wings and Right-Wings are even showing concern since Trump won all of their support. They reject conservatism in favor of ideologies such as White Nationalism and White Supremacy, Homophobia and even Antisemitism. Yes people do have reasons to be concern.

Basically I think there gonna be a new political shift in which the Moderates will freely come together, the Democratic Party becoming more moderate and the Republican Party rejecting their former radical views they use to embrace years ago in favor of a center-right alignment. I think the Alt Right and Regressive Left just gonna continue devolving to the point of Nazism and Modern Communism respectively assuming the latter dont get their act together.

AxleFurret

7 years, 5 months ago

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@ Delquea

Nazisim came from socialized nationalism not populist nationalism.

As for making America a theocracy... You are full of so much shit on that one. That is the EXACT reason we have "Separation of church and state", even if they wanted to they can make no law on it. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

I wouldn't go around calling myself a communist if I were you, it'd be like someone saying they are "sort of a fascist", and when you go that far to one side or another it is only a step away from the extremest side if it already isn't on the extremest side. If you are "center of left" you are closer to being a moderate.

Trump doesn't hate homos and has praised Israel, and is one of the few politicians willing to mention how horrible black on black crime is in our country (actual black people have been saying this for decades) while those on the left avoid mentioning that at all costs and continue pushing their "only straight white men are sexist racists" narrative, so if that makes him a Nazi, you might want to look at your definitions again.

I don't know where you are getting your information from but so called "alt-right" (a term the LEFT has used to explain PEPE MEMEs on 4chan and people MEMEifying Trump for the LULZ), though the moderates and libertarians and such that support Trump (mistakenly going along with the alt-right definition as meaning alternate to establishment republican religious conservatism) is closer to center and in the populist moderate area, of the people and for the people kind of stuff, which is actually closer to "traditional republicanism". If there can be a radical "right of center" but not "far right" then sure they can be radical, though that is usually not how the definition works. It is the "Establishment" and "Religious conservatives" that are on the FAR right, there was a guy that used the term "New Alternative Right" back in 2008-2010 I believe that was pretty much just a neo-nazi, so you can see where the confusion is coming from.

Too many new definitions of things popping up lately and getting confused with other shit. ^_^

Delquea

7 years, 5 months ago

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@ AxleFurret

I know that, my point is it came from a from of radical nationalism regardless.

Also I know that too, but people like Pence are really trying to push that agenda. The Religious Restoration Act in Indiana shows that and it why people think he's attempting to defy the constitution even though he really can't and that does concern people.

Blame the paranoid conservatives I encountered in my life. Just by supporting a communistic ideology (IE no social classes and the people have full complete power than they do now) I'm pretty much a communist regardless lol but I got to the point where people are free to think of me however they want cos it don't change the fact I'm still in favor of these things even though they can't work in a large society. Otherwise just give me a good reason and I will agree with the right just as much I will agree with the good idea moderate lefts will think of.

Oh I know how Trump thinks and what he believe and homophobia isn't one of them. Its the lesser majority (IE there are a lot of them but they are still outnumbered by his moderate supporters) of his supporters in general who are homophobic and racist and that what got people going batshit.

Oh I got my information from almost a year of research and the common themes is White Nationalism/Supremacy and Antisemitism. As they reject the mainstream conservative in the US. They do have far right ideologies and to this day I'm still doing extensive research to learn more and make sure I ain't mixing things up with other far-right ideologies cos at this point I ain't too fond of them compared to my fondness for Moderate-Right wings as I'm friends with plenty of them.

And thats English for you. New terms are popping up faster than dandelions.

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