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RaianOnzika

Probably not following the right path...

Hi guys,


It's been now a month that I'm thinking about my skills, and about my trainning...

Why can't I draw the way I want, and why am I not able to draw some pictures when other artists are able to ? Yeah, I'm speaking especially about porn art.

I've noticed for instance, that I'm totally unable to draw good and decent threesomes, I dunno' why, but everytime I try, my perspective view is completely shattered and I draw stupidly the next part without caring if the character has a normal pose or if he's completely off... And that problem appeared again recently...

I've been wondering if I'm really able to draw good porn...

- Personnally, I don't RP cause I don't want to waste my time on chat rooms when I can use this time to draw... a lot :).

- I never found porn pictures arousing except porn movies... When I stare at a porn picture of an anime for instance, I think of the artist who drawn the pic, what kind of tool he used to create this, and what he was thinking at that time, when a friend of mine would already have removed his pants to jerk off... Yeah...Am I that unsensitive ? -_-

- By keeping this statement, I think : That's probably because I don't read, and that I never watch mangas that I'm so bad with my art... I rarely take the occasion to observe my world around me, I don't care of those new animes that everyone speak about and all... And when I try to watch a thing that everyone like ( like MLP for instance ), I always reject it... Same goes for music. I'm not able to listen to a song which were done after 2000.

- Another problem comes when a friend of mine tries to help me improve my art skills. That's nice and always appreciated. But apparently, even by receiving great advises, I never follow them... I don't know why I do that o_o...

When I watch the works of other artists, I see them drawing different kind of pics, playing with their characters easily, and taking the time to draw awesome stuff.
There's a difference here. I must admit that I'm not a real digital lover.

- First, I never draw with my Pentablet, even if I have a great Wacom tablet ( A4 ), I don't use it for that.
I only need it when it's time to set the curvy lines on SAI and to colour some small parts where a mouse couldn't do it easily...

Second, I hate spending time colouring my work and try shadings. If only there were a tool which could make automatic shadows... Ah, that's so true ! I always rush my pictures when it's time to colour and use the light/shade effects...

The Quality is acceptable cause I know different techniques that can « hide » my skills defects like the Black layer behind the picture. It removes every white pixel, which is awesome ! ( when a Real artist would ban this idea immediatly... )

I use SAI to make great curvy lines for inking, making look like VECTORIZED lines when it's not the case... I use this, cause I've never been able to use correctly the pencil tool on Photoshop. Yurgh ><... The Pressure Tool allows me to make my lines smooth and nice.

For colourings, you probably noticed that I closed a lot of areas between lines... Why ? To allow myself to use the MAGIC WAND set to a tolerance of 150.
I've never accepted to take the time colouring my work with the pentablet, when it's 150 % easier to use the magic wand and fill the selections... The black layer will fix the colors troubles :).

As for shadings, there's a lot of tools which are awesome but most of the time, it's the longest part that I always try to reduce the most...

When I watch some artists thanks to Livestream, I often see them using simple tools and they work calmly and relieved... when I'm generally stressed and speedy. The quickest I do the pic, the best it is. And it's not rare to hear my yelling against a pic that I've drawn with... pleasure -_-°°°°...

I know this is ABSOLOUTELY not the right way to follow when you're an artist. But I've always been like that. Even with my art.

So, of course I'm not the worst artist ever by cheating like this but... Well, is that really cheating ? After all, I draw the pics thanks to my own skills and a traditionnal HB pen. I just edit them digitally, the fastest way possible... so... it's probably not cheating...

It's not like if I take a picture drawn by somebody else and trace over his layer to draw my pics... That kind of behaviour is totally unacceptable and I consider it as « Art thief ».


So, what do you think ? Do you really think that I can keep the title of Artist when you know that I hate, in fact, editting my pics ?

I'll keep thinking and tell you more, next time...
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Added: 5 years, 2 months ago
 
BlueBreed
5 years, 2 months ago
Eh, time and practice time and practice time and practice. The key is to draw often enough that you develop your skills a bit better, but don't force yourself to. After all we do all have lives to live and can't spend every waking moment drawing. I have the same problem, I have a hard time drawing what I want to and sometimes an even harder time coloring it the right way. Especially when you draw smut, in order for it to make the right impact you HAVE to make everything fit together correctly - lineart, color, everything.
RaianOnzika
5 years, 2 months ago
I know what you mean. But here I tried to show that the tools I'm using to draw are not supposed to be used that way... I feel like I don't care of my art, and so, don't care of anything é_è...
chacumera
5 years, 2 months ago
Their is no right path, their is just the one you make.  It's just that you have to know what you want, and then you know what to focus on, and what you need to work on will be clearer to you.

It just takes patience.
RaianOnzika
5 years, 2 months ago
Patience seems to be a word that I don't know unfortunately -_-... Even in life I never managed to focus myself correctly... It's probably the main problem... Keep thinking of it. Thanks.
DarkTailskp
5 years, 2 months ago
Well maybe you just don't like +18...but everything takes time and with advise you gotta use them in your own why not try to copy other's.
RaianOnzika
5 years, 2 months ago
I've started drawing porn just because I wanted to draw nude charas. To learn more about anatomy and all... As I said, drawing never really aroused me...
DarkTailskp
5 years, 2 months ago
Well just draw them naked then it's not that unless sex is involved.
Wakka
5 years, 2 months ago
From starting out nine months ago as a beginner artist all iv been hearing is time and practice from every one but for the most part i think that it's up to the artist. my arts far from good and far from you own skills lv but i keep drawing and get great pleasure when i actually learn something new.

Point being is that i hate having to try so hard for so little improvement and yet i just keep drawing any ways. don't give up and im sure you'll get better like me as well.   not sure if this helps any but i read your journal and gave a response as best i could~
RaianOnzika
5 years, 2 months ago
There's never little improvement. There's only evolution :). I know that, with Horlod, we often work together, drawing and speaking about comic and pictures projects. It's awesome to have a real artist friend even if, as I said in this journal, most of the time, I don't follow his advices without knowing why... Looks like even making a single effort is annoying me -_-... I really need to grow up è_é...
df01
5 years, 2 months ago
Firstly: you draw with a MOUSE? Wow, that's awesome!
After that, im going to the point: take it easy, maybe you need some rest. About how you draw, i think your works are awesome, you've your own style and its ok. In the moment you've decided to be an artist, then you're an artist .Of course, if you wanna fix that "issues" you can do a  digital sketchbook where you practice your shading/painting/whatever you want to improve, it would take time, but, you're gonna feel better by learning something new, and, maybe, i dunno if you agree with me, maybe listen some new music -my recomendation are soundtracks-. Again Take it easy
RaianOnzika
5 years, 2 months ago
No, I draw with a traditionnal pen on a real A4 paper x3. Then, I use a scanner and edit the picture on Photoshop and SAI (while listening to MJ's songs <3 ).
I use the pentablet only when it's time to ink and colour small surfaces.

As always, the advices I received, like yours, are excellent. Now, all I need is to grow up a little and accepting to follow them.
df01
5 years, 2 months ago
Well, like i said: take it easy, you're gonna be alright!
HeattheDragon
5 years, 2 months ago
Dude

You are thinking to much

1.) You must NEVER look down at your own Art, if nobody else is, YOU at least must be PROUD on your Art Pieces

2.)If you want to change something because YOU are not Happy with it - just fucking do it

you can sit there and talk all day about that, won't change anything at all
RaianOnzika
5 years, 2 months ago
I'm probably thinking too much, but some question must be answered ! é_è

1) Impossible dude... I've always hated my art, and since a very long time ><... And I don't say it to provocate people, this is how I really feel. I wish I could be better...

2) Words... Again, words are easier to say than follow xD. I know, I'm trying my best but I dunno' why, it never works...

Probably, but I need to expose it. That way it could be easier to locate and exterminate the real problem. ( A trouble always hides another one )
HeattheDragon
5 years, 1 month ago
1.) the thing about that is, when you have a clear piece of paper and you draw something on it - it could always be better in somewhat way because the possibilities are infinite its a common "curse" that every artist don't like their Art since they "could do better"

But that doesn't mean you can't be proud on you, every picture - every minute you spent drawing brigns you a step forward for improvement even you first picture made you help to become who you are now, so look at you pictures and try to smile^^

2.) theory is always easier than Method - I am sure you will get everything right, you are an amazing artist and well..you can do it and stuff I believe in you! ^^
sunder0426
5 years, 2 months ago
u have over 100 watches......i thihnk......your obvouily doing something right no? if your art was crap no one would look at it. but i'm sure a lot of people look at your art so that means your art is aesome! ^^
RaianOnzika
5 years, 2 months ago
Oh no dude, you shouldn't care about your statistics. It's a trap I already fell on and there's no need to be proud according to them...

Well, you like my art, fine by me, but I wish it could be better, once again...
FierceWendigo
5 years, 2 months ago
i've only been drawing Erotica for about a year and a half now if you had seen some of my older stuff you would probably think its very amateur, i started drawing for almost the same reason you did... to draw nude characters, and expand my learning curve as well as my audience, i've noticed recently that my artwork has improved but, i still feel that it lacks dimension and i need to work more to really capture dynamics, + i find its better for me to draw traditionally than on a tablet first.

so my point of all of this is don't give up, even if you think what you've drawn is crap, if it doesn't appear to be drawn by a five year old, someone is bound to like it. if you don't feel right drawing three to four characters in one pic then don't, unless you really want to, and just keep going eventually you will figure out a method that really sticks with you, its all about how you play the game not how you win!
MrFox2020
5 years, 2 months ago
Sir, I only recently came across your art and I don't consider myself a fan because it is 18+ material, but because it is really good art. I see not pen strikes made with anger but with devotion, talent, and dedication. Just sit back on your chair and take a deep breath, you sir have legitimate skill that many wish they possessed (myself included ^3^).
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